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GRRRRRRRRR I HATE LE..........

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  • Marple
    Marple Member Posts: 10,154
    edited April 2012

    ((((Kira)))) other than unmentionable expletives......I'm at a loss for words.

  • sisterinspirit
    sisterinspirit Member Posts: 29
    edited April 2012

    Ah, Kira!

    That totally sucks!  I just wonder if this is a sign that you are meant to evolve to a higher place where you can share your skills, knowledge, wisdom and compassion with a broader audience that will appreciate and benefit from what you have to offer.  You ROCK Kira, in so many ways!  We are all blessed to have you on these boards.

    Deb

  • Kate33
    Kate33 Member Posts: 1,936
    edited April 2012

    Kira- So sorry about your job and your mom.  I hope she's doing o.k.  Wish you could find a paying job helping those with LE as it seems like it's your passion.  How about blogging about it?  It seems like there's a definite need for information out there not only for those that have it but for others on how to avoid it.  I know you'd have a lot of followers immediately!

  • BeckySharp
    BeckySharp Member Posts: 465
    edited April 2012

    Kira--Don't you dare fade away because WE WILL FIND YOU.  Hopefully soon you will find a new position that says this was all for the best!  Will keep you in my thoughts.  Becky

  • hugz4u
    hugz4u Member Posts: 1,818
    edited April 2012

    Oh Kira,  How awful losing your job. grrrrr I  really hope your avenues will open up to be even better than ever. 

    Yup, LE sucks but their is an upside to it. (An upside to LE?) Communicating with understanding women in your shoes. We feel for eachother when we fall and you have fallen bad.

    I want you to know that your steadfastness in helping us LEers never goes unoticed.  What would we do with out you LE pioneers that guide us when ever we need you. You are always their ready to pitch in.  Take care, I am wishing the best for you.  Eat lots of Brownies, it helps!

  • kira
    kira Member Posts: 659
    edited April 2012

    Thanks for the wonderful posts. They mean so much to me.

    I'd emailed Binney that I was at my limit, and she sent me this link on workplace bullying:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workplace_bullying

    And, darn, if that wasn't what was going on. The radiation therapists had been praying for me--that he'd leave me alone--that's how bad it was.

    I'm all signed up to take my Klose Training in June, so I'll keep working on learning and teaching about LE. 

    My former officemate, a psychologist called, and she said I provoked a "narcissistic rage" and ironicially, I was opening an email from her that said she thought he is dangerous, when he entered my office...

    Here's the good news: my mother's surgery went well, and she should be rehabbing at home in a couple of days. My father is a retired lawyer, and he called from my mother's hospital room and told me what to write to my former employers. 

    Oh, and my med onc, who I'd seen for a routine check last week had told me to move on. It's a small medical community, and she was aware of what he's like. 

    Kira--on sabbatical

  • Marple
    Marple Member Posts: 10,154
    edited April 2012

    To Kira on sabbatical~(((((((((((((Kira)))))))))))  I think so long as I send hugs I'll just be able to keep my (gutter) mouth shut.

  • kira
    kira Member Posts: 659
    edited April 2012

    Marple: my LE therapist called as I walked in the door to reschedule, as her daughter is sick and I let out a string of expletives,  and said "you'd think I worked on the docks" and she said it was all appropriate, and she once worked for someone who threw staplers at her head, and she wants me to work in LE....

    Total potty mouth today.

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 765
    edited April 2012

    Kira, you deserve to take a little time off. I have just started back to work after being out of work for 18 months. I am sure that something better will come along.

    Sheila 

  • Kay_G
    Kay_G Member Posts: 1,914
    edited April 2012

    Oh Kira, I absolutely concur with what everyone else has said. Sending you virtual hugs.

  • carol57
    carol57 Member Posts: 1,550
    edited April 2012

    If total potty mouth in any way makes you feel better...go for it!

  • minustwo
    minustwo Member Posts: 13,422
    edited April 2012

    Oh Kira:  Of all things you didn't need was a total jerk for a boss.  But I know it's scary w/o a job.  Hope you can take the time to access which direction you want to follow.

    Binny:  Thanks for the article about the use of gauntlets.  I do think the PT will be receptive since this is a major hospital Wound Care & LE center.  Interestingly it's also where they have a barometric chamber for decompression & right next to the life flight training center.

    I have no idea how much Medicare will pay for the Belisse, but the Wear Ease didn't work for me and I'm really tired of "T" back sports bras that show at the neck of all my clothes.  I'm going for a fittint next week & will get more info.

    PT report - learned 8 or 9 MLD moves today & got kinesio taped.  I'm not sure how that will work since my skin can't tolerate many types of tape - but I told her to go ahead & try.   I'm to practive for the next week & we'll re-access.

     FYI - my PS rolled his eyes when I said I had been diagnosed with LE.  But that was only after I had told him about continuing pain and he essentially said - so what...welcome to the new world. Jerks.  I'm hoping that getting LE under control will quiet the pain & allow me to get back to the gym

    Thanks to everyone else for your valuable info.

  • olearca
    olearca Member Posts: 65
    edited April 2012

    Oh ((((KIRA))))

    Sabatical!  yes, that's the best way to look at it. Reprieve.  Relief.  Saving your sanity.Getting out of an abusive relationship.  Survival.

    You will move toward new things, peace, sanity, health.  We will be here to support you - just as you are ALWAYS here to support us. 

    I dont' know what else to say except go for that walk with your beloved dog and eat chocolate and curse away.  Maybe throwing a few staplers was necessary before you left!!

  • Marple
    Marple Member Posts: 10,154
    edited April 2012

    I made breakfast to share.

  • carol57
    carol57 Member Posts: 1,550
    edited April 2012

    Marple, yummmmy!  Who knew breakfast could be so good for you!

  • KS1
    KS1 Member Posts: 161
    edited April 2012

    Hi Kira,  I am just appalled by your news.  From what you have described over the past 18 months, your work environment has been toxic/insane.  Just thinking about the crap your were subjected to when you broke you LE wrist makes me want to spit (or worse).

    ARGGHGHGHG.  KS1

  • cookiegal
    cookiegal Member Posts: 527
    edited April 2012

    god Kira hugs and cookies......

    there was an article that explains why workplace bullying happens specifically to highly competent women....

    I am glad you are safe from the rage! 

    quick healing for mom! 

  • kira
    kira Member Posts: 659
    edited April 2012

    Yeah, these are the same people who called me at the hand surgeon's office and demanded I come to work immediately.

    I've been networking like crazy, and will work really hard at slowing down and smelling roses, and being free from abuse.

    My oncologist, head of the largest hospital system in the state's breast oncology, had advised me to quit last week, and she sent an email of support when I told her. Hmm. Like word doesn't get around in small medical communities.

    I'd sent emails, per my dad the lawyer, that I was terminated, ASAP. The evil rad onc sent an email tody, that I had resigned, but luckily, as you well know, I type A LOT, and I have emails galore to support and document the firing. He'll pay some severance, and I will not respond to him.

    And, I'm back on board at the health centers, so I won't climb the walls: it's per diem, but they're really sweet even if I'm not bilingual.

    And, I'll teach at the med school still: my co-teacher sent a message that a new door will open, just don't let it be held by a jerk!

    And, Klose training in June, so I'll go for the whole CLT course.

    Ironically, there was a recent article about harrassment in the medical workforce and how common it is. I've been in practice for 25 years, and I've never come across anything like this.

    My mother is coming home tomorrow, to my 82 year old dad, and she wants to have people over, but she also wants him to set up a comode. I said no visitors if you can't walk to the bathroom.

    I feel wound like a spring, so I'll have to exercise to work it off, and do a lot of deep breathing.

    You guys are the best, and I appreciate this so much.

    Kira

  • cookiegal
    cookiegal Member Posts: 527
    edited April 2012

    you sound like you are doing well......

    I remember a co-worker asking, why did he go after the good people?

    It's ok if you need a little healing time 

  • Kate33
    Kate33 Member Posts: 1,936
    edited April 2012

    May I ask you ladies something?  What determines if you have to wrap or not?  The first PT never mentioned it.  The second, Jane, just ask if I ever had and I told her I hadn't.  Does wrapping have to do with what stage LE you are or does everyone have to?  

  • kira
    kira Member Posts: 659
    edited April 2012

    Cookie: they go after the worthy adversaries, IMO. And in my case, if I didn't cave and grovel, he escalated into a rage. But I have seen where people who are easily threatened will go after those who threaten them--typically the good people.

    Ironically, I'd called a woman whose husband is demented and was hollering, and I asked her if she was safe at home, was she being abused, and then all hell broke loose in my office.  And that was the day before he fired me (oh, I forgot, I resigned--not.)

    Kate:  Wrapping is a tool to reduce swelling. It's a good tool to know for flares. In latency stage, wrapping is rarely needed, as there's little or no volume increase. In stage 1 or 2 it's typically used. Then, some women don't swell at night, and others do. I do, so I wrap.

    Also, when I doubt, ask Binney, she can explain it far better than I can.

    Kira

  • hugz4u
    hugz4u Member Posts: 1,818
    edited April 2012

    Kira: I vote that you start a thread on your escapades with your evil adversary. We are all following your woes and  would love to support you on this thread. It would be healing as you would be journaling it. How about listing something like, DR. EVIL RIZES HIS UGLY HEAD". Seeing that LE is just as evil this would be an appropiate thread as the two are so much alike.

  • sisterinspirit
    sisterinspirit Member Posts: 29
    edited April 2012

    Kira,

    That's so exciting about the Klose training!  Can't wait to hear your report! 

    Deb

  • kira
    kira Member Posts: 659
    edited April 2012

    The Klose training is a LONG week, and I'd just signed up for upper extremity, but I'll go for the whole CLT

    I heard from the lovely rad onc who the evil rad onc had fired earlier this year: he was the focus of evil one's anger, and he always responded like a true gentleman. 

    The business of sending me an email that the evil one's "recollection" is that I resigned is ridiculous. I've never in my life collected unemployment, but if I don't have a job, I'll go for it.

    Hugs--I'm hoping that as time passes, this horrible event, and the nastiness that led up to it will become less of a central force in my life. 

    Binney's take, as I talked her ear off yesterday, was that evil one really doesn't care about the patients, and I care deeply, and he'll never, ever get that. My co-teacher, a psychologist, got it immediately.

    Binney's other wonderful insight is that change is hard, and painful. And I get frantic if I don't know the plan immediately--something to work on.

    The final stress: my mother insisted on coming home today, I talked to my 82 year old father until I was blue in the face about how it wasn't safe, and then, my mother fell in the hallway, while walking with two nurses, and thankfully nothing was broken, but she understands that she needs to rehab in a facility that can take care of her. She's barely two days post op. The calls back and forth from California were heartbreaking. I think a trip is in my future. Soon.

    The support I've gotten on this board means so much to me, and as I heard in a pm: rejection hurts, even from people we don't like.

    As Binney says--onward!

    One last thing: for Klose training, by default, the LE arm is the left--my real LE arm--and I've spoken to the instructor that I won't let trainees wrap it. She agrees and will closely monitor the situation.

    And, maybe once I'm trained, my MLD won't be so cursory.....

    Kira

  • Galsal
    Galsal Member Posts: 754
    edited April 2012

    Kira, what a blessing you've been handed in leaving your prior position!  Your future is wide open now and you can forge to where you want to be, not to just where you have to be!  No doubt you're incredibly thankful Mom saw the light about rehab. 

  • Galsal
    Galsal Member Posts: 754
    edited April 2012

    Happy to say am finally out of the expand-a-binder and into a Caromed bra-vest. The arm is back down in measurement and the trunk is down more to a mild level.

  • carol57
    carol57 Member Posts: 1,550
    edited April 2012

    Kira, Sounds like you have a plan!  Good for you, and I am certain that your Klose instructor and the other learners will be delighted to have you in the group, because you can offer insights they otherwise would never know about. I know your job there will be to listen and learn, but I'm itching with excitement to think of the wonderful mutual exchange of information that can take place. Like...how you can give suggestions on dealing with surgeons, oncs, etc. who need a nudge to believe LE is the cause of their patients' symptoms! And how and how hard the CLTs should encourage their patients to push back when nurses don't want to respect arm precautions.

    Sorry your mom had to learn patience the hard way, but it's of course great she's getting the rehab care she needs.

    Galsal...great! Every centimeter of progress is a big win.

    Carol 

  • hugz4u
    hugz4u Member Posts: 1,818
    edited April 2012

    Kira, I am thinking of your kindheartness in helping us girls. It looks like you might be able to move ahead. You have so many fine plans to look forward too. You just might be able to thank that Devil boss one day for "firing" I mean resigning because I see  virtual gold stars and you standing on a platform shining brightly enjoying a ever better life ahead. No grrrr's on this virtual vision I see!  I can't wait to hear your Klose experiences. It will be like we are in class too, but without the homework.

     Your mom and my mom could be best friends because both do exactly oposite to what the doctors and their families want them to do.  I think that is why they are so fiesty and live so long, they have their own ways and you can't change them much. By the way, you have a keeper husband, he is great to help you with mom. Please don't trade him in.

    Just a side note here.  I am hoping you are out enjoying spring with your 4 legged friend getting a bit of fresh air. It is so good for our mental health.

  • kira
    kira Member Posts: 659
    edited April 2012

    Hugz,

    Thank you! I called my DH to say that I'd been fired, and his office is a few miles away, and he's incredibly mild mannered/conflict avoidant, but he asked if I wanted him to come over immediately. I knew that would escalate the situation, so I told him to stay put.

    My mother was all set to go to rehab, and she went into rapid atrial fibrillation yesterday, and I talked to the cardiologist, and now she's in for another day or two to stabilize that situation. Likely the best thing, as she was in no place to start rehab yet. Again, another day of frantic calls from either coast. And my father is showing his age.

    And, last night I was at the symphony, ran into a long time colleague and was telling him the tale, no names mentioned--he works in medical ethics (irony allert)--and he asked for the name, and his wife knows the family! So, small state, I need to be careful.

    My dog went for her annual at the vet, and the vet couldn't stop saying what a great dog she is: I think they deal with a lot of people who don't control their dogs, as a great dane wandered the waiting room.....She was pooped from her shots.

    So, trying to put order into my life--really hard when you lose external structure,

    On the LE front: last night, I wore the Tribute, as we got home late, and it worked well. 

    Go figure. I wrapped over the hand with a 6 cm short stretch as was suggested by a PT.

    I have a new one I haven't tried yet, so I'll try that one soon. Maybe, just maybe, I can take a few days a week break from wrapping.

    Kira

    And I saw my LE therapist yesterday, whose unfailing kindness has gotten me through so much.

  • carol57
    carol57 Member Posts: 1,550
    edited April 2012

    Kira, I hope you were able to forget everything through some wonderful music at the symphony!  Fabulous music can be such great therapy!