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Special. I know. Isn't that just precious! She is 8 years younger than the next child--and clearly my baby despite being 23.
I do have 3 others though--all born essentially within 3 years. Sarah is 7.5 hours one way. Anne and Ace (and new baby Cora) are 7.5 hours another way--to Dallas. Malia is 5 hours another way--to San Angelo. Matt is 14 hours another way to Larado--but no one is allowed there due to crime and what he does for a living.
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Pbrain - I had something similar - my brother was dx with bowel cancer a month after my dx and my father died a week after my mx. I didn't do much grieving at the time either - too much going on.
My brother is fine now, and we got sooo close during that time.
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susan - my oldest (just turned 26) has been many hours away in Virginia since 2007, but I have seen him more in the last couple of years since I enrolled in the Her2+ vaccine trial in Washington, D.C. My youngest was at home, graduated from USF in May 2013, did an unpaid internship locally until Christmas, and then left in January of this year to do a paid internship in the Florida Keys. She is the baby (about to turn 25 - yikes!) and I miss her terribly - she just sent me a text the other day - she misses me, her dad, her dog, her friend Mike, her bed, and Tampa. So funny! On a side note - staying away from Laredo sounds like a good plan - hopefully Matt comes to you!
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princessrn, did you follow a specific protocol on the 10-day smoothie plan? I would be thrilled to lose 12 pounds but I'm not sure if I could hang in there for 10 days. I do make a smoothie every morning for breakfast but I haven't ever made a true green smoothie.
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re: grieving - my dad died of a pretty rare form of biliary cancer in August 2007 (diagnosed in June 2007) and by the first part of October of the same year my husband was having health problems and landed in the hospital on Halloween. He was diagnosed with a pretty rare autoimmune disease (dermatomyositis - CPK at 69,000 at its highest). He spent a month in the hospital, almost unheard of these days.
I felt like (and still feel like) I never had time to really grieve/assimilate my father's death because this other illness was so unexpected and serious. On the other hand, so was my dad's...
After my husband finally got home (he had to relearn how to walk again) I had this almost manic period of trying to get in control of everything, i.e. emptying out two storage units we had on my own and anything else I could crawl on top of to try to declare victory. I started feeling so irritable about everything. Very hard to describe but I've felt similar feelings since going through BC and my mom being diagnosed with Alzheimer's during the same time window. I still have feelings/thoughts such as "wait a minute, did that really just happen to me/us?" (meaning, the C word and her Alzheimer's diagnosis). Maybe our brains go into autopilot when necessary (during the heat of the moment/diagnosis/treatment).
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I vote for susan writing a book or a blog!
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Also, regarding weight loss - one of the few "diets" that's ever worked for me is The 17-Day Diet. I lost about 25 pounds and really changed my way of eating, although I've not been as true to cleaner eating since going through chemo. Dr. Attai (my 2nd opinion breast surgeon) said the weight loss probably saved my life because I lost so much volume in my breasts and that's how I saw the tumor.
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LeeA - I know we have previously compared notes on the bile duct cancer and dermatomyositis in both of our families - what are the odds? Let me say again, I am so sorry for what you have been through. I can so relate to that surreal feeling - is this really happening, all of this, right now?
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SpecialK, I remembered the bile duct cancer (cholangiocarcinoma) and your brother but I can't recall who had the dermatomyositis in your family. Am I correct in remembering you were adopted? Was your brother adopted as well? As I sit here and wrack my brain I'm thinking your mom had the dermatomyositis.
During my last MO appointment I mentioned the cholangiocarcinoma and he asked a few questions about ethnic background. I'm not sure if that's why he ran some of those more obscure tests. My father's health issues over the years sure do sound reminiscent of hemochromatosis.
I guess when it rains it pours or - upon us all a little rain must fall (thank you, Led Zeppelin :-)
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my oldest brother William also died of bile duct cancer, nine years ago this very month.
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LeeA - brother dx'ed with bile duct cancer, had 60 days. Mom had dermatomyositis, for 25 years, dx'ed at the age I am now. Dad dx'ed with stage IV lung CA at the age of 82 after 7 years as a non-smoker, did two separate multi-infusion cycles of Taxol six months apart - knowing that he tried so hard at that age humbles me, he had 12 months. You mentioned your DH being hospitalized for a month - when my mom was first dx'ed in the late 70's she was in the hospital for 6 months! You are right, that would not happen now, but she was frequently hospitalized for 6-8 weeks at a time, usually several times a year, for the last 10 years of her life. Both my brother and I were adopted - my onc was relieved about that when we discussed all the family cancer! The interesting thing is that we were downwinders (Santa Susana Field 1959) - I don't think it is a coincidence that my brother and I were dx'ed with different cancers at basically the same age, he was four years older than me. On our suburban cul-de-sac of 10 houses, there is breast, bile duct, liver, lung, stomach, melanoma (in a teenager), and blood cancer in the houses of the original residents who moved in a couple of months after that accident. And those are the ones I know about - a number of folks moved away - in two houses - ours and one other, there were multiple types.
kathec - sorry about your brother - bile duct cancer is a cruel one.
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Oh wow. Santa Susana. Someone on a completely different message board mentioned that to me several years ago. I had never heard of it until then.
Were you in this house when your mom was diagnosed with dermatomyositis? After being diagnosed my husband ordered and read a book by a woman who has done quite a bit of research into autoimmune diseases and environmental triggers. After both of us went through serious illnesses living in a house situated very close to a freeway I started wondering how much there might be to it (environmental triggers).
Amazing regarding your mom's six to eight month hospital stays. If it started in the seventies and you were living in that house near that accident site it seems possible there's a connection with diagnosis as well.
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kathec, I, too, am sorry about your brother. It's a rare tumor yet three of us on this thread have a family member who has had it.
My father lived to be 80 years old. He had diabetes so I don't know if there was a connection or not. By the time they found the tumor it was almost softball sized, which seems amazingly large but I'm almost certain that's the word my mom used after meeting with the doctor (he didn't go to the doctor for the diagnosis).
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it was, and it is supposed to be a rare one, that is why i was so suprised to hear of yours and leeA's family also being touched by that one. he was barely 50 when diagnosed. At first they thought he had ulcers. It pretty much devasted my mother, he was her first-born, and i still believe he was the best of the bunch! 5 0f us altogether. thanks
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LeeA, you were posting while i was still pecking!
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In 1959 a partial meltdown occurred at the Boeing-Rocketdyne nuclear testing facility, about 30 miles northwest of downtown Los Angeles. The incident released the third greatest amount of radioactive iodine in nuclear history.
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Posting while pecking! :-)
kathec, have there been any other incidences of cancer with your siblings?
I googled hemochromatosis and cholangiocarcinoma the other day and got so many hits I just closed the tab. I tried it again just now to confirm how many: 7.8 million.
I have a feeling my doctor is looking at hemochromatosis based on the blood tests he ordered but I don't know for certain. Hemochromatosis is hereditary and can cause all kinds of problems (too much iron in the organs).
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leeA,there isn't, not yet any way or ever, i hope. i still cant get my sister to do a mammogram, she is one year younger than me, i will be 55 in september. And what is really weird is that months before i was diagnosed, i began to wonder why the palms of my hands were so red. Should i bring this to my onc's attention, and remind him of my bro's cancer? because, maybe it was this thread that mentioned hemochromatosis, i had never heard of it before. not that i want to go looking for trouble.
lago, do i owe you an apology?
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kathec, it looks like our lumps showed up around the same time. I first saw/felt mine in April 2012 (still living in the Los Angeles area) and I see you were diagnosed in June 2012. I wasn't officially diagnosed until October because I procrastinated (yes, very stupid on my part).
I've said this before on this thread but the week that the Fukushima plume was supposed to hit the Los Angeles area I was out and about in the rain. The plume was predicted to arrive on a Friday but this light rain fell two days before, on a Wednesday. All this was in March of 2011. I got caught out in the rain without an umbrella and within a few days I developed a very strange sore throat and what felt like swollen glands (reminded me of having swollen glands as a kid). A few months later I read an article about the plume arriving two days early (Wednesday - the same day I was out in the rain). Probably just a coincidence but I can't help but wonder what other toxic crap was in the air that day (other than the usual crap, that is).
On the other hand, I've not read about any increases in breast cancer incidences in the Fukushima province so who knows.
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kathec, rereading your post - regarding your palms - is that a sign of hemochromatosis?
Editing to add - I just did a quick search and see that it is.
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Hemochromatosis is actually more common than you think - I was surprised by its prevalence.
LeeA - I was in college when my mom was diagnosed but it took a while for them to figure out what she was sick with. She had progressive weakness, but it was not until she had a crisis - slid down onto the floor and could not get back up - that she was hospitalized and they did the proper labs. It still took three weeks until they figured it completely out.
The deal with Santa Susana is that it was not publicized - we had no idea until much later. My brother and I were both 54 at diagnosis, my dad was 82. I think that goes to having exposure as very young children while he was already an adult. We were diagnosed within a ten year span, but both my dad and brother were diagnosed and died with a seven year span.
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Fluff - sorry to hear about the problems you are having with Tamox. I had problems, too - developed prolonged bleeding (5 weeks!) and eventually had a d&c. They found multiple huge endometrial polyps - thank God all benign. My oncologist said it was clearly due to the Tamoxifen and took me off of it - risk of them recurring and turning into endometrial cancer was too high for the possible benefit. I do not want to take an AI either due to the risk of osteoporosis and further sexual dysfuction/dryness - so for now I am rolling the dice - hoping that since my IDC was so tiny (3 mm) and I had a BMX that chemo/Herceptin, radiation (for close margins) and 1.5 years of Tamoxifen was enough to keep me in the clear for the rest of my life. Only time will tell. I will have to live with the consequences if it comes back. Not an easy decision, of course. Right now for me I am choosing quality of life over the long term vs risk of a shortened life if it should recur as mets.
Anyways, wanted to share with you that one option to consider is a hysterectomy followed by going back on Tamoxifen. Take the uterus out and you no longer have the endometrial cancer risk. Something you could consider. Again, not something I was willing to do given the size of my IDC, but if it were larger, I would be considering all of these treatment options more strongly. (I feel I might have overtreated myself with chemo/Herceptin so now I am swinging back the other way on treatment, lol.)
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Wow! This is NOT the thread to have "fall off " your favorites. I see I was not the only one to have that happen.
By the time I finished catching up....6 pages....I feel as if I have just run a marathon. I have absolutely no idea how to address everyone, because it was too much to process at one time.

Former CT girl here. Lived all over the state until I moved to AZ 4 years ago. Funny how that is the part I remember from all the posts.
Cycling...my BS asked about that and why tamoxifen. My MO still feels it is the med for me to take. The 2 petscans and 2 vaginal US, show the ovaries are still cycling even with chemo and hot flashes. The changes in pictures from one scan to another show cyst growth and then no cysts...regularly. I had a hyst in '99 at age 35 and kept the ovaries. Who knew? Oh to be the great seer of future events...LOL. I have discussed the Tamoxifen not being as effective with ILC info I have seen on this site. Just one article <---link My MO feels there is not enough documentation to switch me at this point. Yet this was written in 2008, I believe, should be more info since then. I know I have seen more. May need to print out and then discuss with MO.
Pbrain - I was a "late bloomer" too in the grieving process. It came on hard so many months into treatment I felt weird about it. Almost as if it shouldn't be happening and I was "allowing" it in. Wasn't sure if I was going to be able to pull out of the "funk" as it was pretty deep and dark where I landed. I am slowly surfacing and realizing it was just a delayed, perfectly "normal" <---used very lightly, reaction. It just hit me later than many others. Hope you are feeling a little brighter.
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Trish-Ann, Pbrain and Rozem - I started a new job 10 days before the first chemo. High power, travel and general craziness juggling 40 balls at once. This has been my business life for so many years but since chemo started at the end of January I have had my confidence rocked big time. Chemo brain, lack of energy, sometimes I just wanted to crawl back into bed. Couple things - my boss is a BC survivor (I did not know that when I took the job), She cuts me more slack than I would ever give myself. She provides me perspective..."in 6 months think about where you will be and how far you have come". The staff has been amazingly supportive. Coming to work lets me get away from BC for a few hours everyday, ok 8-10 hours per day. I know I still have more treatments (Herceptin, Rads and Femara) to go, but one step at a time. You gotta do what you love and I love what I do, even if I have chemo brain.
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Pbrain I had my crash time too. The further out you get the better it gets but it takes time.
Robin it's so hard to answer everyone on this thread even if you do keep up. Sometimes a <<<wave>>> is all you can do
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I am really concerned I have been extremely tired no energy at all and my body hurts all the time. I am even falling asleep in the afternoon it started about a month or so ago. I don't see my doctor until Sept. When I get up from a chair or bed I am very stiff like when I was in treatment. Are these signs to look out for?0 -
momx I took Tamoifen after radiation...They gave me all treatments first then Tamoifen!! I begged for mine sooner but he wouldnt give me it!! Yea well
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Ang I am too but I think its from the Arimedex...I have no energy, I get sooo tired I fall asleep about 11am I do get stiffness& joint pain
I did not have this with Tamoifen
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My MO did the DNA testing on me for hemochromatosis. My ferritin was pretty high. That is the stored form of iron...I had a ton of ferritin and no red blood cells, but I think that was because I was low on folate. Anyway, my test came out positive for hemochromatosis in one gene and negative in the other. That makes me a heterozygote, so I have to watch iron supplementation (I take Men's multivitamins because they usually don't contain iron).
My Dad had hemochromatosis, so I knew I would have one faulty gene, but luckily my Mom gave me a good one.
Interesting about the radioactive iodine, but also odd. Iodine is only taken up by the thyroid (that is why they can do the thyroid ablation with I-125, no other tissue absorbs it). Were there lots of hypothyroid people on your cul de sac, Special? It wouldn't suprise me...
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ang7894 stiffness after you haven't been moving for a while sounds like hormone therapy treatment. You should report this but I found after a year on Anastrozole it got better… not totally gone but better. Some women get tired on these drugs too.
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ang. Tired here too. I think its meno amd hormone therapy. Im tired all the time. And in pain, stiff and achey. I just had a bone scan that was all clear so i guess its normal ( for me anyway)
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