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Mommie what did I miss? what sx?I off to MO's. Body has decided to fall apart. Likely will have oodles of tests scheduled. Stuff has been happening for awhile. I moved up late Feb appointment till first available appt. which is today. Worked out, a couple more things fell apart since I did that. Rather have them fall apart before the appt. than the day after.
Heard from Phyliss, but waiting for another call. She's got a new node inher back that they are trying to decide what to do with it.
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Sassy - great minds think alike. A bird list I'm on calls this "Snap". lol
In another vein the big golden globe - I think they call it the sun - is out and it is 56 degrees.
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I believe that Mommy is having implants placed.
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ok Susan, this is me now. I don't do selfies very well.
Blondie, do think of it as a spa. Just think, you don't have to cook, clean or even wipe your own asxxxxxx! What more could you hope for. Hopefully it won't take long for you to heal up enough so that you can go home. At the least, your kids can have meals waiting for you when you do. Heal quickly. HUGS
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Sassy is absolutely right with the new rules a readmission right after discharge and then no payment for either! It's a penalty that appears to work in stopping patients dumped when their insurance says out of time. Don't know how successful it is when patients game the system and are wacko! I remember one guy who refused his IV be replaced after he pulled it out, hence his IV antibiotics went on hold. I went in and said "of course you have every right to refuse any treatment you feel uncomfortable with." He snapped "that's right!" I said, "we will get your discharge papers ready so you can go." Then he said, "what do you mean?" I said, "if you are not getting any treatment then you need to leave, this is not a hotel with free internet, cable, hot showers, clean sheets and 3 meals." (see note below) Needless to say the IV went back in. So sorry so sad... You can not imagine what some people will do!! Every nurse has a pile of stories to tell!!!
Sassy I hope your MO gets you all patched up. My brother said the old Columbia is restaurant is wonderful. I can't wait to try it.
Note: You know I thought perhaps what I wrote might sound harsh, so clarrification was needed. I think I was about the 3rd or 4th person to have gently approached this person( telling him you need treatment, why, timed, most effective route is IV etc..), who was then rude and nasty to staff. I don't remember if he was homeless, but marginal living situation. Sometimes you can sweet talk a refusal and sometimes some folks just want to see what they can get away with, power struggle. Sometimes you have to tell it like it is, you can refuse but you can not just camp out. I have no idea what got me off on this tangent. sorry!
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There is an interesting article in the NY Times opinion section called, "Why Drugs Cost So Much." It is written by Peter Bach who works at Sloan Kettering. Lots of mention of Europe getting price breaks we never see here, especially with regards to cancer drugs. Wish there was some way the public could see a cost benefit between the universal managed care that the world enjoys (Europe, Canada etc.) and their costs to run the programs and the patchwork quilt we have here with individual insurance/ gov. insurance medicare etc. It would be interesting to see how they compare side by side.
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If I remember right, Congress passed a law forbidding Medicare get bids for meds. Even the drug reps think it's stupid. They give discounts in other countries. Think maybe drug companies contributed heavily to some congressional campaigns?
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Rose thanks, Lots of tests and referrals made. Hopefully the one for Tampa coincides to your visit. We have us nurses here. Can't miss with that.
Love the story about the guy trying to run the show Jwooohooooo. Thinking about your question and my response. Stressed and I said prayer or meditation. Reminded me of a study
Study took stressed patients and did functional MRI. In a functional MRI certain isotopes are used to see what is lights up a portion of the brain as the MRI is being done. Then they ask subjects to do something to see if things change. In this study it was identified that the connecting portion of the brain was "effectively" overloaded. The goal was to unclog the area, which would allow for free unfettered communication between the right and left side of the brain. They had the patients focus on thinking one thing repeatedly. The area that was clogged, opened up. The brain and the person became less stressed i.e. relaxed.. The study conclusion was :To relax the brain when stressed, think repeatedly of one thing. They then playfully added "counting sheep works". Unusual to have anything like that said in a study, but it was there.
I laughed. Humans by observation for several thousand years had learned this. How humans did this was prayer and meditation. Finding that it worked, it was taught to others. Science now has proven how the brain physically responds to prayer and meditation at least for this section of the brain.
My playful analogy was thinking of Lily Tomlin's skit as the telephone operator. Think of the telephone switchboard that is clogged with phone line connections. Concentrate about unplugging one phone line at a time. One ringy dingy....two ringy dingy.............
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Wow Smaarty, you have a Lot of hair!!!
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blondy, I hope all get sorted out soon,
I am sending you strength and hugs Smarty great picture.
Good night ladies I am back at waking up at 3 am then not able to sleep till 6 when I need to go to work
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Sassy you can get tests and referrals with a phone call? I would keel over dead if that happened to me... yep died of shock. Save a ton of money. :-) You are lucky.
Enerva sorry about the insomnia. I feel your pain.
Sometimes it helps to listen to meditation tapes. I have them on my Ipod. Easy.
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Rosevalley - your story about the patient who yanked his IV out then realized he wasn't staying for a free ride made me laugh. You weren't harsh at all! You just told him the facts of life in the hospital!
When I had my BMX, my PS told me I would be staying one or two nights in the hospital, depending on how I did. Well, I never got my pain under control, mainly because I refused to use my PCA full of Morphine. Morphine and I don't get along, but the nurse told me the alternative was Dilaudid, which was even worse.
So the next morning when the doctor came in to examine me, he asked if I was ready to go home. I was so tired from not sleeping, and in so much pain, I said "I think I'd like to stay another night if that's o.k." My reasoning was that I was so weak and in such pain, DH wouldn't have to take as much care of me if I recovered another night in the hospital before I went home.
The doc said "Fine - I'll just go write up the order" and left the room.
Well, not 3 minutes later, the Charge Nurse CHARGED into my room and said "WHAT'S THIS I HEAR ABOUT YOU NOT GOING HOME? YOU HAVE TO GO HOME!" Seriously, she was yelling at me.
She told me that hospitals were not for recuperating - that I needed to go home to my own bed where it was safe. She didn't want me to pick up any infections or get pneumonia, and that was always a risk being an inpatient. She said that no matter what the problem was, she'd find a way to help me, but I HAD TO LEAVE THE HOSPITAL!
Sheesh!!! So I told her to go find the doc and have him complete the discharge papers. At first, I was miffed because she gave me the Bum's Rush, but she was absolutely right, and I'm glad she made me leave.
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Sas, I'm having the tissue expander surgery in 13 days.
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mommy, if you don't mind my asking, why the delay? I had skin sparing BMX and waited 5 months before TEs. But it was because of a breast lift I did 12 years before. Good luck with your upcoming sx. We'll be in your pocket
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What is Chevy hung over? Out to late pole dancing? I've been waiting since 7:30. YOOHOO Chevy come out come out where ever you are?
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Have NO clue what is going on here, I've been off having surgeries
But the fin is coming along nicely and the ankle works again. I hope you all are well and warm!
I just wanted to pop by and say Hello!!
and for Chevy...................................................................................
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4!!!!!! Good to see you again!!!!! Don't be gone so long, missed you!!!!!!!
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That poor rooster looks like he just made it out of the cooking pot half plucked! Pitiful. Glad you are doing better 4sewwhat.
Blessing- I know just what you mean. I had a PCA for both of my mastectomies and finally realized after the second time that morphine makes me nauseous.. so it was relieving one thing and adding another.. Once I went to oral pain meds MUCH improved. I fully understand why the nurse was so eager to get you out, but you don't need to yell. Hospital acquired infections are a real issue. All the bugs present in your own house you are used to and your immune system knows them. Hospital stuff can getcha if you are not careful. I do not think discharging older people with insufficient supports at home is a good idea. Only leave if you have someone to help you, get meds, meals, assist to bathroom if wobbly etc.. especially the first 24 hours after anesthesia because it takes a little bit of time to clear it from your body. Folks nearly always sleep better in their own bed with their own pillows! The right pillow combination is crucial haha!
Have a great day. It's sunny this morning! Wow... poured bloody murder last night.
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Had a horrible experience getting a breast MRI yesterday. Got it authorized at an imaging center close to where I live. I got there, very nice technician had problems finding vein in arm for contrast dye. I have always had this problem, and sometimes they use back of my hand. But he found a vein in elbow crease, but blood everywhere dripping down my arm, from multiple attempts. He had me lay on stomach, jut like I did for all other breast MRI exams. The portable platform that the breast hang in was about 10 inches tall and made of hard plastic which poked my ribs. Because of the additional height of the patform it put me up higher in the mri tube. He put me into the machine head first, my back and back of head scraped along the top of the tube. The pain in my ribs was excruciating, and it was hard to breathe being this confined. The test was scheduled to be a little over an hour. I could not bear the pain in my ribs and confinement. Pulled me out of tube after 15 minutes. Said I should schedule this test at breast center cause they have better platform table, and wider tube. I left feeling like I was ready to have implants removed, I was feeling so done with repeated scans, mri's, scar tissue issues, iron infusions, bone loss, imaging test on unknown tumor that can't have biopsy, tiredness, achiness and on and on.....ugh0
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Pawprint, I am so sorry, what a terrible experience! Why did they think they could do any of that to you? Poking holes all over, and then they try to drag you into a tube, no wonder it was painful. I hope that the breast center has better employees also! The treatments are bad enough, it's the on and on and on and on and on and on....that gets me. No end in sight. Sigh. I hope you have a relaxing weekend.
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Pawprint-
I had a similar experience when trying to get a breast MRI shortly after dx. The tech was nice enough, but when he tried to get me into the tube I couldn't fit. I was also on top of a platform and it caused my back to be squeezed like crazy. I was humiliated and horrified that I couldn't fit. My BS sent me for a PEM scan instead. This all happened at a hospital too and I ended up switching hospital because of it.
((hugs)) I'm sorry this happened.
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Smaarty,,,,boy you have long hair.....or course I have none right now...lol...that will take about 3 years to become all white. When you get about a 3 or 4 inch outgrowth, you should go to a good salon and pay the bucks to get an all over highlight/frost...good old fashion frosting to bring the foiled pieces up to white. That will match your white coming in. With shorter hair it's easier cause you can fudge the color and cut it to meet the natural color sooner. Need a good color tech for a one time shot to get you through..
4sewhat....so nice to see you. Hope you are healing up well
On meditation.....if I can focus when I pray at night...key for me...focus.....I can fall asleep . My individual prayers for people are long and very specific, so if you aren't in my top five, I am sleeping before I gets to you...lol...sorry
Hope everyone who is having tests get things figured out soon and not in a painful way
Be good
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I was supposed to have one of those on the stomach MRIs. Even took my insulin pump off for it. With my funky back, I couldn't do it. So they sent me for an open MRI. You are sitting. I don't think the tech had ever done one on breasts. When my surgeon saw the report, he went ballistic. I mean he was yelling in the exam room, went stomping out yelling get DrB on the phone, stat!
Don't do an open for bc.
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smarty - looking good.
SAS - what's wrong ? You moved your appt up. ? Hope all is well
Blondie - yea ! Glad to see you post. I agree hospital social worker should be able to help. They know a lot of resources we are unaware of. Now about nobody bring able to help you at home : wth ? I thought this might be an eye opener for them. Don't let it get you down. They will come around sooner or later but I am hoping for sooner for ya.
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Hello, 8;00PM and just got in from lunch, thrifting, and grocery. FEET hurt, body too. Only three little repeat pieces. Went to lunch with some work mates from my old hospital. We laughed and gossiped. Every time it got good they would lower their voices. WHAT? WHAT?
Patty, just stuff, if anything comes up serious, I'll let you know. Just knew that they needed to be evaluated now and not in two months. Everything being ordered and referrals made.
Spookie, I see what you mean about the cell phone towers. Nice not an eyesore. That's nice.
$$$$$$$$4444444444 Hello, glad you are mending. I was looking yesterday for an old post on STFU and thought of you when I saw your Avatar. We need and update on the kids. Any drama with your Mom? Is the catering business still going? I hired a cleaning girl. Decided today I'm going to have her come every two weeks. I'm pampered LOL. Lawn guys, pool guy, bug guy. Now cleaning gal. The cleaning gals a treat. The rest are necessary. Hmmmm Cleaning gal is necessary, I don't want to do it. Watch she won't be able to do it. Google Dowton(sic) Abbey, Violet's cake or Dowager cake. With your skill you will like seeing it.
Chevy still you haven't checked in. What up? You were on W&F's. Are we abandoned? See how you perked up with just the mention of Cami's name.
Susan My mate from nursing school is the same way. One time she asked how I was b/c she prayed the same way every night. If I was okay she needed to make room on her list. I take the all at once approach.
Rose I want you to call, but strange week for things happening. Tomorrow out the door by 1:20pm and will likely be back around 6:30. What week exactly will you be heading to Tampa. I'm getting a referral to Moffitt for the thyroid F/U. I'll attempt to make the appointment when you plan on being in Tampa.
Smarrty, on a limb here. Feathered page boy shoulder length?
Okay one of three little stories we laughed about today. We had hospital cell phones. That rang incessantly. Just another layer of interference, but did help in getting stuff--new orders, troubleshooting. One morning by 9am I was spinning. I was accessing a little old alzhiemers patient. Clicked off the phone. Put my stethoscope to my ears, and the bell to her chest and then My brain realized upon hearing me say "Hello this is sas" , that I had answered the phone far to many times that morning.
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HOLE_IN_ONE in my travels today, I saw a previous thrift identified. Duncan --teardrops pattern. Have to look at Replacements.com to see. I thrifted two pieces the same day different stores. Couldn't find the pattern. Yay. Duncan was elegant glass. Hoping that pieces are rare. OH the CHASE..BBL with pic
I have this in clear glass(the one in the link is a green)----this pic doesn't do it justice. But looking for the pattern for many years. This is an inadvertent find of a name and pattern by looking for something else. Paid <10$
Thrifted the below for a pittance. Found a dome in the same pattern on the same day at a different store. Couldn't find the pattern. Went into the antique mall today. AH_HAH name and pattern. Duncan Miller --Teardrop pattern. So far can't find a dome with a price on it. Domes don't last. What's unusual here is RC.com doesn't list/show a dome. Which could make it very rare. They usually get separated or broken. What's unique about the plate is the clear portion of glass. Finally learned that clear class that is involved with a pattern is tuff to produce without defects. That little Fostoria ---Colony cake plate 7 inches x 5 inches approximate 179 $ marked down to 130$. OH CHIT reaction. The key was the clear glass portion.
The dome was on a base. (baseplate, where's the base?) It was only after I got home that day and laid out all the treasures on the table. Hmmmm this looks like it matches this.----Never saw the pattern before. Didn't realize they were related till I unpacked everything. Isn't that fun.
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Oy the big D is driving me crazy today... ugh. Don't know what set this off, but my intestines are in over drive.. TMI. Drove a bunch of kids to a sleep over an hour away. My poor 13 year old is all in a tizzy about my leaving for Florida. She thinks I will die and not come back. Big boo-boo face and tears. Lots of reassurance. Where do kids get these crazy ideas? We are like weeds and it takes a direct hit with round-up to knock us off. I'm still kickin. My other kid wants me to take her to see Grandma, forget Mom! Haha.
I'll call you tomorrow Sas after you get back. Just have to remember the time differences.
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Rosie, LOL we are nurses------------oh the poor kids. Have a booboo---Blow it off (DS 3y/o). He blew on the booboo. I laughed so hard. Other nurses the same. What we take for granted......is hard on others. She's a little girl, you big tuff nurse. Okay we will get together sometime tomorrow.On a glass quest
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Blondie- I heard you are here and so sorry to hear about the fall, surgery, etc. I am sorry your family cannot help more, but have been in similar circumstances and think going somewhere that you WILL get help as you recover is really important now.
You can good care of yourself and keep you in my prayers for a speedy recovery.
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