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  • yoga_girl
    yoga_girl Member Posts: 80

    Antiperspirants

    Non-aluminum antiperspirant brands available - http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=non-aluminum+deodorant&tag=mh0b-20&index=aps&hvadid=1470470930&ref=pd_sl_7dv0jlt4ea_b

    Check this website for any chemical you would like to know more about and how it can impact your body and health  http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/chemical.html

    Best to check multiple sources, allopathic and non-allopathic.  As with any research, extract what you believe will be the best decision for your body.  You know your body better than anyone.  What you put on your skin can be absorbed directly into your bloodstream, harmful ingredients in your blood can have potentially deadly effects on your body.  What you put in and on your body; what information you decide to go with is a personal choice.  Know the risk, read labels, be informed.  Wishing everyone a healthy recovery.

    Dr. Christine H. Farlow, D.C. is "The Ingredients Investigator." She has been researching ingredient safety since 1991. She is the author of three books, including the new, second edition of Dying To Look Good. To learn more about the safety of ingredients in your deodorant, visit DyingToLookGood.com.

    Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/?expert=Christine_Farlow

    Read the ingredients. They're usually in very tiny print on the back of the label. If you have trouble reading small print, carry a magnifying glass around with you so you can read before you buy.

    Here are 7 ingredients to avoid when choosing your deodorant:

    Aluminum chlorohydrate, aluminum zirconium tetrachlorohydrex gly or any aluminum compounds. Aluminum is absorbed through the skin and accumulates in the body. It has been suggested that there is an association between aluminum and Alzheimer's disease.

    Parabens (methyl, ethyl, propyl, benzyl and butyl), are all derived from toluene, a toxic petrochemical derivative. Toluene is toxic if swallowed or inhaled. It is also harmful in contact with the skin. There is some evidence that repeated exposure to toluene may cause reproductive harm. Since 2000, 13 research studies have shown that various types of parabens act like estrogen in animals and in tissue culture. Estrogen is known to drive the growth of cancerous cells.

    Triclosan is a skin irritant and may cause contact dermatitis. It may kill healthy bacteria as well as harmful bacteria. It may contain carcinogenic contaminants. It is stored in body fat and is classified as a pesticide by the FDA.

    Talc is classified as a carcinogen by the International Agency for Research on Cancer if it contains asbestiform fibers. The quantity of asbestiform fibers in cosmetic grade talc is unregulated. If talc is listed on the label, there is no way of knowing whether or not it contains asbestiform fibers.

    Propylene glycol absorbs quickly through the skin and is a penetration enhancers. It may cause delayed allergic reactions. NIOSH says propylene glycol is a neurotoxin and may cause kidney or liver damage. The EPA says it's not fully investigated for carcinogenic potential.

    Silica is a skin irritant. It may be contaminated with crystalline quartz, which is a carcinogen.

    Steareth-n (n may be any number like say 100), may be vegetable derived but is reacted with ethylene oxide (ethoxylated), a known human carcinogen.

    Instead choose deodorants with ingredients like vegetable glycerin, natural preservatives like bioflavanoids and lichen, herbs or herbal extracts, de-ionized water or distilled water, green tea, aloe vera, baking soda and essential oils.

    A word of caution: Plant extracts listed on labels can already contain parabens and propylene glycol. These do not have to be listed on the label. Very few herbs supplied to manufacturers are free of parabens or other synthetic preservatives unless they are extracted in vegetable glycerine. To make sure that the products you buy are healthy and free of these harmful chemicals, call the deodorant manufacturer and ask them for detailed information.

    Research for those who enjoy the details:

    Blair, RM, Fang H, Branham WS, Hass BS, Dial SL, Moland CL, TongW, Shi L, Perkins R, Sheehan DM (2000). The estrogen receptor relative binding affinities of 188 natural and xenochemicals: Structural diversity of ligands. Toxicological Sciences 54:138-153.

    Byford JR, Shaw LE, Drew MGB, Pope GS, Sauer MJ, Darbre PD (2002). Oestrogenic activity of parabens in MCF7 human breast cancer cells. Journal of Steroid Biochemistry and Molecular Biology 80:49-60.

    Darbre PD (2003). Underarm cosmetics and breast cancer. Journal of Applied Toxicology 23:89-95.

    Darbre PD, Byford JR, Shaw LE, Hall S, Coldham NG, Pope GS, Sauer MJ (2003). Estrogenic activity of benzylparaben. Journal of Applied Toxicology 23:43-51.

    Darbre PD, Byford JR, Shaw LE, Horton RA, Pope GS, Sauer M (2002). Oestrogenic activity of isobutylparaben in vitro and in vivo. Journal of Applied Toxicology 22:219-226.

    Inui M, Tetsuya A, Takenaka S, Inui H, Nakazawa M, Ueda M, Watanabe H, Mori C, Iguchi T, Miyatake K (2003). Effects of UV screens and preservatives on vitellogenin and choriogenin production in male medaka ( Oryzias latipes). Toxicology 194:43-50.

    Jin-Sung P, Lee BJ, Kang KS, Tai JH, Cho JJ, Cho MH, Inoue T, Lee YS (2000). Hormonal effects of several chemicals in recombinant yeast, MCF7 celles and uterotropic assays in mice. Microbiological Biotechnology 10:293-299.

    Kang KS, Cho SD, Lee YS (2002). Additive estrogenic activities of the binary mixtures of four estrogenic chemicals in recombinant yeast expressing estrogen receptor. Journal of Veterinary Science 3: 1-5.

    Lemini C, Silva G, Timossi C, Luque D, Valverde A, Gonzales-Martinez M, Hernandez A, Rubio-Poo C, Chavez Lara B, Valenzuela F (1997). Estrogenic effects of phydroxybenzoicoacide in CD1 mice. Environmental Research 75:130-134.

    Nishihara T, Nishikawa JL, Kanayama T,Dakeyama F, Saito K, Imagawa M, Takatori S. Kitagawa Y, Hori S, Utsumi H (2000). Estrogenic activities of 517 chemicals by yeast two-hybrid assay. Journal of Health Science 46:282-298.

    Okubo T, Yokoyama Y, Kano K, Kano I (2001). ER-dependent estrogenic activity of parabens assessed by proliferation of human breast cancer MCF7 cells and expression of ER alpha and PR. Food Chemistry and Toxicology 39:1225-1232.

    Pedersen KL, Pedersen SN, Christiansen LB, Korgaard B, Bjerregaard P (2000). The preservatives ethylpropyl and butylparaben are oestrogenic in an in vivo fish assay. Pharmacology & Toxicology 86: 110-113.

    Routledge EJ, Parker J, Odum J, Ashby J, Sumpter JP (1998). Some alky hydroxyl benzoate preservatives (parabens are estrogenic. Toxicology and Applied Pharmacology. 153:12-19.

    Soni MG, Gurdock GA, Taylor SL, Greenberg NA.(2001). Safety assessment of propyl paraben: A review of the published literature. Food and Chemical Toxicology 39:513-532.

    Vinaggard AM, Kroner W, Lund KH, Bolz U, Peterson JH (2000). Identification and quantification of estrogenic compounds in recycled and virgin paper for household use as determined by an in vitro yeast estrogen screen and chemical analysis. Chemical Research in Toxicology 13: 1214-1222.

    2. Darbre PD, Aljarrah A, Miller WR, Coldham NG, Sauer MJ, Pope GS (2004). Concentrations of parabens in human breast tumors. Journal of Applied Toxicology 24:5-13.

    3. Elder RRL (1984). Final report on the safety assessment of methylparaben, ethylparaben, propylaraben and butylparaben. Journal of the American College of Toxicology 3:147-209.

    4. Darbre PD, Aljarrah A, Miller WR, Coldham NG, Sauer MJ, Pope GS (2004). Concentrations of parabens in human breast tumors. Journal of Applied Toxicology 24:5-13.

    5. McGrath KG (2003). An earlier age of breast cancer diagnosis related to more frequent use of antiperspirants/deodorants and underarm shaving. European Journal of Cancer Prevention 12:479-485.

    6. Harvey PW, Darbre P (2004). Endocrine disruptors and human health: Could oestrogenic chemicals in body care cosmetics adversely affect breast cancer incidence in women? A review of evidence and call for further research. Journal of Applied Toxicology 24:167-176.

    7. Fisher JS, Turner KJ, Brown D, Sharpe RM (1999). Effect of neonatal exposure to estrogenic compounds on development of the ducts of rat testis through puberty to adulthood. Environmental Health Perspectives 107:397-405.

    Kang KS, Che JH, RYu DY, Kim TW, Li GX, Lee YS (2002). Decreased sperm number and motile activity on the F1 offspring maternally exposed to butyl phydroxybenzoic acid (butyl paraben). Journal of Veterinary Medical Science 64:227-235.


  • hopeful82014
    hopeful82014 Member Posts: 887
    I'm so sorry you're going through such a rough patch, Poppy. I hope it passes soon. ((((Poppy)))).
  • Nash54
    Nash54 Member Posts: 699

    Hey Poppy...hope your having a better day ((hugs))

  • tgtg
    tgtg Member Posts: 75

    A footnote to Yogagirl's list of chemicals: even if you don't use talcum powder, you may be ingesting talc if you eat rice. The Japanese--including my daughter-in-law whose father is a rice farmer in Japan--ALWAYS washes her rice thoroughly before cooking it. Talc is used in the finishing process to polish rice, so she (1) soaks her rice for 15 minutes at least, then drains the really milky white water; (2) bathes the rice 3 more times in clean water. Even though it California grown rice like the Nishiki brands say there's no need to wash their rice, I take my lead from my DIL and wash it anyway--and see white water when I do!

  • Nash54
    Nash54 Member Posts: 699

    thanks tgtg...always wondered about rinsing rice

  • surprisedat65
    surprisedat65 Member Posts: 28

    Hopeful, thanks for the info. I have put in a call to my dr. to clarify what is supposed to happen. My insurance is not the best, doesn't give me many choices in the way of second opinions, and I have to worry about not being able to afford the out-of-pocket costs for all this treatment, let alone needing a second surgery should it be necessary. I also don't want to go through the rest of my life fighting lymphedema if it's not absolutely necessary to take a lot of nodes. I have yet to talk to an oncologist. Is it thought that perhaps the radiation can take care of small malignancies in the lymph nodes?





  • kayfry
    kayfry Member Posts: 334

    Bikerbabe, I totally agree with Sweetshop. You rock!

  • kayfry
    kayfry Member Posts: 334

    surprised, I sure hope you get a call back from your doctor and get the answers you need and deserve. Please insist.

  • kayfry
    kayfry Member Posts: 334

    Yes, thanks for the rice info. I use a rice cooker that has a built-in "soak" setting prior to cooking, BUT, the same water stays in there for cooking! We do most often use the California rices, but I'm going to pre-soak from now on, just to be sure.

  • surprisedat65
    surprisedat65 Member Posts: 28

    Hopeful8201 said: I would call back and make certain they are looking at the right records.

    Hopeful was correct—the surgeon's nurse got back to me this afternoon to say that I'm scheduled for a lump and an SNB, so whoever called me must have been looking at the wrong chart. The foley balloon, by the way, has nothing to do with a catheter but is what they would have inserted were I getting the 5 treatment in 5 days balloon radiation, which, unfortunately, since there's more than one tumor, I'm not.

    How long are each of these radiation treatments I'll be getting 5 days a week for 6 weeks? How soon after the lump do they usually start? I have yet to be assigned an ONC.

  • hopeful82014
    hopeful82014 Member Posts: 887

    Surprised - I'm glad you got that cleared up! And it's interesting about the Foley balloon radiation; that's not a brand I've heard of before. The rad. treatments are brief - usually 10 minutes but there's time involved in changing, getting positioned, etc. They usually don't start until you've healed pretty well from the lumpectomy - around the 4 week mark. You'll find a ton more detailed info. on the main site regarding radiation, as well as on the discussion board. but many of the women here in the lounge have already been through radiation and can help answer your questions, too.

  • pontiacpeggy
    pontiacpeggy Member Posts: 6,338

    SurprisedAt65, The radiation treatments themselves run about 10 minutes max for me. They were easy for me. Mine started 6 weeks post-lumpy. Most of us has a Breast Surgeon or Surgical Oncologist, Medical Oncologist and Radiation Oncologist. Plus maybe others like a nurse navigator. I'm glad that you were able to get things clarified. HUGS!!!

  • allicat1214
    allicat1214 Member Posts: 15

    Hi everyone.

    Had my lumpectomy and SNB today. BS told my mom that tumor was tiny and I have two small incisions. Said he didn't think nodes were involved, but couldn't say 100% until pathology comes back in 10 days. His associate came to me while in recovery and said pretty sure they got all tissue necessary. I was still coming out of anesthesia, but that's what I thought he said. But I know everything is dependent upon pathology report.

    I'm a little sore but other than that did okay. No drain. Doc said the cut for SNB was going to be below hair line. Haven't looked at incision as need to keep bra with bandage on for 48 hours before I can shower.

    Anyway, wanted to shout out to the Louisiana ladies here: Leigh and Hopeful and Sweethope! Is it okay to say which hospital we go to? I'm in NOLA area and go to the big place on Jeff Hwy and have been very pleased thus far.

    It's Mardi Gras weekend in NOLA and I'll be home recuperating and that's okay by me! Just glad to be on this side of the surgery.

    Anyway, thanks to all of you for sharing your stories and suggestions. I did post a few days ago asking about bras and appreciated the great tips. Doc had said I would have six week course of radiation about a month after Lx. So I'll be looking for a "Spring Rad 2015" thread and hoping to share great stories of encouragement ...

    Thanks to all!


  • pontiacpeggy
    pontiacpeggy Member Posts: 6,338

    Way to go AlliCat! It IS nice to get it over. I felt it was a huge step forward in getting rid of the darned cancer. Fingers crossed for a great path report with clear margins and nodes! BTW, go ahead and mention your hospital. Some of us do. I haven't because there aren't many people here in my area. But you have quite a few in LA so why not? You'll do just fine with the rads. Again, glad you did so well!!! HUGS!!!

  • kayfry
    kayfry Member Posts: 334

    So glad to hear it went well, AlliCat! I'm to start rads at the beginning of March, so maybe we'll be kind of on the same schedule? Sleep well and I will be hoping for all good things in you path report.

  • kayfry
    kayfry Member Posts: 334

    I had a brief scare today that really makes me kind of mad. Here I am, in the middle of my treatment for grade 3 or possibly grade 2, but anyway, a fairly aggressive DCIS that I've been having treated at Johns Hopkins. They're about an hour down the road, so why wouldn't I? I've had my (successful) Lx on 1/13 and am due for simulation for rads on Monday. All cool, until today I get a call from someone at Johns Hopkins, who has just spent 3 hours (seriously) on the phone with 7 different people at my insurance company, which is Blue Cross/Blue Shield, widely accepted, and they're all telling her that I'm "out of network" and won't be covered. Seriously? I know I'm covered, made sure of that before I purchased this pricey policy only 3 months ago, made sure it was good for out-of-state. And everything so far in my treatment—diagnostic mammogram, wire localization, surgery—has been approved with no questions asked. Slight freak-out ensues. The Hopkins person, who is very, very nice, says she will try one more time, hoping to get yet a different person on the phone, and it turns out that 8 times is a charm! This person puts her on hold a few times to check, but eventually comes back to say that yes, it is NOT out of network for me, and furthermore, I don't even need to have a pre-authorization for rads. So it's all cool, but meanwhile I had a moment of panic, because if not covered in-network, the cost of my rads would be absolutely prohibitive. Then what?? We who are dealing with all of the emotional and physical effects of bc do not need this. Sorry, just had to vent.

  • pontiacpeggy
    pontiacpeggy Member Posts: 6,338

    Vent away, Kay. That's crap. Thank heavens you have a good person at Hopkins who really went to bat for you. I'd have gone ballistic. Why do the insurance companies have such idiots working for them and/or such confusing policies that no one can possibly understand them??? BTW, I also do not need referrals for anything with my Medigap policy. Very nice. Of course, half the doctors don't believe me. Now you can breathe. Another glass of wine or 10 should help!! :)

  • hopeful82014
    hopeful82014 Member Posts: 887

    Thanks for your update, Allicat - it's great to hear that it went well and you're feeling o.k. enough to log on here. Take it easy tonight and rest up the next few days. Don't forget to ice the incision areas from time to time! It's really good to know that you were happy with your care.

    (Just to clarify - I'm not in NOLA, but rather the Pacific NW. However, I'm happy to be considered an honorary local :) )

    Sending good energy for an easy recovery and a beautiful, happy path. report!

  • kayfry
    kayfry Member Posts: 334

    Check on the wine :) They are idiots working for them, who furthermore don't care enough to actually check and find out what the real deal is. That makes me pretty angry. I had to make multiple calls to clarify this out-of-state thing before I bought the policy, 'cause even though I didn't know I would be Dx with BC practically as soon as I got the policy, I did know that if anything serious did come up, it would be likely I'd be going to Hopkins. Plus, even my dermatologist is in MD—we're like 5 miles from the state line. Sometimes I wish I lived in Canada—except I guess it would be even colder there than it is in PA this weekend! Peggy, I am looking forward to signing on for Medicare in just 4 months now. If I had my way, we would have Medicare for all.

  • pontiacpeggy
    pontiacpeggy Member Posts: 6,338

    Kay, I'm so thankful for Medicare and the Medigap policy I have. I have had no out-of-pocket expenses (other than prescription co-pays but that's a different policy). DH started Medicare 9 days before he had his heart attack 4+ years ago and every single thing was covered. I do count my blessings. Our Canadian friends have issues, Kay, that I recall seeing discussed on some of these forums. You were exceptionally wise in checking on Hopkins coverage before you bought your policy! HUGS!

  • Nash54
    Nash54 Member Posts: 699

    Allicat....so glad all went well. Rest and take good care of yourself.

    kayfry...I hate dealing with insurance...but so glad we have it. Glad you got it all sorted out. And your right, who wants to deal with that aggravation along with all the emotional stuff we have to deal with.


  • Mm68
    Mm68 Member Posts: 36

    Allicat-glad to hear all went well. I will be having a little get together for friends for Mardi Gras - making a Kings Cake again(lots of work but all love it).

    Kayfry-don't get me started on insurance ( and I work in the business)!

    I had a long 3rd day of radiation, they asked me to come 10 mins. later and I ended up waiting over a hour and then met with Dr., was not home until after 6:00-so made for a long day. Do they typically run on time for treatments? Mine is scheduled for 4:20, which already makes for a long day after working a full day.

  • pontiacpeggy
    pontiacpeggy Member Posts: 6,338

    Sometimes the machines breakdown. Sometimes they are just behind. And waiting for the RO seems to be the norm in my experience. I'll bet it was a long day. :(

  • hopeful82014
    hopeful82014 Member Posts: 887

    MM - Thank goodness tomorrow's Friday!

  • shaz101
    shaz101 Member Posts: 51

    hi all. Thanks hopeful, I appreciated you concern 💜 I've been reading most of the posts and jeez you've all been busy!

    It's Friday night here and I'm looking forward to going to bed. I hope everyone has a lovely Friday.

    My last surgery went well and the rest of the nodes were clear. I see the oncologist next week so we can work out the next step. I'm still sore and have restricted movement in my arm, it's frustrating but it's not painful as long as I don't push it. It'll be fine soon, I just need to be patient. Xxx thinking of you all.

  • shaz101
    shaz101 Member Posts: 51

    kayfry that's terrible. That must have been so stressful. You certainly dot need that! I hope your stress levels have reduced now X hugs to you.

  • pontiacpeggy
    pontiacpeggy Member Posts: 6,338

    Shaz, so relieved the nodes were clear. But sorry you're sore. Just do your exercises carefully. HUGS!!

  • SweetHope
    SweetHope Member Posts: 74

    Shaz! So good to hear from you. Fantastic news that the other nodes were clear. Yes, that frustrating, annoying...sometimes painful...arm will take a little while for the nerves to settle down. Some like to apply cold, I like warm, moist heat.

    Allicat, Happy Mardi Gras, Cher! Get you some fried alligator tail and an Abita to celebrate having the surgery behind you. I'm across the Twin Spans and like you I'll be watching the parades from the couch in my den and not a couch on the neutral ground on St. Charles. That might be a good thing this year as the weatherman says thunderstorms on Fat Tuesday.

    For Everyone, here is a taste of Carnival. After baking you are to hide a small plastic baby in the cake and whoever gets it in their slice must host the next King Cake Party. These are served from Twelfth Night until Mardi Gras Day. Calories per two inch wedge: a zillion.

    Carnival Coffee Cake/Quicker King Cake

    2- 8 oz. cans crescent roll dough

    1-8 oz. package of cream cheese

    2/3 c. plus ¼ c. confectioners' sugar, divided

    ½ teaspoon vanilla extract

    2 medium granny smith apples, peeled, cored, and thinly sliced

    1 tablespoon cinnamon sugar

    ½ c. whole milk

    ½ c. chopped pecans

    Colored sugars, recipe follows

    1. Preheat oven to 350.

    2. Unroll and divide crescent rolls into triangles. Place pieces around the edge of an 11 inch round baking dish, overlapping pieces with the points of the dough hanging over the dish. Press seams of all pieces together to seal.

    3. In a large bowl, combine cream cheese 2/3 c. confectioners' sugar, and vanilla. Spread onto dough. Place apple slices on cream cheese mixture. Add cinnamon sugar and chopped pecans. Fold the points of dough over the filling, and tuck under the bottom of the dough, to create a ring shape. Bake until golden brown, 20-25 minutes.

    4. In a small bowl, combine remaining ¼ c. confectioners' sugar and milk. Spoon glaze over top of cake, and sprinkle with colored sugars

    Colored Sugars: 1 ½ c, coarse sugar, divided. Green, yellow, and purple food coloring. In 3 resealable plastic bags, place ½ c. sugar per bag. Add 3 to 4 drops of food coloring to one bag, seal, and shake until evenly coated. Do all 3 colors this way. Add more food coloring, if necessary, to achieve desired color.

    Note: I might try a can of pie mix instead of the apples.

  • pontiacpeggy
    pontiacpeggy Member Posts: 6,338

    Not familiar with this cake. Sounds luscious. How many are you making???

  • SweetHope
    SweetHope Member Posts: 74

    Oh no, Peggy, my king cake days are over. When you see them in every Break Room in every office building for a month each and every year, you avoid them just so you don't get that baby.

    Now...a doberge cake is another thing entirely that no one can resist. I don't make them, but I've never grown tired of them.