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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,952
    edited December 2020

    Constantly exposing yourself to popular culture and the mass media will ultimately shape your reality tunnel in ways that are not necessarily conducive to achieving your Soul Purpose and Life Calling. Modern society has generally "lost the plot." Slavishly following its false gods and idols makes no sense in a spiritually aware life. -Anthon St. Maarten

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Member Posts: 8,355
    edited December 2020

    The blue light treatment on my face yesterday was not enjoyable but was tolerable. The technician instructed me to stay indoors for two days, avoiding sunshine. There is no sunshine this morning so far. I may disobey instructions and go to the gym this afternoon for some cardio exercise and the chair yoga class, which I really like and find beneficial. On the short distance from my car to the gym, a mask will cover most of my face.

    Eventually the outer layer of skin will peel off.

    Glad your family members are ok, Petite.

    The furnace heat feels good this morning.

    Happy Thursday. Hope the view out the window isn't gloomy as it is here.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,952
    edited December 2020

    Sunny day here for which I am grateful. I have a couple of errands to do and a few more things here on the computer. Then just going to relax. We still have some snow on the ground, but it is sparse in places since it wasn't more than an inch or two anyway. Wasn't slippery at all this morning. Well, this close to Christmas snow is not a surprise really, but it looks like most of the temps in the coming week will be in high 40's and some 50's. I think that is higher temps than we usually have this time of yr. but then it has all been off for some time now with the global warming we have had going on.

    No plans for the upcoming week-end. Good time maybe to watch some of our movies that we have had on the shelf ( un-watched ) for some time now. We stay amused by the kittens ( Dilly and Dally ) but they do take long naps as yet. God time to take in a movie or two.

    I hope you all have a really good day.

  • keywestfan
    keywestfan Member Posts: 367
    edited December 2020

    The bad about being in a place like this, pretty luxurious Independent Living, in a building with Assisted Living, Skilled Nursing, Memory Care on separate locked floors,is the constant exposure, in hallways, elevator to people, many of whom are so hard of hearing that they don't distance and stand right up against you. Even with being masked, It's scary. We, in Independent Living,have voluntary testing once a week,which doesn’t do that much good because those who choose not to be tested could be asymptomatic carriers. And there are private caregivers for people who choose not to go to Assisted Living...And they are not tested and come in and out of the building. The good is that ,because this is a congregate living place, we will be right behind the first responders to get the vaccine. We have been told that we may have only a few days notice. Can’t wait, though some are afraid of the vaccine, one here who is 74, one, 97. Sort of nuts, I think.

    jud

  • mcbaker
    mcbaker Member Posts: 1,874
    edited December 2020

    We have 12 inhabited apartments here with four empty. Elderly and disabled only. Two people have caregivers, one of them would be in a nursing home in normal times. No known covid here.

  • chisandy
    chisandy Member Posts: 11,418
    edited December 2020

    Bob might get his vaccine tomorrow. The interventional cardiologist with whom he trades call got his today at Little Company of Mary--and he's only in his 40s. Bob was at Union Health and not LCM today, otherwise he'd have gotten it. He needs to hustle through his office hours in the morning to be in line at LCM by noon. (We're hoping that the only reason the other guy got it was not because he does angioplasties & caths, procedures Bob stopped doing when he hit 65. They both have equal exposure to COVID patients). I think the change of heart may have been the discovery that the vials hold 6 doses (some even 7) rather than 5. As for me, almost 70 with controlled asthma but a relatively recently-treated ocular melanoma, I'm probably looking at late March or maybe April for the Moderna vaccine--unless they reserve it for rural areas without those ultra-freezers.

    I'm perfectly fine with avoiding public transit & parking valets, wearing masks, and social-distancing until summer, and maybe beyond. Gotten used to it. By then, outdoor dining will have returned.

    Can't talk the kids out of driving down to the farm outside Houston next week. (Wish Leslie's parents had the sense to cancel--but I suspect Vrbo's "no-refunds" policy for properties booked after the pandemic took hold may be at play). They're getting tested tomorrow, and should have the all-clear by the time they leave Monday. They will then rapid-test on arrival, on departure, and then PCR-test on their return and quarantine for 10 days. (They both work from home and think the dog will be okay paper-trained in her crate).

    When they return, they will start looking for a nicer apt. Their block and neighborhood is wonderful, but their new (since June) upstairs neighbors are stoners with an autistic/ADHD kid who loves to ride his Big Wheel across the bare floor and throw it down the stairs in the middle of the night. And since the new tenants moved in, the building has waterbugs. Ugh. (Not safe to get an exterminator--we suspended ours till the pandemic eases). They are steeling themselves to need to pay half again as much in rent for an equal-sized but nicer apt. in another 2-flat that will allow a small dog. (Too soon to think about buying...yet). For the first year the kids lived there, the upstairs apt. was vacant and all was well. I will be on the lookout for something in a 2-or-3-flat in my neighborhood (hopefully, with covered parking).

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Member Posts: 8,355
    edited December 2020

    We have a lovely white frost this morning.

    This is day two and final day for staying inside and avoiding any sunshine. My face didn't turn as red as last experience with blue light treatment. I'm wondering if the skin will peel off this time.

    Love the kitten names. Nothing cuter than kittens and puppies.

    Even though we have some Christmas decorations out, it doesn't seem like Christmas. Maybe because I haven't done any shopping or bought any presents. DH and I don't have any items on a Christmas list. He wants and needs a new golf bag but prefers to select it himself. He's quite a shopper.

    His use of the new CPAP machine is great for my sleeping since he doesn't snore.

    Happy Friday to all.

  • petite1
    petite1 Member Posts: 2,326
    edited December 2020

    Hi, Ladies. It was 34 this morning, but bright and sunny, going to 59.

    My grand nephew has recovered from COVID and going back to work. YAY

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,952
    edited December 2020

    Live to experience something new each day -
    to learn something new, to meet a new friend,
    to bring joy into someone's life,
    to feel the wind newly on your skin,
    to touch a new fear and a new anger,
    and with focused intent and good fortune,
    to find an ample measure of your own joy.
    - Jonathan Lockwood Huie

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,952
    edited December 2020

    Cold out this morning but will get up to 50. That is good for us. It will melt out most of the last vestiges of snow that is still around. Temps. will be quite cool in the early morning and warm to 50's each day for the next week. Good enough for me.

    Not much planned for today. Some food and then a nap. I had one of those rare nights when I just couldn't seem to fall asleep. So, I'll make up for it I hope while not messing up for tonight. Usually I do okay.

    I am not in the Christmas mood either. I think it is partly how we are having to live right now, as well as just general exhaustion for the past four yrs. I look forward to seeing things change, but first we have to get the covid under really good control -- then maybe work on what will be normal for us after that. The big bright spot is that we will have a president who cares and wants ALL of us to get well and do well. So, I'm okay with being not too full of spirit for the holiday.

    Hope you all have a good day.

  • chisandy
    chisandy Member Posts: 11,418
    edited December 2020

    Chilly today, not going anywhere. PJs all day, and I don't care that Thelma & Louise are riding low & uneven since I'm not putting on a bra. Waiting for a callback from Bob about whether he got vaccinated. I messaged my PCP and her nurse replied that NShore is doing healthcare workers first, and since they don't know how much of each vax they'll get, they haven't established a waiting list for patients. I'm more concerned he gets his shot first--he is in greater danger, and if I somehow test positive once he's immune he can temporarily live in a hotel while I isolate at home. (If he tests positive before me, isolation will be a nightmare--he's never lived alone and doesn't know how to take care of himself, all our clothes are in our bedroom, and we have only one bathroom with a usable tub/shower).

  • chisandy
    chisandy Member Posts: 11,418
    edited December 2020

    This just in: Bob's vaccine appt. is tomorrow morning!

  • wren44
    wren44 Member Posts: 7,967
    edited December 2020

    Great news, Sandy!

  • cindyny
    cindyny Member Posts: 1,356
    edited December 2020

    We had 25" of snow! Yesterday was spent in cleanup mode. Our plow didn't get here until dark, the side road we're on the corner of hasn't been touched all day. We made some calls, a plow was sent around 8 pm. That's our cars, covered in snow. As we took snow off, thete was no place to put it. I used our roof rake to take snow off of our awning, porch and as much off he roof edge that I could reach. Tomorrow I'll take a picture of the mountain plowed on my front lawn. 2020 will throw everything at us!

    image

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,952
    edited December 2020

    Wow Cindy. I'm not going to say a word about the measly snowfall we had here a couple days ago. If this was your first snow and you had over two feet that is pretty remarkable. I soooo hope 2021 will be as kind as possible to all. I hope this was just a sort of freak event, but I'm aware that NY is definitely 'snow' country. My bil and sil lived in Buffalo while bil was going to school and they had some super snowfalls there.

    You're right -- 2020 was lousy enough already w/o mile high snow too. Here's hoping things settle out but that will involve a lot of snow that will have to melt. I'm sorry that happened. Wishing you well.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,952
    edited December 2020

    Sandy -- wonderful. Good to hear.

  • mcbaker
    mcbaker Member Posts: 1,874
    edited December 2020

    Congratulations to Sandy and Bob!! I would hate to se both of you sick, which is the most likely scenario. Especially with HK's husband's health issue.

  • chisandy
    chisandy Member Posts: 11,418
    edited December 2020

    Thanks. I'll breathe easier when he calls to tell me "mission accomplished." HK's DH already had COVID in April, but as a veteran under V.A. care, he'll be getting his shot next week anyway (in case immunity waned--immunity acquired via infection is weaker than that by vaccination).

    Cindy, wow! I don't envy you the task of snow-shov...uh, "shuffling;" but the winter is still young and our turn will likely come. We become "Chiberia" on Christmas Eve morning--it'll be time to start wrapping the basement pipes and trickling the faucets again.

    Judy, Walgreen's plans to start vaccinating at the Admiral by 12/29. Not sure if you'll get yours through them or NorthShore.

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Member Posts: 8,355
    edited December 2020

    Yay, Sandy! Glad that Bob will be vaccinated.

    Jackie, I am hopeful that damage to the environment will be paused and hopefully even reversed during the next four years with a new administration. In the US, anyway.

    My two days of staying inside and avoiding sunlight are over but I don't have much incentive to go outside today except to "dead head" the pansies in planters on the patio.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,952
    edited December 2020

    We share with all life the capacity for feeling, the experience of having a body, mind, and heart in continual interface with countless other bodies, minds, and hearts. Our capacity to feel deeply means we share with all life the possibility of experiencing delight, joy, trust, and intimacy, just as we share in the capacity to experience pain, sorrow, grief, and fear. Living within a physical body, we all share the experience of aging, frailty, illness, and death, just as we share the precious times of strength, health, safety, and vitality. Through our minds we share the capacity to experience confusion, agitation, and complexity, just as we share the possibilities of serenity, clarity, and balance. An understanding of this profound interconnectedness of all life is at the root of the compassionate heart dedicated to alleviating suffering without reservation or exception. -Christina Feldman

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,952
    edited December 2020

    You just never know -- but it is raining here this morning. Not sure, but hopefully we won't get all that much. I need to go out and see if the feral cats will eat. As long as it is not a real rain ( only misty type ) they will stand out and eat. I don't have the heart not to give it a try -- even if at some point it may come down too hard for them to stay out.

    There is a couple who live in a small town not far from here. The lady needs to come to our local dialysis center three days a week. One of those days is today ( Saturday ) so I'm always hopeful that since the cats get two opportunities to eat they will get enough. Each of us ( myself and the other lady and her husband ) knows this as we have run into each other a number of times. I don't know how long the other couple have been coming -- I never asked. I have been going to that now abandoned ( up for sale ) store for I think at least 14 yrs. I'm just thrilled that someone else cares and I've not felt so horrid about the few days ( and it is pretty darn few ) that I've had to go to Marion really early ( before the cats even think of coming out ) because if it is one of the Odin couples days to be at dialysis I know the cats will for sure get their food. When I get home from Marion I often go check to see if they want to come out and eat a second time. No reason not to spoil those sweeties just as much as I'm willing to spoil the ones that live with me.

    I hope you all have a great Saturday.

  • petite1
    petite1 Member Posts: 2,326
    edited December 2020

    Good morning, Ladies. Today I have been cancer free for 1 year.

  • beaverntx
    beaverntx Member Posts: 2,962
    edited December 2020

    Sandy, good news!

    Cindy, wow. I don't miss the snow storms (at various times lived in WVa, Ohio, and Mass.) but this one was a doozy for you. We welcomed rain over night as we are in severe drought conditions here.

    Jackie those kitties are so fortunate to have you there. You just keep on keepin' on!

    Petite, congrats on one year!

    Have a good day, everyone.

  • keywestfan
    keywestfan Member Posts: 367
    edited December 2020

    Sandy, Wonderful news about Bob with the vaccine. I think the question is whether it is just the nursing section of the Admiral is getting the vaccine on the 29th with Independent Living to follow weeks after. I believe that is the situation here at the Mather, though it's all a bit murky. Here, the nursing section, patients and staff are getting it on the 28th. We have been told Independent Living will receive it either a few days after or up to six weeks after, but that we will have only a few days notice. Walgreens is providing it. They will be here for ILiving three days. Two in a row for the first shot, back for one day three weeks later for the second shot. Anyone who misses it - because some residents go to Florida and Arizonaare out of luck. We are staying tuned.

  • keywestfan
    keywestfan Member Posts: 367
    edited December 2020

    PS- Sandy, I was interested in your comment that when you get the vaccine, you and Bob will go to outdoor dining tents again. It raises an interesting question I’ve been thinking about which is in what way will Gil and I change our behavior once we’ve been vaccinated. Facetimed with 12 year old grandson today- with the insane name of Treat- He wants us to then all eat dinner together agai. Will we? Don’t know.

  • wren44
    wren44 Member Posts: 7,967
    edited December 2020

    Petite, Happy one year!

  • chisandy
    chisandy Member Posts: 11,418
    edited December 2020

    Petite, mazel tov on your first "cancerversary!"

    Bob got his first Pfizer shot today, but of course we'll both keep masking/handwashing/distancing until the city's out of the woods. The Admiral is vaccinating the SN and AL staff & patients in their rooms; everyone else, including staff & IL will get theirs in the auditorium. 600 doses were ordered, and Walgreen's will be furnishing them starting the 28th. Once I get my first shot, after 2 weeks we'll feel comfortable about tented dining (the fabric tent at the Barn, heated rooftop patios, etc.)--but still following the masking-between-bites rules even if others slack off. As long as we can get decent carryout & delivery, I'm fine with hibernating (except for medical/dental appts. and mani-pedis to prevent infected ingrown toenails) till we get the all-clear. Bob has no choice but to keep seeing patients in person--I think one of the reasons Little Co. of Mary was willing to vaccinate him was that it realized that unless vaccinated, its attending physicians would be steering clear of the hospital, and it doesn't have enough employed specialists that it can spare from critical care depts.

  • Taco1946
    Taco1946 Member Posts: 630
    edited December 2020

    Petite - Congratulations! It's a big milestone. I will celebrate 4 years in 3 days. One day at a time.

    Our lives have gotten a little more complicated. Ken has been troubled by back and leg pain again for about a week. Bad enough that he is using my cane with a seat for when he tires. I was doing the dog walking until I fell playing golf on Thursday and sprained my ankle. He's making me stay off it, figuring mine will get better and his will have to wait for a cortisone shot. Hate to see him do it but know he's right. And we had to buy another cane for me. Somehow I always visualized our walking into the sunset using canes but no quite so soon.

    Our country club, where we have felt safe to dine indoors at their widely separated tables, has had an outbreak among the staff so don't know when we'll eat there again.

    Be careful everyone.

  • chisandy
    chisandy Member Posts: 11,418
    edited December 2020

    Taco, oh no! Rest up, ice & elevate, and may Ken's knee & back ease as well. The only time Bob eats indoors any more is either at home or in the doctors' lounge at the hospitals--masked, distanced, pre-made meals already wrapped.

    Thurs. after my mani-pedi we will pick up my Xmas present, and then takeout from the Palm (hope they have prime rib). It'll finally be cold enough out for me to wear my mom's mink coat. (My shearling is too big and unwieldy now, despite my having moved the buttons--and altering it would cost almost as much as a new one, as the shoulders & armholes would have to be moved).

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,952
    edited December 2020

    Taco and Petite -- congrats to you both. Let that same feeling come yr. after yr. now. Hmm yes -- that using a cane and sometimes a shower chair although once my arm healed I was able to give that up. Well, at one time those were appliances other people had. I guess I've convinced myself ( at least a little ) that since I'm 6 yrs. younger than Dh I had lots of time. No, turns out it just all depends. I used a cane with my broken arm and the shower chair.

    I was listed as un-steady on my feet. This was in my estimation only partially true. I became un-steady after getting tangled up in a little iron fence. When your feet go up together you are not steady -- to be sure. But my issue was always being in a rush because I had so much to do -- and that rushing is what caused me to tangle with the fence. I've never looked at myself as un-steady -- clumsy and in too much of a hurry were descriptions that fit far better but that is not what went into the medical record. Oh well, I don't have to use a cane or chair now --- but I have learned to slow down a bit. Mindful is the term. I remind myself that I can still get things done -- even if I do it a lot slower. So far, so good.