Bone Mets Thread

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  • luckylegs64
    luckylegs64 Member Posts: 7
    edited November 2017

    Hi All,

    I’ve recently been Dx with bone mets and the recommended trearment is Verzinio. Is anyone familiar with this? It will be used in conjunction with Faslodex. I was previously on AI’s; which obviously failed

    Thanks for any help with my fact gathering!


  • Jeenee
    Jeenee Member Posts: 91
    edited November 2017

    Zarovka - Thanks so much for the encouragement.

    Using ibuprofen, heat and thinking about other solutions vs. opiods. I have a script but prefer not to take. Anyone using prescription marijuana? I'm thinking of asking about it today. Might be easier on my digestive system and could possibly help me sleep.

    I made it to today. Starting chemo. Like the first day of school, Lol!

    Thanks for getting me here.

    -JeeNee



  • Jeenee
    Jeenee Member Posts: 91
    edited November 2017

    I had a progression on Faslodex several years ago. Now the mutation. My Med Onc did genetic testing on my cancer cells to get this information.

    - Jee Nee

  • Jeenee
    Jeenee Member Posts: 91
    edited November 2017

    Thanks bigbhome and everyone for your support. I have heard of meloxicam from my primary care. If the ibuprofen doesn't keep up, I will ask about that. Heat with ibuprofen seems to be helping. Early morning is the hardest time. I'm off to the hot shower and then to the hospital for treatment. Will let you all know how it goes.

    - Jee Nee

  • Leapfrog
    Leapfrog Member Posts: 406
    edited November 2017

    Jeenee...I have a Sunbeam heating pad. In fact I have two. It's a flat mat that you put under your back to lie on, lie a tiny electric blanket, and you hardly know it's there in so far as it doesn't feel lumpy under you like heat packs do and because it's electric you don't have to keep heating it up. It's been an absolute boon for me and, with winter coming for you, I'm sure it would be very useful and soothing. I'm so sorry you have such pain. As far as narcotics go, it's your decision entirely, but recently my pain reached a new high and I had to give in and see my oncologist for help. He told me that I'm not helping myself by trying to be a hero and that there's no medal for coping with severe pain without help. At the time he gave me Lyrica but my pain wasn't nerve pain, it was pain from the mets so Lyrica didn't help. He prescribed a 72 hour Fentanyl patch and it's helped me a lot. The pain was making me immobile which lowered my quality of life too much. I'm also a very positive thinker but pain does things to your brain. Once my pain level decreased a little, my life improved. This is just my opinion but I can highly recommend the Sunbeam heating pad. I've tried to include a link so you can see what it looks like but it doesn't come across, unfortunately.

  • Milaandra
    Milaandra Member Posts: 154
    edited November 2017

    Aurora, are they sure? Is there a second test they can do, like an ultrasound?

    Sucks to get progression news.

    Stupid cancer!

  • Jeenee
    Jeenee Member Posts: 91
    edited November 2017

    I’m so disappointed. No treatment today. Platelet count low.

  • nkb
    nkb Member Posts: 1,561
    edited November 2017

    Luckylegs- Verzenio is Abemaciclib which is a CDK4/6 inhibitor. It can be used as a single agent or with an anti-estrogen like Faslodex or letrozole etc. It is the newest one approved and has some differences from the other two (Ibrance (Palbociclib) and Kisqali (ribociclib). You could look at the thread on BCO it has not been active lately-but, I suspect more and more people will be trying this drug. You could start your own new thread and see if you can find people that were in one of the studies of it or are starting it as well. Sounds like a very promising drug!

  • Milaandra
    Milaandra Member Posts: 154
    edited November 2017

    Photo from our holiday in the Maldives.

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  • Milaandra
    Milaandra Member Posts: 154
    edited November 2017

    Who knew that Huey Lewis wrote the theme song for metastatic breast cancer patients...

    I want a new drug

    One that won't make me sick

    One that won't make me crash my car

    Or make me feel three feet thick.

    I want a new drug

    One that won't hurt my head

    One that won't make my mouth too dry

    Or make my eyes too red

    One that won't make me nervous

    Wondering what to do...

    SillyHeart

  • AnimalCrackers
    AnimalCrackers Member Posts: 542
    edited November 2017

    Ha!  Well done Milaandra!!!  That should be the MBC theme song.  Maybe we can even tweak the lyrics...

  • Lita57
    Lita57 Member Posts: 2,338
    edited November 2017

    jeenee, i take m3dical marijuana for my pain...tincturees and edibles, it does help. Also helpswith sleep.

    L


  • Jaylea
    Jaylea Member Posts: 440
    edited November 2017

    Kathleen, beautiful picture to hold when you need those mental holidays.

    Aurora, good luck tomorrow. Keep us posted on next steps.

    Aww, Jeenee, so disappointing not to have treatment. Hope those platelets go up and treatment is rescheduled toot sweet.

    Lita, always great to hear from you. Hope you're having a good night. I got my medical cannabis card and bought some CBD tincture. I have heard that high THC compounds are contra to ER+ bc. But I talked it over with my MO who said basically do what you want, there's no hard and fast evidence either way, and if it helps with pain, sleep, appetite, got for it.

  • Wendy3
    Wendy3 Member Posts: 872
    edited November 2017

    Jeenee wanted to just let you know (you may already know this) I drink chaga and that has helped keep my platelets and other blood values high I was told because of the natural beta glucan in it. Maybe that could help if you haven't tried it already.

    I also wanted to ask about you comment yesterday regarding the letrozole. Do you know the gene mutation that can cause this issue

  • Jeenee
    Jeenee Member Posts: 91
    edited November 2017

    gonna try it Lita. thanks

  • Jeenee
    Jeenee Member Posts: 91
    edited November 2017

    what is chaga? where do i get it?

  • Jeenee
    Jeenee Member Posts: 91
    edited November 2017

    Wendy - I dont know the name of the mutation. I can try to find it in my blood results but I think it was included in a genetic testing report that was read by my Oncologist only.

  • Jeenee
    Jeenee Member Posts: 91
    edited November 2017

    I'm taking the oxycodone. Gave in. Need relief now. So sad. Tumor markers are 80 (CA-15-3) up from 54. Liver enlarged. Right hip and lumbar spine progression and pleural space too. Too much news in one day. Hoping for platelet increase and treatment next week. Onc will do something, one way or another - if cant do eribulin. Ladies, I need some good jokes ;-) please.

  • Jeenee
    Jeenee Member Posts: 91
    edited November 2017

    Jaylea - thanks for the encouragement. It helps to be heard. Heart

  • Jeenee
    Jeenee Member Posts: 91
    edited November 2017

    I'm wit.h you Milandra. I think we need the Mary Jane.

  • Jeenee
    Jeenee Member Posts: 91
    edited November 2017

    I'll try if you'll try.

  • Wendy3
    Wendy3 Member Posts: 872
    edited November 2017

    Jeenee you can get chaga mushrooms dried in a powder, dried in big chunks (what I use) or capsules.

    It available at every health food store around here. You could also google what else has Beta Glucan in it and eat that as well. I buy the big chunks and seep in in my slow cooker on low for eight hours then mason jars and fridge and I drink two glasses a day. My oncologist told me yesterday my blood levels were better than her own. I hope you get that treatment next week😊 Also I'm a big fan of Mary Jane as well.


  • workingmom10
    workingmom10 Member Posts: 25
    edited November 2017

    I am 1 year from my initial MBC diagnosis after bone (spine, left rib, and both hips) and lymph node activity. I just had my 3 month scans this month. My CT scan showed NED, but my bone scan showed a new area of activity in one of my ribs on the right side that was not there before. I freaked out about it, but my onc told me that it was nothing to worry about because it did not show on the CT scan. They had me do a rib xray in case the activity came from an injury of some kind, but that xray came back negative. I am not having any significant pain around that area either. I'm concerned that something should be done, but I wanted to ask if anyone else has had bone scans show something like this and your onc said it was nothing to worry about. All the other areas of my bone scan where my previous cancer was all showed stable. I am currently on tamoxifen and completed 6 months of weekly chemo in April 2017 (taxol). Thanks in advance!

  • Lita57
    Lita57 Member Posts: 2,338
    edited November 2017

    Jaylea,

    Yes, stay away from high concentrations of THC...it's not good for BC, but the CBD aspect of Med MJ is fine. That's what I take. I take a tincture that is 20:1 CBD to THC. It helps with pain and inflammation.

    L


  • bigbhome
    bigbhome Member Posts: 721
    edited November 2017

    Hi everyone! Does anyone know how long steroid injections in your knee are supposed to last? Mine was 5 weeks ago, and I woke up in tears in the middle of the night because my knee hurt so bad. Also, do skull mets hurt when you touch them? Just wondering, many scalp has gotten pretty touchy in spots. Not comb your hair touchy, just when I touch or shampoo, and only in certain spots.

    Lita, So happy you are sharing your vast amount of wisdom again! How are you doing?

    Hugs and prayers,

    Claudia

  • auroaya
    auroaya Member Posts: 784
    edited November 2017

    Hi everyone! Well the not so great news is that the loose mets that have been controlled for four years of different treatments have now turned into a 1.4 x 6 cm tumor so I’m leaving Abraxane and going to Gemzar if anyone of you know about Gemzar or a good Gemzar thread please let me know. Fortunately I’m asymptomatic so I’m not in pain.

    Aurora

  • bigbhome
    bigbhome Member Posts: 721
    edited November 2017

    Aurora, So sorry to hear about your progression. I will be praying for you.

    Hugs and prayers, Claudia

  • Jeenee
    Jeenee Member Posts: 91
    edited November 2017

    Workingmom10 - If there is a new met showing on the bone scan, the CT scan would most likely show it in greater detail. My rib mets always show up on CT scans.

    Also, ribs tend to be painful. If nothing shows on the xray or CT, sounds like a good chance there is nothing to do with the bone in that area.

    Good News!



  • Jeenee
    Jeenee Member Posts: 91
    edited November 2017

    Aurora,

    I am so sorry to learn about this progression! Glad you are not in pain and praying the Gemzar does the trick to stop this in its tracks!

    -JeeNee

  • Jeenee
    Jeenee Member Posts: 91
    edited November 2017

    Hi Bigbhome,

    I can feel my skull mets, at times more than others, but they are not too sensitive. Sorry if you have skull mets. The thought of cancer anywhere near my head has never been an idea I want to accept...

    - JeeNee