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  • deni1661
    deni1661 Posts: 425
    Fleur, sorry you have to be here but this is the best place for information, support, inspiration and new friends who understand what you're going through!

    I have been participating in a clinical trial (details below) since September 2016. I get Herceptin and Perjeta every 3 weeks and take a daily aromatase inhibitor (Letrazole). I did not do chemo. I had a mastectomy (only because I had 2 tumors) and pathology results were terrific: clear margins, clear lymph nodes and only a few single cancer cells in the tissue. My side effects from HP were minimal but the AI causes me a few minor issues (runny nose, dry skin, brittle hair, fatigue and tailbone pain). I changed my diet significantly after diagnosis and my MO said that may have contributed to how quickly and fully I responded to the HP. I have 2 treatments left and despite the side effects I feel great and very grateful for the opportunity to participate in this clinical trial.

    I wish you the very best and pray you respond well to whatever treatment you choose. Feel free to private message me if you have questions.

    Take care, hugs


    NEOADjuvant Aromatase Inhibitor and Pertuzumab/Trastuzumab for Women With Breast Cancer (NEOADAPT)

    https://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02689921?term=Cancer+treatment+centers&cond=Breast+Cancer&cntry1=NA:US&draw=1&rank=2
  • Icedgem
    Icedgem Posts: 4

    Hello everyone, I am new to this site and recently diagnosed with triple positive breast cancer. I have found all of the info given on this forum to be very useful, there doesn't seem to be much info out there that I could find for triple + cancer. I have just been tested ( yesterday) for the genetic gene mutation as they think I have a risk of having a Brca1 / brca2 or other gene mutation. My results are in 3 weeks and my surgery is dependant on the results. If I am positive then I'm looking at a bilateral with reconstruction and oophorectomy. If not then a lumpectomy. My tumor is about 1.5 cm and grade 3 and is up against / growing into the pectoral muscle. My surgeon suggested chemo first to try to shrink the tumor so they can get it away from the muscle and therefore get clear margins. My case it being discussed later this week at the tumor board. I hope they start treatment soon, as the constant waiting for results and knowing this thing is in there doing what it wants scares me, I need to start the fighting back.

    From what I have read about, most gene mutations are in triple negative or Her2 / new negative cancers. I haven't come across a triple positive person who had Brca1 or Brca2 as yet. If there is someone out there with this combo I would love to hear from you.

    Take care and lots of hugs to everyone

  • Icedgem
    Icedgem Posts: 4

    Hello everyone, I am new to this site and recently diagnosed with triple positive breast cancer. I have found all of the info given on this forum to be very useful, there doesn't seem to be much info out there that I could find for triple + cancer. I have just been tested ( yesterday) for the genetic gene mutation as they think I have a risk of having a Brca1 / brca2 or other gene mutation. My results are in 3 weeks and my surgery is dependant on the results. If I am positive then I'm looking at a bilateral with reconstruction and oophorectomy. If not then a lumpectomy. My tumor is about 1.5 cm and grade 3 and is up against / growing into the pectoral muscle. My surgeon suggested chemo first to try to shrink the tumor so they can get it away from the muscle and therefore get clear margins. My case it being discussed later this week at the tumor board. I hope they start treatment soon, as the constant waiting for results and knowing this thing is in there doing what it wants scares me, I need to start the fighting back.

    From what I have read about, most gene mutations are in triple negative or Her2 / new negative cancers. I haven't come across a triple positive person who had Brca1 or Brca2 as yet. If there is someone out there with this combo I would love to hear from you.

    Take care and lots of hugs to everyone

  • T-Sue
    T-Sue Posts: 207

    Icedgem - I'm so sorry for your diagnosis. The waiting and the angst during the initial diagnosis is really the worst! I began to fear every phone call and was so drained from the uncertainty. I honestly think that period was the most mentally draining of the whole process so far (and I have had my double mastectomy and am middway through chemo!).

    Hang in there! Come to these boards for support and find pleasure in your daily life!

    Sending you hugs from Colorado!

  • Icedgem I'm so sorry for the circumstances that have brought you here, but you're in the right place. I tested positive for the brca2 gene mutation and am her2 positive. I got the genetic testing because I was adopted at birth and did not have any family medical information. I haven't heard before that this was a rare combination.
  • poseygirl
    poseygirl Posts: 298

    Hi All,

    I've been off the board for the last couple weeks (emotionally kind of drained lately). I hope you're all well...

    I have a question...I've been experiencing some nausea over the past almost 2 weeks. I don't throw up, but my stomach is upset at least half the day. I don't have full on diarrhea, but about two steps away from that. The nurse at the hospital said to go see my GP. My most recent bloodwork was July 5 and showed normal liver function in looking at all the enzyme markers, bilirubin, etc.

    Is it possible that I'm going through late side effects from Herceptin? Is there such a thing? i.e. side effects that start to come after you're later in your treatments? I don't think doctors think this happens, but I just wonder. I'm going to get it checked out, but thought I'd ask here. I'm also on Letrazole and started that 2 months ago. I take supplements - Calcium, Vitamin D, Magnesium, Krill Oil, Turmeric. I cut out the Magnesium on the off chance it's doing this to me (but I doubt it). It's getting me down.

    Thanks...

  • emily_mh
    emily_mh Posts: 53

    I was just diagnosed last month and I started chemo last Wednesday (9 days ago) I am going to talk to my MO tomorrow but I feel like I should know more about my lymph nodes. Isn't it important to know if it's spread to the nodes? I'm having 6 rounds of chemo before surgery. I had a breast MRI that showed two abnormal looking nodes but when I was sent for an ultrasound biopsy, the radiologist couldn't find any nodes to biopsy. I guess I should be relieved by that, but I'm not. Is this normal procedure fro triple positive people? to not know about nodes until the surgery after chemo?

  • elainetherese
    elainetherese Posts: 1,640

    PoseyGirl,

    Since chemo, I've had stomach issues similar to IBS, with cramping, abdominal pain, bloating, gas, and diarrhea. Fortunately, these symptoms have only surfaced about twice a year, and they only last a few days. I avoid eating certain foods (cabbage, beans, and fatty foods) that exacerbate the bloating and gas. I don't doubt that chemo/targeted therapy may have permanently affected my digestive system. However, I can't freak out about it. As long as my mammograms are clean, and I don't have any other symptoms, I'm good.

    Hope you feel better soon!

  • poseygirl
    poseygirl Posts: 298

    Thanks, ladies.

    But isn't it odd that this would be treatment related if it's been 15 Herceptin treatments? Doesn't that seem late in the day to start getting side effects?

    As for being sent to my GP, what I'm being told in general at this point is that there is a 'standard of care' in terms of when they order tests and not. So if you have a general complaint, you should see your GP. I find it annoying. But I'm in tomorrow having an echocardiogram. I'm going to go to the cancer centre and talk to the nurses about it more. I've dropped a notch in my belt in one week's time. Did you have any nausea, Elaine? For me, the main symptoms are feeling an upset stomach, 'almost' diarrhea, lots of gas and generally feeling off. My energy is the same - no fatigue.


  • debiann
    debiann Posts: 447

    Posey Girl

    Is the krill oil a new supplement for you? My stomach cannot tolerate fish oil and krill oil is similar. Here is what web md has to say about krill oil.

    "krill oil can cause some side effects similar to fish oil such as bad breath, heartburn, fishy taste, upset stomach, nausea, and loose stools."

  • Post a reply

    Hi everyone. I have a dilemma and am looking for your opinion.

    Most of you know I have been having problems with my wound since having a lumpectomy followed by further surgery to clear the margin and then starting weekly taxol. I had 2 cycles, wound opened, had a break of 4 weeks until wound healed, had another 3 cycles of taxol, wound broke down again and am on another break waiting for it to heal.

    I met today with my oncologist and now have a decision to make over weekend. I have 2 choices:

    i) Stop Taxol and go straight to AI and 4 weeks of radium (also getting herceptin every 3 weeks for a year)

    ii) Give Taxol one more try (have had 5 cycles of 12 so 7 cycles left) but have a very high risk of wound breaking down again which would push my other treatments out until wound heals again. There is also a high risk of infection as I did have one the first time wound opened and oncologist is afraid next time it could be worse, even life threatening.

    I am so afraid of stopping chemo but that is what my head and heart are both telling me to do. I really wish the oncologist had made the decision for me but unfortunately she hasn't so it's down to me.

    Any advice is greatly appreciated. I am also posting this in the weekly taxolgroup forum.

    Thank you everyone ☺️☺️

  • AliceAgnes
    AliceAgnes Posts: 44

    I'd do what my head and heart tell me to do. Besides, there is always more than one way to kill cancer and anytime your doctors offer an alternative way, it's because they have confidence the alternative will work.

  • specialk
    specialk Posts: 9,299

    posey - try adding a probiotic, it helped me during Herceptin only

    emily - the problem with neoadjuvent chemo is that your staging can be a bit murky if your nodal status is undetermined prior to starting. Even if you were node positive the treatment would likely be unchanged. If at the time of surgery your sentinel node looks like cancer had been present your oncologist would most likely opt for radiation. I like to advise having a SNB done at the time of port placement if at all possible so that nodal status is more clear prior to chemo, if imaging has not revealed known cancer in the axilla


  • lita19901
    lita19901 Posts: 176

    I'm going slightly nuts waiting for the pathology report from last Friday's lumpectomy. When I had DCIS surgery a few years back both times the results came on Wednesday following aFriday surgery. Does a pathology report for IDC take longer than one for DCIS?

  • elainetherese
    elainetherese Posts: 1,640

    Emily,

    I had a fine needle biopsy of a suspicious node, but that was only possible because the ultrasound technician could find it. Your nodal status won't change your chemo plan, but it could affect how many nodes are removed during surgery. Generally speaking, the more nodes removed, the higher your chances of lymphadema. Maybe you could have an MRI-guided biopsy of the suspicious nodes (Special K -- is that possible)?

    Yes, doing chemo first does make staging more difficult, especially if chemo wipes everything out!


  • HapB - I haven't seen a wound specialist. The breast care nurse specialist has been taking care of me so I am in good hands. When I was started on taxol there was already a query about the wound not being fully healed. As they were anxious to start they decided to go ahead. In hindsight it probably was started too soon and now the chemo is breaking the wound down after 2/3 cycles. The BCN told me straight she thought the wound would continue giving to give me bother and my oncologist agreed today.

    I have decided to quit the Taxol and move to the next step. I have to start hormone therapy (more research for me) and 4 weeks of radium. The radium is another worry as there cannot be any breaks in the treatment. I have to hope the wound will be completely healed before it starts and won't break down during the 4 week treatment.

    I hope and pray this is the right decision to make 🙏🏻😔💕

    Good luck to everyone on their Taxol journey, whether just starting or nearing the finishing line. Sending love and best wishes to all of you ❤️☺️☺️
  • suburbs
    suburbs Posts: 398
    emily_mh, I pondered this very question many times. If my node status is murky then I don't know if I will need radiation. My disease was multi-focal - dcis and IDC. So, once an MRI confirmed the second field of cancer, then a lumpectomy was off the table and a mastectomy was required. At that point with neoadjuvant chemo planned, there was no reason to order a node biopsy. I waited until surgery after 6 rounds of TCHP to find out my node status. It bothered me very much not to have a complete staging initially. Everyone's situation is different; however, going months without a complete node picture is normal.
  • deni1661
    deni1661 Posts: 425
    Hey poseygirl - you and I are on the same schedule, I only have 2 treatments left also. I've had nausea and dizziness the previous 2 infusions and my MO did say it could the HP accumulating in my body causing a new reaction. It's always worse the week to 10 days after treatment. Or it could be the Letrazole or a combination of all of the above. He expects things to get better when I'm done.

    I hope the same for you and things get better. Hugs
  • deni1661
    deni1661 Posts: 425

    lita, the waiting is so stressful - I pray you receive good news very soon. Hang in there

  • deni1661
    deni1661 Posts: 425
    Emily mh- I was in the same situation as you i.e I did not know for sure about lymph nodes until I woke up from my mastectomy. They did a few ultrasounds but could never give a definite answer whether they were negative. That always weighed heavy on my mind. I prayed on it a lot and when I woke up, the recovery room nurse was shouting the results to everyone!

    I will pray you have the same results, take care
  • deni1661
    deni1661 Posts: 425

    icedgem- sorry you have to be here but this a great place for information and support. I agree with T-Sue, the waiting and anxiety in the beginning was the worst part of my cancer experience. Once I met with my oncologist and decided on my treatment plan, my survival skills kicked into high gear. Do your research, don't be afraid to ask lots of questions and have faith you will get through this. We're here for you.

    Take care




  • poseygirl
    poseygirl Posts: 298

    Debiann, thanks...I started the krill oil about 6 weeks ago? And the first little episode of this was about 3 weeks ago? I was going to remove one supplement at a time to see...thanks for the thought.

    SpecialK, did you have stomach issues? Any probiotic you recommend? I will go to the health store.

    Deni, thanks for that too. I truly hope it's the Herceptin. My last infusion was July 13 and this really kicked on July 18, so I'm just not sure.

    I'm so scared about liver. The nurse doesn't think it sounds like that and said my July 5 bloodwork showed normal levels on the liver markers. I asked her "could there be liver issues and yet normal blood results?". She replied that if there was a problem there, the blood would show something wonky. I hope she's right.

  • Icedgem
    Icedgem Posts: 4

    Thank you everyone for the support, I'm so glad I found you.

    deni1661 - I totally agree with you, as soon as the oncologists decide on my treatment plan, I will be a lot happier and can focus on fighting back

    I am meeting with my MO tomorrow, so hopefully I might get an indication of what is going to happen. The tumor board meeting is tomorrow also, so it's a big day - I hope. I'm expecting to be told something.

    Tough cookie - thank you for coming forward, I was led to believe it was a fairly rare combo, but i am on information overload right now after that genetic test.

    Will keep you posted - Thanks again and take care

  • Tresjoli2
    Tresjoli2 Posts: 579

    Posey the same thing happened to me. My doctor had me take prilosec for four weeks to "reset" my stomach...it worked like a charm. I can't remember why now...but I remember that happening to me.

  • emily_mh
    emily_mh Posts: 53

    Thank you all for answering my question about lymph node biopsy and staging. I guess I'll just have to wait until surgery to find out.

    Also, today I found out I have an infection around my port. Has anyone had this problem and did antibiotics clear it up in time for next round? I wonder if I can just change to IV in arm

  • Tresjoli2
    Tresjoli2 Posts: 579

    Posey forgot to mention the prilosec was 2x a day for the 1st two weeks and then 1x a day

  • moodyblues
    moodyblues Posts: 393

    Hey everyone, had a bit of a setback this week, my labs came back very low with my platelets on Wednesday at 45,000 and then by Friday they dropped to 27,000 and they sent me for a platelet transfusion.  At those numbers, I have an increased risk of bleeding without injury.  I REALLY did not want the infusion but the oncology nurse and MO felt it was necessary in order to keep me safe.  Of all the things in the world I didn't want, was this.  I wanted to wait till Monday to check again (before transfusion) but they seemed very concerned about me waiting that long.  I was told that they would adjust my chemo on Wednesday but I have to have labs again Monday before even proceeding.  As much as I hate chemo, I don't want this to set me back!!

    Melanie

  • coachvicky
    coachvicky Posts: 984

    Moody Blues (Melanie)

    Happy you trusted your Oncology Team and did what they recommended. I think this won't set you back but help you move forward.

    Vicky

  • elainetherese
    elainetherese Posts: 1,640

    Moody Blues,

    In the short run, it's no fun to prolong treatment. In the long run, this infusion will be but a blip. Take it easy and listen to your doctors. ((Hugs))

  • lita19901
    lita19901 Posts: 176

    My surgeon called this morning and I am lymph node negative! Stage 1A, 1.5 cm, clear margins, Grade 2. Funny how your perspective changes, but this is such a relief