Can we have a forum for "older" people with bc?
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Mimi u'r always on some adventure and the perfect person to take care of kids and especially u'r grandkids they are u'r blessings and must really enjoy u as u enjoy them---But I know it's hard work, but have fun.
It got so cool today and still a little with rain. But it's fine with me, I'm not dancing in it but it's better than humidity, and it's almost the middle of August--the summer is almost over, it flew by like every other season.
I'm awake at my odd hours which means I'll need naps today and I really don't like that. After all I have a job to do LOL
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Happy Wed. to everyone!
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Gratitude bestows reverence, allowing us to encounter everyday epiphanies, those transcendent moments of awe that change forever how we experience life and the world.
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Hi all
Doug's new home is moving along. They say the new kitchen will be in by Tues and the new master bath by next Fri. The next big hurdles are the inspection and the appraisal. As long as those go thru, he has a new home. I can't understand it taking 2months to close if everything is ready by the end of next week.
The only experience I have had with suicide is with Doug's sister. When Tracy was pregnant, Missy took a ****load of pills, drank a full bottle of liquor and slit her wrists. Thank God her roommate came home at lunch to grab something she had forgotten. Missy was critical for days, I am very happy to tell you that 11years later, not only is she healthy, she is married and has 2 boys, and a good job. When I saw her recently though, she said she thought she needed counseling, she feels sad and overwhelmed most of the time even though her life is everything she could have ever wished for.
I have said many times, though, that I watched my husband slowly commit suicide for years by changing his meds doses or stopping them completely without Dr' knowledge or approval, eating things he knew were going to play havoc with his sugar levels, not following Dr orders, etc. Don't get me wrong, I know everyone cheats once in a while on any diet, or forgets to take a pill occasionally, but with him, it was daily. He was just going to do what he wanted, when he wanted, even when his tests showed increasing kidney and heart failure. The sicker he got, the more he disregarded any medical advice. It was very sad to watch.
My heart breaks for Robin Williams family, as well as for all of you on here that have suffered from similar situations
I had something very unusual happen the other night. I have to start by telling you I have never experienced anything like this ever and I am not at all what I would call a particularly spiritual person, although I am a Christiian. I was dreaming, and don't remember the details of the dream now ( I did when I first woke up) but I clearly remember a voice saying "you are healed" and I remember looking around to try to see who said it. I have no idea what it meant, although my DD#3 and I took 4 kids to a hands on museum yesterday and were there for hours and I kept up with them the whole time and had very little discomfort with my arms and chest last night. Just thought I'd throw it out there
It is hotter than hell in Fl right now - the kind of heat that just smacks you in the face as you walk outside the door. It's easier to just stay inside.
Hope everyone is having a good Wed.
Anne
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Cami, happy napping. I stretch out most days after lunch. I read or write in my journal or surf the net or, of course, sleep. It's like a mid day reflection/reorganization time.
Mimi, I did morning before school care for some of my grandkids for several years. I sure miss it. I enjoyed knowing what was on their schedules each day. Enjoy your time with your grandchildren. When the kids' parents aren't around, don't you find a different kind/level of interaction? I admire how much energy you have. I am blaming the Arimidex for my lowered energy level but you seem to have overcome that.
Anxiety is an issue for me going waaayyy back. Today I have an appointment with the counselor who is helping me deal with anxiety issues. I wish I had found her back in my 20's. Oh well, 50 years later proves it's never too late to change.
Have a good day everyone!
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Good morning Carole, Jackie, and Anne. The page turned while I was posting.
Anne, what a wonderful dream.
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Beauty of a morning here though it will be a bit warmer than like. I have lots of work to do inside today, so no problem no matter how it goes.
Mimi, you have it going on. We get so much help with our lives but often just don't "figure" out where it is coming from exactly. It is ok if we don't, but really nice when we do. I have the feeling a lot that "help" has arrived but not always sure just who is 'helping' now.
I have felt for the last 2o yrs. or so that we were never meant to go it alone so to speak, but before that ( before my Mom passed on ) I often felt alone -- especially when some part or other of my life was being especially burdensome. I still sometimes don't like the struggles which can be difficult - but now I really understand --- what is meant to be will happen. If I really can't manage something -- help, recognized or not will come. Being so human though, I still get anxious about things and some of it is likely impatience.
Mimi....good for you. Of course, you're tied up for the next ten years. With a wonderful thing too. Fantastic.
Cammie -- the working woman. Maybe you are still in recovery from your last big party and having to do all the work too. Well, you can make some of us tired I think. You just have that git' it done attitude and just keep moving on. I think you know all about that 'boost' we get from the Universe too.
Carole, sorry to hear about the computer woes. Sure hope that can be fixed. We all live so vicariously on your vacation with you. The bike rides, canoe excursions, fishing and the occasional meal out. Here's hoping but just want you to know that we do appreciate the little check-in while the computer Wi-Fi is wonky.
Waving hi to all I've not mentioned -- your there, but I just didn't call out your name.
Be checking back later....every break I take today.
Blessings
Jackie
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Hi Ladies--
Oh Anne I like that dream--it's a good one.
I thought today was Thursday but alas It is not, but I'll take it anyway.
Carole hope things are straightening out. And yes we do live thru u for vacationing. That's probably why I'm so tired all the time.
Oh I hope everyone has a good evening.
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MIMI love watching the grandchildren, spending time with them is so important to me, the younger ones, my oldest is 18 then 16, they are ok want the others to remember me, my daughters's kids...they learn so much from us, different rules and different ways they are spoken to etc.,Sally you do what you have to...I have been depressed off and on, with medication like now but without and therapy before....there is such a stigma without mental illness...it is just sad....nothing wrong with having issues...
Anne don't care how hot florida is I want to live there, so wish I had the money, etfc to move there cause i would live my final days there, yes I would miss the gc but that was my dream before cancer..
Hugs Jackie!!
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Morning gals! Blondie, you like the heat! Can you just go stay in Florida awhile? And what is the "gc?" I'de ask Cammi, but she is still asleep probably...
Depression is one of the worst illnesses anyone could ever deal with.... But don't they, have meds that sort of alleviate that? I mean one time my Husband was taking Clonipin? Is that what it was.... Doesn't look right..... but I know some people have to take meds, just to correct some sort of imbalance! A genetic dis-order.
And even drugs, illnesses or treatments can cause depression....
It's when they try and self-medicate, with other drugs and alcohol, that just makes their depression even worse......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Williams
It's just that I have a hard time understanding Robin Williams, with the "Depression" diagnosis.... Depression in itself, might lead to substance abuse, but then you get on that vicious cycle, where prescribed meds can't help you..... All of my sympathy goes for the family..... his kids.... there is ALways a better way out, than to take your own life.
So many people don't get the chance for a full life.... Children, and even older people just thank God for another day!
Jackie, did you get your house innards all spiffy? Yes, you have to take frequent breaks.... drink chocolate cokes in between scrubbings!
DD is coming over today.... walking up to Starbucks, and probably watch another Shirley Temple movie...
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By going along with feelings, you unify your emotional, mental and bodily states. When you try to fight or deny them, you divorce yourself from the reality of your being.
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I'd say good morning but it is late afternoon. I think it is hard to understand depression. I also think is one of those things that would not make total sense to anyone who didn't have it. Most of us are use to the " mild " depressions that don't have the lasting quality of clinical depression.
I also think it is not un-common for people who have clinical depression to drink, do drugs, or overeat, or whatever allows them to somehow "soothe" even though it is a temporary reprieve. I also think in Robin's case and this could be for a lot of people --- the types of drugs he would have needed to use would have robbed him of his ability to be funny -- to be who he actually was.
To us -- we would say likely -- whatever it takes to fix the problem !! That is pretty much what I did with my treatment for this disease. But there wasn't any doubt that I would stay who I was in pretty much every way and be almost as good as new. The me who I have come to know was not going to be totally squashed so I could live.
Poor analogy, but I think that was Robin's choice. Lose the part of him that made him the person we all loved, or try to walk a fine line and hope that something was found that would aid him without destroying him. The disease got him first.
Easy for someone to say it doesn't matter, but what if in order to live we had to give up our hearing and sight, or mental faculties. We might be inclined to try and hold off in the hope that we did not have to give up SOOOO much of ourselves and in the meantime hope that a better answer would appear.
I really don't understand that kind of depression, but I think Robin ( like I assume almost all people with severe depression would ) probably tried as hard as he could, but he was trying that hard for a long, long time. When does a person reach the make-break point???? How many, days, months and years can someone fight their monster before they grow so weary that they just give up.
He simply reached the point where it wasn't real any more to keep putting one foot in front of the other. There, but for the grace of God -- I was not given that cross to endure.
Blessings
Jackie
ETA: I don't know how wrong it is for a person to take their own life, but my girl-friend had the same diagnosis as Robin. She didn't remain on Earth either. She was a very spiritual person as well. Maybe because of her ( because of all the years I know she spent trying to find an answer ) I can't feel all that much upset. This is not an illness ( just like our cancer ) that is chosen. I do think some people are fortunate with the therapies and therapists they choose and are able to get through and become largely well. I can't hold it against those who don't. It I think, doesn't stem from lack of trying. I have never been so DEVOID of hope -- yet, I know my friend Joanie was very much so which was very un-like her before her illness took hold. She lost her ability to feel sufficient as a person. Liked you are being kicked hard every day til' you are battered and bruised. One day down the road, to stop that pain --- you will say Uncle. Because you will have finally been broken. That is all that took place with Robin. I don't think it was self medicating though that did allow him to remain who he was, but the fact, that he finally could not take the pain of being annilated one more day and still have hope. When hope dies totally, I don't think any of us last long.
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Read tis afternoon that Robin Williams had been diagnosed as having the beginnings of Parkinson's Disease. That disease has as one of its characteristics depression. Well, that would explain what finally got to Robin. Not only his original diagnosis, bad enough all by itself, but another helping through a second disease.
Jackie
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Hi Ladies, yes I heard about RW being diagnosed and thought the same thing. And there are meds to be on for this bt until they can get the right one or more than one it can take years, Well it did for my DD and she always ended with a series of shock treatment which was the last resort, but that would help until it started again and she was like that for IDK maybe 8-10 yrs, with some relapses but not as many, at times she was catatonic spending time on ICU because she needed one on one attention/ It's a very difficult disease and meds are so complicated she now is on meds with one being for epilepsy and some others but that was the one that worked for her. Oh well--it's tough.
I' think I'm about ready to relax now--Tired tonight.
Hope everyone has a good nights sleep/
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Cami and Jackie are such wise ladies. Depression ie RW is sometimes too hard to sustain the fight. Others here too are equally wise. For all the joking that we enjoy there is a wise side that comes with our common experiences and, of course, our collective age. That age must be 60+ something times twelve or fifteen gals or more. Someone with a calculator can do the math.
I've had a little trouble getting the six year old boy to put down the electronic games and come outdoors with me and the two year old. But today I struck it rich with both boys. We took snacks on my golf cart and I let them take photographs with my phone and get them into a slide show of our day. The pic the six year old took are pretty good. He also enjoyed posing in odd places like on top of one of those giant round hay bales. I took a step stool along for that purpose. Today was the first he declined the need to go home when I offered. We went sneaking up on a crane or blue heron, deer, and pictures of tall cattails by the lake. Also ornamental iron details on picnic tables and a pretty pic of a blue and grey feather. The 2 almost 3 year old mainly took pictures of his thumb over the lens which comes out a pretty red.
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Good Morning.
Mimi u really know how to entertain kids--all the things u did and getting them away from all this techy stuff is no easy task. Glad u had such a wonderful day.
I slept good last nite---Yippee and having my iced coffee now---but I'll still take a nap. It's a little chilly this morning, kind of dampy too--I feel that for sure.
I hope everyone has a nice day and Chevy I'm sure u enjoyed u'r day yesterday.
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"The only difference between stumbling blocks and stepping stones is the way you use them."
American Proverb
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Oh it is just such a great morning. Yesterday morning was just ok. I stayed up till 3 a.m. in the morning cleaning -- just darn determined to get to some cleaning that I was happy as a clam for months leaving go. Pulling things away from walls, heavy duty sweep and then, heavy duty steam mopping. Lots of other things along the way. So, I just kept going till I made it all the way through.
That meant from lack of sleep ( which I'm good at ) made yesterday mainly a very foggy day for me. I even dosed a couple of times after I got home from work. Now that I have all that done, I can get started on some other things that were hanging fire.
Mimi -- you almost make me want to be a kid again. How fun. I think it is hard for those born in the electronic age to experience a life ( personal enjoyment and fun ) you have to create yourself. Like your parents, if something is always there, you almost would not be able to realize a world without. Most of our kids grew up w/o computers and electronics, but they were here -- just had not graduated into being a standard item in the home. In fact, it was only later in our kids growing up years that we got a "movie player" and never did have "games" used on the t.v. We still have a movie player but nothing else. We seldom take the time to watch movies anymore, but still enjoy one now and then.
Tonight is the first night of the Balloon Fest. It is pretty much a long standing tradition here. We always like to go the first night as this is the only night they do fireworks and they are always very, very pretty. Better than 4th. of July to me. I just hate to miss them.
Hope you all have a fabulous Friday.
Blessings,
Jackie
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Good Morning All!
I walked shortly after 6 this morning ... crisp air and different shadows compared to my almost 8 o'clock walks. I love the natural changes I notice when I change the time of my walk.
Mimi, what a great idea allowing the grands to do a picture tour of the day. What forethought to take a step ladder!
Cami, I too take a nap when I sleep well. I don't always sleep, but I find that lying down after lunch resets my vision for the rest of the day.
Jackie, thanks, as always for the quote. Today's make me smile as well as think.
I guess I should have breakfast ... Greek yogurt ... I am out of blueberries so it will be a little bland. I would use honey on top, but since I am going to the Cheesecake Factory for lunch, I better not.
Happy Friday Everyone!
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Jackie, when you say balloon fest, do you mean hot air balloons?
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Yes, Sally. It is the big hot air balloons. Un-like most places -- our hot air balloons land in our wooded park, where the Fest is held. There is a pond there and the balloons are all set up, and aired up around the pond. Just at dusk and until dark, they do balloon glows which are so pretty.
The balloons replicate themselves perfectly in the pond so it is a real sight to see. As well, people are not separated but can walk in and around all the balloons and talk to the pilots and crew, peek into the gondolas and otherwise interact -- close up and personal. Most of the other places people are not allowed to be so close.
Part of the park is set aside ( not too far from the balloon area, for vendors, and there is the usual foods -- hot dogs, brats, barbecued ribs, funnel cake. All too expensive ( we at before we go ) for us as well as several different performers on stages. We really do enjoy the Fest.
There is a person who sells her home-made pottery there every year and every year I try to buy at least one piece of pottery. I don't need it -- I just like it -- and I do use it.
It is something to look forward to and it usually sort of sets the mood for me to get ready for Fall. It is not so very long afterward it seems when we start to see the changes that start Fall sometimes dramatically.
Jackie
p.s. I haven't tried it, but you might put in your search engine ( Internet ) the words Centralia Illinois Balloon Fest. I wouldn't doubt they may show a picture of the pond and balloons.
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Holy Chit I never knew there was a balloon fest in any part of IL, I just thought NM and Nevada had them. How fun to go to Jackie--enjoy u'rself, I think I would.
BTW guess what AMERICAN said that quote today??????
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I just put in Centralia Balloon Fest in my browser. Gave several choices but I just used the one that had only those words. Came up and had several different views and video's of the balloons, as well as one of the fireworks. Wow !!!! They did a great job of the video's.
Hmmm, now which American said my quote today.....hmmm. I'll have to think on that for a while.
Jackie
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There' a balloon fest in Plano TX every year. Last year we watched one in trouble and it nearly landed in our yard but made it down a couple. There was plenty of room and no wires but then he had to go to plan B. It's always fun to watch them go by. We wave and the people wave at us.
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Teacher...another thing I've been told ( no idea how true it may or may not be ) is that sounds carries really well and for some reason, people in a balloon can hear just yourself and another person have a normal conversation with each other. Every word -- loud and clear.
I really watch what I say ( not that I think I go around saying things I shouldn't ) when balloons are around. This is something if true, you would not suspect and would otherwise feel the freedom of making a lot of statements feeling no one would ever know what you said.
Jackie
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What a lovely upbeat day today ladies! Balloon festivals and making wonderful memories with children and lunch at a Cheesecake Factory!
I've crossed over the worst of chemo #2 and we made the 4 hour drive to join my Dad for his 88th birthday yesterday. His investment company sponsored an evening dinner cruise on the St Croix River at Hudson, WI, we had a wonderful evening, perfect weather. Even with my wonky taste buds I still enjoyed the meal. Lots of multicolored sailboats on the river added to the visual beauty. Today just hanging out here with Dad, we'll head back home tomorrow afternoon.
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Well I tried to post a bunch of pictures taken years ago, that I'm sure we are all familiar with, like a wringer washer, old style phone, Elmers Glue..... those bonnet hair-dryers, etc, but it wouldn't post...
I'll see if I can do it another way!
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Puffin -- how fantastic is that. Sharing your Dad's birthday ( such an important man in our life ) and then a lounge day with him just to top it off. I do wish the taste buds had been perfect, but the truly perfect part was that you were there and that you have a 'special' guy to celebrate with on birthdays. It is one of the times I really miss my parents. I live a bit vicariously through those who still enjoy their parents......so good for you.
Jackie
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Jackie, the balloon fest sounds like a visual treat and lots of fun.
Mimi, your grandkids are lucky to have such an imaginative grandma!
Today was another beautiful day here in northern MN. DH and I went into town (Park Rapids) and had breakfast at the Great Northern café. Then we biked 23 miles round trip. This afternoon back at the resort, I watered the flowers. It got warm enough that we turned on the a/c.
August is going by so fast. Before we know it, we will be leaving the next day after Labor Day and doing some travel to visit some friends and relatives.
Hello to everyone.
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Jackie - "teacher, teacher" - I know about the quote. It must be Cami!!!
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