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  • hi gang, not sure what your discussing but back to my acne. No steroid other than one for main chemo infusions, they think maybe I am allergic to the aloe juice I was drinking for the sore mouth. Go figure. I stopped it about Wednesday, but acne has not cleared yet, so not sure if this is a correct diagnosis. I cannot take tamoxifen in the future due to previous blood clot history.

    Hair coming out, trying not to touch it, wearing scarf to bed to keep it in tack, still not prepared to go bald. Yikes, you would think a grown woman could handle this, but guess I am more vain than I thought . Went to a group BC meeting, learned what a mug ashcan was... Whew way too much to absorb since this whole thing began. Ok gang , going to get a descent nights sleep

  • specialk
    specialk Posts: 9,299

    The steroid you get for chemo is enough to cause acne. If the acne calms down right before the next infusion and then flares again right after, it could be the steroid or the chemo itself.

  • moonflwr912
    moonflwr912 Posts: 5,945

    Jerserygirl. I'm going to assume the mug ashtray is a MUGA scan.... LOL and sorry about the hair. It does come back mostly. Hugs. Most of us buzz the head because losing hair all the time sucks. It gets in your mouth and everywhere.

  • CassieCat
    CassieCat Posts: 863

    Jerseygirl, losing my hair was very hard for me to deal with. Vain? Who cares. It is difficult for some people, more difficult for others. Now, at 3 months after chemo, I have thick hair regrowing and some people have even said they like it at this very short length. I miss my very long hair, but it'll get there. I think I buzzed my hair to about half an inch a few days after my second infusion.

  • Hi Jersey Girl, I also had terrible acne after my second chemo. I was sent to the dermatologist and after consideration, she believed it was from Taxol. It was recommended that I use Domeboro solution soaked wash cloths on my head to alleviate the pain and was prescribed Minicycline for the acne. My MO then decreased my Taxol concentration for the next 4 chemos. The acne went away and I had a PCR at the end of chemo/surgery.



  • jersey girl - I also had acne during chemo from Herceptin/Perjeta - lots of tiny whiteheads that would just pop up out of nowhere. My chemo nurse prescribed clindamycin (sp?), a topical ointment. It did the trick, and I haven't had any since, even though I'm still getting the drugs

  • well the hair went today. Hubby buzzed it as it was coming out in clumps, so instead of dealing with the drain, pillow and clothes it went the way of the clippers. As for the acne, I don't think it the aloe juice, but the chemo, it's still with me and I gave up the juice Tuesday. I will ask the dr to see if taxol might be decreased, or an ointment prescribed. I go thurs for second chemo, and if it's still with me has to be chemo drugs in my humble opinion

  • fluffqueen01
    fluffqueen01 Posts: 1,801

    Blownaway-I started on tamoxifen as I was pre menopausal. The worst se was horrendous hot flashes in the day. I tried everything, including Effexor and none of them really worked well. Right at three years, I had a bad Pap smear with endometrial cells that shouldn't have been there. Not cancerous. Ob/gyn called my onc and I was switched to an AI immediately. Ob/gyn doesn't like tamoxifen, but my onc was fine.

    My old and new onc were leaning toward ten years. I asked the new one his thoughts about 3 years of Tamox and if that counts in the total. He said let's talk at five years, but he really felt like five years minimum on the AI.

    Moni-a lot of oncs, (both of mine included) don't feel the ca27.29 is accurate. I get them anyway, and the new onc says he will do them, but he says there are too many variable that cause changes. He went on to add that they have all this info coming in, especially new genetic tests, but even if it shows a mutation or something weird, they don't know what to do about it. He feels the next ten-fifteen years will bring extraordinary information and treatments.

    I get prolia shots. I asked the new onc when they decide you don't need them anymore if your density comes up. He said good question, lol. No real answer. He suggested a dexascan every years since mine wasn't very bad to check. He also said they have found that if density is going to drop, it does so for the first couple of years and then slows way down

  • For ladies post Herceptin - when you finish, do you feel better? Or do the AIs or Tamox keep you feeling the same way? I'm feeling so tired all the time. And achy. Since I'm on both, wasn't sure of the culprit. My MO swears there is not a cumulative feel bad component to Herceptin, but I'm feeling like there is. (Or maybe hoping so, so it will go away).

  • specialk
    specialk Posts: 9,299

    formydaughters - I did feel better once off Herceptin only - I started to have low grade headache and fatigue toward the end. I was already on Femara, but could still perceive an improvement in how I felt once the H was done. I felt so much better a couple of months after chemo ended that the Herceptin SE seemed minor, but I too felt there was a cumulative blah feeling the last few months of H. 

  • thank you Special K! You make me feel better!

    Mommato - I'm back to Tamox. Per SOFT, we added OS then switched to Femara. My MO just moved me back to Tamox. He hadn't perceived a big difference between arms 2 and 3 of SOFT (both having OS). On femara, I was more achy. Depression significantly increased. So did hot flashes. I wanted it to work and kind of felt like we should give it more time. But he said that SEs wouldn't improve in his experience. I wasn't able to get out of bed and just slept for 4 days at a time (nice relief from insomnia, but for major depressive episode) I couldn't even drive my daughter to school, so she was staying home into until my sister figured out what was going on and rescued us.

    Jersey girl - I got acne after chemo, when hair follicles and natural oils came back. I'm still battling it and it's much worse than when I was younger and in different new places. Strange stuff. My pre cancer Dior regimen no longer worked. I tried proactive, but even used 1/2 time, was too harsh. I'm now on Neocutis and loving it. It's from my PS office. The only thing I haven't yet seen results for is my bright red cheeks that appear late afternoon

  • Mommato3
    Mommato3 Posts: 468

    formydaughter, I'm glad to hear another MO say the same thing. She had spoke to two other MOs and they agreed with her. We all want our treatments to have minimal SE but sometimes it doesn't. Don't feel bad. You certainly don't want that depression! Tamoxifen has been around a long time and has a good track record

  • Chaga
    Chaga Posts: 1

    Good morning,

    I've been searching for other triple positive's and I'm happy and relieved to find the group. I've already completed my 8 weeks of AC chemo drugs. My blood count was way down waiting another week before I start 12 weeks of Taxol and Herceptin.

  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653

    Hi Chaga. We're all here

  • elainetherese
    elainetherese Posts: 1,640

    Hi Chaga!

    I took a break between AC and Taxol/Herceptin too! Hope your blood counts go up!

  • Mommato3
    Mommato3 Posts: 468

    Welcome chaga, the weekly Taxol was so much easier on methan the AC.

  • CassieCat
    CassieCat Posts: 863

    Welcome, Chaga!

  • sophie14
    sophie14 Posts: 15

    Hi Ladies ... I hope everyone is doing ok ... I finally (after a 5 week wait )had my 4th and last A/C treatment Tuesday and a Neulasta shot on Wednesday. My white blood count dropped to low and it took awhile to come back up for treatment. On March 31st I am suppose to start Taxol once a week for 12 weeks along with Herceptin and Perjecta. I think I am not looking forward to all the steroids. The hot flashes are already back, ( 60 years old ), the bone pain is rough, along with the fatigue and neurothopy in hands and feet. Gee, I can't wait for it to increase ... just kidding ...Is a MUGA scan better than an echocardiogram to check heart functions ? ... I had an echocardiogram before I started treatments. The PA said MUGA scan this time then changed it back to echocardiogram.

  • fluffqueen01
    fluffqueen01 Posts: 1,801

    Sophie...I had echos every three months during herceptin. Didnt have an muga, but my levels, while dropping, never dropped out of normal. I think a lot of docs consider a muga the gold standard.

  • GingerChi
    GingerChi Posts: 25

    Hello everyone....I'm new here and just wanted to say hello. The more I read, the more I realize there's lots to learn. I knew nothing about breast cancer before my DX. I had BMX 3 weeks ago, but have not met with a MO yet....I'm trying to get that set up this week. I'm stressed about treatment since I don't know what the MO will recommend. I have an appt with my BS tomorrow and should get my last 2 drains out....yay!!!

    Hugs to all!!!

  • specialk
    specialk Posts: 9,299

    Welcome ginger!  You will likely be offered AC-TH, which is Adriamycin/Cytoxan, then Taxol/Herceptin (maybe with P, which is Perjeta), or TCH, which is Taxotere/Carboplatin/Herceptin (maybe with P).  I am curious whether anyone ever mentioned doing neoadjuvent chemo so that Perjeta could be included since you had a 3cm mass.  Yay for getting drains out!  You will feel much better when that happens!

  • knmtwins
    knmtwins Posts: 438

    formydaughter - I'm on Herceptin and nothing else, will start Tami probably tomorrow. Last Chemo was Oct 29. My ears still ring, I still get some visual floaters (but reduced since chemo) my fingers, wrists, hips, knees and anckles are 'arthritic', I'm fatigued, but no where near as bad a 6 weeks after last chemo, still have some neuropathy in feet and toes.

  • knmtwins
    knmtwins Posts: 438

    Welcome Ginger and Changa.

  • hope that the acne clears, face is dry, trying almost everything to see if one or the other works....no luck so far, no more white heads but deep pimples that hurt below surface. Anything I should ask for? Open to suggestions. What is neocutis? Is it a script?

    Thanks all, going in thurs for second round of chemotherapy. Send prayers please.

  • TTfan
    TTfan Posts: 162

    Hi Jerseygirl - I had acne on face and scalp with Taxol and Clindamycin gel worked great. My MO Rx'ed it. Cleared it up within a few days.

  • GingerChi
    GingerChi Posts: 25

    Thanks for the welcomes!

    SpecialK...neoadjuvent treatment wasn't really discussed. I had needle biopsy on the 3cm mass on the right breast which came back IDC...then MRI showed DCIS in the right as well. MRI also showed several suspicious areas in the left which needed biopsy, but BS recommendation was BMX and I was in agreement. She said since I wasn't trying to save my breasts, it was up to me which I wanted first...surgery or chemo. I opted for surgery first. In hindsight, i wish I'd consulted a MO while making those decisions, but was I in the lala land of shock when I got my DX. Singing

  • specialk
    specialk Posts: 9,299

    ginger - hey, we've all been there! You were doing the best you could with what you knew.  Ask your MO if you can add Perjeta on adjuvently - there are people doing that and their insurance is cooperating.

  • fluffqueen01
    fluffqueen01 Posts: 1,801

    Anybody see the report on NBC tonight that 13% of DCIS goes undiscovered due to a bad reading....35 percent of atypia (i think) and 17% of dcis is overdiagnosed causing unneeded treatment?


    Encouraged everyone with a diagnosis, dense breasts to get a second opinion.

  • hope everyone is feeling well today!

    Neocutis is a Swiss skin care line. No Rx needed.

  • knmtwins
    knmtwins Posts: 438

    Took my first tomoxifen at dinner tonight. Glad there is something to help reduce reoccurrence, sad I'll be on some drug... oh the wows of this marathon we are all running...