INSOMNIACS place to talk in the wee hours
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Jazzie it's all in the money. I'm sure the big wigs all over the country watched that Colorado documentary. 50 million in tax money on billions of dollars. The secondary industries that have sprung up to support the primary industry .$$$$ and people are working. Colorado set it up right. Then there's poor Oregon that didn't set it up right. They have to much pot at the growers level. They can't sell it b/c the government didn't set up the laws right. Distribution is a fiasco. The farmers are mad. Blaming it all on the government. LOL.
There is a guy in Ohio that was making machines to extract flower oils. He noticed a blip in sales. Followed the money(orders). His machines are being used to extract pot oil. Totally legal. His business plan says he will make 750 million next year. He's putting a bunch of people to work. Completely legal.
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Smarty- I had one friend who lives back in my home state who I thought would be better about it. She very quickly distanced herself from me and then remembered that summer before, she had lost some work associates to advanced melanoma. She was really freaked out about it when those friends passed, and then when I remembered that, I got it that she was not going to go there with me. So I let her stay at a distance.
She e-mailed me at one point about how I was doing during treatment (rads at that point) and had a lot of fatigue. I don't need to tell any of you how that can take over sometimes. She was not understanding about that either, and I got a big lecture about being depressed. I told her the fatigue was from treatment, then I stopped talking to her.
She tried to resume with me at one point hoping to see me if I was back east (I was last summer and did not let her know) and with e-mails about whatever was going on in her world. My fair weather friend came back! At this point, I just send a Xmas card to let her know I am doing okay. I am not sure I am even going to do that this next year. The friendship just sort of feels over (but also think it was fading before anyways). Sometimes we need to let some relationships have their natural ending.
So I understand the friend you don't see so much anymore. Bet we all have a few of those after this. I am thankful for the ones who went through it with me and still stick around!
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Sas- cool about the guy in Ohio extracting pot oil. My friend going through chemo now got some oil that doesn't have the THC (the part that makes you high).
You had polio too? Dang, sister.
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My Mom had polio. We have had quite an outbreak of measles on the West Coast and stupid parents think getting an MMR vaccine will kill their kids, or make them autistic. Ignorance. My adopted daughter is just a gem. Genetics think she had rubella, or rather Mom had rubella. So my DD is mildly retarded, mildly autistic and deaf. For the want of a 15$ vaccine she would be perfect. My Mom told us stories that when she had polio, the kid next door died and the one on the other side of her house ended up in a wheel chair. After therapy and all, my Mom learned to walk. She is fine. So all my kids got vaccinated. We have a Walforf school in Portland Oregon where something like 30% of the kids are unvaccinated. Incredible. The parents need to walk around the airport in Bangkok and see the beggars, blind, withered legs propped up on skate boards, deaf all begging for hand-outs. You would get your kids shots after seeing those pitiful human beings.
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Chevy, love u r stories
Rose so sorry for the progression cancer sucks
Everbody else sorry no individual shout outs
Reading...am still in rehab, going to another on on sunday bc of insurance and now have viral pneumonia
Wth
Have a good 1
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Oh Blondie, pneumomia? I will PM you.
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Blondie CHIT..................Why are they blaming a virus?
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Rosie & Jazzy, We(brother, twin, and I) had polio in 1952. Two years before the vaccine was approved by FDA. In Salks obituary, I read he vaccinated his kids in June 1952. We had it in Sept. 1952. That was a tuff read. Polio affected all our lives till present and into the future. Bummer. I was to be put in a lung by morning if I didn't improve. Life throws curves. Grandma came to the rescue. DB came down with it first. While the parents were with him at the hospital she came in and gave us enemas. One after the other all night long. Enemas were an old time thing. She was an old time grandma, but she was shy 2months of being a nurse. (She got married, couldn't be married and be a nursing student).In my 30's I learned that the polio virus was absorbed from the large colon. Well that was interesting. Grandmas treatment may have made a difference. We still got sick, but not as bad. The doc told my Mom I was the sickest of the 3. Life after was always affected by polio.
Dear Chinese friend said later in life that in China, The ones that were affected came from the homes that were the cleanest. It was interesting in that there was a stigma of polio. that had a dirty connection.
Polio taught me allot. It was the origin of interest in nursing. Origin for teaching .Origin for science interest.. Origin for acceptance of orthodox and alternative. Mom and Dad STOLE us out of the orthodox hospital and took us to a Sister Kinney Clinic. I was 2 y 4 months and can remember the steal. Quite, Quite,, down the back stairs, out to the car and speeding away.
I started nursing school at that same hospital Harper in Detroit. A friend and I snuck up to the closed unit in 1971. It was bizarre walking those halls. Looking over a LUNG was the most bizarre.
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can't keep up so just skimming, hopefully can go back and read later.
Sugar cakes, welcome and sorry you have to find yourself here. Someone here can probably relate to you and what you're going thru. I speak from experience there.
Blondie, so sorry for all you're going thru! Was hoping for a good report from you. Prayers being said and love and hugs being sent your went.
Rose, the same to you as I said to Blondie. And with all you're going thru, you are an angel to your loving kids. They broke the mold after you. Some schools here in SoCal sent unvaccinated kids home from school. Read an interesting comment from a concerned mom's POV. Will see if I can find it.
Chevy, thanks for the finger knitting video. Interesting but trying to find a use for that rope-thingy. In answer to your chemo question: goes throughout the body, that's why there's so much chemo brain which affects memory and cognitive functions. Thank goodness SE usually aren't permanent. Also, after my chemo, I'd get pain in my joints not unlike a terrible flu
Susan, you are so beautiful and have such a radiant smile!
Ms Sassy Pants, thanks for checking on me! Means a lot. Always wondered if I just disappeared would anyone care or even notice? You answered that. I know the chit in my life won't last, just gotta get thru it all. Lots of prayers help. Keeping in contact with my friends via texting and emails help. Just takes a lot of energy to keep from going to the dark side and not sleeping well. Last night I finally decided I was ready to sleep around 2 am. Walking upstairs saw flashing lights thru the blinds. EMT's and 1 fire truck across the street, didn't look emergency as they weren't rushing to get person transported. Then couldn't fall asleep for a while.
Rats, forgot what else I was going to say! Need to go back and read what I'm missing.
And for something completely different.... Went with DH to attorney to pick up some paper work and then walked a couple blocks to court house to file it all. On the walk back to the car, walked into a big protest going on. Googled it thinking it was no big deal - made the rounds in the national news circuit. Interesting. I need to get out of the house more.
Feels like a weather change, my cough is returning...
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Back to pot. In Florida. It was on the ballot for a Constitutional amendment in the last election in 2014. It needed 60% of the vote. It got 58%. The stupid media said it was soundly defeated. Right, 58% of the electorate voted for it. That ballot placement was by Democrats. Now, there is a bill before the legislature by the Republicans. They hold both houses and a Republican governor. Problem: they want to keep it medical marijuana, instead of decriminalizing it like Colorado, Washington, Oregon and DC. Unless it's decriminalized there is always going to be problems. Prohibition all over again. Can't believe they aren't looking at the economics. We could be the best producers in the world b/c of climate. It would completely turn around our economy. Florida Sunshine LOL. Oranges, lemons, limes, and pot.Stupid people that are against it have no clue of it's value. No one really does. It's real medicinal value hasn't been studied. Not allowed. But without study I can say this, it does less damage than alcohol and cigarettes, and many prescribed drugs I,e narcotics and benzodiazipines. bbl
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Hey222222222222222222 yeah checking. I'm a phoner
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King Ricky and his minions in Tally need to open their eyes to the millionS of $$$& coming in in taxes. Maybe it would open their stupid eyes.
I was so sorry that was defeated. And that he was able to buy the govs. Position again
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Rosie went back and found your post about the distal ends of the femurs. That sucks. But if that doc is smart he will publish your results. First rule of medicine "Do No Harm". Second rule should be "If you listen to your patients they will tell you what's wrong".0 -
Sugar Cakes, sorry you're here but a warm welcome nonetheless.
I got the "don't eat sugar" advice yesterday (from my sister). It must be something in the air, although I have to say I would have probably walked out on any nurse that gave me that advice.
Rose Valley, my parents told us many times how relieved they were when the vaccine was announced; they used to dread summer and the surge in polio cases. None of us had polio but knew people who did. I think today's parents are historically impaired. Such a waste.
I still have a workout to do (thanks for the info on exercise and PTSD, Sassy) and real work so will be responsible and go away for a while. Hugs to one and all.
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sas what do you mean strange hair,,,it's growing back from the last chemo, this chemo I eill grow some back again, but it will stay on the thinner side.
My heart goes out to all you suffering and facing challenges ahead of you. I pray you all keep growing strong and find the faith you need to keep putting one foot in front of the other
Love you girls...hugs and prayers
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Sas- thanks for sharing your story about the polio. I was born in 1960 so polio was not something I had to ever worry about, vaccinated of course as a child, but we knew people who had it. I would think the iron lung must have been very hard. However, as everything in life seems to have something to teach us, it lead you to your career as a nurse, and that was a good thing.
My mother's best friend, who was the most amazing woman, had polio back in the 1940's when she was a teen and was in a wheelchair her whole life. She and her husband had like 5 kids and then she adopted 3-4 more. They were an Irish Catholic family so big families were it. I always found her to be someone with a can do attitude about anything. She also just loved life and was always happy and laughing when I would see her. She and my mom were lifelong friends through thick and thin until the very end. They passed away within 2 months of each other too.
Oh and on the subject of sugar, I gave up the sweets in Sept of 2013. I stopped eating cookies, cakes, pies, candy, etc. when my A1C hit borderline diabetes. I have always had an addiction to sugar/sweets and since I had a parent with diabetes and already had gone through the ruptured appendix and bc diagnosis the fall before, I decided I had enough wake up calls. So I went cold turkey on the desert type things and also limit my carbs now too.
Now my PCP never told me to give up sugar, even with that A1C test, but I just decided my body was telling me it was time to let it go. The first few months were hard, but after that, I was fine. I have since found sugar free things when I really need something sweet. But the cravings are gone, and I feel better as a result of giving it up. And I turned the A1C around too and am in the normal range now with careful eating. Even the nutritionist I saw during that whole thing says diabetics rarely give up sugar completely. I am still working to loose weight.
So who got told to give up sugar and why?
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Sas...we you talking about the yarn as my hair and I missed that joke...ha ha ha
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Spookie it was actually very good that it was defeated. To be put into the state constitution was a real problem. It would have meant any changes to the law would take additional constitutional amendments. Very messy. That's why the Republicans are working through a Law. A law can be changed without much work. But they are doing it for medicinal marijuana only. NOT decriminalizing pot. Republicans may not like the idea of pot, but they don't want it in the constitution. If they write a law they have control. They want control. And based on what the news has said they are in no way shape or form decriminalizing it. The republicans now want the law written the way they want it.0 -
The stupid "sugar" thing------------------just like asparagus----------------Bad science. Stupid science---------stupid media0 -
And the sugar advice is usually handed out gratuitously by people who have no idea whether we like sugary stuff or not. In my case, not.
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Wow Sass incredible story about your polio and your brother. Funny how those of us who grew up with these stories understand the fear and pain polio caused. It is real to us. I think parents today think it's no big threat. wrong. You have over come so much. Jazzy girl- love the story about your Mom's best friend having 6 kids and being a polio survivor. She sounds amazing.
Sas I was struck by your comment that you hoped the breast cancer specialist would publish results about my proximal tibias having cancer mets as well as the distal ends of the femurs. Bilateral bone mets in both knees. This doctor was adamant that no on gets cancer in their knees. No point in even looking. I proved him wrong, all they had to do was scan there. I have the radiologist to thank for helping me solve my pain in that area!! I hope he does publish it.
Maybe if oncologists would listen and treat the entire patient and stop looking at us as just "a cancer" we would get "whole cancer patient care," instead of just cancer care. I want care focused on me too, not just the cancer! I think the paradigm needs to change in oncology to a greater emphasis on side effect management, pain management and well being for the person with cancer -in addition to treating the cancer, especially in stage 4 patients.
My goodness Blondie...you will be permanently listed on my prayer wall. I'm not taking you down ever, too risky. You just fizzle. I hope you get better soon. Is your ankle any better?
Oregon decriminalized pot last ballot. I voted for it. Now if you are over 21 you can smoke. No more spending zillion $$ on potheads with a single joint. Go after the big stuff... pounds of heroin and coke and murders and pimps. Make our tax dollars work.
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Rosevalley - I'm with you on the Anti-Vaxxers. My DIL is one of them, and she wonders why we don't have our grandkids over to our house. They always have some illness, and now with the measles outbreak, if DH caught it, it could kill him. He has no immune system. (We did just go to Kaiser this afternoon for blood tests to see if we had immunity, either from a prior bout in childhood, or childhood or adult vaccinations.)
Sassypants - my FIL had polio as a child. He recovered enough to be accepted into the military in WWII, but then it came back with a vengeance as Post-Polio Syndrome in his later years. His left side is weak and atrophied, and he has no anterior tibialis muscle at all. And this was the side he fell on and broke his hip! But he's a rock star.... did everything they asked of him in Rehab, and volunteered to do more. He wears an AFO in his left shoe for severe foot drop, and prior to the fall, never used a cane or a walker. He figured exercise was good for him. Now he'll have to be more careful, but he thinks of his hip replacement as a bump in the road. Quite amazing for 93 years of age.
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Still sore but doing okay.
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Morning gals..... I don't know how I get soooooooooo far behind, and I am HERE every day! I just know that all of you know so much more than I could ever HOPE to know!
I fouldn't figure out why Sass was looking at a "lung" and then I read that she must have meant an iron lung???? THOSE days, with the Polio scare were so REAL to me. We had to quit smimming in Berkley Park Lake, with Camp Fire girls, because the water was so dirty, and they were SURE that we would catch Polio. A LOT of kids in my school got it, and we ALL had to be so careful of this "epidemic"... Remember they would put the serum on a sugar cube? So we could eat that instead of a shot!
My Brother had Rheumatic Fever... That was bad enough! We were kids, so I don't remember what it was all about, but there were soooo many dreaded diseases during the late 40's and early 50's. And immunity shots were, and should be considered life-savers.... but these "modern" parents have decided they don't NEED those... that the scare is over, with Chicken Pox, Measles, Small Pox, Diptheria... etc! The States should not allow kids into school, without proof of immunity shots..... Even Whooping-cough!
And who was it that said about a "heel drop"??? I think that's why I limp.... If you have that kind of injury, I think your bones just don't grow back together right... If one leg is shorter than the other, you DO limp... BLESSINGS! It was you! I believe that! Any old illness, can come back in later years, with different symptoms, or are set off... triggered by something else! I have to go find my lifts.....Either that, or walk with my cane move.
He's your FIL? He IS a Rock Star! Yes.... us "older" folk have to think of being more careful....... Now watch Cammi come on here, and give me a ration of YOU'RETHEOLDEST LIVINGCREATURE ONEARTH!
And Blondie! You now have Pneumonia? It's no wonder... People get sick in those places! Hospitals, rehab centers, and it's just one of those things we can't get away from! You go there to get BETTER, and then wind up with something ELSE. I'm just plain sorry!
And "too much sugar?????" Nope, that's not possible.... I mean doesn't have any significance on our chances of getting cancer... neither does Saccharin, too much fat in our diet.... gravy.... or bisquits.
Remember Suzanne Sommers came out with how she cured her cancer with her own ideas and stuff? And how we could go to Singapore or where was it, and talk to this John of God, and he would cure us?
Yes, I know a lady who would NOT do chemo after her Lumpectomy, stage 3... lymph nodes involved... but instead went to see this guru, and came home "free" of cancer.... She had a "set-back" a month later.... started chemo.... then passed away. And this really is a true story...... You just have to think, that if she would have continued her suggested treatment, listened to her Doctors' that she would have had a CHANCE! Man, I would take every thread of hope, or treatment I could get....
Except Tamoxifen..... That one was not for me.... I'll just have an occasional chocolate coke... and eat gravy and mashed potatoes. Then I can beat anything.
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Mommy- I am glad you are doing okay. Keep taking those painkillers for the soreness and hope your mom is taking good care of you.
Chevy- I had a work colleague/friend who was diagnosed with bc the year I first met her. She had a lumpectomy, but did all other treatment homeopathically. She went around telling everyone her juicing, fasting, etc. cured her, but it kept coming back until it took her in 2011. It was very hard to watch.
Rose- I agree with you about wishing we could all have a more patient-centric experience, vs. all the specialists we deal with and whom focus on our parts instead of our whole. I look to my PCP who I have been seeing since I moved here 19 years ago, but sometimes she gets left out of the loop with the specialists. I know she will be retiring at some point in the next few years (in her early 60s) and then will have to start over with someone new.
Waking up to snow this morning! For those in the NE, I hear you may be getting more too.
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blondie, hope you are on the mend. Prayers your way
Forgot what elsewas going to say....blahhhhhhhhh
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hey ladies. Wow y'all are busy talkers indeed. Do very hard to keep up. But I am caught up on everybody. Sorry no ind post today.
Today is the first day I feel alive again. Sweet ! Feeling hopeful :-)
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Thinking of you Peppermint! Make it a great day!
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