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  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 24,938
    edited January 2015

    Thank you from America's Dairyland! ThumbsUp

  • jelson
    jelson Member Posts: 622
    edited January 2015

    seriously, this has my head spinning. not to look for the leanest beef - to actually buy beef!, not to cut the remaining fat from my skinless/boneless (tasteless)chicken breasts, not to look for 0 percent cottage cheese and yogurt, to go back to 2 percent milk? whole milk? ( I was thinking maybe that is a reason so many are vitamin d deficient even if they drink milk, if vitamin d is fat soluble, then maybe there isn't much in the lower fat milks?) anyway, I haven't made changes yet. I did come from a margarine eating family, when my brother moved to Wisconsin in the 60's to go school, he and his wife had to buy white margarine and mix the red dot in to make it yellow? what kind of a barbaric place was this, Wisconsin>>> anyway, my husband is a butter eater and I made the switch to butter although I called my in-laws, Mr and Mrs Cholesterol because they put butter on everything and ate a lot of fatty stuff...who knew, they were right all along. I am waiting on an update to the Aitkins Diet and another book about athletic low-carbohydrate diets - for my son. omg - cheese!!!!!

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,833
    edited January 2015


    Eggs, butter and cheese!!!  Love it.   Jelson, you may also want to check out some books on Paleo Diet.

    I particularly like:  Well Fed: Paleo recipes for people who love to eat  by Melissa Joulwan

  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 24,938
    edited January 2015

    Once upon a time, margarine was illegal in Wisconsin and people went to Illinois to buy it.  Why?? 

    My mom remembers food rationing in NY during WWII and white margarine with the color packet.

  • moonflwr912
    moonflwr912 Member Posts: 5,938
    edited January 2015

    It was my job to mix the little dot into the margarine! LOL. It was outlawed to sell yellow margarine in WI to prevent stores from selling margarine in place of butter to protect consumers. That was the story. But it also was to save farms.

  • minustwo
    minustwo Member Posts: 13,357
    edited January 2015

    My Mother talked about rationing during WWII. She must have given up something else to keep eating butter. My aunt & uncle both switched to margarine. They ate SPAM too and my Mother would never serve it. My Dad had been in all the meat packing plants so we weren't allowed to order hamburgers in 50's. But hot dogs were OK!! That is funny considering.

    Speaking of WWII, I'm reading the English Patient. It was hard to get into but now it's humming along & I want to know what happens. I never saw the movie. For those of you who haven't read it, I'll do a summary later.

  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 24,938
    edited January 2015

    Thanks, Monica, that was mom's job too.  She did not like that chore.

    I meant why cross state lines to buy margarine?  Butter is so good!

  • moonflwr912
    moonflwr912 Member Posts: 5,938
    edited January 2015

    It was much cheaper! We were a family of 10 so we would visit relatives in Chicago every month and buy it.

  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 582
    edited January 2015

    We weren't allowed to buy yellow margarine in Quebec in the 50s either - it was to protect the dairy farmers - we used to go to Ontario to buy the marg with the "dot" we took turns (there were three of us) colouring the margarine - I never liked it and to this day eat only butter and 2% milk, etc. so far my bones have held up well under the onslaught of cancer treatments. As for diet influencing cancer, well I was going to get it anyway (my birthmother died from mets when she was 40 - a fact I wasn't made aware of till I was halfway through chemo in "08). Moderation in all things is what I aim for.....

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,701
    edited January 2015

    I have been reading a lot but my fiction choices have turned out to be 'ho hum' and I don't think anyone else would be very interested in the regional books I've been reading (the history of Germans from Russian in North Dakota being my lasted example. I did get a rather sweet autobiography for Christmas, Martin Short's I Must Say...My Life As A Humble Comedy Legend.

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,833
    edited January 2015


    Almost finished with Joan Didion's The Year of Magical Thinking.  Quite interesting look at grief.  That was a really rough year for her.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,701
    edited January 2015

    I got this from Facebook. Sounds like some pretty interesting reading.

    A Mighty Girl

    "The Nazis called them 'Night Witches' because the whooshing noise their plywood and canvas airplanes made reminded the Germans of the sound of a witch’s brooms...tick. The Russian women who piloted those planes, onetime crop dusters, took it as a compliment. In 30,000 missions over four years, they dumped 23,000 tons of bombs on the German invaders, ultimately helping to chase them back to Berlin. Any German pilot who downed a “witch” was awarded an Iron Cross.

    These young heroines, all volunteers and most in their teens and early 20s, became legends of World War II but are now largely forgotten. Flying only in the dark, they had no parachutes, guns, radios or radar, only maps and compasses. If hit by tracer bullets, their planes would burn like sheets of paper."

    So begins a NY Times tribute to one of the most famous "Night Witches," Nadezhda Popova, who flew 852 missions during the war, including 18 in a single night. She passed away in 2013 at the age of 91. To read about Popova's incredible life story and learn more about these largely forgotten heroines of WWII, visit http://nyti.ms/JbnOMC

    While there aren't any books available for young readers about these courageous women, there are several books for older readers about the role of Russian women combat pilots during WWII including "Flying for Her Country: The American and Soviet Women Military Pilots of World War II" (http://amzn.to/1mTMad9), "Night Witches: The Amazing Story Of Russia's Women Pilots in World War II" (http://amzn.to/15qK7JD), "Wings, Women, and War: Soviet Airwomen in World War II Combat" (http://amzn.to/1fyPOs8), "A Dance with Death: Soviet Airwomen in World War II" (http://amzn.to/1jJb79N), "Red Sky, Black Death: A Soviet Woman Pilot's Memoir of the Eastern Front" (http://amzn.to/NhxvM4).

    For more true stories of courageous women heroes of WWII, check out the inspiring book for ages 13 and up "Women Heroes of World War II: 26 Stories of Espionage, Sabotage, Resistance, and Rescue" at http://www.amightygirl.com/women-heroes-of-world-war-ii

    For an excellent book for ages 8 to 12 about the WASPs, the American women flyers of WWII, check out "Yankee Doodle Gals: Women Pilots of World War II" at http://www.amightygirl.com/yankee-doodle-gals

    For two highly recommended recent novels, both for ages 13 and up, about women resistance fighters of WWII, check out "Code Name Verity" (http://www.amightygirl.com/code-name-verity) and "Rose Under Fire" (http://www.amightygirl.com/rose-under-fire).

    For stories for all ages about girls and women living through the WWII period, visit our "WWII / Holocaust" section at http://www.amightygirl.com/…/history-biograp…/history-world…

    And, to introduce your kids to more famous female flyers like Amelia Earhart, Bessie Coleman, and Harriet Quimby, visit A Mighty Girl's "Planes" section at http://www.amightygirl.com/…/general-intere…/transportation…


     

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,833
    edited January 2015


    Sounds really interesting!!

  • hopeful82014
    hopeful82014 Member Posts: 887
    edited January 2015

    Thanks for the additional suggestions on the pilots, Ruth. Aviation runs through my veins, so I'll enjoy those, I'm sure.

    I'm just finishing 'Eating Pomegranates', which is autobiographical - the story of an English woman dealing w/BRCA-related bc. I don't find her a particularly sympathetic character but one chapter, when her family goes to visit her father on holiday, and some of her musings on the loss of a mother, were hauntingly beautiful.

    It's not, however, a book I probably could have read when I was first dx.

    Another that I found worthwhile was 'Lopsided' by Meredith Norton. It's really a shame it's her only work; she had a great 'voice' and her characters truly jumped off the pages. Even though I'm sure she was an annoying wife, daughter, sister, best friend, she would have been something else to know and I'm certain would have developed into quite a powerhouse as an author.

    And yes, these both deal with breast cancer so are not totally escapist but their tales are very compelling as stories and I enjoyed reading them. I would have read anything else Norton had written - fiction, non-fiction, grocery lists!

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,833
    edited January 2015

    Hopeful, I an intrigued by your wonderful review of Lop-sided. Happy to say my library has it, so I will be reading it soon.

    Currently reading Lisa Scottoline's latest: Betrayed. Back to one of my mystery series. And one of the characters has BC! OMG!

  • hopeful82014
    hopeful82014 Member Posts: 887
    edited January 2015

    Let me know what you think of both of them, Glennie; I'll be curious to see if you 'Lopsided' as much as I did. Scottoline's a long-time reliable - great to travel with as her books are generally lengthy. ;)

    Are you a fan of Margaret Maron? She's entirely different than LS, of course, but I love her characters. There's only one of hers I regret reading; it dealt with the death penalty and, while sensitively crafted and well-written, I've never been able to shake the images it created. Can't recall the title - maybe I'm suppressing it. Otherwise, she's another one that I'll pounce on with delight every time.

    And, I, too, am hugely reliant on the library and am fortunate to have a good one nearby.


  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,833
    edited January 2015

    I have not read Margaret Maron. Will have to add her to my list.

  • hopeful82014
    hopeful82014 Member Posts: 887
    edited January 2015

    Glennie, if you like her you'll have quite a long list of titles to look forward to. She has 2 or 3 different sets of characters and it makes most sense to read them in order if possible, as there's a lot of development in the relationships through the years. Enjoy!

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,833
    edited January 2015

    I'm terribly OCD with books,, I have to read them in order!!

  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 24,938
    edited January 2015

    LOL glennie, me too!

    Check out the "Wisconsin Writer's Quilt".  It was made as a fundraiser for the Reedsburg Public Library but they decided it was too beautiful, and too meaningful, to auction or raffle. 

    http://www.wiscnews.com/reedsburgtimespress/news/local/article_184802cc-b657-5020-9cda-b27550936523.html

    edit to add another link

    http://www.friendsreedsburglibrary.org/wisconsin-writers-quilt-project.html

  • jelson
    jelson Member Posts: 622
    edited January 2015

    thanks for sharing the Wisconsin Writers Quilt, Badger - I just sent the second link to my quilting friends.

  • hopeful82014
    hopeful82014 Member Posts: 887
    edited January 2015

    Badger, the quilt is lovely!

  • minustwo
    minustwo Member Posts: 13,357
    edited January 2015

    Oh - Margaret Maron. I hate it when I finish one of her books & have to wait for the next one. Love the stories about Judge Deborah Knott's North Carolina extended life & growing family. Start with Bootlegger's Daughter if you can find it. She's one I've saved

    Currently reading Susan Wittig Albert, Wormwood. She's another one that you'll love if you like Maron. The protagonist left a big city law firm to open an herb shop in small town (hill country) Texas. I think Thyme of Death was the first of the China Bayles series. Albert herself earned a PhD at U Cal Berkley, & taught English before ending up as a VP there. And then she left to write & grow flowers & herbs.

    And of course - if you like those you'll like Louise Penny with her French Canadian series about Armand Gamache of the Surete du Quebec and the Village of Three Pines. I think her first one is Still Life.

    Badger - love the quilt. Thanks for posting.

  • hopeful82014
    hopeful82014 Member Posts: 887
    edited January 2015

    Minus - I'm not familiar with Louise Penny - thanks for the suggestion! I do enjoy SW Albert's books, especially since they've changed the cover art. (The early editions usually had a reptile somewhere in the art, which creeped me out.) She's someone who certainly managed a major career shift and created a very different life for herself and I admire that greatly. Maybe even envy it just a tiny bit...

    Are you familiar with Vicky Delany? She's another Canadian author with a series set in a small town in the mountains of B.C. Her characters are likable and human. Another one best read from the beginning, although not a necessity. She's also written a few suspense novels that I've enjoyed although some have a tendency to keep me reading far too late into the night.

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,833
    edited January 2015


    Finished Lisa Scottoline's Betrayed.  A few interesting twists in there,, especially with Personal stuff, if you've read the characters from the beginning of the series.  Judy Carrier has quite the adventure in this one.

    Forgot who recommended Stephen White to me,,, But I got his first 3 books from Abebooks and I'm starting the first one now.

  • minustwo
    minustwo Member Posts: 13,357
    edited January 2015

    Glennie - I'm a big Stephen White fan. Hope you enjoy. I'll have to get the Scottoline.

    Hopeful - I haven't heard of Delaney but will definitely put her on my list. It will be interesting to see how you compare the two Canadian authors after you read Penny. Thanks.

  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 24,938
    edited January 2015

    Started Anne Rice's new book Prince Lestat and didn't like it so returned it to the library. 

    Having a girls day out with mom today and Barnes & Noble is one of our planned stops.

    Love wandering the bookstore though I don't usually buy unless it's a bargain book.

    I could spend all my take-home pay on books... thank goodness for the public library! ♥

  • sandra4611
    sandra4611 Member Posts: 1,750
    edited January 2015

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  • hopeful82014
    hopeful82014 Member Posts: 887
    edited January 2015
    I've just looked up L. Penny on the library's site and it looks like she's got a strong following, with a long list of 'holds' on every copy of every title. I'm surprised I've not stumbled onto her before but am looking forward to reading her works.
  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,833
    edited January 2015


    Yesterday was Warren Zevon's birthday!!  I love his music.

    Have you read his biography?  "I'll sleep when I'm dead."   It's great.  written by ex-wife Crystal with his permission to tell everything, "warts and all".  HIghly recommended!!!  Great inside look at the man and his life, and general rock-n-roll when he was on the rise.