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I tried melatonin a few years ago (prior to bc diagnosis). I took it one night for sleep and was dizzy the next morning in the shower. Never took it again.
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Daisy-
I was a semi vegetarian for many years. Ate fish, eggs and dairy though and a lot of junk. Since my last surgery, I have become vegan.
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Not sure....no explanation.
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Daisey6
I am a vegetarian. I have no trouble finding things to eat LOL
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Hi ladies! Does anyone take the supplement Ascorbigen? I have been reading about it today and was wondering....I take DIM and wondered if anyone was taking both DIM AND Ascorbigen, I can't quite figure out if you take together?
Thanks for any input!
Lorraine
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heres a link
http://www.designednutritional.com/Info%20sheets/Ascorbigen.html
it kind of sounds like its the same as DIM but I am having a senior moment, or "too much research for one day" brain, so not sure!
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Hi Daisy,
I'm a vegetarian and have been for about 20 years. I do eat dairy, but it's never been a big part of my diet. In the past, I would have milk with my cereal and in my coffee, but that was about it, as far as milk is concerned. I do like cheese, though, and I was having a little everyday for a while. Now, I've pretty much given up cow's milk in favor of rice milk or almond milk, and have cut down on the cheese, too.
Audrey
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I really like the almond milk. I was using soy milk first but then stopped after soy concerns, ER+, etc.
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Audrey, thank you for ideas re coconut milk. I now have to learn how to break a coconut shell. I will also look up grated coconut.
Vivre, I live in the UK and while the treatment was expert and good (my lumpectomy is hardly noticeable), prevention and follow up are not. I was operated on 23 June last year and to date have only had one meeting with oncologist who did not do any tests, just talked to me and dismissed all my concerns. However it was all completely free and I do worry when I read about cases in USA when people cannot afford the treatment they need. I guess, as always, all options have good and bad points.
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Daisy--I'd be interested in a vegetarian thread--in fact, I was also thinking about starting one--mostly to get some ideas for some new recipes. As far as soy goes, I try to stay away from it as much as possible. I never really worried too much about protein--I think I get plenty from things like peanuts/peanut butter, beans, nuts, and seeds. If you try the almond milk and don't like it, you can also try oat milk. I've never had it, and I don't know how widely available it is, as I've never looked for it. I found this website:
http://nutrition.suite101.com/article.cfm/oat_milk
where it shows you how to make your own oat milk--it looks really easy! I almost always end up throwing away my containers of rice and almond milk before they're finished. If I could make my own oat milk in small batches it would probably save me a lot of money!
Accidental Tourist--I am intimidated by the thought of cracking open a coconut (plus, I wouldn't even know how to pick out a good one)! When I was a kid, my father used to buy one from time to time. I remember it being kind of a long process to open it, get the coconut out of the shell, and then peel the brown skin off the coconut. If you can find the grated stuff, it might make life a lot easier!
Audrey
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I was a lacto-ovo vegetarian and since diagnosis have become a semi vegetarian and eat some fish. I would be very interested in a vegetarian thread with ideas for us.
I have also become interested in the Japanese diet because only 6 in 100,000 women in Japan contract breast cancer and their survival rates are better than ours. (based on article in Daily Mail, UK newspaper). That is part of the reason that I added fish to my diet too. Japanese women do have dairy , but only about 1/3 of what American women have. Of course there are factors other than diet that can explain the difference but I just find it interesting and have just bought a Japanese home cook book.
Anyway, I am all for a vegetarian thread!
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Daisy- good to see you again. I miss our banter! Have you tried the rice drink with vanilla? It tastes a lot better and is lower cal than the almond drink.
I just found another great book-"Natural Choices for Women's health" by Dr. Laurie Steelsmith. It is full of lots of great information. It covers everything from diet to hormones, to stress. I am really enjoying it. I know I read too many books, but they are great motivators for me to keep on the straight and narrow!
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I am still researching what to do after I am done with chemo, but so far, I have decided for:
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Organic Green Tea
Organic Garlic I eat with almost everything.
After chemo, I will ask my onc to run blood tests on all vitamins and minerals and if I am deficient in something, I will take supplements on those until I am back to normal. I am looking for a healthy diet rather than supplements. My onc has a specialty in hematology and she is all for tests. She just run some immune test to check if I am ok in case I get in touch with swine virus. I am waiting for the results. This will also tell me if I need selenium. She is not for the estrogen tests but she will do it for me if I want to. She said that it works for men in prostate treatment for nobdy knows why is not working for women when they take tamoxifen. But since I am not taking tamox i just want to check my estrogen levels periodic and she said ok.
Except for soy, I will eat everything - meat, diary, sugar, drink red wine, etc. All in moderation and balance. I am planning to go swimming at least twice a week and starting Pilates and maybe yoga twice a week. I will start slowly since in September, I will have surgery (prophylactic right mastectomy) but after that, I am planning of doing exercise every day. I was always on the slim side (115 lb, 5'3''). This has been my weight for the last 13 years.
My biggest issue is keeping my stress under control. I am a control freak, perfections and I worried about everything. Hey, at least I know my demons!
Working in finance field these days is not a walk in the park either. On top of everything Friday after Taxol 8 I sprained my left ankle and now I can't walk. I feel so bad being such a burden on my family.Sorry for the long post.Please fell free to comment on my plan. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
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Where did you find the Cruciferous Complex? I have been using Green Godess juice from Boat House to suppliment my veggies.
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Lignans
Flax seed and sesame seed are among the highest known sources of lignans. The principal lignan precursor found in flaxseed is secoisolariciresinol diglucoside. Other sources of lignans include cereals (rye, wheat, oat, barley), pumpkin seeds, soybeans, broccoli, beans, and some berries.
Lignan content (μg/100 ml)
301, 129
Sesame seed
39, 348
Sunflower seed
891
Cashew
629
Peanut
94
Poppy seed
10
Breads
Whole grain flaxseed bread
12 474
Multi-grain bread
6744
Rye bread, dark
320
Rye bread, light
301
Wheat bread, whole grain
121
Wheat bread, refined
83
Wheat bread, white
18
Currant/raisin bread
104
Muesli (granola), Jordans, crunchy
764
Muesli (granola), Albert Heijn, basic
343
Muesli (granola), Edah, crunchy
210
Wheat, wholemeal
210
Wheat, white flour
27
Rice, whole grain, boiled
40
Rice, white, boiled
7
Macaroni, white, boiled
15
Vegetables and legumes
Curly kale
2321
Broccoli
1325
White cabbage
787
Brussels sprout
747
Sauerkraut
316
Red cabbage
276
Cauliflower
185
Garlic
536
Leek
78
Onion
36
French bean
273
Sweet pepper, green
172
Sweet pepper, red
113
Carrot
171
Courgette
119
Spinach, frozen
82
Cucumber
67
Tomato
58
Chicory
48
Endive
38
Pea, in jars
34
Potato, Nicola, boiled
20
Potato, Redstar, boiled
10
Lettuce
16
Iceberg lettuce
11
Sweet corn, in jars
7
Beetroot, boiled
3
Mushroom
0
Baked beans in tomato sauce, in jars
37
Brown beans, in jars
26
Fruits
Apricot
450
Strawberry
334
Peach
293
Pear
193
Nectarine
190
Raisins, white
181
Raisins, blue
144
Grapefruit, pink
152
Cherries
147
Kiwi
129
Plum
82
Mandarin
81
Olives, black
80
Olives, green
45
Orange
78
Melon, galia
71
Grapes, blue
60
Grapes, white
42
Pineapple, canned
20
Apple, Elstar
1
Apple, Jonagold
1
Banana
0
Vegetable oil and fats
Olive oil, extra virgin
248
Olive oil, regular
106
Margarine
39
Soya oil
0
Sunflower oil
0
Other
Tomato paste
187
140
Cocoa, powder
60
Chocolate, plain
44
Beverages (wine, beer, tea, coffee)
Lignan content (μg/100 ml)
Red wine, South Africa
91·3
Red wine, France
78·9
Red wine, France
69·1
White wine, France
25·5
White wine, Germany
23·8
White wine, South Africa
15·5
BeerLager, Grolsch
32·2
Lager, Grolsch
32·2
Lager, Heinken
31·6
Lager, Bavaria
18·5
Black tea, Ceylon
77·1
Black tea, English blend
71·2
Black tea, Earl Grey
63·6
Green tea, with lemon flavor
39·2
Coffee, Albert Heijn, Perla Robusta
31·3
Coffee, Kannis and Gunnink
19·6
Coffee, Douwe Egberts
18·7
Grape juice , blue
24·8
Grape juice, white
7·4
Tomato juice
21·2
Orange juice , regular
17·2
Orange juice , with pulp
16·6
Grapefruit juice, yellow
15·9
Grapefruit juice
15·0
Soya milk
37·7
Chocolate milk
2·2
Cola
0·0
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Cruciferous Complex:
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Simvog, for worrying I would recommend The Worry Cure by Robert Leahy. I have just been to one of his lectures and he really is good. He also has a private practice in NYC.
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Although I'm not 100% vegetarian, I would be very interested in a vegetarian thread, especially to share recipes. And thanks, Audrey, for the oat milk recipe link. I've recently bought oat milk, and I think it's far better than either rice or almond milk. But, like those, it spoils quickly.
Lucky, I was also very interested in the eating for your blood type information. I'm A-, and it helped me understand why my O type DH isn't always in tune with my food/menu choices. By the way, I found this website that has the basics for each type: http://www.dadamo.com/
I also wanted to share something about natural hormone replacement that's been talked about here. I had been on HRT (Prempro) for several years. When I was first dx'd, I had a close friend who is on natural hormone replacement ask her doctor who is one of the most esteemed in the field (and I think quoted in Suzanne Somers book, if I'm not mistaken) if I could use natural hormones. His reply was that since I'd had a bc dx, I would have to wait 5 years to use any hormones. Now that I'm finished with traditional treatment and have declined Femara, I'm planning to see him myself -- as soon as I get the results from extensive bloodwork my PCP is doing -- and will share anything I learn. Deanna
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Anom and Deann-both great links! Thanks!
The veggie thread sounds like a good place to share recipes. I do think there is one already though. I am not a vegetarian. I eat most vegetarian, but I do have a little meat. I just eat small proportions and not everyday. I have been reading that one of the reasons vegetarians still get cancer is the fact that they cannot get the B vitamins any other way. This kind of goes along with the end of anom's video, interestly enough. So if you are going the vegetarian route, make sure to get plenty of the B vitamins.
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Although I'm not a vegetarian, I would enjoy hearing about those recipes so feel free to talk about it here--although I understand if you want a separate thread on it too...
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Springtime! Happy Belated Birthday!!!! Yes, another year! Mine is just around the corner. Funny you should ask my girlfriend and I are doing this together and she is blood type A. YOu are "The Cultivator" the first vegetarian, reaps what you sow, sensitive digestive tract, tolerant immune system, adapts well to settled dietary and environmental conditions, responds best to stress with calming action, requires agrarian diet to stay lean and productive. Does that sound like you? Also says a cooperative nature, decent, orderly and law abiding and exhibit self control! Whew, you have it all Springtime! I will read more, have been so busy trying to memorize my own.
Rosemary 44, yes it was avoidance of certain foods because of blood type. I don't feel deprived at all and most of the foods I would have picked anyway. Also I have known for years Ezekial bread was the way to go, since its all sprouted living organisms. What the oncologist told me is because your blood type matches or reconizes the amino acids in harmonious foods it doesn't start a so called war of rejection on them. I have long stopped drinking caffeinated coffee and don't know why I was still drinking decaf with artificial flavorings!!!! No wonder they put me on nexium forever! Apparently 0 positvies have highly acidic systems so we don't need anymore acid. I will let you know how it works out. I don't miss anything at all even the black pepper or avocados!
I enjoyed the bpa information! Good to know.
take care all
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Lucky12,
Now you have me curious. Have you mentioned anything about blood type A+ yet? I fing this all very interesting and logical.
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I found this great article on causes of bc. Read it all. Lots of great info. My favorite tidbit-the one in 8 bc stat is actually for women over 80. For women in their fifties it is 1 in 50! Who is scaring the crap out of us!
http://www.womenshealthnetwork.com/breasthealth/default.aspx
Also, I thought this might be fun if everyone was interested in a natural girls get together.
http://www.healthfreedomexpo.com/09chicago/attend/index.php
It is for June 12-14 and only costs $35 for the weekend. I have tickets to Mary Poppins on Sat. so if anyone wants to come to Chicago, we could have a fun weekend. Let me know if any of you are interested. I can find hotel rooms near me in the burbs if you want to share rooms. It is lots cheaper than the city and we take the train into Chicago to sightsee. I am a great tour guide, as long as you like to walk!
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Hi Susers, yes the blood typing seemed very logical to me too. I thought I fit the description too for my blood type, which is O. I am going to Brownstein's office today for my Meyer cocktail I am going to quiz the nurses about it. Also I figured I can try it if I feel better great! So far so good!
That whole paragraph I wrote for Springtime was about a type A blood. They just type O, A, B, AB no positive, negative.
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Thanks for the links Vivre! I would love to come to Chicago, but I'm doing the Relay for Life that weekend! Maybe another time!!!!!!!!
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Lucky, I'll be danged, that does sound like me! Can you supply the name of the book again?
I have also found, recently, Hazlenut milk and (Deanna once mentioned prior) Oat milk. Didn't try them yet. I swear I've purchesed every type of alternative milk looking for the "right" one for me!!! These are all in boxes "off the shelf". I liked the refrigerated Almond milk from blue Diamond, but it is not close by!!!
Spring...
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Have any of you ever tried "Chews4Health?" I'm considering this supplement, but wanted to see if ya'll knew anything about it. Thanks and take care of yourselves... Lisa
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What is it?
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Hi ladies.. Happy Spring!
I see that most, if not all of you are hormone + BC. I am not. I am Her2+
I know what I hear, here.. about things to take and not to take. So much does not apply to her2+ only BC.
I would LOVE to hear what you have to say about supplements.
I take Curcumin...Multi..D... all the B's... I do eat read meat 4 times a month.. and I do eat some dairy.. 4 times a month.... I have my wine... ( as not Er+ and had a mast).. Fish oil..
Anyway.. what can you show me. You all sound so involved in your healing as I am. I like what I hear here, in KC.. but Love Love Love to hear your thoughts on Her2+ and after Cancer...
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