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  • edwsmom
    edwsmom Posts: 270

    thank you. I did have to get lomotil. I love the idea of getting the extra fluid when I go back for my neulasta shot on Saturdays. Great tip!

  • rosesrx
    rosesrx Posts: 264

    My worst days were 4-7 and I scheduled off work due to fatigue and pain from Neulasta. Like others flying high from steroids and if I was scheduled to work weekends after my infusion on Wednesday I would extend my taper by a day or two. C was my issue caused by the Zofran so I took colace and magnesium citrate starting the day prior thru day 3. (chemo day is day zero)

  • Have to jump in regarding the Planned Parenthood discussions. Federal funds do NOT go to funding abortions. Do NOT. The word "abortion" is the medical term used for a pregnancy loss regardless of the cause-personal choice for termination, "miscarriage", medical reasons.

    As a nurse who has worked women's health I not just wanted but needed a source for medically provided abortions. I am old enough to remember coat hangers, soda bottles, caustic agents.

    Please ladies, remember why we are part of this group. We have all experienced loss and made decisions based on what was best for us under very adverse conditions.

    Thank you.

  • debiann
    debiann Posts: 447

    Yes, the term abortion is used for a miscarriage too. I learned that when I miscarried with my first pregnancy. I also learned that some people in the medical field should be more sensitive and know what they are taking about before opening their mouths.

    It started with an ultrasound where the female Asian doctor announced, "oh, baby dead." Yep, just blurt it right out like that.

    I needed a D&C. The woman at the hospital registration desk saw the word abortion on my file and snarled, "Why don't you want this baby." I broke out in tears crying "because they told me its dead."

    I guess we all have our own  list of stupid or hurtful things people have said to us. Those two have topped my list for the last 31 years.


  • zjrosenthal
    zjrosenthal Posts: 1,541

    Please ladies stick to the topic...we are dealing with enough here. Abortion discussions are very traumatic for some of us. Praying for peace. Love, Jean

  • This weeks issue of Time magazine arrived today. Interesting article-the cover actually-about breast cancer.

    I want our group back. I don't post as often but I read every few days. I miss you guys.

  • I'll have to look for that article, SusanHG123. By the way, I visited with my OB-GYN last week and asked about an ooph. He wasn't that enthusiastic about giving me an ooph. He said that women who kept their ovaries tended to live longer than women who didn't. I made some mild complaints about the inconvenience of getting monthly Zoladex shots in order to take an AI. He said that on average, women go through menopause at age 51. Since I'm 48, he suggested taking the Zoladex until 50 and then get tested to see whether or not I was menopausal. If so, I could just discontinue the Zoladex. OK. Well, OB-GYN is getting ready to retire. He said, "I've got bad news and good news for you. The bad news is that I'm retiring at the end of this year. The good news is that I've got a cute, young partner who you will be assigned to." OK. I'll ask the "cute, young partner" about an ooph next year. Getting Zoladex isn't THAT inconvenient.

  • ElaineTherese.

    Ha! I would strongly recommend continuing at least until you meet "cute young partner"! I am older than dirt and I want to plan a trip with ladies on this thread to someplace with hot and cold running maid service AND cabana boys. Old. Not dead.

  • ang7894
    ang7894 Posts: 427

    yes nice to see the group talking again ! I don't post often but read all the time.

    Winking love this group...


  • musosgirl
    musosgirl Posts: 305
    I haven't talked with my OBGYN yet, but my BS is not keen on me removing my uterus and/or ovaries. I am a long ways out from menopause though, and she says to focus on the cancer I have and not to worry about a cancer I may get. She is not willing to do two surgeries in one when I have my lumpectomy so I guess there is no rush in deciding or even talking to my OBGYN. Then again he is getting up there in age and he hasn't mentioned a "cute young partner" taking good care of me.

    Is Tamoxifen the only option for pre-menopausal? Other than a hysterectomy? Talked with my PP today about needing to switch off Paxil in the next year--this is tricky territory in my case. Really need to explore all my options--granted, switching a med is a lot less invasive than surgery, but I will do anything to protect my mental health.
  • specialk
    specialk Posts: 9,299

    musosgirl - you also have the option from the SOFT trial of ovarian suppression which would allow you to take an aromatase inhibitor instead of tamoxifen. This is thought to be more beneficial for those who are younger, and not perimenopausal. This option might allow you to stay on Paxil if you are doing well on it and don't want to have to come off - which I believe you would if you took Tamoxifen. Here is the trial info:

    http://www.ascopost.com/ViewNews.aspx?nid=20664

  • Tresjoli2
    Tresjoli2 Posts: 579

    So I went to see my OB/GYN to discuss an ooph. He told me absolutely not, no way. My MO said the same thing. they said that my ovaries provide a lot of other benefits, and that I was far too young to have them out. Sooooooooo current plan is ovarian suppression for at least the next two years and take it from there.

    I don't know who was asking about Herceptin only - there are a couple of the people on the board on Herceptin only. They are rare though, but some MO's will ok it. For what it's worth - I had only 1.5mm of IDC. I went for the Taxol/Herceptin combo. I was too young, and her2 was too scary - for me, I wanted the protection even if it was overkill.

  • zjrosenthal
    zjrosenthal Posts: 1,541

    Well I was switched from femara to aromasin (sp) to see if it will help with the joint and muscle pain and cramping. Only on it 5 days so we'll see. Love, Jean

  • musosgirl
    musosgirl Posts: 305
    SpecialK, thank you for the info! I will ask my MO this week what he was thinking. None of the options sound particularly appealing. Just another benefit of joining the club no one wants to be a part of!
  • musosgirl
    musosgirl Posts: 305
    Tresjoli2, my SIL is a nurse and she was dead set against an ooph for the same reason you mentioned. Only my MO has acted like it is an option. With my BS against it (and my GYN was the one insistent I see her) I highly doubt he will be for an ooph--he is pretty conservative--and if he has to treat aggressively he is rather anal about it--when he had to put me on a PICC line he kept me in the hospital and saw me everyday, he would not let me go home on home healthcare.

    But I am way ahead myself again. I need to focus on the next 9 weeks of chemo. Then surgery. Then radiation. THEN hormonal suppression and trying to keep my beloved Paxil.
  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653

    zjrosenthal I'm doing much better on Exemestane (Aromasin) than Anastrozole (Arimidex). Been on it almost 1.5 year now after 3 years on Anastrozole.

  • honeybair
    honeybair Posts: 234

    Have not been posting for a long time, but find myself needing help. This week five of my fingernails have become loose, just like they did while being on Taxol. My chemo was in 2013. Has anyone else experienced this besides me?

  • ashla
    ashla Posts: 1,566

    Cause for much optimism for all of us. Lots of promising research on the her2 Pos front :)

    The latest..

    ..http://medicalxpress.com/news/2015-10-two-hit-ther...

  • Kthielen
    Kthielen Posts: 176

    honey bair,

    I am not as far out as you but all of my nails lifted during chemo and then 10 months after my chemo was done they all lifted again:/

    Crazy, not sure why??


  • Stephmoen
    Stephmoen Posts: 184

    I have been going back and forth on what to do for hormone therapy I am 30 but after reading that soft trial again I definitely think I'm going for oopherectomy I would rather deal with complications from ovary removal than cancer again I can't go through this agai

  • robinlk
    robinlk Posts: 363

    I had my ooph on Monday, healing well. I have to say that all my joint and bone pain is gone. My plantar fasciitis has also disappeared. I am puzzled, but feeling that my body really was fighting the tamoxifen. I am still taking the tamoxifen, but the SEs have disappeared in the past two days. Maybe the surgery ache is just drawing my attention away from other aches and pains, but I really don't think that is the case. Has anyone else experienced this? My thought process even feels clearer. How weird...

  • Hi all,

    I am writing on behalf of my mother. She was diagnosed with extensive DCIS in July and just had a mastectomy two Fridays ago. Path reports showed there was a small amount of IDC (<1cm) and also micro metastases to 2/3 sentinel lymph nodes that were removed during surgery (.22mm). She is triple positive and is entering a clinical trial (ATEMPT) at Dana Farber next week. We are still unclear whether she will need radiation. Anyone have a similar diagnosis? Her surgeon said she is cancer free and this is only to prevent recurrences but I don't see how that is possible. What if there are more cancer cells in axillary lymph nodes or that have spread to other parts of her body? This is all so new to us. Any opinions would be much appreciated! Thanks!

  • geewhiz
    geewhiz Posts: 671

    Ashla, my friend in Germany was treated with interferon-gamma for bc. It made her quite sick, but she is still here many years later! I wish I had known about it when I had treatment. It seems they need to be done consecutively and in a timely manner....not 5 years later : )

  • Kira sorry you are here for your mother, the chemo is the tried and true for BC now that she has had surgery, I have triple positive and for now they can at least fight this scourge .All the major research hospitals are trying to eliminate this disease so they will treat it aggressively, unless you mom is to weak, hopefully she will be cancer free soon.

  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653

    Kira9383 your mom is being treated at one of the top 4 cancer treatment centers in the country. linky If you are concerned go get a 2nd opinion with someone at Mass General (in the top 8).

    There are no easy answers. Medical science is not exact but they don't want to over treat your mom either. All treatments and meds have side effects, even aspirin. DCIS can be tricky though. Beesie is seems to be very knowledgeable about DCIS. Try to contact her.


    also check this out: linky

  • KateB79
    KateB79 Posts: 555

    Quick question: do the chemopause hot flashes dissipate after chemo is over, or do I need to learn to live with them for the 10 years on Tamoxifen, too? Figured I'd ask the experts. :)

    I'm halfway done with chemo, and trying not to entertain dark thoughts about statistics and mets and whatnot. It's just hard for me to get my head around the idea that there's a possibility that clean nodes doesn't necessarily improve DFS stats. My fingers (and toes) are crossed that 1) Herceptin/Perjeta is the wonder combo it's touted to be, and 2) that today's echo shows good LVF and I can keep getting HP.

    lago, I find myself returning to your two "speeches," so I thank you again for posting them.

    During my last infusion, I had a weird reaction to the Carboplatin (my stomach started to feel like it was eating itself). My doc--who is wonderful--put me on Protonix, but I'm seriously considering asking her to reduce or drop the Carbo. From what I've read, it's the taxane that's most important--is that correct?

    In the interest of my own education, I've been watching the Ken Burns/PBS Cancer: The Emperor of All Maladies. It's fascinating and well worth watching, if you're so inclined.


  • ashla
    ashla Posts: 1,566

    Geewhiz

    I read as most as possible regarding Breast cancer ( most of it way beyond my comprehension) but this is the first I've read about this interferon direction. I remember that interferon was used in Hep C treatment and had serious side effects but that was long ago.

    Much of the progress being made in Breast cancer treatment is in the her2 pos arena. Piggybacking on the Herceptin dicovery. In addition to lowering treatment toxicity and duration, My great hope is that this will be a breakthrough in metastatic disease treatment

  • specialk
    specialk Posts: 9,299

    Kira - for most of us surgery removes the cancer, and systemic treatment is an insurance/mop-up situation. She will receive appropriate treatment with either arm of the ATEMPT trial, but you always have the choice of opting for Taxol/Herceptin and withdrawing from the trial if you have concerns. There are a couple of threads here that have ladies who had that combination for small Her2+ tumors. If you put Taxol Herceptin in the search box they should come up. It is possible that since your mom had micromets in the axillary nodes that radiation may be recommended if there is not a recommendation for further axillary clearance surgery. It would be worth a consult with a radiation oncologist. Good luck!

    Kate - maybe your MO could do a dose reduction on your Carboplatin? Since the FDA approval for Perjeta is for use with both T and C I think it matters, just not sure how much. Def a query for your MO. Did you feel this just during infusion, or did it continue

  • Gretagirl
    Gretagirl Posts: 129

    Tresjoii2 I asked about using herceptin only. I saw only one trial of it at Baylor. I have 2 TCH treatments left but was curious. I spoke to radiologist and will do radiation after chemo then on to tamoxifen or something in that ares foe my ER PR diagnosis. Will have a echo Monday and if all is well will continue Hereceptin. Amazing how something so small can cause so much havoc!

  • KateB79
    KateB79 Posts: 555

    SpecialK, I had a lot of stomach (and intestinal) problems with rounds one and two. Third time around, I had the reaction in the chair, and then it waned a bit. I've been taking the Protonix, and I think it's helping. . . . I'll ask her to consider reducing the dose. I'd just as soon not get the Carbo at all (I've also got some mild anemia going on), but I definitely want to stay on the Perjeta for the full six rounds. I'll check back in to report what she says.

    She told me rounds 4-6 are easier other than the fatigue (maybe because I know what to expect), and I'm going with that. Three was definitely the least horrible so far. :)