Can we have a forum for "older" people with bc?

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited September 2016

    The peace of one individual is small.The peace of many people together is big.When we see ourselves as separate from our community and from nature, then violence and strife arise.It is only when we understand our part in an overall unity that there is the possibility of peace on a large scale. -Deng Ming Dao

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited September 2016

    Cooler this week and that is so welcome for so much of what we will be having to do. Storms seemed to have moved out and that is good. I can get busy with a lot of projects that are just un-pleasant to do in hot, humid weather.

    Extra work yesterday but only a couple of hours so not bad. Still getting the over-abundance of my cousin's garden with tomatoes. Our yard, despite having lost some trees the past few yrs. remains way too shady for a garden. Glad to still have tomatoes that are fresh and home grown.

    Still laboring under the need to get a walking program and regular exercise going again. It is starting into 'have too' territory. My clothes while still fitting are doing so a whole lot differently then they were two or three months ago so I can't put it off any long. Figuring the cooler weather will allow me to get out and get walking which is one of the best all round exercises for older young people to do. I have one of those stretchy bands as well --- and that works great when you are sitting watching t.v.

    Anyway, off and running for the day. See you all later.

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Posts: 9,018
    edited September 2016

    What a treat to check in and read a post from Cammie!!!!! I've missed your wit and humor and your conversation about Joey. Please check in more often. You, too, Chevy. The two of you are a comedy team and give us some much-needed laughter.

    Sandra, great news about Mike. What a battle he has fought and is fighting. And how grueling it has all been for you. Hugs to you both.

    I am VERY ready to head south even if it means a period of sweat dripping down my nose. It was in the 40's when we got up this morning. I pulled some sweat pants over my exercise shorts and a sweat shirt over my tee shirt when I dressed to go to the gym. Afterwards we had breakfast at Great Northern, one of our breakfast places, and ran some errands.

    Shortly after we got back to the camper, it started raining. Outside it is gray and dreary. So it's a good day to be inside and warm and cozy.

    Our cargo trailer is parked outside. Yesterday we took care of winterizing the boat and outboard and getting it securely covered with a tarp that should shed the snow. I'm hoping we will be packed up and departing by the weekend.

    Greetings and good wishes to everyone.

  • ritajean
    ritajean Posts: 4,042
    edited September 2016

    It's a lovely cool, sunny day in east central Illinois today. There is a nice breeze and it's near to perfect! I bowled this morning and then had to make a grocery run so I missed quite a bit of the day but I'm enjoying it now.

    Carole, travel safely back to the south! We won't be heading south until January 1st.

    Jackie, my yard is alot like your yard....to shady to grow much of anything. One of my friends gave me a lovely purple aster plant for my birthday. I have watered it faithfully and have tried it in all different spots in the yard but it is nearly dead. My neighbor tells me that I don't have enough sun anywhere in the yard to sustain an aster so.......

    I'm off to enjoy the outdoors for a bit. I hope everyone is having a great day.


  • chisandy
    chisandy Posts: 11,646
    edited September 2016

    I turned off my A/C yesterday morning, and at bedtime figured all I’d need was the ceiling fan. Woke up a couple hours later and turned that off, too. When it becomes necessary to turn the heat back on, I’ll need both the ceiling fan and an open window. But till then, I’ll enjoy the good sleeping weather!

    Squirrels didn’t touch my tomatoes, which are now refusing in the slightest to ripen on the vine (not even the tiniest “blush” at the bottom). Have a windowsill full of ones now at peak ripeness. Might have to buy a couple for the interim between using them up and picking those on the vine. Picked some Concord grapes, which this year are very sweet—and the skins are barely tannic. Gotta fight the birds & squirrels for those.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited September 2016

    You cannot fail at being yourself.A cat doesn't try to be a tiger, and you shouldn't try to be something you aren't.You are a process, not a product.Your job is to discover what you are and to create that creature. You still won't be perfect, but success isn't about perfection--it is about authenticity.You are a success if you are being your real, authentic self.


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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited September 2016

    Morning, though it is somewhat dreary out. I don't think rain was in the forecast so I'll hope only clouds. It is remaining fairly cool and our a/c hasn't been on now for at least 3 days. Not sure we will need it any more this yr. but we could have a surprise. We do keep a fan on for a little bit off and on to just circulate the air while the doors are closed. Dh is too chilly to open the doors too early ---- so the fans have to do the work

    I think the majority of nuts are out of the trees now so we can start parking on the driveway again. Dh talked about putting up a carport -- and we could but that would be another "roof" to clean stuff off of when we have leaves, small limbs ( hopefully not too big a ones ) and nuts coming down through the year. So, we will see. Always lots to think about when you think of changing something.

    I may go get some allergy meds ( OTC ) later. The Spring and Fall are always a bit challenging since my sinuses drain a lot more then.

    Hope you are all going to have a fantastic day.


  • darab
    darab Posts: 895
    edited September 2016

    I'm envious of the cool temps you have Jackie. We're still pretty warm here, around 100, and hot dry winds have been fueling the fires here in CA. It's not unusual, but I'm so very ready for cooler temps. It's heartbreaking when we see all the fires all over the state. My DSIL is a firefighter, and even if he's not out on a fire, he gets forced with overtime to cover for those who are out on the lines. with the heather here, allergies are rampant. I started taking mine again this morning. You had me drooling yesterday talking about those homegrown tomatoes. We don't have the room for a garden here so I really miss the flavors of real tomatoes!

    Hope you all have a good day also.

    Sandra, hope your DH continues to gain strength. Take care.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited September 2016

    The less I take the difficulties of my life as personal affront,
    and the more I use them as an opportunity to learn and grow...
    the easier I sleep at night.
    - Mary Anne Radmacher

  • anneb1149
    anneb1149 Posts: 821
    edited September 2016

    Hi everyone,

    My cousin just emailed to tell me her husband is terminal- do they still use that word? He has amyloidosis. He has been sick for almost a year now, and has gone steadily downhill, regardless of any treatments. But they have never hinted that he might not recover from this. They just went to the Mayo Clinic and after a general check-up, the Dr asked how he has felt since he stopped chemo. Marshall said pretty much the same, and that's when the Dr said there is nothing else to do. He also mentioned that Marshall has melanoma as well as the amyloidosis. My cousin has asked me to ask if any of you have ever known anyone with this, and most of all wants to know if anyone has any ideas of other methods of healing this, besides conventional medicine.

    I am working on trying to find grants and scholarships for my grandson. His parents can't afford to pay for college, and I can't help. It is extremely frustrating. I have had a lot of trouble getting on the sites, and now that I am on, I click on the apply button, and nothing happens.

    I have also had to call back the cleaning service I had for the wedding. My house is not getting cleaned well by my daughter- she does a top cleaning, which includes vacuuming and mopping the floors, cleaning the countertops in the kitchen and bathrooms, and swiping the toilets. In her defense, she does work full time, but I did a better job when I was working and raising 5 kids.

    I "picked-up" today before they came. It was a great awakening to me. The three grandchildren that have rooms here- the one that lives here and the other two that are here every afternoon have no idea what "clean your room" means. I know that my DD has no organization skills- it is part of her learning disabilities, but I guess their dad isn't interested in helping them learn how either. Cleaning up to them means take it off the floor and put it on top of any furniture, or shove it into the closet or a corner. Doug's problem is mainly not bringing his dishes, cups and wrappers out of his room.

    The worst of it is that every where I tried to put something away was a total mess. I cleaned out the pantry, and Victoria, Kayden, and Alexandria's clothes, but everywhere I look, I find things that need to be cleaned, like under the sink, or a drawer in the kitchen. I guess with all the traveling, I just haven't noticed. Guess I won't be complaining about being bored for awhil

    Anne

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited September 2016

    I believe that the first test of a truly great person is his or her humility. I do not mean by humility, doubt of his or her own powers.But really great people have a curious feeling that the greatness is not in them, but through them. And they see something divine in every other person.
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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited September 2016

    Anne, I am sorry to hear that your cousin's Dh is terminal. I think the word is still used. I am un-aware of anything else that can be done but it never hurts to look at and research ( quickly ) anything that might present. We never know when the time will come for new discoveries. I do not see it as a high possibility here as you probably don't either, but I don't believe in giving up hope because we never know which soul will be the one who comes by a miracle.

    I hope you are able to figure out some way to help your grandson. Since I don't get along most of the time well at all with computers I can feel the frustration big time. Do you think it is not working because maybe they are out of funds right now?

    Frustrating too that things can't get cleaned up. At least the kids rooms, but it takes a lot of energy to "keep" on checking and having the kids do their rooms. I've certainly that feat that kids have of hanging things on the floor in the corner on in the middle of an un-made beg. The young ones don't make it easy. Sounds like a case of having to clean before the cleaning lady comes. Hope it all gets better and you don't have to fret over it so much.

    Woke up to rain beginning shortly after I got up. Looks calm now. I have something of a sore throat. Been fighting my sinuses and it simply could be that as I feel just fine. So, keeping my fingers crossed.

    Hope you all have a good and if possible non-rainy day though we are getting those cooler temps. so I can't complain. It is easy to be outside as of late.


  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited October 2016

    Integrity is telling myself the truth.
    And honesty is telling the truth to other people.

    Spencer Johnson

  • puffin2014
    puffin2014 Posts: 979
    edited October 2016

    Getting caught up on posts, Sandra, so happy to read your good news!

    I just got back from 6 days in South Carolina, went on a birding trip with Roadscholar (formerly Elderhostel). There were 13 participants and the 2 guides. Migrant birds hadn't arrived yet so less birds than I was expecting, but did see my first ever Clapper Rail. Very interesting evening programs. A woman brought some of her injured birds that are being used for education since they can't be returned to the wild - a Turkey Vulture, 2 screech owls, a Barred Owl and an American Kestrel. Another evening 2 men came who sew sweet grass baskets.

    So now I'm catching up on everything.

  • chisandy
    chisandy Posts: 11,646
    edited October 2016

    Anne, that trip sounds marvelous. (I'm not a birder, but a trip geared to one's favorite avocation is a wonderful thing). Have you taken any other Roadscholar trips, and if so, what were the pros and cons (strenuousness, personal space, etc.)?

  • puffin2014
    puffin2014 Posts: 979
    edited October 2016

    Sandy, this is my third Roadscholar trip and I've enjoyed each one. The first one was in Put-in-Bay, Ohio, an island in Lake Erie. That had the least amount of walking and hiking, had a variety of educational things besides the birding, excellent food and we stayed in B&B's. Second one was in SE Arizona, more hiking but it was labeled as moderately active so I expected it, more for hard core birders, we birded from breakfast to supper, stopping only for lunch and potty breaks. Excellent guides, I got 3 new birds and was thrilled with the experience. Food was good and we stayed at a nice motel. This last one had some hiking involved but all on level ground, it was more the heat and humidity that made the hikes a little harder but certainly do-able. This last one had a chef that cooked just for our group, overall healthy (except for the sinfully good desserts), and lodging was excellent, individual cabins with private baths for the single and double rooms. What I like about the Roadscholar trips is all expenses are covered, once you get there all programs, transportation (even the boat trip across Lake Erie to Canada), no tipping, all meals and lodging - are included in the price and so far I've felt the prices are reasonable. These were all small groups, 12 or 13 people plus the 2 guides. There's also a wide range of activities and interests offered in the programs - golfing, hiking, biking, sailing, museums, touring wineries, cruises, etc.

    The second trip had more free time throughout the week, and they made sure we knew we could do our own thing at any time but just to let the leader know if we were going off on our own for the afternoon so they wouldn't be waiting for us.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited October 2016

    One of the sanest, surest, and most generous joys of life
    comes from being happy over the good fortune of others.

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited October 2016

    Anne, ( Puffin ), if you were a travel agent, I think you could sell a lot of 'birding' trips. Your descriptions make it sound like something great all wrapped up together. Good times, good food, just the right amt. of challenge and variety. You almost couldn't ask for more.

    Coolish day today. We had showers ( not totally expected ) yesterday and the gray is getting tiresome. We do get a bit of sun between the storms which has helped me but overall I'm definitely not at my best when the there is not enough color and sun in the day. We will see about today. Even if cloudy hopefully we won't have rain. Fingers crossed.


  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited October 2016

    I used to think it was great to disregard happiness, to press on to a high goal, careless, disdainful of it.But now I see that there is nothing so great as to be capable of happiness, to pluck it out of each moment, and, whatever happens, to find that one can ride as gay and buoyant on the angry, menacing, tumultuous waves of life as on those that glide and glitter under a clear sky; that it is not defeat and wretchedness which come out of the storms of adversity, but strength and calmness. - Anne Gilchrist

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited October 2016

    Had to think about the above quote and wasn't even sure I should put it in ---- but then I really saw how you can use the adverse times in your life in a way that helps you to stay at a good functioning level. The negative moments do help us learn to FIND our strength, and worthiness and ability. Realism at its best.

    Hoping our rain issues are truly behind us for now. Coolness will still be the order though a temperature spike one day maybe. I mainly rely on the weatherman ( and not too heavily often ) for an idea of expectations knowing how quick weather patterns can go awry here. Years ago, and not sure how it is not, when we lived in California --- you pretty much always got what your local weatherman said you would. It has never been that way here but the last few yrs. have really magnified that. So --- I think we will be fine. Hopefully weather ( though I'll wait a day or two yet ) will soon be just right to give my car another GOOD car wash. Soon, it will be too cool outside to 'hose' down much of anything.

    Hope you all have a fantastic day.

    Jackie

  • Seedsally
    Seedsally Posts: 141
    edited October 2016

    Jackie have you ever heard the saying about Missouri? "If you don't like the weather just stick around a day or two. It's sure to change!" That's probably true for your area too. I guess it's hard for the weather people to get it right very often. Ha! Ha

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited October 2016

    Seed Sally --- yes I have heard something very similar. I think the one saying that did say the same thing but just with less time. I really think the global warming patterns have changed things so much here. For instance, this time of yr. is usually starting to back off from really high heat to quite tolerable. The difference this yr. was all the rain. We just don't get near as much as we have this yr. When we first came we didn't turn our a/c till last week of July and maybe first weeks of August. A couple of years we have had to turn it on in June. So we will see how it goes -- they say a hard winter this yr., but they said it last yr. and it never came. Sigh !!!!! I've come to expect anything and do my best to tolerate what comes.

  • chisandy
    chisandy Posts: 11,646
    edited October 2016

    Cool and cloudy here on the city’s N. lakefront—with a huge fog bank hovering offshore. My car’s climate control has been set at 68 degrees, and for the first time it’s the heat and not the A/C that’s kicking in. All my tomatoes (about 15 still on the vine) are still green—we’re supposed to get 70s and sun the next few days. Hoping to get a bit of blush on them before the squirrels catch on. Our Concords are sweeter than they’ve ever been. Normally, they’re not my favorite grape, but it’s worth having to spit out seeds for them this season.

  • wren44
    wren44 Posts: 8,075
    edited October 2016

    Our highest predicted temperature for the next 10 days is 62. I'm going to pack up my summer shirts except for the layering ones.

  • anneb1149
    anneb1149 Posts: 821
    edited October 2016

    Morning all

    Just want to agree with Jackie about A/C's. When we first moved to Fl in 1973, until maybe 8 years ago, we turned the air on in late April, early May, and turned it off at the end of Sept. Between Sept and April, windows were opened, we ate most dinners on he patio, kids played outside, etc. Now, we go straight from A/C to heater, never turning the unit off. We will wake up freezing one morning, and switch to the heater. Many times, by that afternoon, we are back to A/C. Sometimes we get several days with the heater, but not in recent years. I, like many others dismissed"global warming" as a political catchword, although I had no idea which political party was benefitting from it. They were crazy, anyway- the winters were colder and more brutal than I remembered. Then I heard someone call it climate change, and that made sense to me.

    Anyway, please keep me in your thoughts and prayers today- I have a dentist appt for the first time since the BC. I am terrified of the dentist, so much so that my husband made our appts and pretty much dragged me by my hair to the office. I had a couple of bad experiences over the years. I was planning to ask Tim to come with me so I could take some Ativan before I went, but thought my appt was tomorrow. I will let you all know how it goes as soon as my hands stop shaking enough for me to type.

    Anne

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited October 2016

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    You are a child of the universe, "fearfully and wonderfully made."
    In the history of creation, there has never been anyone like you.
    Accept this reality about yourself—that you are a special, unique
    human being who has a place on this earth that no one else can fill. Acknowledge yourself as a glorious expression of your loving Creator.
    This healthy self-love will form the foundation of a joyful and
    satisfying life. Then, as you love and accept yourself, your inner
    light will shine outward to bless and heal your fellow human beings.
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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Posts: 46,506
    edited October 2016

    Anne, either you are in good company or I am. I hate the dentist, I hate how the office smells, and I don't even like the people who work there who seem so blasé and comfortable about it all. Like you, I know, generally that I'm being " too sensitive " and certainly allowing myself to draw inferences and conclusions that really aren't much there ( except I my head ) but it is not easy. All for an incident that took place when I was 17. I never liked going to the dentist period, but the day ( at 17 ) when the dentist chose not to waste Novocain on me haunts me to this day at 71 yrs. of age. I can do it, but I don't really go unless some dental issue forces it, but I might have saved some of the teeth that now aren't there had I not had my "experience" at 17.

    You know what I think ---- just like all of us having different kinds of breast cancers, txs, and experiences --- we never know in our life what is going to have a really BAD effect, scarring, scaring, and making us feel so timid and far less in control. I see myself as a sane, viable, decent person --- except when I think about dentists and going to their offices. Then for me I become just a bit not balanced well. I can be timid about medical tests, and even my mammogram and I can't say I LOOK forward to going, but darn, I don't feel 'irrational' about it like I do the dentist.

    So Anne, I'm enjoying your company as a fellow traveler in dental upset and fear.

  • darab
    darab Posts: 895
    edited October 2016

    I hope this doesn't offend anyone, but I'd read your posts about the dentist and then had a friend post this on FaceBook so thought it might give you a chuckle! I used to HATE my dentist until I found the right one and the BEST hygienist. Good luck Anne!

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  • bonnets
    bonnets Posts: 737
    edited October 2016

    Yup Anne I agree! I finally made a dentist appt. for Thursday. Have a tooth that has been sensitive when I eat or drink and i've been putting it off. Guess we have dentalphobia!

    I moved all my summer clothes and brought the longer sleeves in over the weekend. Been in the 60's for the most part here, with 50s and 40s at night. Wearing my short coat or a hoodie when I go out. It is better than the 90s with 95% humidity, that we had last month. The world has experienced climate changes for decades, guess this is part of a natural cycle!

  • wren44
    wren44 Posts: 8,075
    edited October 2016

    Bonnets, I'm doing the same with my clothes. The high for this week is supposed to be 65. Lows are 49-51. It smells like fall and the leaves agree.

    I don't like the dentist, but I show up for regular cleanings. It seems to keep the rest of it at bay.