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Welcome, SDB! And congrats on finishing rads - now you can start to put your life back together. I gained 22 chemo pounds, so I hear you about post-dx weight and total lack of energy. Ruth is right - try to do just one thing "exercisy" every day. (Good word, Ruth, BTW.) Think of it this way - you made time for rads every day - so why not take a few minutes of what was rads time and devote it to taking a walk or doing something exercise-y. This is a great group - so glad you decided to join us!
My colonoscopy done - whew! Ruth - thanks so much for the tip about transitioning to liquids the day before you start your all-liquid day. That really helped make the prep easier. Things were OK, but he wants me back in a year as there were a couple of areas he wants to keep an eye on. And here I was hoping for a 5 year date.

Not a lot of exercise for me lately, unless you count running down the hall to the bathroom for the last two days.
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Welcome SDB and jump right in! Mary, try not to engage in magnified future thinking and well done on getting through yesterday.
Freestyle step, body attack, body balance t the gym this morning and 5.71k run country run this afternoon. This is my peak workout day of the week and feeling good.
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Lilac - you're absolutely right about not getting ahead of myself. (Another good term "magnified future thinking.) When I was first dx, someone told me: "Don't go there until you get there." I've since adopted that as my mantra for all things medical and otherwise. I think doing that as best as I could absolutely saved my sanity, especially in those early days after dx.
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Oh wow - what a nice friendly group. I can tell I'm going to love it here. You're all so encouraging!!
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Hi Everyone -
I haven't posted for weeks because it was getting old to give the same boring cardio updates. However, now I am done chemo (YEAAAA!) and I need your help and advice. Prior to chemotherapy I ran at least five miles a day and often much more. A couple weeks into chemo and I was so sick that I decided to just make certain to do an hour of light cardio everyday. I finished chemo three weeks ago and decided this week to try running. Day #1 I ran for one minute and was wiped out. Day # 2 I managed 2 minutes. I've taken breaks from running before but I was always able to get right back to it. WTH! This is incredible. Can anyone give me advice on how to get back to running and an estimate of how long it normally takes?
The good news is that I am back to lifting weights and that feels great. I'm not as strong as I was but at least I can do it. I also started a yoga class for cancer survivors and I love it.
Weird things have happened with my weight. I've clearly gained weight during chemo but I look the same and my clothes still fit the same. It's very odd. I should be up a size or two. Oh well. Not complaining. Surgery in two weeks and then good old tamoxifen.
Thanks in advance.
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Mary can give you actual 'running after chemo' advice. I don't run (unless there is food involved
), but I can say DON'T expect that you will jump back in like you would have after a 'normal' break. It is going to take awhile to get your whole system back in balance. What my suggestion would be is to start with walking......work up to a speed walking pace, and when you feel good doing that, then start back with the running.....and give yourself plenty of time to work into it, you have the whole rest of your life! 
Mary, DH was reading his prep instructions and said, "Well, this won't be so bad. It says you can have bread, crackers, pasta and vegetables." I said, 'WHAT? Give me that sheet!" (pause to look it over) "You dork! Those are all the things that you CAN'T eat!"
Here are the Wednesday Women Walkers emerging from hibernation to walk outside. It felt GREAT!
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Welcome Newbies!!!
This is the place to be! You can start out sitting on the couch and "suddenly," a year later, you'll be saying things like:
"Just finished 5k training day 8! It's getting easier."
It's The Voices!!! They make you want to type

I also hooped a bit with a cheap but sparkly hula hoop I found in town today. Odd...but it's a bit smaller than my others and I have to move slower to keep it up. What's up with that?
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hbcheryl - My point was that I can only run for 1 minute. Even that is doubtful.
Warrior Woman - glad to see you back. You never bored me. On the contrary when I realized you were exercising during chemo you inspired me doubly. Be patient with your body now. Do what you can when you can and build slowly.
pat01 - it is nice to do something with the old hubby, isn't it. Hubby and I walk together once a week. Its a bit fast for me (he will slow down if he sees me panting or lagging behind
) but I enjoy it so much because it's together time.And I get to log it.
Ruth - I can never thank you enough for teaching me to log my exercise. It keeps me going.
Slowdeepbreaths - start gently. After rads I could only do 3 minutes on the exercise bike and that was with difficulty. I added a bit at a time as I could. I still can't do as much as I want to but at least I am doing something.
Wonderland - why spread pine needles? I gather you pick them up from one part of the garden and strew them about another part? (Can you tell I haven't lived in a house for a long time?)
I am learning so many interesting things here (Nihahi and the toque, etc. By the way, how is that pronounced "Tuk" or "Took"?)
Hula hoop question - what is best to wear for starting to hula?
Tonight - 30 minutes - 10km - exercise bike.
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Ruth - I like your DH's idea of colonoscopy prep!

Warrior - I didn't start running till a few years after chemo, so I can't tell you about running after chemo. But I was doing the elliptical so that's aerobic and is probably similar. Before dx I could do an solid hour on an elliptical at a pretty high setting. Chemo hit me hard, and I had to pretty much give up any kind of exercise except some walking by the end. But two weeks after my last chemo I hopped on an elliptical for the first time. I managed exactly 5 minutes before having to stop, and the machine kept blipping off because I was going so slowly. Wow, was that discouraging.
But I kept at it, and eventually could do 5 minutes more, then 5 minutes more. I won't kid you - it was a more than a few months before I could even manage a good half hour, and that was still at a lower setting than I used to do. Like Ruth and Bounce said, it will take a lot longer to get back to exercise after chemo than it would after a normal break. As an onc once said, the point of chemo is to poison you as much as they can, just short of killing you. That's what you're recovering from. Chemo has an impact on every cell of your body, so be kind to yourself and give your body a chance to heal itself. Start slowly, do what you can, and do not get frustrated if it doesn't come back quickly. It will come in time, but you may have to be more patient than you want to be. 0 -
Warrior - You might be doing too vigorous after chemo, and outside running is much harder than movement inside on an elliptical (in this scenario). Why don't you try first building endurance on the elliptical or EFX machine. I started with the EFX machine and eventually my endurance level increased. I started with only 5 minutes.
Slow Deep Breath: Are you also a Triple Negative Survivors? I was looking at your profile line - did you have two tumors, one ER+ and one ER-? Do you know about Metformin?
Reporting in: 4 mile mountain hike - 73 minutes .... was on track to get done in under an hour, but ran into a nice lady and strolled the last mile of it! Still wiped out from it, it was 8:00AM and already the sun was heating up the trail.
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You know, I didn't have chemo or radiation so I cannot even try to address perspective on those, but I've learned to look at the BMX surgery, exchange surgery and now my upcoming revision surgery partially as a way for God to knock me upside the head and slow me down for a while so I have a much more conscious appreciation for what I can do (or get back to doing) physically. Prior to this journey I took my physical abilities and ease of mobility and general good health waaayyyyy too much for granted. Now when I walk or run or do crab crawls or triceps dips or any of the other wild and crazy things my group instructor comes up with I am much more thankful for the ability and strength He has given back to me.
Wow, I damn near started crying just now
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I really appreciate the feedback everyone. I was able to manage to do an hour a day of the elliptical or stairstepper at a lower resistance than what I normally did during chemo. I just never expected running would knock me on my a**. I also received great feedback on the runner's thread. In two weeks I have my exchange surgery. I'l try to run (walk/run) again after I'm healed. It's unbelievable what chemo does. I'm lucky it didn't kill me. I go back and forth between feeling grateful for all I do have and being sad as heck for what I've lost. I plan to take back as much as I can.
Dulci - BTW, changed my mind on the implants again. I'm getting your boobs!
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Got .5 mile in, plus some fresh air today!
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Warrior,
I'm cracking up!!! Are you getting my first boobs or the do-over???? ROFL!!!!
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Welcome SDB and hello everyone else.
30 mins treadmill and 20 mins stat bike. Just could not get that remaining 10 mins!
natsfan, I had colonoscopy 3 years ago, then December 2013 and because of a flat polyp the gastro doc was afraid to touch having another one Monday by a colon surgeon.
ruthbru, I like your DH's take on the prep. I have my prep Sunday so will take your advice and 'try' to do only liquids Saturday, or mostly liquids. Yeah, I have a lovely weekend to look forward to.
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Welcome slowdeepbreaths. Glad you can join us.
Ran a 5k on the Elliptical tonight in preparation for the real one in a few days.
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I walked 50minutes today. It's so much easier to exercise and want to do it in warm weather.
Welcome to sdb. Come join us!
Warrior I was shocked at my lack of ability after chemo. I started with walking and couldn't do 10 minutes. I couldn't walk one flight of stairs without stopping. So I recommend you walk a little and do your minute of running and maybe next week you'll do two. But yes it was scary frightening that I may never be normal again. And it seemed to take longer than I expected to improve.
Sweet glad your foot is feeling better. My yoga teacher said hold those stretches for 30 seconds as that's how long it takes the muscle memory. I don't know if that's true but it seemed to fix my feet.
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Back from the Sweet Sunny South--land of Barb's Home Cooking and Elvis Shrine, Bang-Bang Wanda's Fireworks and a Waffle House every 500 yards!
Belated birthday greetings to Ann; welcome, SDB; congratulations on finishing chemo, WW; and Nats Fan--Nats Park looks almost as beautiful as PNC Park!

Did 40 miles on the bike today at the Great Allegheny Passage.
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twohobbies - yup, doc recommended 4 reps of 30-seconds 4x a day. It's already getting much better - enough that I forgot to even do the stretches today! I barely noticed any pain in my right foot and left was painful enough a couple of times to cause a slight limp for 10-20 steps but not painful enough to force me to remember to do the stretching. I'm very pleased with the progress because I was really afraid I was gonna be crippled up all summer.
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natsfan....don't you just hate it when machines "blip you off"!!!!
recovery is almost always harder and takes longer than we want to admit to.....pushing too hard and expecting too much of a body challenged by chemo or surgery rarely succeeds.
34 laps in the pool today, because.....woke up to 1" of snow this morning
! Yesterday it got up to 20C, last night it snowed, it's now 10C....ah..spring. toque...pronounced like "two" with a k on the end.
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I did Zumba & stayed for yoga......ommmmm.......
Sweet, now I am very appreciative of the miracle of an ordinary day, with ordinary problems and joys. It sure does put things in perspective.....most things that people get all bent out of shape about really do not matter at all!
It took me about two YEARS to feel just about 'normal'; but now, because I have really worked on it, I feel better than I even did going in (and I felt good then). So we have to just start where we find ourselves and move forward from there, accepting that it's going to be a journey. Gee, maybe yoga is rubbing off on me.
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Bounce I can't run worth a lick, I can dance and I can fight but at running I'm just plain hopeless, never could even as a kid so don't think it's in my future
When I first started at the gym I couldn't do anything worth a lick so I used to get on the stair climber and climb for a minute and then get off then go to a bike and ride for a few minutes I just pretended that I was circuit training, and bit by bit I built up my times and in the end before I started classes I could climb on the stair climber for an hour. Sweet glad your foot is doing better. Bluetail ahhh Waffle House, we don't have them here and what I'd give to go to a Cracker Barrel mmmmmmDid my Sh'bam class and tonight did Spin
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hbcheryl - I had some Tamoxifen cog fog going on - checked back and it was StillrunningNLM who did all that running.
What you said was very interesting and encouranging to me. Yes - even as a child I could not run! Whichever team I was assigned to for the relay race on Sports Day knew they would lose the race - no matter how much of a lead they had - when I started to run - it was like slow motion happening.
No-one wanted me on their sports team - and I can't blame them. Silly teachers should have just let me sit on the side and not make me spoil everyone's fun.
But since starting to exercise (either walking or exercise-bike) I fantasize about running. I don't mean jogging (not to belittle jogging) - but I want to run like the wind!
Maybe I'll just build up more stamina and give jogging a few meters at a time a chance.
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Patoo, good luck on the colonoscopy! Bluetail, the Great Allegheny Passage looks ideal for long rides.
Yes, it is possible to get back to normal even at Stage IV. I am extremely lucky. (Oh, I should post this on the Grateful Thread.) I've always had health issues and could even get a doctor to exempt me from any strenuous exercise (running, swimming, etc.) as a kid. But being diagnosed with bone mets at 50 somehow motivated me to heal my body and I'm still here, "healthier" than I ever was. I can even run now, although I still can't swim. I did the Couch to 5K, so I can say it works!
Walked half an hour in the airport where there were no trees around blowing pollen.
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Didn't get a walk at lunch yesterday - they had delivered one of the new modular office trailers, so we frittered away our lunchtime exploring it. And then went out with hubby to the movies - saw Grand Budapest Hotel - quirky yet charming movie, it was fun. Sort of in the vein of Lemony Snickets. And lots of star cameos.
Hoping for a walk at lunch today, and hope to get to the gym after lunch.
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Today I am taking a break from the gym and returning to my boring hour of stair climbing in my house. But that's only to save time because today I am going out to have some fun. I'm heading to an auction to bid on stuff that I don't need.
Dolce - In 2 weeks I'm getting the Mentor Ultra High Profile Rounds. I was swayed from the anatomicals because I don't want sagging. I took a bunch of photos of boobs that I thought looked good to my PS and asked her what she needed to do to make me look like those and this is what she came up with. She said worst case scenario is fat grafting if they look like oranges on my chest. *Fingers crossed.*
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Right on (((HeidiHill)))! Warrior Women good that you got your answers and good for you S&S on progress. Go for it Bounce!
Body balance and pink pilates this morning, just got in from a 5.37k run did it in 35:30 and coming down time wise. Now heading out to 4pm yoga class.
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Howdy all-
SDB, welcome aboard! I love what Ruth said, I think many of us on here feel like we are in much better shape out of this than going into it-so don't fret, stay on here, and you will be MARVELOUS

OK, I didn't follow the entire conversation, but I'm laughing about the boob switching. I have volcano boob-BS asked me if I wanted to get referral to PS, it must bother him, ha ha. I've grown very used to it.
I've been on a good path with exercise and diet for one-count 'em-one month. I have a gimpy knee, but I love to run-it's more like slogging. But it is the best mind clearer I know.
Mary and Patoo, I do the same with the pre fast before the real fast colon prep. It makes a huge difference...nice and sparkly clean for gastro as well. Aren't I polite? HA!
Did 9 holes of golf with the ladies, a 3.5 mile slog with the dog and an hour with weights yesterday. My DH has a screwed up knee from a ski accident, and is going to PT today; I'll go work out while he is getting the treatment.
Have a great one ladies!
Kim
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Hi everyone...... Sorry I have been MIA. I was beyond buried with work, working something like 3 weeks in a row. I can say that I heard The Voices last night though. I had forgotten to do my weights, and got out of bed to do my routine! Not that I was unexercised, as had done a 5k run earlier in the day.
Yesterday, was a downtime day, as had fried my brain with all the work, and was tired and grumpy. Back to things today as my list is growing, not getting smaller. Still have taxes to get together, so I can file for an extension and finish later. I could tell that my life is on the dull side, as excited about my new Swiffer mop! I never had room for a mop in my old place, but here I have more floor space, so no longer willing to scrub kitchen and bathroom floors on my hands and knees.
Warrior....I managed during and after chemo using a lot of things like GU gel to get me revved. They worked! I could not have done the Seattle-to-Portland 6 weeks post radiation without all these energy potions. I also highly recommend chocolate-lavender macaroons! They turned out to be the magic bullet post radiation. I ate them, and suddenly my energy started to rise.
Seriously, about six weeks after my last chemo, I noticed a major increase in energy. Then it tanked during the final two weeks of radiation, but not to the point that I couldn't finish two 45 mile cycling events immediately post radiation. My energy started to climb again at the 3.5 week point following radiation, and I was able to complete all the summer cycling events, even though I had to walk more hills than normal.
About six months following radiation, I noticed that I was suddenly a lot faster. I am still getting stronger, and now stronger than ever cycling. I can't say when the magic recovery thing happened post radiation, as took out my ankle cycling which took my mind off any recovery issues due to chemo. About a year ago, I started running for the first time in my life, and that greatly increased my overall fitness. I can say that I am still recovering, but now in slow increments. I don't notice this so much in my ability to exercise as in the fact that my hair is thicker.
So hang in there. I did not gain weight with chemo....in fact, lost the amount I needed to lose. The loss of cardio function is real, and I tested that one as wanted to find out. But you do get it back, and I believe that exercise gets you there faster. My 2 cents. - Claire
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Going back a couple of pages, I was intrigued to read the info from Michelle Holmes. She is the reason I take aspirin daily, and it's nice to know that all the exercise I do really is the best other thing I can think of post treatment. I have corresponded with her, and she is an amazing lady.
I counted up the met hours against what I need to do to be able to eat everything I want to eat and not gain weight! Amazingly, it also comes to 24. I think we have all found the real "magic bullet" here.
Plus, nothing like being able to rock a corset. - Claire
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