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  • ang7894
    ang7894 Posts: 427


    Yay for Eileenohio 3 year Ned !!!!!!  Great news and good to here from you.

  • ashla
    ashla Posts: 1,566

    Yippee ! So happy Eileen Ohio !!!

    Thank you Dr Slamon and the thousands of scientists who preceded him and women who participated in the trials who paved the way for Herceptin . Grateful me:)

  • I gave up contacts over the taxo tears! I will wear them occassionally now, but just never got back into them. As it gets closer to thanksgiving, I think back to everything over the past four years. I got called back to a second mammogram on the day before thanksgiving when the oncall radiologist who was not part of the Women's area came in and her first words were "I'm think I'm going to ruin your day." Next two months went downhill from there.

    I think I mentioned that I started on the low dose of Cymbalta. I am pleased to report that my bad joint pain is literally completely gone. if it weren't for the hot flashes (which are milder on Tamoxifen thank heavens) and some tiredness/lack of initiative, I feel almost normal.

    MRI in a couple weeks to check the implants at their three year mark, which also has the bonus of checking the whole area for potential recurrence. If all clear, I anticipate that will probably be the last big test I will have. I doubt I can talk any potential new doc into much of that. I hope to at least keep the CA 27-29 in the mix, just to know the number.

    I am interested int he genetic test some of you are doing. My OB/GYN gave me brochure on lynch syndrome once. At that time, I didn't really think it applied to me. However, on my dad's side of the family, my grandmother had colon cancer (I think), my aunt had IBD, and my dad dies from a rare duodenal tumor. My mom had a stage one colon tumor that was surgically removed and did not need chemo. I am on the five year plan for colonoscopies.

  • Not on here much these days as too busy with crazy appointments. I am STILL dealing with having had to stop my Herceptin after only 4 doses! Next week I get another MUGA scan and if my heart function is up to 50% or more then my cardiologist said she will speak to the oncologist about me challenging the treatment. My fear of course is that since I only received 4 of the 18 Herceptin treatments my cancer probably will come back. Right now I am dealing with all kinds of scans as I've been having horrible headaches, also found lumps on my remaining breast and just feel so scared! I just want that other breast off ASAP and also to find out one way or another if Herceptin is out of the question for me. I am triple positive and stage 2, grade 2. Invasive Ductal carcinoma with some lobular invasion as well. Lymph nodes all clear.


     

  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653

    Mouser2843 hang in there. There are women that have survived without Herceptin…and you did get 4 doses. Did you get Perjeta? I didn't get that because it wasn't approved but it seems to be really good. Not sure if it's approved in Canada yet but there may be a trial. What chemo are you on?

  • ashla
    ashla Posts: 1,566

    Mouse2843

    Ditto Lago... Each of us is so different and they really do not know for certain what the best dose is for us individually.

    In addition to perjeta they are developing different treatments that may be easier for you to tolerate.

    There is a relatively new but important field called cardiac oncology and Brigham & Women's hospital in Boston is leading the way . Even though you are not in the US, you may be able to get a second opinion in a US hospital .

    Not certain but I think several Canadian girls did. Rozem, perhaps? Don't know if they had to pay out of pocket.

    there.http://www.brighamandwomens.org/Departments_and_Se...

  • moonflwr912
    moonflwr912 Posts: 5,945

    What they said! I too had to quit Herceptin early. I only had half my tx because of EF problems. They did not put me back on probably because I also have a pacemaker. I was a year too early for PERJETA. It's a we shall see type of thing.

    Taxo-tears is pretty well known side effect of TCH. The runny nose is more of the Herceptin. Drippy mess to make the eyes and nose red to go with the bald head! Add the bags beneath the eyes to complete the picture of chemo head. LOL but we get through it, maybe not prettily, but we get THROUGH !!!!!

    Thank you all for the good wishes on 3 years of NED. With my family history I worry. But i had chemo my Mom did not. I had 6 months of Herceptin, my Mom did not. So i am going to go on and try not to wallow in fear all the time. Occasionally I manage to get there though, that's when these boards can realy help!

    Much love to all.

  • rozem
    rozem Posts: 749

    yes i did get a second opinion at DF. Yes you will have to pay out if pocket. Itwas easy and it cost me about 2k all in. Worth every penny

  • Moonflower - Bags under the eyes! IS THAT WHATS CAUSING IT? I just assumed it was the weight gain! Anyone else???

  • moonflwr912
    moonflwr912 Posts: 5,945

    blown away here's a pic of me back then.....

    imageBig enough bags? LOL

  • I definitely have the teary eyes and drippy nose, but so far *knock on wood* no bags. Two more TCHP to go...

  • Moonflower - thanks for sharing, I have 2 small puffy areas under my left eye and 1 large one under the right. I guess there is hope that it will go away when all this is over

  • Does anyone know why some people get Perjeta and some don't?

  • Blownaway -- I'm getting Perjeta as part of my neoadjuvant treatment because I have locally advanced cancer (lump was 5 cm and one node appears compromised), it is Grade 3, and I'm HER2+. You probably wouldn't get it because your cancer isn't as advanced and it's an expensive drug.

  • debiann
    debiann Posts: 447

    I think for right now the protocol for perjeta is for tumors over 2cm and it given before surgery. My BS peformed the lumpectomy before I saw my MO. Originally the tumor was estimated to be 1.5cm but turned out to be 1.9. MO said I would have been a candidate for perjeta had I not already had surgery, but after surgery insurance won't pay for it.  However I've seen some instances on here where patients were able to get their insurance to pay for it even after surgery.

    I Perjeta given for a year like herceptin?

  • I had one node involved and one larger tumor, so I think that's why Perjeta was approved for me. And no, you don't get Perjeta for a year like you do Herceptin. At least, as far as I know people don't keep keep Perjeta.

    From their web site: PERJETA® (pertuzumab) is approved for use prior to surgery in combination with Herceptin®(trastuzumab) and docetaxel in people with HER2-positive, locally advanced, inflammatory, or early stage (tumor is greater than 2 cm in diameter or node positive) breast cancer.

  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653

    Peferta was tested on specific stages and node status. I tried to get into the study. I was the correct stage but they just changed the study and you had to be node positive. I do believe though that if diagnosed now they would give it to me due to tumor size.

    What is comes down to is if they didn't study it then insurance might not cover it.

  • Hi,

    Lago, I was in the Perjeta study for adjuvant chemo. I received Perjeta/placebo every time I received Herceptin- so for the full year. I have no idea if I got it, but I hope so! It's double blind for years and years. Hopefully I will not need to know before that. I'm not sure when the results of this study will be released.

  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653

    Good point momwriter. I could have been on the study and still not have received it.

  • I do not post much but wanted to thanks Lago for her wealth of information! I had a double mastectomy 19 months ago. I still have pain in my reconstructed breasts, slightly worse on the side where the cancer was found. I have had many exams, ultrasounds--everything looks good! Any thoughts? Is this common?

    I was 39 at diagnosis, am 40 right now. I started tamoxifen after finishing six rounds of TCH. I developed ovarian cysts, uterine thickening. Ultimately, I opted to have a hysterectomy with removal of my ovaries/tubes. I had it done laparoscopically last Thursday. I am amazed at how easy my recovery has been. If you are on the fence, please don't be frightened of the surgery itself. I have a very young daughter in addition to my husband, my mom, that really made me want this surgery.

    Did any of you have colonoscopies early due to being diagnosed with BC? Health and happiness to each of you!

  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653

    Hi Hutchins3. Have you discussed this pain with both BS & PS? Sometimes pain can linger. What did they say? I turned 50 two weeks PFC. So I did have my colonoscopy about 4-5 months later. My maternal grandmother died of colon cancer but my gastroentinolgists said it has to be a first degree relative. He didn't see the breast cancer as an issue. I was all clear so I don't have to do it again for 10 years from last one. My mom has to do it every 5 because of my grandmother.

  • Hi Lago--I have been seen by both my PS and BS about it. The pain has been pretty consistent--basically where the tumor was and occasionally in my arm pit. My nerves are shot more than normal. My husband's best friend passed after a five month battle with lung cancer. He was 39, had never smoked, and was diagnosed Stage IV. He leaves behind a one year old, and three year old in addition to his wife and parents. His cancer battle was brief and very brutal. He and my husband went on a trip last January because I was so worried about the stress my husband was under, and he was absolutely fine. His death has shaken me so badly. It was so awful. I think it is making me even more fearful of a recurrence if that is possible. I appreciate all your advice! Thank you so much!

  • lago
    lago Posts: 11,653

    Hutchins3 People pass all the time. Some too young. This is part of life. 2 weeks after I finished chemo I lost one friend (breast cancer) and another friends sister funeral (Non Hodgkins Lymphoma) was that weekend. Both gals were younger than me. One married with a young child. I was devastated. It made this disease so real. But now that more years have passed I realize this is part of life…and I'm still here and healthy.

    Now to re-post my infamous speeches:

    seat belt speech:

    You don't assume you will get into a car accident every time you get in your car. You do put on your seat belt and drive carefully. Same with breast cancer. Eat right, maintain a healthy weight, exercise, and take your hormone therapy (if prescribed). No reason to think you are going to get mets until you actually have a symptom.

    shit happens speech:

    Some people win the lottery and become millionaires too but do you really think that's going to happen to you? Shit happens. Sometimes good shit, sometimes bad shit, but most of the time shit doesn't happen. Don't assume shit is going to happen to you.

    And this one is a bonus for a few others:

    Remember the word "if" is in the middle of the word "life" for a reason. As long as you have life you will always have "what ifs". It's your MO's job to worry about those cancer "What Ifs"

  • Mouser - you may want to check closer to home for cardio-oncology, I live in Calgary, Alberta, Canada and a cardio oncology clinic was just implemented here this year

    Fluffqueen - re: Lynch - genetic testing. My MO referred me for testing on first contact due to significant family (both sides) and personal history - you may want to check with your new MO, discuss your concern

    Hutchins - difficult time for you right now - deaths of people close to us in age can really cause the recurrence fears to take over, Lago gave good advice. Take good care

  • Hi Lago, your speeches are such good reminders.

    I didn't know anything about breast cancer when I got my diagnosis- of the 3 friends who had it, all were Her2 and all were and are still doing great. So then it saddened, shocked and scared me to learn how fatal this disease can be- I really had no idea And the lottery aspect can be so nerve-wracking. I like your buck up attitude. You are right. People pass all the time.

    But what do you say to yourself to help you get through scans? Do you have a scan speech?

  • moonflwr912
    moonflwr912 Posts: 5,945

    lago, om glad you reprinted those speeches! Amazingly on point!

  • Hi Everybody, wishing everyone comfort and ease as we head into this busy holiday season. I don't post a lot but check in periodically and always find some great info from Pbrain or lago, and a host of others. Thank you for your diligent support <3

    xo from Maine

  • Pbrain
    Pbrain Posts: 773

    Fluff, did you meet with my MO at Community North? If so, let me know what you thought. He's a character, but you have to love him. Plus he is hysterical!

    Hutchins, I had a lumpectomy in October 2012. Last time I saw my BS she asked if my breast ached. I told her off and on, sometimes really bad, but most of the time just a dull ache. She told me I'd have that all my life. She said she had taken a lot of tissue out and that breast tissue is not very happy after it is insulted like that. So ask your BS about your pain. I tell myself not to worry because while I had the cancer, I had no pain.

    And for those who have had radiation, oh man was my breast sore from that-not my skin so much as inside my breast. It would just ache and ache for months. That seems to have calmed down quite a bit. Our boobs don't like to be disturbed :-)

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Posts: 2,700

    Thanks for that, Pbrain. It makes me feel not so crazy like I am the only one who's breast still hurts. They would look at me askance when I told them how much it STILL hurts... I mean, my eyeballs ain't bleeding or anything, but...It's really nice to know that you got an official explanation.

  • linda505
    linda505 Posts: 395

    Just stopping in to say Howdy to the most positive women I know Smile

    Also - have to share this for those that I don't have on facebook. This is how my hair is growing in and this photo was taken after a shower and after I tried to tame it with a comb and hair dryer - there isn't any product on this at all. I call this my "Marge Simpson"

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