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HI LADIES!!
There were a few of you that I had Pm'd a few weeks ago and I have not heard back on how you are doing. PLEASE check your PM's...:)..
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Kittycat--I am 3 months out fo chemo and the fatigue is still there. I really can't functio without a long nap in the afternoon, and I'm an elementary school principal.I did not/could not work through chemo. I have been back a bit and it kill me. If you saw this week's Parade magazine in the Sunday paper, they have articles onbeig a cancer survivor. They talk about the ftaigue and that it canlast way longer than they used to think. MY onc told me at least a yera before I start to feel "normal" and I may have to settle for a new normal. Take lots of supplements, eat a healthy, organic, mostly plant-based diet. Good Luck. Off to the hospital for my exchange surgery.
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Thanks everyone! I am a sales rep, so I can actually work from home. My manager has been extremely supportive, so I'm not too worried about work. My fatigue really hit Sunday morning and it's still there today.
MBJ - my onco said NO VITAMIN C supplements. I'm only supposed to take a multi-vitamin, which I have been taking. I'm eating a lot of protein - chicken, yogurt, some nuts and peanut butter.
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mslrg: Good luck today with your exchange! I am there with you on the fatigue lasting longer then we anticipate. I have done every type of supplement and complementary therapy I can afford and still I haven't bounced back.
estepp: I forgot about how you really shouldn't be out working with the public! I took getting cancer as a way to get out of an abusive job situation--but my whole job was to deal with the public, go into peoples homes, go to construction sites, meet with groups of people. There was no way I could do chemo and work. The good news is I decided to start my own business that way, I can turn down work and pace myself. In a way it's the best thing that ever happened to me--if I take a couple of jobs a month instead of having to sell a few a week, I will make the same amount of money or more and without an abuxive boss.
Kay: I am so sorry--I had no idea that was why you had to have a mastectomy. I had a delay between my two last chemo sessions and I had an allergic reaction on the last one and only made it 3/4 of the way through. I was lucky that when they did surgery, all I had left was a dead, shrunken mass--no alive cancer cells left. The good news for us is that we will finally get that visit from the boob fairy
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Saturday I went for my first run since the bmx. It was a really short run but I discovered something really amazing - no booby bounce! That is definately a plus for me! Even with the most intense support bra I could find my boobs always bounced and I found that embarassing and quite uncomfortable. The foobs behave themselves quite nicely. I've restarted my running several times throughout my years of motherhood, and it has never been easy to get myself back out there but I actually woke up this morning enthusiastic about going for a run!
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Kittycat -- I found that I needed two days of complete rest (Tuesday and Wednesday following my Monday infusions) and that by Thursday I was usually good, though certainly not my usual high energy. So maybe if you give yourself two days to really rest (and do nothing BUT rest) you can shore up and find more energy by end of the week. The good news is the week off
I agree that it took several weeks for me to get back to feeling normal, fatigue wise, after I finished chemo. Maybe I was lucky in that I did not get THAT tired... it was cumulative for me though. By the time I was done with Taxol I was more tired than when I did the AC. I overall found the AC easier than the Taxol though, and as I understand it most women find the AC more difficult.
Re: Vitamins -- yeah my ONC said no Vitamin C and actually said NO VITAMINS at all -- since multivitamins contain Vitamin C. You should show the multivitamin you're taking to your ONC, Kittycat, just in case.
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yeah it was cus of the mantle radiation that im high risk of BC. if id not had to have it,i would be no more at risk of BC than the average woman. But back then they did what they thought was right at the time,and who knows,if id not have had the rads,i may have relapsed......we will never know. Thats just how the cookie crumbles.
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Kay- After all you have been through you are an incredibly positive person! What a great role model for your daughter! I think considering what you've been through you should get as many visits from the Boob Fairy as you want. You deserve it!
On the subject of boobs, I have decided I am no longer allowed out in public. With a week from my exchange I have become boob obsessed and check out every women I see. I'm starting to creep myself out! Now I've got my DH doing it, too. (He was always more of a butt man.) With two of us doing it it's amazing no one has slapped us! So I think I should stay safely shuttered in my house for the next week and just check them out on the t.v.!
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Kittycat: To clarify what Lilah is saying about vitamins, I was told by my oncologist, no Vitamins that are antioxidents one day prior, the day of and the day after chemo. Some oncologists stretch this to 5 days so you should discuss this with your onc. You want the chemo to do it's work and vitamins during chemo can prevent this but after a couple of days it's okay to resume taking them--chemo only works for about 72 hours.
Kay: I am so sorry that you ended up having this but the boob fairy is going to be very good to both of us!
Kate: It sounds like you had a great birthday and holiday! My husband was never a breast man either but I think he is going to love something new to play with LOL. I apologize in advance, but when I read your post to Kay, all I could think of was multiple boobies
. I have never looked at breasts so much in my entire life and I keep banging into things with my one large,left boobie. So when I finally get my pictures up don't ask me why it's still bruised!0 -
Kittycat: Sorry, just saw your post. I am so glad that you can work from home! That makes everything so much easier.0
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I finally worked up the nerve to post a pic of me since my bilateral mastectomy. Looking for some honest opinions about the scars. They scare me as not everyone's pics on there look as bad as mine. Please let me know what you think. Thanks so much!!
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Kittycat, chemo really does take a lot out of you. I worked the whole time at a pretty demanding job, but had supportive bosses that told me to go home early whenever I needed to. I hung in for most work days, but did nothing in the evenings or weekends during "chemo week". Since my hair was gone, I slept as late as I could since it didn't take me long to get ready. Eating and food textures were a problem for me so I just ate really weird--whatever calories I could get down.
The most important thing I wanted to tell you is there's is an excellent bco forum on chemo that has many threads. I found the one that had women on my type chemo and followed along throughout my 4 mos. of chemo. This was REALLY helpful in terms of what to expect next, tips, and support for getting through it. Check it out.
Get lots of rest. I became "one" with my couch and HGTV during those months. I considered it my incubating time! deekaay
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Hello
Looks like I will be getting a lat flap this saturday. My previously radiated breast failed with the inplant after the exchange 2 months ago. A sore turned into an open wound real quick. She did a surgery last week to clean out wound and stitched it up, but the new stitches are failing to hold the skin. I am glad I gave it a try- now my only option is the lat flap. Love to hear from anyone who has gone thru that surgery.
Jennifer
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Aw so sorry Jennifer. That said, everyone who has had autologous reconstruction is so happy -- I am thinking you will be too!
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Jennifer I am so sorry Brenda was just asking about you she will be sad as well. I will keep you in my prayers.
Rebecca
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Darn rads! My prayer is that SOMEDAY they can learn to heal our rads skin so that all these troubles DO NOT HAPPEN. I am sorry Jennifer.
Linda54 had the latflap... and so did Facecrafter.... PM them.. they are wonderful to talk to. The will help you with questions.
xxxooo
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Jenjo: If no one speaks up about the lat flap you could try contacting either facecrafter, Linda54, or waldo. I believe that they all had lat flaps. I'm sure it has to be disappointing to have your implant fail. I'm happy for you that you could get your flap surgery scheduled so soon. Best wishes for a successful surgery and a quick,painfree recovery.
TCK
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deekay - thanks. I'm on the chemo forum, too. Just thought I'd ask some vets on the chemo stuff!

Thanks everyone for the helpful tips. I called my onco's office today. They said my fatigue was normal. They were happy that I was eating well and drinking lots of fluids!
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jenweg- I looked at your photo and I think you look great. I can't believe you have TE's. The shape looks very natural. I left some comments for you but I wanted to say I wouldn't worry about the scarring just yet. Down the road when you are healed from your exchange, if the scars are still an issue, they can laser them to make them less noticeable.
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KATE~ ha ha! I have not got QUITE that bad yet,but im almost there! Its worse with it being summer too as women are walking around with strappy tops on and with their boobs on display! I fly out to Portugal on Thursday and i daren't even go to the beach incase their are topless sunbathers!! LOL i will keep a pair of very dark sunglasses on all holiday i think!

MBJ~Well that boob fairy had BETTER be good to me! Or she's in the boot of my car along with my PS and BS!
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Hi Jennifer!
I had lat flap and my skin was rads from 7 years ago when I had a lumpectomy the first go round.
I am more than happy to help you thru it and tell you my experience.
It does work out, sometimes that skin gives some trouble, but overall, I had a very very good outcome and 2 1/2 years later, the boob looks very natural. No nip, and Barbie boob still, but all good things in time.
Give me shout, I'll help!
love
a
p.s. Hi all, that chemo fatigue took about 3 months for me to lift, Kitty Cat. Be sure you are really resting afterwards. Like do nothing at all.
xoxo
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Just checking in after a busy week. So many things have happened over the last few days...just want to say that you are all in my thoughts, Congratulations on the recent exchanges, best wishes on you lat flap Jennifer, I hope your energy returns soom Kittycat....sounds like your doing all the right things. I know I've missed so many of you and hope you are all doing well and recovering easily.
Anybody heard from Shybird....I have been reading about her surgery and hope everything turns out for the best.
I want to start to do some upper body work. I understand that this has to be done carefully and not overdone because we don't want to mess with the pecks and our implants....that said, I have found that I need to find a way to even up the way I use my body. My right peck has been tighter than my left peck from the beginning. I am right handed and do housework, gardening etc with the right hand and arm. I am going to start trying to do some free weights and yoga (something I always did in the past). I know I need to go carefully but I also need to give my left peck a chance to catch up with my right
I found a good link about free weights after mastectomy that others may enjoy http://cchealth.clevelandclinic.org/be-well-enews/lifting-weights-after-mastectomy-now-encouraged I also know that I must be careful doing any weight bearing on my arms in yoga poses...like down dog, which I love =(, plank pose etc. If anyone has any information on yoga or free weights after DMX I would love to see it.Wishing everyone strength and healing,
Laura2
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Laura, I'm with you. I have bat wing flap arms now and need arm exercises that do not involve my pecs!!! Post lat flap I was told never to do:
Butterfly w weight machine or butterfly swim stroke
pull down weight machine
push ups of any sort.
We need somebody to come on and tell us what we can do.
.thanks!
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Jenjo- feel free to PM me if you have any questions. My pics are posted as well.
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Laura2- Thanks so much for the link regarding free weights. The research was out of the Cleveland Clinic which is highly respected. I thought it interesting that working with free weights actually helped with lymphedema. I was going to resume my work out with free weights after my exchange but after reading the article I am going to start out working with a PT instead. Thank you!
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Laura2, Re yoga, a nice description of how to start up again after MX (and recon) is here: http://www.yogajournal.com/practice/952. This jibes with what my own yoga teacher instructed me so there are at least 2 senior teachers who agree on this, if that gives you confidence. A second take on the question is here: http://www.yogajournal.com/for_teachers/2015. Its not so specific but suggests time frames. Hope those are of some use.
I hope everyone with recent exchanges/surgeries is recovering well and got the desired results. Best wishes to upcoming surg gals - yippee-squishee!!
CS
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Laura2 - Thanks for the link on the article on free weights. I too am looking for some advice on the subject. My arms have really gotten flabby and I really need to start doing something about it but do not even know where to start.
Donna
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I found out at my last PS visit that after exchange I would be going home with drains, again, because she is going to be using more Alloderm. She said if I didn't have the Alloderm, no drains, but didn't say why and I forgot to ask. She did say the younger you are (and the longer you are likely to have your implants) the more she likes to use Alloderm to support the implant. Did anyone else's PS use it as well for exchange?
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Hi Kate:
I had drains when they removed my right implant, I also had drains last month when they rebuilt my right breast with tissue from my stomach, each time there was some drainage, not as much as following the BMX but still enough. As much as I hated them my incissions did heal beutifully.
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I had drains for the exchange and PS didn't used Alloderm. Maybe I'm too old? (47) Anyway I was glad to have the drains... I healed quickly and no infection so it was worth it.
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