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Susan, I am sure you will bring that up to your MO.... I hope.
There is another way to get quinine--eat bitter melon. It's BITTER. I love it, but family gives it a thumb down. It's an acquired taste.
Two varieties..


This is even more bitter than the top one. The leaves can be used for hives or itching. You crush the leaves and apply it directly to the itchy rash. Amazing how people figured that out.
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Rose, that is very puzzling with the fluctuation in the liver enzymes. Have you heard of RILD? Just hope it was a fluke and that you will continue to feel better.
Ms. CHEVY, have a blast with Ms. Theresa. You have to share with us your visit. The online album is pretty neat. There are so many options you can choose to personalize it.Have not done it myself, but have seen it from a friend and niece.
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Thanks gals! LilPaws! WHERE have you BEEN? And how is ms. Annie? Or am I getting you confused with someone else? And I don't know anything about liver anythings... just good to see you again...
And yes Cubbie... Some of you DID tell me about the UTI connection, and even though I didn't get it, you knew what you were talking about. I'm going to take her picture today, if she will let me...
She was getting her hair done yesterday, so there is no excuse...Yes Loverly... My Daughter is so enthused about this "album" thing... She works on it HERE, on MY computer, because of the large monitor... Yesterday she flew out of the chair with a leg cramp, and then her trigger-finger is driving her nuts... but she is relentless! I just sit there and crochet, and enjoy her being here....
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in this mornings paper
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Meanwhile in NM, 25 degrees this morning!
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I see Bumex used frequently at my hospital. Not as much as Lasix, but often. Lasix is still the first line diuretic. It's been around longer and I'm sure it's cheaper than Bumex.
And I remember when the doctors prescriber quinine for leg cramps. 325mg. And there was a lower strength one with Vitamin E that you could buy over the counter. Q-vel? I think was the name. Can't get that anymore. I had people tell me that it helped, despite what the studies "prove".
Never tried bitter melon. Looks interesting.
Chevy: so happy to see that your friend Theresa is back to her old self!! YAY!!!
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http://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2007/01/22/fda-bans-quinin-1/ Here's an article on the banning of quinine. I remember when that happened,, had forgotten the year. 2007,,, wow,, it's been a while.
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Jazzy: Don't even think about sending that back.
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Hi, Glennie and Loverly. thanks for the info.
Loverly, just checking in before bedtime

Anyone ever hear of a fried brain/skull/ scalp? Something very weird happened after the MRI. My head hurts. Eyes tearing strange. Seeing PCP.
Jazzy yikes 25*, always thought of NM as dessert country. Guess I never paid attention. Fireplace?
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Morning ladies!
So happy for you and Theresa, Chevy!!
Have a good day ladies
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sas, that's weird after MRI. Did you have contrast? Good you are seeing PCP
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Aww Sassy. Hope it gets better.
Glad you all dodged the storms.
Great lunch pix. I love Mexican food but not flan.
No bitter melons around here to try. MO recommended tonic water for my cramps last year. Ugh.
I'm so sorry paws about ins. I'm confused too. Do you have liver mets?
Chevy. Have a great time. Yes UTIs are sneaky. Can't talk nurse or hair. Just Irish tea:)
Smarty. Love the black and white. Very unusual for Christmas. Very elegant. Can't wait to see finished product.
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DH had f/u with PCP on labs. All good, some improved! EXCEPT his psa is up. He had 35 rads for prostate about 8 years ago. PCP says not to worry, he has a shot for that, will be every 6 months. Only SE is hot flashes. DH was less than thrilled, I'm like, welcome to my world.
Asked him what it is, of course he doesn't know. This sounds like a chemo. Any guesses
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Tonic water goes good in Mojitos, like it better than club soda there. But I can't even remember the last one I had.
Sassy - deserts are bone dry. Heat up fast, cool off fast. Besides I think Jazzy being in Albuquerque is high elevation. Turns out the "roof" ripped off was the decorative facade. Not that it didn't crumple cars underneath, it was no lightweight stuff. Miracle no one was walking out to car during it - employer there said it was a time many got off work. Passed within 1/4 mile of Ft Worth National Weather Service office. We only ended up with a few heavy spits of rain, lost power once. No hail. I've heard talk on weather board of freeze next weekend. Guess I need to get patio plants corralled. Today is cool, sunny lovely fall day. Goats are all laying out in the sun.
Chevster - no you are right about Pawprint. She has Annie Mae and Snuggs. That's why she's Pawprint lol.
Spookie - Don't know much about prostate cancer. Know anti-androgen therapy is common. Same idea as anti-estrogen. Maybe worth a repeat test before beginning treatment. Just a thought. Prayers with him and with you too. PCP? Does DH have a specialist, urologist maybe?
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Well our heat is ON! Our high will be 55 and we are not quite getting frost at night. The sun is shining brilliantly through our liquid amber tree with it's star shaped yellow leaves. The skies are pristine blue. So as I am laying here being a bum drinking coffee and enjoying the colors out the window, I notice a pair of downy Woodpeckers marching along the the trunk! It was fun to see them as a pair. They aren't very big but striking birds; red head and black and white bodies make quite a sight. Cool thing to wake up to. Supposed to rain the weekend, so I will enjoy this sunny day. Hope you are all warm where it's cold and cooling off in the ocean where it's hot. Be well.
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Aw Rosie, now you've got me missing my downies! Our last house was on an acre of trees, mostly blackjack oaks which are susceptible to carpenter ants when they get ready to die. So the woodpeckers were everywhere. Funny story, when we first bought the house, it had a flat roof with a cedar mansard siding and the woodpeckers loved it! We eventually replaced it with a pitched roof. I loved the place, but my knees couldn't take the stairs – it was a tri level, so always up and down. But I miss the wild acre. Do I have a pic? Let's see.
No pic of the original siding but I found one of after we remodeled. We had it sided with a concrete siding that looked like wood but would never need painting. Loved it.
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great to hear mamma ray, grab those beautiful moments when we can:)
Sas.....not yet...sometimes you need to hold on to the thought it's all good. I will tell him next treatment. I don't hold back from him long enough to jeopardize myself. Just long enough to breathe once in awhile
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Jazzy, that's cold. Is it common to have temp drop to 27 where you live in NM this time of the year?
Ms. Sas, hopefully you can sleep off the headache. I don't remember getting one when they scan me for the osteoma, but there are reports of people complaining of headache afterwards.
Ms. Spookie, sounds like androgen deprivation therapy. Lupron came to mind, but there are a few anti androgen injections out there. It is not chemo. It's chemical castration.
Hi MamaRay, where did you go on your cruise ? I usually need a few days break after my vacation before going back to work. Are you almost done with your RT?
Susan, we know you are wiser than not to say anything. I kind of understand the need for breathing room. Hoping it's just your body trying to fight an infection.
Rose, always love how you describe things. You must live near a wild lifepreserved area.
We turned our heater on 2 days ago. Low got into the high 30's.
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there is a 6 month Lupron,, so that would be my guess too. Hot flashes are a really common SE. It also comes as a monthly injection,,, just saying,, maybe try the monthly first,, see how he tolerates it.
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Hi ladies- I went to an interesting presentation today on Cuba with a group that may be going next March. My sister and I are trying to decide if we are going or not on this trip. Cuba looks like a total time warp, I think it would be way cool to go soon before it all changes. We will have to decide soon, and/or may also choose a different group tour experience too. Jazzygirl would have a Latin jazzy good time if she went!
Loveroflife- mid to northern NM is mostly high desert and a large plateau that increases in elevation from south to north. As you drive from southern NM where it is low desert (more like Tucson or Phoenix), then find yourself around 5000 plus feet middle of the state where I live, then you are more into alpine (7000-8000 feet) up north around Taos and up to the CO border. Mountain elevations are much higher. As a result, we get seasons here and do get snow and cold from central NM on north. So temps like this can be felt anywhere between Nov to March. It often has a cold snap like this around early Nov. For some reason,it seems colder to me? More sensitive to temp extremes these days. It's hard getting old!
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Do any of you know the actor, Chris O'Dowd? He is an Irish actor whom was in the movie Bridesmaids (super funny if you have not seen it), and has been in a bunch of HBO series movies. I really like him and think he is cute, and there is the guy I saw in town this summer who is the spitting image of him. A bit taller and huskier, but the same face. Anyways, today I saw him at Whole Food again.
I know what you are thinking, did she make a move? He is probably a good 20 years younger than me, so no. Younger is good, decades younger is a bit much. Eye candy.
Well at least I notice!
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This was the front door with original siding.
Look! That's my downy woodpecker! So sweet.
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thanks to all who replied to my post yesterday. My insurance is Aetna PPO. When diagnosed with breast cancer in 2010 the oncologist ran a Petscan and found a tumor on my liver. A team of 10 doctors on the tumor board said because of location deep central within liver the tumor could not be biopsied. I was referred to cancer doc specializing in liver cancer. He said he would run blood tests and scans and watch for changes. Now that breast cancer treatment has ended and I don't take Arimidex he wanted to scan more often to see if it was Arimidex that kept it from growing. But now Aetna says no more liver scans only blood work. Doc appealed 3 times but Aetna says no. I will be calling Aetna myself next week to see what I can do
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Sass, feel better soon.
NM is wonderful at night! One of my fav memories is sitting out at night in winter all wrapped up. We were up at a resort called Ten Thousand Waves and it was like you could touch the stars. So cold it was crisp! Love that area. Jazz, I'd take that trip to Cuba! I'm just worried they won't have enough hotels!
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Pawprint, that is very frustrating!! Maybe you need, **cough** 10 years of Arimidex,,,,,, not that anyone would know if you actually took it or not,,,, *walks away whistling*
Mags: love the woodpecked pic,,, I can never get a photo of my visitors.
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That's a good thought Glennie. Or get your state insurance people involved.
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Just drop a suggestion to the MO,,, hey,, maybe I should take 10 years just to keep liver under control,, hint hint,,,,
I hate insurance companies.
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glennie, with you on that hate. Will they pay something? Mine will pay part of a pet, I have to pay the rest if I want one. This is how much they make sense...they will pay to run test, not to read test. Who writes these rules??
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What scares me is Aetna bought Humana. Had them many years, even while working. Had a few problems, but I still hate them. Supposedly they won't cover my insulin pump after next Oct. I don't know what I'm going to do. Die? I don't know how to do MDI, don't want to learn.
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sas, hope you are doing better...hugs
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