INSOMNIACS place to talk in the wee hours
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Queen- every person who knows something about nutrition recommends protein for breakfast. Breakfast ramps up your metabolism and gets your body going. A heavy carb load for breakfast will set you up to be hungry all day. I have experimented with this and found it to be true. If I want to get some veggies into my breakfast, I will do an omelette, quiches, etc. I love scrambled eggs, a bit of cottage cheese and a bit of fruit for breakfast. Or yogurt too. Not sure I can eat salad for breakfast! Lunch and dinner is okay though!
Oh and protein is very important for healing. That I believe to be true and did high protein thorugh my surgery recovery. That might help you right now too.
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And the fat in those things will also help curb your hunger longer. I have the carbs and protein, toast and peanut butter lol.
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Jazzy: I'm totally on board with the 'get lots of protein' school. Two surgeries and six months of attempting to recover muscle mass after (mild!) atrophy means I'd already been looking for ways to include not just healthy proteins but ones that I would reliably eat. And cancer/cancer treatment thrown into the mix just makes that ever so much more important. But I've only realized in the last couple of months that a huge dollop of protein for breakfast helps me through the day. (For anyone else reading this, YMMV.)
How much? That depends on the person, I expect, but the general answer is "Almost certainly more than you're eating now." Caloric need, absent the stress of surgery? Activity level?
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Queen- you sound all over it with the protein! Glad to hear it!
Luvmygoats- I love peanut butter.
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My most favorite yogurt is Cabot Greek vanilla bean. In fact I just polished off a dish of it with some dark chocolate granola sprinkled in it. Well not entirely true - I love Brown Cow and Yo Baby full fat but geesh a girl has to watch her calories somewhere.
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Luvmygoat- funny you should mention Cabot yogurt. I discovered that brand recently and get the light ones as they have less calories and especially sugar. I love the peach lite yogurt myself. I agree Brown Cow and some of the other varieties of yogurt are super tasty, but way too caloric and sugary for this girl.
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I'm worn out chasing windmills for 6 hours. Brains fried. We need to do a PM shower(just made that up). One to Rosie and one to Tang Keep it simple "Come back". Rosie we know why. Tang pops in. It can be overwhelming when gone awhile to think how to post. We don't care, just come.
Loverly, never saw IV caffeine used just read about it. Thought when I read it when I was on the floor(unit). We could just hook ourselves up and be good for the day. Floor nurses coffee sucks. We drink any old coffee. The kind that turns gray when you put cream in it. Ugh.
Jazzy, I always thought that food pyramid was for another world not our. I gain weight on two slices of bread a day. Course, my wine and beer don't help. Jazzy, they think they know they don't. Plus, medicare requires them to talk about stuff now that was required before. If you weight is on the chart, and a BMI that indicates overweight-----in order to get paid they have to show notations that they talked about it.
Wren, I figure your DD has looked at the glycemic index if she went into such detail. What was her personal finding with that? I used it with DH, but it was good. His blood sugar control was better.
Then I started him on OMEGA3 . Not for glycemic control, but overall health thingy and maybe improve insulin resistance. Low and behold his blood sugar started down. He was on 70 units of insulin a day. We tittered down 2 units every so many days. Weeks and weeks--forget how long. I thought he had gotten his PCP's permission to do this. When he came home and told me his PCP said he could go off insulin(Based on serial HBA1c's) is when I found out he didn't have permission to titer down. I told him he had been given a window. He was morbidly obese. He didn't have to go back on insulin for 5 years. Window closed.
Mommy, If you ever see that doc again. Try this. Ask him which lettuce has the most nutritional value. Pin him down on Iceberg. If hesays it good or fine. Then you know he doesn't know anything and is just spouting the party line. Same thing with celery.
Patty, hugs sweetie, Air beds can cause more back pain rather then less.
Queenie, If you want to learn how to post pics and links. We put together a bunch of instructions on W&F's
Have a nice afternoon gals
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Now contemplating Greek yogurt.....sweet tooth awakening....
Sas: pictures of anything in particular? (not 100% disengenous here)
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Ah Queenie - I have an array of stuff to stir in. Trader Joe's has the best and softest berry blend I've ever had (Golden Berry Blend 8 oz). Not really cheap but then again within my budget for a small amount. Have a tiny pkg of M&Ms hidden out. Granola, fruit butters, trail mix. I figure if they sell already packaged for kids I can make it just the same. Did you ask about posting pictures? I'm the one that just again figured out how to post you tube's again.
Having a take it easy day. Nearly got a heatstroke out running around yest. retrieving DH's tire. Finishing school supply shopping for church backpack. Had a heck of a time finding 12 x 18" construction paper. Of course today is a bit better.
Sassy the only thing I figure iceberg lettuce is good for is BMs and some hydration.
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Goats: taking notes. Even yogurt would get old after a while, though there's more reason than protein to eat it.
Don't even get me started on iceberg lettuce. Celery does at least add a depth and complexity to soup stock. I still haven't been convinced that iceberg lettuce is even a food.
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Had to run an errand this afternoon to a little community up the road and on the way back, the wed farmers market was going on. Came away with some fresh squash, eggplant, lemon cucumbers, and string beans! YUM!
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Thinking about having a yogurt in the morning along with half an apple. Told hubby that I was thinking about getting a melon and cutting it up in chunks.
Sas, I'm thinking your right about this and that "quack" is just spouting party line.
I only have salads for dinner and lunch sometimes. I am thinking of making some popcorn a bit later if I get the munchies. Not one to load it down with butter and salt. Don't mind it being plain. I do eat trail mix or nuts when I have them, though I have to be in the mood for them.
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i like iceberg lettuce! Why is it bad? Tell me!
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Some of you might like this guy, but you have to admit, this is funny!
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Mema - not that iceburg is bad per se but there are much healthier varieties of lettuce. Deep green color usually equals more phytonutrients, the good stuff. Red/orange peppers are better than green ones. But I will admit only in the last 10 years (of almost 40) I have gotten DH to eat the "better" lettuces.
Hilarious picture of the Don Jazzy. Nice assortment of vegies from the market.
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Mema: I can't speak for the others, but I find it void of taste. But don't worry. For all I know, you feel it has an incomparably and exquisitely delicate flavor and aroma, and that's fine! No, really. Having been in on the Great Brussel Sprout Debate on another venue, I know there are a lot of foods that are more than slightly polarizing. Liver. Cilantro. Grapefruit Juice. And all of that boiled down to "People like different foods." The taste, the texture, and sometimes foods taste different to diffrent people.
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Iceberg lettuce has less nutrition value with vitamins and micronutrients. I never buy it in the grocery store, I try to buy romaine, red lettuce, spinach, and kale. I know it is very high in water and that is good, but I prefer other greens.
Look what I found!
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Jazzy, you are so bad!! Haha.
Mema, iceberg lettuce is just cellulose and water. Just as Goats mentioned earlier, it has little nutritional value and only offers a boost in fibers in your diet. It does make fast food hamburgers look a little healthier.
Mommy, you want to come over to my place too. You will get plenty of exercise cleaning our wooden floors both upstairs and downstairs. I can't seem to do them in one day anymore. Every time I clean the house, the thought of downsizing is very appealing. Tried Greek yogurt on apple last week for the first time and thought to myself why didn't I think of the combo sooner.
Marlannnnna...where arrrrrre you? You ok? Called me a fib, then you disappear.
Frey& Susan, hope you are ok also.
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Jazzy, just saw your post above mine. Nice diagram.
Queenie- pate, cilantro, and grapefruit are all good.
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Lover: you can have my pate, but I'll take my share of the cilantro and grapefruit. Anyone up for taking my oysters?
I didn't really want to touch the nutrition density question, not least because I don't know enough about it. And in fairness to the iceberg lettuce lovers (you can have my share of that!), nutrition density might not be of paramount concern if the diner's in otherwise good health and is eating a decent diet.
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Oysters are disgusting. I love everything in salads but cilantro. That picture of corn silk and Donald hilarious. Had a wonderful time with DD1, DD2 and DD3! I am now bursting with fluid and can't wait to get tapped tomorow. Yay... just jam a straw in my gut and leave it - let it drain. Ibrance showed up today and right next to it a big bag of fresh picked greenbeans.. It made me laugh. I thought well did FedX supply dietary supplements for taking Ibrance with food? Turns out some friends left the green beans on the doorstep.. very sweet. Finally after asking for months and months Ibrance shows up. So we will see what happens. At this stage of the game probably nothing. Too little... too late.
Right now I need someone in the US Forest Service to release our cabin so the sale can go through. We have called 8 times, begged and heard nothing. It's like being held hostage. In the 8 years we have owned the place we never get a response from the district rep about anything- NEVER.. so if this sale falls through I will scream. Who needs this?? Enough already.
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Oh my goodness!! I will eat both of your portions of oysters. You gals are missing out on the delicacy. I love them, especially the blue oysters. All you need is a squeeze of lime, hot peppers and a small glass of cold beer( preferably Heineken or Corona). My mouth is watery just thinking about it.
Jazzy, question...I bought some wild spinach for the first time a few days ago. Is it supposed to be powdery? The farmer claimed he doesn't use any pesticides on any of his vegetables. I can see some aphids/bugs on them so I am sure it's organic. We might have extra protein in our veggie dish tonight. Didn't expect wild spinach to look like weed. Ha
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Loveroflife- so wild spinach is actually not really a spinach, but an edible green that is also a weed. I can have a dusty look to it. After I bought mine, I read about it so I understood more about it. The people that sold it to me said it is good with red meats, I made mine with eggs (quiche a few pages a go). Here is a link for you that talks a bit more about it. It is tasty stuff. No one there selling it today, or I would have bought more! It is nutrient dense and we like that!
http://www.ediblewildfood.com/lambs-quarters.aspx?...
Rose- I am glad you enjoyed the photo of Donald and the corn on the cob. It has had me laughing all day! Good to hear you had some good time with your DD's. The Ibrance along side the wild green beans. I know it is not easy to think anything may help at this point, but worth trying, yes? I hope you can get some of the fluid removed so you are more comfortable again.
Will someone cook those beans for you? I love to steam my beans and then marinate them in salad dressing for a green bean salad in the summer time.
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Thanks Jazzy! It came out pretty good. I sautéed it with olive oil, garlic, and chili paste we smuggled in from Singapore(shhhh). Lambs quarter...interesting name. I'm serving it with pan-fried yellowtail snapper.
Rose, I don't have any connection with US Forrest Service or I will make the phone call for you. Buying and selling is such a stressful process-hubby is in the real estate business. We go through it every few years. Told my husband I just want a simple life, but the man is driven with a type A personality.
Why can't they invent something similar to the JP drain? If I remember correctly, traffic is really bad between your home and the hospital? Hope the drive tomorrow is not too stressful for you
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Iceberg has no nutritional value. Maybe that was started by the Romaine folks. Come to think of it, that came out just as Romaine started to get big. Is this a conspiracy?
Why is it that no one has been able to convince the Donald that his hair is stupid?
Tang said she'd come back!
Rosie's back and she's gonna get a hUg dow dowa and your daddy's home or something.
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Iceberg has no nutritional value. Maybe that was started by the Romaine folks. Come to think of it, that came out just as Romaine started to get big. Is this a conspiracy?
Why is it that no one has been able to convince the Donald that his hair is stupid?
Tang said she'd come back!
Rosie's back and she's gonna get a hUg dow dowa and your daddy's home or something.
I hate blue lines, my finger strayed, but I saved it HAH by a back and a C&P. I'm getting as good as chevy
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Lover/Rose: great. sorting out who sits to whom. (Not that I've had experience with sorting out seating plans at family Thanksgiving dinners according to food preferences and imminence of divorce proceedings.) And taking notes on possible tempting foods.
Some sources of protein I don't wanna know about any more than I want to know how much cat spit I've ingested by drinking from the wrong glass on the bedside table.
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EWWWWWWW.....I just had dinner!
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Had a blue line this morning too. Fingers betrayed me. Sympathetic/parasympathetic dysfunction.That is what I get for laughing at those cute Fainting Goats. Still feeling guilty.
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Sassy- why does Donald get it yet about his hair? Men never think they are unattractive, EVER! I am sure the wife du jour tells him he looks awesome too.
I found a group photo of the fam and everyone else has decent hair, what is his problem? He certainly can afford a good stylist?
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