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  • cowgirl13
    cowgirl13 Posts: 817

    When I had my first herceptin (alone--after chemo ended) they tried a 30 minute drip. Didn't feel quite right and the next time it was run for an hour. Looking back, I should have had the 90 minute drip as I think Special K did. Had I done this, I don't think I would have been as tired. So my take-away would be to have them run at least an hour drip the first time. Don't worry if the nurse looks at you funny...just be sure you get the 1 hr.

  • I had issues with the Taxen and ended up cutting the last two back, but now that ight k about it I have had this since starting herceptin. So I'm going to try having a slower drip next week. Thank all for the help.

  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653

    husban1234 you are not the first husband to post here. You wife must tell her oncologist. They will either reduce her dose or choose a different chemo. One of my friends was allergic to Taxotere. She was given a different chemo. She's doing fine too.

  • TizzyLish
    TizzyLish Posts: 4

    Posting this here too since ya'll are mostly dealing with the same regimen as I am ...

    Question! I had my second round of TCHP yesterday. Last time I didn't start feeling queasy until Friday. I feel okay so far today but I'm wondering if you can take Zofran BEFORE you start feeling sick, to stave it off? I was only told to take it "at the first sign of nausea." Thoughts?Experiences?

    Thanks!

    T

  • Stephmoen
    Stephmoen Posts: 184

    tizzylish I was told to take zofran before you feel sick by my chemo nurses I take zofran for the first 3 days around the clock to keep me from feeling sick works good..I had reactions to taxotere just an itchy throat Ithas to be run slower and I have several drugs added to my regimen to help me through I wiill finish up August 6 can't wait to be done

  • TizzyLish
    TizzyLish Posts: 4

    Cool! Thank you.Sounds worth a try.

    And hooray for you -- August 6 is just around the corner! You are at the finish line!

  • Stephmoen
    Stephmoen Posts: 184

    thank you originally it was July 30 but due to my port becoming infected and me becoming septic a couple weeks ago they pushed it back it's been a real pain I now have a picc line and give myself infusions of antibiotics every 8 hrs for 4 weeks I feel like I have been through enough these last 3 months hopefully surgery goes smoothly!

  • MMay
    MMay Posts: 25

    TizzyLish my oncologist gave me a script for both Zofran and the phen gel. He told me to take my first Zofran as soon as I left my treatment and then alternate that with the gel every three hours. Zofran then three hours later phen gel then three hours later Zofran etc... I did this for 2 days then stopped the gel but kept the Zofran every 6 hours until day 5 then I decided to try and skip it. I have been ok. I was nauseous even with the meds and had such a hard time eating day 3 through 5 but I did not get sick.

  • husband do have her talk to her MO a sap. I wanted to quit first day and almost did, mostly cause hubby was pushing me to go walk or get up and stop laying there. The dr told hubby to back off, she is being poisoned to kill the cancer, her body will fight it, push fluids so she can hydrate and do what dr says...it got a bit better each time but for about 4-8 of those days she will just not have the energy to function, it does come back slowly, so do as they tell you, hydrate her, and let her just rest... I finished my chemo in May and already past the bad stuff. Tell her to hang in.

  • momwriter
    momwriter Posts: 277

    Hi TizzyLish and others-

    I just wanted to mention that I took ginger capsules to help with nausea throughout chemo. I took them before my tx and after for about 3 days. It greatly helped with my nausea with the AC tx and I barely had to take zofran or any other anti nausea drug. (During AC treatment I did get IV emend while at infusion, but not during Taxol alone.) Of course how nauseous you feel depends on your unique constitution (just like in pregnancy) but I found and still find ginger to be extremely effective with nausea and it has no other side effects (for me, zofran etc were constipating which is mostly why I didn't like them).

    Hugs to all and remember- it's a marathon, not a sprint. You will make it through! I did, my hair is normal again, and I feel great!






  • Kb0041
    Kb0041 Posts: 2

    I just want to share my experience. I was initially diagnosed triple+ from the biopsy. I had a bilateral mastectomy. I then asked to have the oncotype test done to confirm what my chance of reoccurrence was. I know that they do not usually do the oncotype test if you are HER2+. That test came back that I was not HER2+. I had this check again with another lab to verify this information. It also can back HER2-. Please be aware of medical misdiagnosis. It happens! This has changed my entire treatment plan and I am now wondering if the surgery was excessive. Looking for a malpractice attorney now.

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Posts: 2,700

    Please please please you guys! My friend who passed several years back, from st 4 lung cancer, had been on a clinical trial. it worked, the docs were amazed, she lived 10 more years. She never let me go with her, except for follow up, which she did not do for as ong as they wanted her to. They had to stop that clinical trial, because of its extreme toxicity. I asked to read her med papers, no, but she saved them for me. That clinical trial was an extreme amount of Carboplatin, and she suffered intensly from neuropathy for the rest of her life. please please please ice during T and C. No ice necessary for H!!!

  • susanhg123
    susanhg123 Posts: 257

    Am posting here because so many of you have followed my dealings with ex-husband from #$^%@%!# and his own version of bat-shit crazy. So, as aware, divorce is final but property settlement continues. And continues. And continues.

    Today was One. Of. Those. Days. Rushed from a facility where I am contracting to do psych education to the university for a graduation ceremony. Still rushing opened my car door and my phone fell less than 12" to the ground. With a heavy duty shock-guard case. And shattered the face plate and the underneath of the phone. After the ceremony rush to A.T. & T to do something, anything. @*%^&^(@)@ is supposed to cover my cell because he wanted to keep me on some tax deal as "medical consultant". I agreed to that as long as I did not have to talk to him or see him. He can lie on his taxes all he wants (remember-he is a fake CPA). So into A.T.&T. Guess what. He took my name off the account. Thus, I cannot keep my long time cell number. The only way I could keep it is to contact him and have him call A.T.&T and give permission! Can you spell not in this lifetime or the next! What a crock. I did learn that unless I notify him I have opened a separate account he will continue to be billed and will have a payment due monthly. Hmmm. Lets vote shall we? While there the sales rep talked me into the promo-a baby iPad for a very reduced rate. I will park it next to my grown-up iPad and they can look like a single parent and a child. I was tired and hungry and frustrated. She probably could have sold me a snake by that time.

    Ports. Being deported-love the term. I had my port removed after almost 20 months. It was getting sluggish and I never intended to need it again. Fast forward a year. Second port inserted due to the need for IV iron. I cannot have IVs in either arm-23 nodes removed in 1 pit and 8 or 18 removed in the other. Next option is my foot. As a nurse I knew I was not going to have IV iron weekly in my foot. I will keep my port forever. My oncologist, general surgeon, and chemo nurses have all said--do not remove. Had it flushed today. Have labs next week and the week after and one of my chemo nurses will use my port for lab draws.

    The new folk with nausea. I took some magic tablet-which i have forgotten the name starting before chemo. High priced-like almost $500 for 4 tabs but my pharmacist found coupons for $50. I also used Zofran until I devleoped the rare and unusual Zofran "it is probably brain mets" headache. Then added compazine, some steroids. Always left with my port accessed so I could do fluids that night at home and at work the next couple days.

    I am having insomnia. Thank you Femara.

    Much love.

  • elainetherese
    elainetherese Posts: 1,640

    SusanHG, I'm awake enough to read (and appreciate) your post. Thanks, Aromasin. Best of luck, getting through the property settlement phase while retaining your sanity. Never giving up my port either.

  • tonlee
    tonlee Posts: 1,590

    Sorry was here and then gone...I get so busy.

    So the pain in my back was an 8mm Herniation of the L4-L5 disc, and pressed on the sciatic nerve (rt) side. The pain was worse than anything I've ever felt in my life.

    So, I had spinal surgery 3 weeks ago. I can't work out like I'm used to doing, but can walk 5-7 miles every day. I was standing for 10 hours a day the day after surgery and since (sitting still is kinda sucky).

    I will probably never do heavy weights again, but I'm good with that...I was doing really really well with body weight exercises ...

    Does this have anything to do with BC? I dunno. But I feel SO MUCH better after surgery that I can't be anything but totally thankful I had it :)



  • fluffqueen01
    fluffqueen01 Posts: 1,801

    Tonlee so glad to hear you are doing better. Do you ever look back and see just how much your post has made a difference to everyone?


    Mmay- you will note that a few people mentioned the length of time Herceptin is given by itself. My first 2 infusions of herceptin alone were over 30 minutes. I finally told my ONC one day that I wasn't sure what was wrong but I felt worse on just herceptin than when I had taxol/herceptin mix. He changed to a 90 minute infusion and it made a world of difference. So just monitor how yo feel

  • specialk
    specialk Posts: 9,299

    tonlee - good to see you, sorry about the surgery but glad it worked and you're feeling better

  • MMay
    MMay Posts: 25

    My herceptin was given over an hour and I have seemed to be ok. Headaches have been tough at night (not sure if that is the herceptin or myhormones going wacky) but other than that ok compared to the days after my first TCH ugh! I ended up getting platelets the same day and wonder if that is going to be a regular thing because I am on a blood thinner and have been for a number of years because of factor v Leiden and DVTs way prior to breast cancer so my platelets are always funky. Next TCH will be coming up soon August 13 I'm a bit more prepared this time with how awful I will feel but now I also know that I will feel better in between thanks to your support and the experience. Here's to the good days! Thanks again everyone!

  • suladog
    suladog Posts: 837

    MMay,

    TTfan on these boards who has almost the same tumor profile as I do, suggested having them do the herceptin over 90 minutes which is what I asked for and what they do. At first my MO was puzzled why I just wouldn't want to get out of there in 30 but I insisted on 90 and have had no ill effects. You might try 90 minutes if they agree to let you have the chair time.

  • rosesrx
    rosesrx Posts: 264

    I have had them slow it down a couple of times. It felt like my heart was racing. Just ask, it cannot hurt.

  • MMay
    MMay Posts: 25

    I will definately ask my mo about the 90 minutes. I did ask about getting fluids after my TCH infusions and the nurse navigator told me they don't do scheduled fluid infusions. They want your body to do the work it needs to or something along that line. My mo is not to warm and fuzzy either. Last time I was in I was a crying mess and he was not liking that much. Basically snapped at me and said that he knew I was frustrated but these are the cards I was dealt and suggested something for mood. I wanted to ask for me or for him. I think I'm entitled to a bad day. Anyway thanks Suladog and TTfan I am going to ask about the longer herceptin time

  • debiann
    debiann Posts: 447

    MMay, sorry they won't schedule fluids for you they are so helpful. I felt crummy after round one and two. My MO's nurse tried to get me to go back in for fluids, but I said, "I'll just drink more". Round three I ended up in the ER. After that fluids were always scheduled. 

    Maybe they don't want to scheduleI fluids ahead of time, but don't let that deter you for asking for them if you feel weak after future infusions.


  • MMay
    MMay Posts: 25

    Thanks debiann your kindness and support is so helpful!

  • tonlee
    tonlee Posts: 1,590

    Fluff, no I wasn't able to read the comments. Was it helpful? :)

    Also, the Herceptin timing. I truly believe them giving it to me in 20-25 minute infusions is what damaged my heart beyond repair. It has never fully recovered.

  • debiann
    debiann Posts: 447

    Your welcome MMay. Wishing you few se's in your future rounds.

  • zjrosenthal
    zjrosenthal Posts: 1,541

    I am having herceptin / perjeta tomorrow. 5 left. Since my heart function has decreased I intend to ask if a slower infusion might be helpful. Love, Jean

  • Gretagirl
    Gretagirl Posts: 129

    Good morning everyone. Hope y'all had a good weekend. Hubby and I rode the 4 wheeler to river yesterday after church. We had a good time. I bought a bicycle over the weekend and rode it for one mile and have discovered new muscles! Oh my how out of shape I am but it's fun! After reading the posts, I will be asking at my Hereceptin infusion Wednesday, that they keep my infusion time to at least 90 minutes. Last time it was for one hour. I noticed I had mild headaches for a day or two. Thanks to everyone sharing and advice given! I am learning so much and it's so helpful!! Have a great day

  • linda505
    linda505 Posts: 395

    Howdy all, I started having dull headaches about the middle of May. They are daily and not debilitating but none the less bothersome. I went away for the 4th of July weekend and forgot my arimidex and the headaches were gone for three days. Back the day after I started back up on the ESD. So I decided it was a SE. Saw my MO for my 3 month appt today and he wants me to stop taking arimidex to see if they go away - wants me to give it two to three weeks to make sure. If I still have headaches - even if they are different - I will have to have a brain scan. If they go away, he will try a different AI - most likely femara. He thinks SE also - but wants to make sure since HER2 likes to go to the brain - UGHHH - does this stuff every stop?

  • specialk
    specialk Posts: 9,299

    linda505 - sorry about the headaches, I tend to get them too but I was a headachy person prior to breast cancer. I have been on both Femara and Arimidex and not noticed a difference but hope that the switch works for you.

  • linda505
    linda505 Posts: 395

    thanks SpecialK - I really just wanted him to say I am sure it is just a SE so let's switch. But NO he had to say "brain scan" and that is when the anxiety started. ALTHOUGH - I do appreciate that he wants to be certain - he is a very good doctor and I am lucky to have him in my corner.

    How are you doing? Are you ready for some football? How are you doing with all this rain? I am building an ark if you need me to come pick you up. :)