Can we have a forum for "older" people with bc?
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Deep sigh of relief we heard from Carole. I think we all take things in stride, but the last we heard from you Carole you sounded like you were still having a fair amt. of dizziness. At least that was what I thought I read. We don't want to be intrusive, and sure want you to enjoy your cooler environment out of the La summer heat....but I had visions from last summer I guess --- even though that was your better half then, but not hearing a word --- well. So just good for him, good for you and good for us...we can all let out the collected breath we were holding. You are very cared about and missed when you play hooky.
I think too it must be hard to know you hit and killed someone and once today ( very early morning news, I heard that Tony was going to race today and I couldn't believe it. Then, later I heard that no he wasn't. Sure glad. None of our news casts showed the "accident" so I don't know what to think about it, but as I'm thinking that it is a rare event ( if it has ever happened before, then I too wonder if it was on purpose.
I think if you are to the point of doing things like that, maybe you shouldn't be in racing anymore. It is a family sport and I hate to think of what kids end up seeing.
Well Anne, I'm glad to hear that you have tried the stores that have professional fitters for bras. I was thinking not so much professional in the sense of mastectomy, but just a "fitter" period. Probably doesn't make any difference any way. I'm surprised that no one could come up with more than a "that's too bad" though I do understand if the MO's are men etc. they may feel at something of a loss. I have the sensation that they are more concerned with the primary treatments ( whatever they are for each person ) rather than undergarments a few months after the fact. Still, I think its a bit odd that they have "nothing" at all in the way of a suggestion or idea.
I hope when you get back to Ga you will have less stress and some time to do a bit more research and see if you can find a solution that is good for what ever state your in....hot, cool, or otherwise.
Just took a break here. Was using my steam mop in the kitchen. It's a fair sized room and though it is a much easier way to mop all together, after a while I'm panting and sweating. We keep it about 78 or 80 in the house and its a bit warm for lots of exertion.
Hope you are all having a great Sunday.
Blessings
Jackie
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Yes, I know Jackie..... There was a video posted of the "accident.." I think there will be a lot more information coming out about it, and the investigation by the District Attorney. "Smoke" always was a hot-head..... and has gotten into trouble before....
The other guy, only 20 shouldn't have lost his temper either, and ran onto the track, trying to wave Tony down.... It cost him his life....
I would hate to be on a jury deciding THAT one.... the video speaks for itself.... They are asking for more video's from the fans.....
We went to a fresh-farm produce place, and bought some Sweet Banana Peppers, and fried them..... also bought those roasted green chile's, cleaned and peeled them, and fresh beets.... boiled them up, and I just like them plain..... DH puts Balsamic and oil on them....
Also some Palisade Peaches, and fresh big tomatoes.... from Colorado.... Mine are doing alright, but these were big and looked good!
Little cucumbers, used for pickling, but we just peel and salt them.
So that's my dinner Ha!
Jackie, I like my house, the cooler the better! With the swamp cooler on, because of the dry heat here.... I even sleep with a fan or 2 on....
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Hi Ladies,
Welcome to all the newcomers. This is a great bunch of ladies on this thread.
I have not been on for a while. I have been trying to catch up on all the pages but not able to stay up late enough to read them all in one or two nights. I have been going to PT for my hip and knees after work and by the time we eat dinner and clean up the kitchen it is late and I fall to sleep reading the posts.
Chevy, Happy belated birthday. Hope you had a great day.
Blondie, my prayers are with you and that you are doing better.
Anne, sorry to hear of your dilemma with your SIL. Hope it gets settled soon so you can go back to GA
Cammi, glad you are doing ok
Carol, hope you are right and only a sinus problem. This weather is bad for sinus and allergies this summer
Puffin, hang in there you are almost done.
Sally, I agree it is great to have this ladies in our life including you. You are special
I went to the Feel Good Look Good session in our area. It was fun and I finally learned how to put eye liner on after all these years
Hope everyone has a great week
Emmy
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thanks everyone, so sorry about the bras and the not sleeping I get it....0 -
Morning Ladies! I'm back in SC for the duration of the summer and fall. The weather has been great here...rather cool for this time of year, but anyplace would be cool compared to the humidity of Florida in August. I decided to reinvest my sale proceeds in a home here in Greenville, so much more house for the money than other parts of the country. We settled on a farmhouse style on a beautiful lot in a family oriented area. It's not a 55 plus community....I wanted to live near young families with kids in hopes that when I pass one of my kids or grandkids will want the house to live in and raise their family, but in the meantime, it will be a nice place for my two young grandkids to visit and have friends when they do. The best part of the home is a beautiful screened porch that looks out to the woods where all kinds of birds and nature abound. I can't wait to watch the leaves change in the fall! BF's lease runs here until February, so we'll take our time redecorating and moving. It will be a fun project for both of us. We're also about a half hour closer to the beach house which is good.
This thread moved fast while I was away....so many pages flew by. I will try to catch up in the next few days, but it's going to be a busy week as we're having our annual low country shrimp boil on Saturday and we have friends coming from Tennessee to stay with us. It should be lots of fun!
Have a wonderful Monday!
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Judging others will avail you nothing and injure you spiritually. Only if you can inspire others to judge themselves will anything worthwhile have been accomplished. When you approach others in judgment they will be on the defensive. When you are able to approach them in a kindly, loving manner without judgment they will tend to judge themselves and be transformed.
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Kaara, your new house sounds fantastic. Well, I have to admit since I live in the woods that if a wooded area is anywhere near what you buy I'm going to be excited. I always loved houses with porches and if they are screened in -- all the better. It is great to enjoy the outdoors without some of the tag-along things like snakes, out door spiders and mosquitoes and any of the no-see-um's. Sounds like you made a wonderful choice.
A bit warm and muggy here today. Dh is working so I have some time this morning to get some stuff done. And -- around here there is always something. We sit here because we are too pooped to pop as they say -- not because we don't have anything to do.
Termite/Emmy, we miss you when you have been busy, and I sure hope the PT is helping. It takes a while I know to see a good difference, but hopefully you will be able to strengthen everything around your knees and hips and get enough support going to make a difference for you. It is difficult I think since aging brings aches and pains and just adding some strength exercises I don't think can remove it all --- but we can always hope for seeable, feellable improvement. Here's hoping.
Well, off to feed my cats and go to the bank. I'll catch you all later.
Blessings,
Jackie
p.s. I did Chevy see that video segment of the NASCAR accident and it is a toughie. I mean, I can see how the younger guy -- being driven into the wall would be irritated and mad enough to want to ( shake a fist at Taylor ) do something -- yet and still, how could you -- even if you are psyched up during a race....come even close to hitting someone. I do wonder if Taylor was trying to come close and miss-judged ---- but from the sound of things he has poor judgment in how he handles upsets during races -- likely others do too, but I just keep thinking....he got what he wanted forcing the young guy out....why couldn't he have left it at that.
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Good Morning--my weekend party lasted like 22 hrs. Now the pain sets in LOL
Carole so glad to see u back, I know we all tend to worry aft all think of the name of this site we're on. LOL
Kara u'r house sounds gret for u so u enjoy it as long as u want.
Anne I think we're all in agreement about u be back in GA--it will help so much.
Emmy I love that u go to those sessions. Good for u.
OH Brain freeze right now--about the bras----it is very difficult to fine one that's comfortable--I hardly ever wear one. for that reason so I am of no help.
OK work is calling
BTW Chevy if u dance in the rain don't put u'r head back or u will drown/
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Cammie, I am mentioning this because how could I not --- your last sentence, the BTW one, just absolutely cracked me up. Am enjoying my last cup of coffee right now with White Chocolate Mocha creamer in it. All the other cups I drink are black. So, I'm always in anticipation of the one with cream I allow myself.
It's trying to rain outside but so far -- only a fine mist. Who knows -- but I do think the storms are due to subside for a couple of days then back into some possibility of more. What a summer we have had so far. It is cloudy now and that suits me as the humidity feels better if there is no sun to intensify the effect.
Blessings
Jackie
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Okay now Jackie, you are just egging her on!
She KNOWS I am afraid of the water.... I mean the ocean.... I mean a glass of water..... Because if I float on my back, I would surely drown to death.... sink to the bottom.....I just LOVE cloudy misty days! It is such a "gift" and relief from the sun and the heat!
And no, I won't "dance" in the rain, I will RUN.... Run holding hands with my Daughter..... Maybe more of a little walk than a full-out "run" but we will be IN it, laughing all the way.
Yes, Jackie, I watched the video over and over, trying to figure out WHY Tony seemed to veer over to maybe "bump" him away! Another driver steered the other way to miss him.... I know he should not have been out on that track, mad because Tony wrecked him, but Tony COULD have swerved away from him..... NOT towards him!
Maybe he just meant to bump him off the track, but he KNOWS better.... I'm sure he didn't mean to kill him, just maybe bump him out of the way...... But at that speed, and him knowing why the guy was mad, just fueled him on.
I think that no matter what, the fans will hate him for this..... The sponsors will probably drop him, even if no charges are filed. He is the owner of his own "team"..... but the whole thing just makes me sick.... They don't call him "Smoke" for nothing.
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U know I didn;t see it but just reading about it Chevy I think u'r right at those speeds a bump is not a bump it's critical and they all know that, It almost sounds like vehicular homicide and if not I can't imagine people will be for him any more. How stupid.
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I know..... It just shouldn't have happened.... The crowd was almost hysterical, from seeing this! They were all screaming.... "HE HIT HIM! TONY HIT HIM!" Tony KNOWS he caused him to go into the wall.... He could have slowed way down, going around the track again! I don't know if there were caution flags out or not, but the ER team was right on it, coming the other way! The OTHER drivers didn't hit him! Sure it was dark, but there were lights on! Tony saw him..... waving at him....
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Just jumping back here as I'm so bummed. Got home tonight and turned on my computer and my news page jumped out with the word that Robin Williams passed away this morning. He was so irreverently funny. He was depressed and died of asphyxia. I think depression is a very terrible disease process. It is hard for me to think of it since normally I'm usually pretty up. Even when I'm not, my blue moods seem to have a short shelf life --- it is just hard for me not to spring into happiness over lots of everyday events.
I'm going to miss his wit and unique style......I wish his family and loved ones peace.
Blessings,
Jackie
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Gardengumby, you must be roasting in the 90 degree heat in Washington. You all are not used to those kind of temps, right? Here in Texas we would consider that a rather mild summer day! My daughter in Chicago has been complaining how hot it has been there this summer. She even bought an air conditioner for her bedroom. I told her to remember all of this in six months when she is digging her car out from another blizzard.
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93 in Seattle. People think we're wimps if they live where it's really hot, but very few people have air conditioning here. Ours is a big fan in the window and we're pretty typical. We just got back from Hood River where it was 99, but they do have air conditioning there.
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So sorry Wren. All of you are suffering from the heat. When we lived in Germany no one had air conditioning. It wasn't needed. After 5 years we moved directly to Texas...in August! Thought we were going to melt and people called it a mild summer.
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Jackie....Hi Dear one..... I just posted this on the Insomnia thread... Yes, "depression,"...... the vicious circle from alcohol, drugs, and then depression... I just am kind of mad about it though
"Morning all...Man, I just couldn't
beLIEVE this about Robin Williams.... Guess it was more than" just"
depression... Just kind of makes me sad AND mad.... I mean so much to live for,
always giving us so much...Alcohol, not to mention drugs on top of it, is a beast
you can hardly ever fight alone...... Like he said.... "It's just
there"...I Remember going home from school, and my Dad was sitting
on the couch with a shot-gun across his lap crying. I just didn't know what to
do! He finally left with the gun, and I called my Mom, and she got Grandma, and
they all went out to find him.... at his girl-friends house!Well, he didn't get a chance to kill himself, but I
thought my Mom and Grandma were going to do it FOR him....Alcohol and drugs just make everyone's life
miserable.... If they can control it, that is a miracle....Yes, they can hide it, behind humor, and always the happy
go-lucky guy, always on top of the world, when they are drunk.... they can hide
it from everyone except their family."Beloved
actor Robin Williams was found dead on Monday, police reported.He
was 63.The
apparent cause of death was suicide by asphyxiation, authorities said.
Accordingto his publicist, Williams had been battling severe depression
and spent time in rehab as recently as July.Police
said that Williams was found unconscious around noon in his home in Tiburon,
California, near San Francisco."In 2006, after 20
years sober, he checked himself into rehab for alcoholism. He opened up about his struggles with addiction to alcohol and cocaine in
a powerful interview with The Guardian and on "Good Morning
America.""It's
not caused by anything, it's just there," he said. "It waits. It lays in wait
for the time when you think, 'It's fine now, I'm OK.' Then, the next thing you
know, it's not OK. Then you realize, 'Where am I? I didn't realize I was in
Cleveland.'"Last
month, he spent time at Hazelden Addiction Treatment Center in a continued
sobriety program. His publicist told HuffPost at the time that he was doing
well."I'm sorry, but to me, it is just selfish! My gal-friends Dad did the same thing..... A drunk all his life..... All of us kids just growing up, and trying to believe this family stuff was "normal!"
But my friend's Brother walked in the garage, with his little Daughter, and there was his Dad.... in the car.... That whole family had to go in therapy!
So yes, I loved Robin Williams, and all he was known for.... but hurting soooooo many people with his "choices", is all I can think about.
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He's going to be missed. We've lost some incredible talent in the last year.0 -
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Golly, don't know what to say about Robin. Having a bi-polar son and seeing the highest of highs and incredible lows and knowing how difficult to exhibit the control over those.....sometimes to even understand and perceive it all. People don't want to have that disease -- yet it is like any other. Robin was able to co-exist with it only so long.
I remember my best friend after my first marriage. A brilliant person --- but she too suffered this disease and she too......took her own life. In the note she left ( and I know this to be absolutely true ) she spoke about how she tried everything she could find to be cured. She knew her enemy very well. I do think these people work hard to "find the way". Joanie said that she felt she would be forgiven and she prayed a long time about her in-ability to discover what would help her remain here on the Earth.
In the end she told her family in the note that she prayed hard that she could watch over them and intercede on their behalf from eternity. She had great sorrow in leaving them but didn't feel adequate for them in her condition.
Who ever knows what it is like. We who do not suffer TRUE depression/bi-polar can only stand by and support as best we can. RIP Robin.
Blessings
Jackie
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Amen - to that. I wasn't aware Robin Williams was bi-polar, I knew he was clinically depressed. Major depressive disorder is terribly difficult to live with, my MIL has it. People who think depression compares to being sad for a few days really don't understand.
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Hope you guys don't mind but this subject is especially close to my heart. I read all your posts and I think Jackie nailed it. We don't know what it's like to be bi-polar. I do have a DH who is and in fact 3 of his sibs have "mental" issues they are dealing with. My DH planned to do just what RW did. That was in 2002. By the grace of God he changed his mind but not before he did serious damage to his throat. He spent months in the trauma center. They truly saved his life. He had swallowing problems for months and severed an artery. Its hard to look at that scar and not remember what almost happened.
My youngest son was 11 at the time. It was extremely difficult to help him understand. It was hard for me to understand. We are blessed we survived this crisis financially and emotionally. There will always be scars but counseling has helped. Btw there was no note. I was completely surprised by his actions.
Some people just don't understand people who are bi-polar can't just shake off a bad mood or depression. My DH has a chemical imbalance. He isn't a violent person but he does have mood swings. Meds have helped a lot.
When this happened he wasn't taking his meds like he was supposed to. Didn't know. It took me a long time to forgive him for that.
I really liked RW. GMA did a tribute to him. It was so sad. I loved him in Mrs. Doubt fire and Good Will Hunting. Such a versatile actor and so funny too!
It is definitely painful for the loved ones you leave behind. I know several people who lost their spouses and children through suicide. You tend to do a number on yourself because somehow you could have prevented this or you convince yourself it's your fault. You couldn't and it's not. I finally came to terms with that too.
RIP Robin Williams
Diane
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Diane, I'm so glad your husband didn't succeed in his suicide attempt.
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The best descriptions of depression I've read were Darkness Visible by William Styron (sp?) and the cartoon Hyperbole and a Half. As a counselor I would ask clients, "Have you been so depressed that you needed to go to the store for cigarettes and cat food, but first you'd have to put on your sox and that's too hard?" The response was usually a look of relief that I did understand. 90% of depressed people are helped by medication. That leaves 10% who aren't.
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Diane, What a hard thing for you, your husband and your family to have lived through. But you all came out victorious on the other side. That surely took a tremendous amount of grace and effort. Good for you.Yes, losing Robin Williams is a tragedy. He was a comedic genius who left this world in such a sad way. So ironic that someone who made others so happy with his gift was so very sad himself.
I don't know if I can remember names from previous posts over the weekend, but I have to say, that several brought tears to my eyes. Every summer we rent a house in the mountains of Virginia where an Episcopal retreat is located for our kids and grandkids. We were there this weekend and had a blast with the 7 grandkids, watching them have the time of their lives playing together. Plus, all the home cookin' delicious food was there 3 times a day without any of us lifting a finger to cook. Heaven - literally and figuratively. Anyway, I could read but not post anything without my pc. So will try to remember some specifics.
Blondie & Puffin - You both touched me so deeply. You are both brave, forward looking, and positive women. I try to be the same, but we all have our "off" days, and the next time I do have an "off" day, I will think of you. Cammi and Chevy, your posts are witty and so true. You are both great examples. In fact, everyone here is a great example of how to live life fully and roll with the punches.
Hugs to all,
Paula
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Thanks Paula. I often tell people to keep the faith so during that time I tried to practice what I preach. We thank God every day for getting us through our difficult times.
Diane
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Diane..... I feel so bad for you..... I know mental health is so important, and bi-polar, or any other personality dis-orders just wreak havoc on a family....
My Dad wasn't depressed... well he was if he couldn't drink..... but alcohol abuse and drugs, are so different than trying to "fix" a mental health problem with the prescribed meds. People NEED prescribed meds to even funtion normally....
I just mean when I was grown, and trying to understand the alcoholism in my family, and with my DH, AND my FIL, and my Grandpa, and I was supposed to resign myself to the fact that alcoholism is an illness.... I was crying when I was talking to the counselor, but he said "They have to call it an illness so the Insurance will cover it!"
My Brother never forgave him..... but I was given the chance, and it all worked!I said but if they would just QUIT, they would be alright! I mean they HAVE to quit, when they go in for treatment, AND if they go to Prison.... They HAVE to stop the drugs and alcohol. And then it is done! They have to care enough to stay clean.
I finally asked my Dad..... "Can't you just stop?" He just said, "I DO sometimes!"
I mean our lives were miserable growing up, not to mention Mom's..... I finally forgave my Dad after my Mom passed away.... I got to know him..... after 50 years! I knew he loved us, but he drove us all away..... But I was lucky that I got to know my Father, and really love him as my Dad....
My Brother never forgave him..... but I was given the chance, and it all worked!
An "illness" to me is something we can't do anything about.... like breast cancer... like Diabetes! Any disease that we can or cannot control or that may take our life, is to me, different than abusing alcohol or drugs and saying it is an illness.....
I guess we all know family or friends who have taken their lives.... And Diane, you two were given another chance! I commend you for that.....
Yes, My Mom always thought, well maybe if I didn't work, or maybe if I drank WITH him..... and us kids were just trying to stay out of the road....
It's all just a preventable tragedy.... I feel so bad for all of his friends and family..... his kids.....
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Hi to all. I just wrote a post and tried to post it. But the post didn't post!
We had a power outage Sunday night that messed up the wireless internet service here in the campground. I'm using our Verizon data card, and it doesn't work very well.
Hope everyone is having a good Tuesday.
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Hello All my Friends - I haven't been here since the weekend and am amazed at all that has been shared about family worries, bra fitting, chemo, and more. I can't add much to the great advice given by others concerning letting go/getting rid of people in our lives that cause trouble. We all know what the end result needs to be but it is so hard to do. Anne I don't know how you do it, but you are holding on with dignity and love. Blondie I think of you daily. I firmly believe my husband comes to me and intervenes in situations he knows I can't handle alone. When strange and wonderful small miracles happen to me or my kids, we just say "papa's in town."
I'm babysitting for my two grandsons: six and two and a half. Hi parents are commuting to work this week from my lake place and the kids stay with me. The parents start the school year this week, kids school and daycare middle of next week. So I am on the calendar for the next ten years to handle these days. Now that's optimism for you. Monday was beach day, today we had silly string fights in the park. Tomorrow is movie day in the living room with popcorn and soda.
My daughter and I almost took the boat out for the first time alone tonight. But we are soooo glad we didn't do it because, sure enough, there was some sort of mechanical trouble and warning sound. She would have been blamed for the rest of her life for motor trouble on the boat. We did see about 15 deer grazing the hills on part of the lake and cranes or blue herons along the shore. The lake is long but only developed on one side, so the long west side has no houses. Nature abounds. Wish you could all join me for ice tea or something brisker.
I'll be more in touch when my daycare duties wane. These days I need my sleep. Good good night all.
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