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I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!

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  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,855
    edited March 2021

    Nah, the evil left on 1/20/21. Civility has returned as has our democracy.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,923
    edited March 2021

    There are still a lot of evil lunatics around, but thankfully they aren't in charge of the Federal government at the moment....obviously some are still wrecking havoc at the state level and those out of power would do so again if given the chance judging by the words and behavior of many of the Republican members of Congress. The civility is pretty one-sided.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,923
    edited March 2021

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  • chisandy
    chisandy Member Posts: 11,418
    edited March 2021

    What Seuss' estate did was the functional equivalent of me going through Bob's & my closets and getting rid of the big-shoulder-pad blazers & blouses, platform & "monster" shoes, homemade puka-shell chokers, micro-miniskirts, hot pants, ankle-zipper jeans, bellbottom pants. Qiana nylon disco shirts, and "Members Only"-style jackets--NOT throwing away our entire wardrobes. But Republicans and especially FAUXNoise glom on to half a headline and immediately jump to wild, exaggerated conclusions--including who said what to whom.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,996
    edited March 2021

    Perform a kind action, and you find a kind feeling growing in yourself, even if it was not there before. As you increase the number of your kind and charitable interests, you find that the more you do for them, the more you love them. Serve others, not because they are your friends, not because they are interesting, not because they are grateful. . . . Serve them because they are the children of your father, and therefore are all your brethren, and you will soon find that the fervent heart keeps time with the charitable hands.
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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,996
    edited March 2021

    Guess anything can and will be used against when it comes to Dr. Seuss and sadly many other things that should not crop up at all. Both sides do it, but I feel as though after the orange other guy's time it feels a whole lot worse.

    I'm hoping that yes, the civility from the left as well as getting things ( good and needful things ) done will have a calming effect and even help if possible some sanity get restored from as many as possible on the other side. We were so stalled out before and I for one am still reveling in the feeling of freedom seeing ( though some things are feeling painfully slow right now like Merrick Garland ) things MOVE and feeling great positivity and lots of hope alive and blooming.

    Here's hoping we can keep it up.

    I have to say -- sure seems many on the other side are going almost backwards and just dragging their party down more.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,996
    edited March 2021

    One of my greatest irritations of which there are many from that side.


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  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,923
    edited March 2021

    The whole Suess thing, the Cuomo hysteria etc. etc. etc. are trying to distract people from the fact that Trump supporters attacked the Capitol and are still trying to overthrow the government of the United States, the fact that many of their party members are racists, sexist and have suspect dealings themselves (not to mention being bat-shit-crazy), and the fact that Joe Biden is getting vaccines into the arms of Americans and trying to help ALL Americans regardless of party, which is reflected in his high approval rating.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,923
    edited March 2021

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    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,923
    edited March 2021

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  • kad2kar
    kad2kar Member Posts: 45
    edited March 2021

    Damnation! I know I had it before, but can't remember how I did it. Sad It was lovely to see you for a minute. I didn't want to waste your time together so I left. kad2karHeart

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,923
    edited March 2021

    Shocked......if you want to do a practice session & try different devices or whatever, let me know K2K.

    I see the Covid relief bill passed the Senate 50-49 with no Republican votes. Hopefully voters will remember that fact when the next election rolls around.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,923
    edited March 2021

    This is interesting, from the Huffington Post:

    In the latest sign of a growing fissure in the Republican Party, former GOP House Speaker Paul Ryan is hosting a fundraiser for Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), who came under heavy fire from some colleagues over her Jan. 13 vote to impeach Donald Trump.

    The "virtual event" featuring "special guest" Ryan is being held March 25. Suggested contributions are $5,800 to co-host and $2,900 to attend, according to a copy of the invitation obtained by Politico.

    Cheney will face two Republican contenders in the 2022 primary: Wyoming Rep. Chuck Gray and state Sen. Anthony Bouchard.

    Cheney was one of 10 Republicans in the House who voted to impeach Trump over the riot at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6. "The oath that I took to the Constitution compelled me to vote for impeachment and ... it doesn't bend to political pressure," Cheney told Fox News' Chris Wallace last month.

    She was slammed for her vote by several GOP colleagues — and Trump — and censured by Wyoming's Republican Party. But she easily survived an effort by hard-right Republicans last month to oust her as House Republican Conference chair.

    Ryan, who served as speaker from 2015 to 2019, often clashed with Trump. In January, the former Wisconsin lawmaker shredded efforts by congressional Republicans to overturn Democrat Joe Biden's win in the presidential election as anti-democratic.

    "Efforts to reject the votes of the Electoral College and sow doubt about Joe Biden's victory strike at the foundation of our republic," Ryan said in a statement. "It is difficult to conceive of a more anti-democratic and anti-conservative act than a federal intervention to overturn the results of state-certified elections and disenfranchise millions of Americans."

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,621
    edited March 2021

    Since dh is off on weekends, lately now that winter is pretty much over, we've been busier on Saturdays so I've been unable to join the Zoom calls.

    So I see the stimulus plan passed. No Repugs voted for it. They are all slimeballs. They know it will go far to make Dems look good in the eyes of the voters. From a FB post: It is projected to cut child poverty by 50%. It provides major assistance to states and local governments. It increases the coverage COBRA provides to 100%. It provides billions to pay for child care and public schools and provides billions more to colleges and universities with fully 50% being earmarked specifically for low income students in financial aid (not loans).

    I read that a couple who are big into the Qanon quackery donated a million dollars to the former guy and their somn donated half a million and that's why didn't the orange guy wouldn't renounce the group.

    Yesterday a record 2.4 million vaccines were given in the U.S. I was very surprised my health dept already called dh and I and we scheduled a vaccine appt this Wednesday; we only became eligible last Thursday. Ohio's governor has plans to set up 15 mass long-term vaccination sites and 4 mass mobile sites by the end of March; each will be able to give 300 to 3,000 vaccines a day. That's in addition to 1,250 local providers in the state. It's a little hard for me to wrap my mind around the fact that we are pulling out of this pandemic after all this time!



  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,621
    edited March 2021

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  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,621
    edited March 2021

    I just watched Senator Chuck Schumer's press conference he gave after the passage of the American Rescue Plan. If he were able, I think he woulda jumped up and clicked his heels together, he was almost giddy. First, I love the man. I wish he were my Senator. He's starting to show his age, but I freely admit at one time I had a crush on him, and heck, he's not much older than me. He said the Democrats promised the American people that they would get things done, mentioning showing people the true Trump during the impeachment trial, the rolling out of the vaccine and now, the stimulus package passing, all this in a little over a month. Next week he said they'll be addressing more Cabinet confirmations, Merrick Garland being one of them. He effervescently spoke about how he loves his caucus. I don't know how Chuck celebrates---knocking back a few drinks, big juicy steak, cigar, getting a facial or riding off into the sunset on a horse---but whatever it is, he deserves his moment in the sun for grueling through four years of former guy.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,996
    edited March 2021

    Well, I never expected to see the day when I'd be in agreement with Paul Ryan over anything and the fact that the feeling is coming from his aid to Liz Cheney makes it all the more remarkable to me. I hope Ryan is able to raise a lot of money for her. I can't say my feelings for her were highly positive either. I presume I am enjoying the idea that some on the rt. haven't totally lost their way or their minds.

    I didn't attempt the Zoom meeting this time. Like ktok I've disliked the idea that lots of valuable time is wasted by trying to drag me along and so I didn't even try this time. ktok, I highly recommend doing a practice session with Ruth. I did one early on and though I did find out it is mainly my computer and lack of knowledge and skill, you already know it WILL work for you.

    Divine, good for your health dept. Pres. Biden is doing so well with trying to get us through covid, and it certainly looks and feels like we are truly going to get there with the government now doing what we have relied on them so long for -- helping manage crisis points in powerful ways with their full weight behind and assisting efforts to bring things right. Had the orange other guy done this one thing right there is good chance he might still be sitting in the WH. I still would not have wanted him, but if saving over half a million people I would have had to have gone along and hoped for better later. I don't recall how many people ( it should have been a lot actually ) tried to warn him that ignoring a pandemic was not the thing to do. Between he and the un-qualified people he surrounded himself with and the fact that he had so much wrong at the end got us Pres. Biden. The stimulus package should be a quite fair shot to the arm for starting some good recovery on the economic end of things. I find it almost stupefying that so many of the Reps. want ( and will work towards ) Pres. Biden to fail. The greed and hunger for power is not a pretty thing to see at all. We have been treated to such evil and ugliness and so often in such transparent ways. Even knowing a lot of this was there, it scares me to see what 4 yrs. did to us. I'm so hoping Pres. Biden's first four will turn that around and give us a great opening to building back better.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,996
    edited March 2021

    I can't say I feel one bit sorry for this person actually although I will admit that the thought of having it happen just about turns me green. Should be filed under things to consider when you choose to join an insurrection for the other guy. While he dines, plays golf, goes to CPAC etc.

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,996
    edited March 2021

    Never thought of it that way, but I can see the twisted logic. How horribly sad.


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  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,621
    edited March 2021

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    🎶 Until the 12th of never, and that's a long, long time.......



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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,996
    edited March 2021

    Love those memes.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,996
    edited March 2021

    Some of these people are into I've got mine ( no matter how underhanded and selfish I might have been ) and isn't is just too bad about you.


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    There are people who come to a place where they attain a certain amt. of power. How easy it seems to lose touch ( if ever you had it much anyway ) with the people who elect you to that position of power. I hope this guy gets sent down the road.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,996
    edited March 2021

    This says way more than a mouthful.


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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,996
    edited March 2021

    May be a cartoon of text that says 'March 4th came and March 4th went, but Trump was gone, their momentum spent It appears the Q's were out of luck, or perhaps they were just dumb as fuck BRUCELEONARDCOMEDY'

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,996
    edited March 2021

    Because the rt. is willing to go full bore and in your face on anything they decide should be theirs ( earned or not or reasonable or not ) they get what they want. Why do we persist in being nice guys about this. If the people ( public ) need it, we should do what we have to do to get it. It is fair to play the game often just like they do and take what is needed and move on.


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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,996
    edited March 2021

    May be a Twitter screenshot of 1 person and text that says 'Brian Tyler Cohen @briantylercohen While Trump was president, EVERY Democrat voted for the $2 trillion CARES Act, even though doing so helped Trump. While Biden is president, ZERO Republicans voted for the $1.9 trillion American Relief Plan, because hurting Biden is more imporan than helping Americans. 1:27 PM 06 Mar21 Mar Twitter Web App 6,647 Retweets 470 Quote Tweets 20.5K Likes'


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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,996
    edited March 2021

    Keep up the good work Gen:


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  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,621
    edited March 2021



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  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,621
    edited March 2021

    Jackie, Jen Psaki's remarks about immigration are so on target!

    Here's an article about how mismanaged the pandemic was from the start, how so much time was wasted from inaction and that it didn't have to be that way.

    Truly, the former president and administration should be held accountable tho they never will be except in the annals of history.

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    Doctor reflects one year later: "This pandemic got off to such a bad start in the United States"


    Katelyn Sykes, PITTSBURGH

    Saturday, March 6 marks one year that Pennsylvania recorded its first case of COVID-19. Since then, nearly one million cases and more than 24,000 deaths have been reported in the commonwealth.

    Doctor Amesh Adalja, a Senior Scholar at Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, and Pittsburgh-based Infectious Disease Critical and Emergency Medical Physician, said looking back, things should have been handled differently.

    "This pandemic got off to such a bad start in the United States, meaning that there was so much inaction, so many wrong actions taken, so much time wasted that decisive action became impossible to take by the time people realized that this was something serious," he said.

    Dr. Adalha said it didn't have to be that way because of the work he does at Johns Hopkins regarding pandemic preparedness. They had written reports about predicting something like this would happen, and came up with the framework on how to deal with it. Instead, he said nothing happened for months.

    "January, February and most of March were squandered where critical actions of setting up an ability to test-trace and isolate, getting our hospitals ready, fortifying our nursing homes, making sure we had enough personal protective equipment and most importantly, coming up with a way to test people, all of that never happened," he said. "What you had in March was really undetected chains of transmission bubbling over in many places in the country that then put hospitals into crisis in places like NYC. You had very scared governors who are extrapolating from NYC, taking very blunt actions because they had no way at that time to know who was infected and who wasn't."

    Doctor Adalja said experts knew early on that the disease preyed on the elderly, but very little was done to prepare nursing homes and staff. Because of the lack of action he said the majority of deaths and hospital capacity concerns stemmed from outbreaks in nursing homes.

    "I think we would have had a very different pandemic in the United States and in Pennsylvania if the care in nursing homes had been adequate or up to the task and it clearly wasn't," he said.

    "I think that when I look at the pandemic, that's what I really focus on is how this could have been better, because we will face another pandemic threat in the future," he said. "If we do not fix the problems that lead to the pandemic to be so aggressive in the United States, this whole thing will repeat itself again," he said.