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Chevy your sunrise is lovely and what you said about Sassy's issues rings true to me. Funny how kids get possessive. I see it even in some neighbors of ours, adult kids' reaction after Dad started dating. When I am gone I want my DH to date and move on. How my kids will react hmm.. who knows. How to dance so you don't step on everyone's toes.. not easy. I think kids have a mental picture of how they want their family to be and don't always realize how they feel about accepting "outsiders."
Tang-good luck on the scans! Prayers for you.
Our cats will watch cat clips if they happen to see them on TV. Our Siamese loves to attack the cursor on the computer..lol. It doesn't take much. Raining.. raining... stay warm dry. Tomorrow is the shortest day of the year... good to sleep in!
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Spookie ah-hah I'll leave the channel on Animal Planet, Thanks
Rose, your right, DBF is nothing like his dad. So, I guess I miss altot of gatherings.
Jwoo---do you collect opalescent versus iridescent er vis versa
http://www.replacements.com/webquote/FOSCASC.htm
http://www.replacements.com/webquote/FOSCOP.htm
http://www.replacements.com/webquote/FOSFIR.htm
this caught my eye. I'm going pattern by pattern through Fostoria. UGH labor intensive
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Chevy - love your sunrise pic. Thanks for sharing.
Tang. - hope your scans go quick with the best results possible
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Scan is done.....but I forgot to bring my scan disk of my last one for comparison. I offered to bring it back up, but they said it would be okay. Am I the only one who tries to read into everything with this stuff? So is it okay because they can clearly see something is wrong?
I'm going to a Christmas party tonight at my dad's. It's just a small gathering and I hopefully by then my 5 year old will stop being in "bratty" mode. She's been a bear today. uggg.
((hugs)) everyone
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SAS, this is for you. I don't remeber if you had alladerm with your recon but here's two photos, left and right. What you see are divots, on both. The really dark one is the purple magic marker that hasn't washed out. The lines between the divots is old scars from the breast lift. I'm concerned about the divots. They weren't there before. And it started with one on the outside edge of each one. Now both have two. What do you think? I don't see the doc until the 30. It doesn't hurt. I'm going into to ask Deborah also.
Left side
Right side
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Smarrrty, Good ask Deborah---you know she's my go to gal. No question in this situation that someone with the question, that had been guided by Deb. She's seen and heard it all.If my orientation to up and down is right...they are in the inframammary fold? ----Fold below the breast? Where were the drains? how many drains did you have? If they are the drain holes they look normal. The more centered of each(towards sternum) looks like old scarred down holes and the one to the sides(out toward arm) look newer and closing. Drain holes general scar down and leave a divot like mark b/c they generally aren't sticthed shut after removal. They are allowed to heal from beneath. Because-----if you stich them closed they are more prone to infection...........because there was a foreign body there---the tube. Foreign bodies set the whole track up for infection. It's better to let them close on their own.
My guess is b/c your foobs were so low slung after the first sx you didn't notice them? Is that a possible?
What I can say is I see no unusual redness. I see skin scarring.
If the two center ones to the sternum are from this sx, then they are ahead of the other two closing.
Come back quick---------just cuz I'm now concerned but they look good........
No bruising, no swelling----------NO redness
Reread your post and cau.ght where you described the scar formation I'm seeing. Good saw it.
Until we talk some more relax The holes may be developing from scar formation. Until more info-------I like that there is No redness. No redness is GREAT!. Is there any pain at the sight? Why did you look at them?(something bothering you or were you doing a self exam). A post sx self exam is good, can pick up problems early.
So far though not believing there's a problem -----------that is supposed to be a stress reliever. L&H&P's sassy
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Tang, I would take it from the perspective that everyone involved knew you were waiting for the results.The ideal is to have scan disks available for comparison. If you had the same previous scan at the same facility, they already have the scan in their system. When a disc is given to a patient, it is only a copy.
IF this was the first time at a new facility and a doc had a concern-----serious enough--- without having previous scans, they would call your doc.
Call your doc in the morning, I know it's Sunday, but they understand. If your doc is not the doc on call, explain it to the doc on call and ask "Please, I need to know, how can we do this". Sometimes they will make calls, sometimes they won't. You won't know until you ask.
But be prepared to have to wait until Monday---not nice, but better than January.
If the doc says wait until Monday, give yourself the most wonderful Sunday EVER. You can't change anything if you get a negative on the doc checking . BUT you can change everything that you do and think until you get the results Monday. Enjoy the family to the max. Kick the fear aside
L&H&P's --LOVE & HUGS & PRAYERS sassy
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yes, at the imf. These are not from drains. The drains were up towards the armpits. And healing fine. Not sore, just was looking. I'm wondering if this is how the new IMF will develop? Haven't heard from Deb yet. Will let you know.
Tang, aren't little kids great. Mine always acted up the closer we got to Xmas. Really didn't like Xmas the way they were acting. Part of the reason I usually put up the tree late and take it down early. Hopeshe gets better. Must be the excitement, they don't know how to channel it.
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Smarrty, Okay not drain holes, possible sx access for a reason. NEW to you. No redness, no drainage. Found on self exam. I would not manipulate the breasts more than twice a day for a look for skin symptoms. They seem to precisely located not to have been associated with something. If it were something brewing like an infection they would not be precisely so many inches apart---wouldn't happen. Must be sx related.They just appeared? Two of four look old--------If there is bluemarker still maybe she accessed for insertion of alloderm. She had to of made a mark for a reason.
But there's no evidence of skin infection ---happy thought.
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2TA loved the gingerbread man lounging in the hot chocolate.
♥ to all from Happy Sugar-Socks
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Ah Badger------you are a woman of good thoughts always-------love you're fly through thoughts lady.0 -
Sas-I called the place where I had the scan and they said NOT to worry about bringing the other disk for comparison. I asked before I left and called when I got home and got the same no each time. I know its ideal for comparison purposes, so I'm not sure why they don't want it. I'm just gonna see what doctor says Monday about this.
We had a nice little party and I plan to have a nice day tomorrow
Hoping to finish up shopping tomorrow evening. I got to see 2 cousins that I haven't seen in a long time so that was nice.
((hugs))
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Dear friend just told me she has cervical cancer extensive enough that requires a total hyst &BSO---has had a CT scan, next is PET. She will have Chemo and radiation .She described that the chemo and radiation would occur befor the hyst. I am clueless on guiding her. I looked at the net. There is nothing that comes close to BCO as a guide.Does anyone have a clue
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Chit there isn't anything close-----------------they suck0 -
Tang---if they saw something unusual they would want to compare it to a previous view. Their reaction says they don't see anything unusual. You must have gone to a new place? That's okay. It's just nice having the same radiologist reading your stuff..I always request two docs---Anderson or Mayer--------S* sucks---he missed my brain tumor twice--------
Perhaps, they have internet sharing of your tests, not unusual, b/c of insurance. You went to a place that was covered by you insurance? They usually have agreements about sharing info.
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2Ta -------------thanks re: friend0 -
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Thought I'd drop in and say hi. I just got home from shopping. I do read here often I just don't say much. The tree went up today and tomorrow I wrap.
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glad you checked in, Dutchie
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Sass, I just know they treat SOME breast cancers with chemo and radiation first, and then do the surgery... They did this to my Doctor, and she had a double Mastectomy, and is fine... Also heard of this with some of the women on here...
Don't know about other types of cancer though..
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Woke up to snow showers.
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((Sassy)) the HysterSisters come to mind http://www.hystersisters.com/
They have a gyn cancer forum so maybe some support there for your friend. ♥
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Good morning Owlettes!
Just saw this:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/09/17/michigan-doct...
Disgusting and terrifying. Hoping it doesn't apply to any of our Michigan sisters or their families
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Chevy- you are right many times they will treat more advanced cancers with chemo fist then surgery. I should have had that but my doctors were idiots and started carving first without even enough film studies.It didn't help I was a nurse and asked repeated for more studies and further explanation I got shot down as a worry wart! I have spoken to folks who went to larger universities and got chemo first before surgeries and radiation. They will usually mark the area so they know where the tumor was and where to keep an eye out. Insurance blockades are miserable.
Sassy- good luck with your friend. Ovarian, uterine and cervical cancer is miserable. Thank goodness we have these vaccinations now for cervical cancer.
Wren- was it you who said you tried trazadone and it worked? I am on day 2 of trying it and am a little frustrated. I think it takes my gut longer to move meds and get them in my blood stream. So I took the trazadone at 9:30 at night and was up wide awake until 12:30. That was the last time I looked at the clock. I was promptly awake at 4:30am, but laid there and dozed a bit. Then up for good at 6:30. So what's that - maybe 5 hours, a little broken up? What was your experience?
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2ntimearound- that Michigan doctor is criminal. There is a fine line between killing the cancer and killing the host (YOU!). Always remember that when you sign up for any chemo. It may sound good but the price may be high. We had a neighbor whose relative had aggressive uterine cancer. The woman was given a few months to live. She decided to try a very serious chemo to get more time and within 12 hours of getting it was in ICU unconscious. She died a day later. I doubt the cancer would have killed her in 48 hours. The time she so desperately wanted she lost.
I wish when a MD has a horrible track record that those doctors who get a patient from that clinic would warn the medical board that something is wrong and to investigate. They don't report fraud or incompetance generally. We had a surgeon here in Oregon named Patel who left an ugly trail of dead patients and slipshod medical care. Then he left Oregon and went to Australia where he continued to kill patients. They finally arrested him! When you look back at the records be was barred from doing certain surgeries because his outcomes were so poor - yet employers gave him good references!!!! So he just kept moving along.. hurting and killing patients who of course had no knowledge of his past.
As any nurse knows after working on the floors and seeing how patients do, the patients nearly never know enough to decide if their doctors are really competent or not. Nurses see who does well after surgeries, medical care and such. They get report and see the complications and watch how things are managed. Then you know who to avoid and who to accept. I find it rather terrifying to just go armed with hope alone. You can have alphabet soup after your name (degrees etc..) and be dangerous.
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Two things. Chemo killed my dad. They shot it in the femoral artery directly on the tumor in his liver. The Cancer would have gotten him in a few months, he was burned to a crisp with this.
I was an UN dx'd stage 4. I had chemo, unwillingly, before surgery. We could feel the tumors shrinking with each cycle
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Oh I just thank God you are still alright Spookie....!
So many stories! Geez... it's like your're damned if you do, and damned if you don't... I know we are all different... BUT....
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