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Spookie your profile was different than Mags. You had pain and swelling in a leg. She doesn't. Huge difference. Based on what you are describing for you Spookie you were throwing off micro clots. Very uncomfortable. Very irritating to the lungs. Very. You were lucky they were small clots:) are you on Coumadin? What was the origin of the clot? do you have a filter? How long ago. Post-op when it happened? bedridden? Too much computer time?0 -
The leg didn't start till about a week after I thought DS#2 gave me his cold. Nobody did X-rays, until hospital. Walking to car would double me over, couldn't breath. Hard non productive cough. Don't know about heart rate, have Afib anyway.
At hospital, immediate heparin, filter installed. On COUMADIN for life, 6 years ago. The one in lungs was good size, all medics said I was VERY lucky.
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Spookie were you laying around that week being sick. i.e not moving around like usual? Causes of thromophelebitis in the leg. Prolonged sitting i.e car rides, airplane ride, bedridden/couchridden for an extended period from any source, ill fitting ted hose, pelvic surgery(clot originates in the pelvis), fractures, extremity surgery. S/s' Pain in one leg, pain when walking on the leg, pain progressively worse as clot gets worse, Redness in clot area, swelling progressively worse. Warm to touch over the red area. Progressive pain when bringing the toe/ forefoot towards the nose. Words are relative, I said microclots. A moving clot is an embolus. The key is if they are too big and they block the pulmonary artery, person's toast.. If they get by the main pulmonary artery, they lodge in one of the branches. How big the branch that's blocked determines how severe the chest symptoms are. Early recognition is key to survival.
Things can get very complicated if there is already something going on in the chest. Early signals may be missed. In the hospital each shift of nurses are supposed to do a head to toe exam to look for any new findings.
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Mags what is your OX you are saying what the pulse is...Mine is always ok it is the ox that is the problem walking around from room to room, when it gets really bad I get a pain in my chest right in the middle. the dr says it is that the air is not going from the rigtht lung to the left lung the way it is supposed to. I am on z pac have 3 more days, still coughing and bringing up flem, clear tho. I probably need a chest exray also....0 -
Nope, none of the above. Colin had been sick, I thought I caught it. Went to Dr. Levaquin. Made me sick. Zpak next. Walking to bathroom, out for mail, doubled me over. PE came first. Then the DVT.
All I could think of in hospital was they are filling me with rat poison.
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I hope you two get over your respiratory thing! Sounds miserable. Hugs.
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Thanks, Sassy. Cough - just occasional, not paroxysmal, not painful. The cultures they did were blood, I haven't coughed up more than a teaspoon of mucus in the nearly two weeks since it started, and it wasn't green or even yellow.
MO will have the radiologist report. Will update tomorrow. Thanks for all the info, and concern.
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Opinions please....Dh and I were thinking of taking little dd to the State Fair this weekend. We haven't been in a few years and invited my parents to come along. My dad told me tonight he was concerned about me going because of the Ebola deal and that I needed to be extra careful because I'm probably still somewhat imuno-compromised.
Anyway, is this an overreaction? I hadn't even thought about it, but now it has me wondering. Is this paranoia or just being smart?
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Hello Tang, my opinion it's paranoia. So difficult for those of us that has been assaulted with chemo to get moving again. Don't borrow trouble. The more I enjoy activities that seemed so easy & natural ( in our old life ) the better I feel.
I would be more concerned about eating all that fair food.....lol.....
I read your post several days ago, being overwhelmed with all of your roles. I believed by now all cancer related crap would be behind me. I was wrong. Still struggle with fatigue, anxiety ( although SO much better ). My new outlook is no time lines, be easy on myself, try to relax & enjoy life & short, wild hair....
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tang, I'm with GGirl, overreaction. Go and enjoy. Again with GGirl ,I about the food lol. Again with GGirl nice philosophy
Spookie okay I'll leave it be After you answer this question? If there is someone lurking and they read something here that's wrong and based on that makes a wrong judgement ....what? Eventually I could get you to understand it. But in the space of all things it doesn't matter.
Rose what's your nursing background.?,
Lmg, in the OR, I had a couple three gas gangrene cases. I'm betting the suiting is different now. Sheet,ugh just remember we no respirators. I agree I'd last only a little bit now. In the old days hours and hours.
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tangandchris - I have somewhat of a different opinion on what constitutes "precaution" and "paranoia"...
My DH has incurable kidney disease. He takes Gengraf and Prednisone in very large doses, helping with his disease, but effectively destroying his immune system.
We have become like Howard Hughes around here.... complete germaphobes. We go through Costco-sized cans of Lysol spray (we even spray the soles of our shoes before we enter the house...); we wipe down counters with Clorox wipes, and each time we have to go for a doctor's visit, we wear surgical masks. We both carry hand sanitizer and use it constantly.
We are very careful to not be around our grandchildren when they are sick, which is difficult, as he comes from a family that ALWAYS insists they are not contagious. GRRRR!
I follow the same universal precautions. If I get sick, he'll get sick, only he can't fight it off. (He did get a nasty stomach virus that I dodged thanks to our crazy precautions!!!)
We chose not to go to the County Fair this year, not because of germs, but because of weather. It was HOT!
I wouldn't be paranoid about Ebola, but at the same time I do not believe that it is as difficult to catch as the CDC would have you believe.
In 1982, I almost died from Hepatitis B ("Dirty Needle Hepatitis"). I was hospitalized for a week, and on Disability for a year. Every medical professional told me the only means of transmission was through bodily fluids..... sharing of IV needles, sex with an infected person, etc. Only I had NONE of those. Eventually, my Gastroenterologist told me that "anyone could have coughed in your face." YIKES!
So I definitely think Ebola will be found to be much more transmissable than first thought.
HOWEVER - and this is a big one - we can't live our lives locked up inside our houses or in plastic bubbles.
After what you have been through this year, you NEED some fun and some normalcy in your life.
If you have the physical energy to go (and even if you don't, there are wheelchairs available) you should probably take advantage of this opportunity, and have fun!!!!
Just be safe. Take disposable masks, plenty of hand sanitizer, and use caution around anyone who is sneezing or coughing. There are tons of viruses out there besides Ebola.
And if you go..... please post pics!!!!!
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Well, tonight is Night # 6 with my loaner APAP machine.
The first few nights were difficult... I was futzing with the headgear and the masks all night long... kept changing from Small to Medium sized ones.
And it was VERY hard to find a happy medium between Desert Mouth and Drooling. (The loaners don't have humidifiers.)
I'll turn the machine back in this coming Wednesday, along the computer chip inside it that measured my air intake, and the log I kept every night of how I did.
I haven't noticed much difference in how I feel, except that for the past 3 nights I do remember dreaming (finally reaching REM sleep) and this morning I felt rested. Not "energetic", but more rested than before.
Once they analyze the results,they'll order my personalized machine, which I should get in 3 weeks.
I got the actual Pulmonologist's report from my PCP - it shows that I have not only Obstructive Sleep Apnea (the most common kind, where big guys snore like chainsaws and then gasp for breath - only I don't snore) and CENTRAL Sleep Apnea.
For some reason my brain does not tell my body to breathe. I can lie in bed for what seems like five minutes without taking a breath, and when I do, it's just a shallow breath - not a gasp for air. That's a little scary, and I'm not sure what causes it, but the treatment - the APAP machine - is the same.
Hoping this works for me!
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good morning everyone
I finally slept. I feel so good this morning. It is so beautiful to get a good nights sleep !
Have a great day all !
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it's wrong if somebody goes to ER? It's wrong to get checked out?
Guess we will have to agree to disagree on this.
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CHEVY, I can't get it to go either. Sorry!
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Ah geez! I get up this morning, and you are all sick! I mean if you are NOT sick, you all give such good/excellent advice on what our problems could BE! Do you all know how fortunate we are here, to have these educated women on here? Thanks to all of you....!
It all comes down to if you can't fix it yourselves, just go get it checked out.!
See, DH waited for 2 weeks, always losing energy.... couldn't climb stairs....! 2 WEEKS and would not go in.
Finally, he could barely WALK a few steps! I made an appointment... (He thought it was nothing.) Went in.... tests, they stopped doing everything abruptly after the cardiogram, and wanted to call the ambulance to take him to hospital. It was Heart Block. He let this go on for 2 weeks, feeling terrible!
I drove him there... him still acting like no big deal! They rushed him in, because the DR. had called, telling them a Heart Block patient was coming in.
Cardilogist came right in... Pacemaker the next morning. It WAS serious after all!
Line going through his groin up into his heart... and a St. Judes Pacemaker installed.... just like a new engine!
The top of his heart was alright, but the bottom part had quit... He was almost damn near dead, and would have been if he had stubbornly waited any longer.
So I'm glad you guys are all listening, and advising on here! We just have to listen to our own bodies... Except I mean most Husbands don't... but that's another story.
This is something sweet, I thought!
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Punography
1.) I tried to catch some fog…..I mist.
2.) When chemists die….They barium.
3.) Jokes about German sausage are the wurst.
4.) A soldier who survived mustard gas and pepper spray…Is now a
seasoned veteran5.) I know a guy who’s addicted to brake fluid…He says he can stop
anytime.6.) How does Moses make his tea ?…..Hebrews it.7.) I stayed up all night to see where the sun went….The it dawned on
me.8.) This girl said she recognized me from the vegetarian club..But I never
met herbivore.9.) I’m reading a book about inti-gravity…..I can’t put it down.10.) I did a theatrical performance about puns…..It was a play on
words.11.) They told me I had type A blood…But it was a type O.12.) A dyslexic man walks into a bra.13.) PMS jokes aren’t funny….Period !
14.) Why were the Indians here first ?….They had reservations.
15.) Class trip to the Coca Cola factory…..I hope there’s no pop
quiz.
16.) Energizer Bunny arrested……Charged with battery.
17.) I didn’t like my beard at first….Then it grew on me.
18.) How do you make Holy water ?….Boil the hell out of it.
19.) What do you call a dinosaur with an extensive vocabulary ?…A
thesaurus.
20.) When you get a bladder infection….urine trouble.
21.) What does a clock do when it is hungry ?..It goes back for
seconds.
22.) I wondered why the baseball was getting bigger….And then it hit
me.
23.) Broken pencils are
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Spookie wasn't' t referring to that. I was referring to the condition thing.
But to continue in that direction, she doesn't' t have s/s' s that are similar to yours.
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OMG Spookie! I did it! I think my computer was on the fritz yesterday.
So I have this girlfriend I have known since we were about 12... Our Brothers were in the Denver Junior Police Band together... We all grew up together, and I introduced her to "Bob." He was my neighbor boy since grade-school.... They got married! I was the maid of honor, which I have no recollection of.
Had 3 little girls... lost the 2nd one, due to everything going wrong with the baby, ...... So they had another one.
We all would get together... Us and our kids and them.
They finally moved from THIS house, and we moved in! That was 1964. Then somehow, due to her controlling, Lord of the world attitude, they got divoced, due to his indiscretions, or whatever. So that meant I should not ever talk to him again.
But I did, once in awhile, because I had grown UP with him! But their marriage was a complete bust. She hated him, and still does, and it almost consumes her. She turned out to be a rigid old lady with more grudges than she can handle.
Their Daughter's won't even talk about their Dad, because she is so bitter about her life, that she can't stand to have any one talking about him.
She had lunch with a Grand-daughter.... She told him Bob had open heart surgery! Now she doesn't know why they didn't SAY anything to her!
So I wrote her back, and told her just how I felt... That it is time to bury the hatchet, and the hatred she has had for him for way too many years... that it hurts her Daughter's AND me to know we must never spedak his name....
That she should learn how to forgive and forget.... for her own good. I'll tell you, when she thinks of him, she just freezes up! Her face turns red, and she clenches her fists.
It has hurt our friendship, because she is just so bitter, and no fun to be around.... so I might have PO'd a friend, but she deserved it.
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OMG I come here and everyone has some kind of cough/flu or waiting for it. I don't think it's catchable thru the screen at least.
Tang I hope u did the fair thing, sounds like fun, well really not to md I hate those things but to most and especially kids.
Chevy it is my responsibility to educate Joey my goofy DD thinks he's to young and is embarrassed, I'm not and he isn't really talking to me and since I learned it on the streets like every other tramp I'm sure to be an expert now, oh like you. U've had more street learning that I did for a longer time.
I'm so glad to hear when someone tells us they slept well last nite, something we all took for granted before now we treasure.
I have to run, well not literally, can't do that anymore, but I have to limp along to get things done here and ready for work, yes chevy my little job takes a lot of wise advice-like call the firedept first, or just leave the house, or call 911 or even call a riest for an excorsism,, I am not aloud to continue that advice anymore but I did tell one woman divorce her Dh, he wants the furnace to hot==Egad I have to do my job.
Hope everyone has a good day--it's still raining here.
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Just lounging around for a bit before I get in gear.
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Chevy, very funny play on words !!
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Chevy your list just cracks me up!! Where did you find that. What a hoot.
Hope you guys go to the fair and enjoy yourself. You are not going to catch ebola at the fair! Might get a tummy ache from all the fried food!
Enjoy the farm animals and the 4H animal projects - always my favorite part of the State fair!!!
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http://www.breastcancer.org/community/get-together...
Hi you guys! I couldn't figure out how to post our picture on BC.ORG, under "get togethers!" But the Mods did it, and sent this back to me... If I would have gone through all 40 pictures, there is a link where you can post it yourself.... but I am NOT exactly computer endowed!
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This just cracks me up!
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Funny list chevy!!Thanks for the feedback on the fair deal
I will let ya'll know what we decide to do. I was also invited to do the Komen walk this Satuday. My BS's office has a team and asked me to join them....but to register it's $35!! Shouldn't BC'ers get a discount or no charge?? sheesh. 0 -
That's us, but the caption and names are wrong! State is wrong too!
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Tang - I'm with everyone else. Go and enjoy. I think Ebola in the general population is overhyped. Not that flu and other things are aren't out there but those kind of things you can get anywhere. Most of the fair is open air anyway. Take your hand sanitizer. Try not to touch your nose/eyes/mouth without sanitizing. Soap/water is not magic - it's actually the friction that removes the germies then rinses them off. Can be done with sanitzer but you need a goooood squirt and lots of rubbing. The fair might have sanitizer dispensers. Move away from anyone coughing which I do at the grocery (wonder if you can still smoke there?). Just be smart. Plan that it will be a great day - weather sounds perfect. But be aware it will prob. be a shorter visit than you've done. Rest when you can. Let DH do more so you can sit and enjoy DD. Take your sunscreen. Eat a Fletchers' cornydog for me.
Sassy - did you have those special fit masks, not respirator-fancy type but reg. boxed kind? The ones you have to have a test to fit to check how much air escapes. Talk about suffocating. I took a standard size, thank goodness otherwise doubt I could have had it so readily available.
Going for a pedi in a bit. A treat for sure. Last one was after surgery almost 3 years ago. Shoulders bothering me so much I can't really reach toes well. And my fat belly getting in the way.
Chevy - loved the puns.
Spookie - I'ss cornfused. What's wrong with the captions?
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Good Morning all, I do not think I have ever posted these photos. I live a few miles from the falls. Thought I would share.
Chevy, good job gently telling your friend to move on. She married this man, chose to have 3 kids with him. Women that try to control the DH & kids generally seem unhappy in the end.
Susan, love that coffee photo. Happy you slept well & feel good.
Tang, I agree, you should walk for free! I have participated in many walks, runs, fundraisers. Always nice to participate but sometimes seems silly to spend $ on something I can do for free. There is a St. Patrick's 5K that is my favorite. People dress up with green, spring is starting, they have a fish lunch after. Lots of families, multi generations. The $ goes to the local youth programs.
Have we heard from Dutchie lately? Badger?
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I found out today that the CT scan they did was specifically to rule out pulmonary embolism. Today they did a chest X-ray and echocardiogram along with blood work. They cannot find anything that would account for the shortness of breath, they can't even hear it. But they decided to play it safe and not take the chance that chemo could make things worse. So I will see the MO Monday morning and he will decide what to do. I'll be finished with Avelox by then. A bit disappointed, wanted to ring that bell, but silver lining is I get to eat for the next 6 days. Cousin is making chicken enchilada soup for me.
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