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ARBs are similar to ACE, but no cough. Thanks for the translation. Doc wanted to put me on one, I refused. My normal bp is 110/70. The ACE dropped me into 55/40. Plus that cough.
It was a study in some diabetes journal that said not necessary. Will show doc, tell him to put the pills where the sun don't shine!!
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SNOW???????? In Ohio???????? NOW???????
Where are you?
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Luv- I think I kept the bandage on a couple days, and washed it on the third day. I had about 9 stitches on the top of my head near the part. I The only really weird thing that happened was on the third day, I woke up and my eyes were totally swollen like I had hives. I screamed when I looked in the mirror and was really worried something was wrong. No one told me that might happen after the Moh's surgery.
I got a hold of one of the nurses by phone the next day and told her about the swelling in my face. She said, yes that can happen and it just because there is swelling on the scalp and then fluid drains down to the face at night when you are laying down. She said it would go away within a few days.
I saw my massage therapist later that day and when I went in to see her and took off my sun glasss, she said "oh my!" She did some massage around my temples, face, etc. to help release the fluids trapped around my eyes. Next morning the swelling was much better. By the next day it was gone.
It has healed nicely and regrowth of hair continues in the area. Compared to the other stuff we have all gone through, peice of cake!
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ahh Spookie Angiotensin II receptor antagonist (ARB). Yes the little old lady cough on ACE inhibitors. Very common and certainly annoying. I had it while on it, lisinopril.
I knew they used to use some BP meds for kidney protection but it's been years since I've done much with diabetes.
Thanks Jazzy. I made my appt. for a Monday so maybe by Sunday I'll look decent for church. This is just inside my temple. This is a dermatologist, don't know if he does Moh's. He's gone really cosmetic high dollar but DH and I've been pts there 25+ years so we're grandfathered in for the regular stuff lol. Might end up at plastics doc instead. Guess I should surf the insurance and see who's on it I might even know.
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Mama take care of yourself
My eyes still water or whatever n i haven't had chem since july. It is crusty stuff (sorry). Don't know what it is, will say something about the mo friday
Patty called u vm filled
Chevy, i dont care if u r stage 4 or not, i really dont sweat the small stuff
I finished a book last night (the orphan train) last night went 2 sleep at 4ish n slept til 430pm. Omg
Sasn bg hugs
Time 4 more brownies n milk.ate a stouffers chicken parm with spaghetti looked good, lol
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Blondie- you are making me hungry!
Luv- they usually do Moh's on the scalp, face ears, neck as it is leaves less of a scar. I actually had stitches, which I am not sure you will need if yours is small. My doctor told me mine was wider than expected, but also not deep.
I asked her during the procedure if basal cell ever metastasized, and although you usually hear no, she said "it depends." She said she had a woman come see her who had one on her back that was removed by someone else, it came back and got large. My derm said it was far larger than she could do in an outpatient setting so she sent her to a general surgeon. The assistant asked "so how is she doing?" and my derm said "she is now Stage IV and not doing well at all." Gulp.
So all I can say is, I was so glad to have mine gone. I had a 3 month follow up in Nov, and have one more in May before we go back to annual check ups again. Sort of like what we do with our bc, but our bc follow ups go much longer. I hope yours is nothing, but if it is something, get that junk removed!
I am going the gym to pump some iron ladies. Have a good night!
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Spookie- If your BP is 110/70 why any intervention? I take losartan and maxide but my BP if you leave it alone will be 155/110 (my personal best 180/118). My moto don't mess with what isn't broken!
You know my daughters shrink wanted to put her on metformin to lower lipds in the blood and control hunger urges brought about by her mood stabilizing drugs. She has gained some weight but nothing scary. Any way he put this kid on 500mg metformin. Her lipid panel was ok, fasting blood sugar ok. She was complaining of dizziness and blurry vision after track meets and sports games, doc said low dose no need to check blood sugar. She is in to sports everything. We took her off the metformin. Too many SE not enough reason. I might try it again in summer when she isn't in every sport 4 days a week. It's supposed to lower wt gain and keep lipid panels in the normal range over the long haul. I think 250mg twice a day would be enough. I need to do more research on this intervention.
Susan- OMG we could share families. Actually your story sounds just like my neighbors and her brother. Parents left the house to the son because he is alone, normal and weird - but alone. The neighbor looked after both parents and got zip, brother got everything. I talk with her sometimes as her husband has cancer and she takes care of him now. I have a brother with issues and my mom revolves her life around what he can handle. Now my Mom has dementia and it' a real mess. I told them keep the house split with my brothers, they need it more then I do. The drama wears he out. I simply can't take it. Thankfully I live 3,000 miles away.
It sucks about the PET scans and tests and insurance. I hope things improve no one needs added grief and stress. You can use the word sorry all you want!
Blondie- yay you are eating! Good! Hope the eye thing gets figured out.
Chevy- I know it seems weird that the stage 4 forum is only for stage 4. At first I didn't understand why, but i do now. There are things about being stage 4 that are just different and it helps so very much not to have to explain that over and over. Everyone just gets it. Well most. I love coming here because you are so funny, inclusive and interesting, friendly. Thanks.
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blondie , I have that book the orphan train. Haven't read it yet. Did you like it? I am reading the dive keepers right now. It's a good one.
Rose, mine are 45 minutes away...you wouldn't want to share that...lol. I am the ultimate optimist. I always think we will turn into the Walton family...my daughter just cracks up laughing...my hubby shakes his head. But as long as we are still here, I believe there is hope. Really prob not , but I still want to believe. And no, I dint believe in Santa clause anymore, but this one I am going to hang on to.
Gerard someone say once ( different topic) if you wake up in the morning, and there is no chalk line around you, get up and live....funny
Sweet dreams
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Thanks, yep eating, got food delivered from the supermarket. Have to gett the paperwork together 4 services. Not sure about meals on wheels they seem to tnink i won't qualify cause there r people livingin the house, whatever, 4 noww i am good, bout time.
Yep susan book was awesome
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Went to bed a bit early and had a decent night's sleep.
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No, littlegoats, NO-one knows what Sassy is up to! Haaaaa! She does most of the time, but sometimes, maybe no. She is like George Washington.... the founder of this thread... (or was that someone else?)
But I will be the Principle! I mean me and Spookie... WE will make sure things stay orderly around here.... or else!
We have a lot of substitutes, or monitors that keep things on the straight and not-so-narrow... And what's this? Another colonoscopy? Wasn't one enough? I stay away from those things....
A spot on your scalp? I put callous remover on little dry spots on my face. I keep that stuff around, just for that purpose.
Except I tried that on a little place in the corner between my nose and eye...... didn't go away.... Finally went to the skin guy, and it was basal-cell, so it was taken out... Sometimes you just can't "fix" things....
Hi Rosie.... That Cammi sent me an email... just a cute video about a cat pushing a dog into the pool.... But nary a WORD about how she is feeling! I hate to keep raising hell with her, and wishing she would post, but I know she will when she can.... she's such a brat!
Oh Jazzy!!!!!!!!! You had one TOO? Yes.... and now at MY age, we get these stupid dry spots just EVERY damn place! I need to up my stock in callous remover... sometimes you can file them down... And BRUISES!!!
Every time I look, I see another one! But they go away... I remember saying "Ow".... but don't pay any attention.... then I look and see a bruise, and can't remember hitting it! Haaaaaaaaa.... now that's funny.
Ah Susan.... I'm so sorry! It's just such a PITA trying to get something DONE! And no-one knows what the other one is doing... Yes... you have to make an appointment with your "Primary Care".... then they say, Oh, sorry, can't fix that, you must see a Specialist, which is even MORE money, and you must get a referral, which we will give you when we are damn good and ready.... THEN you must make yet aNOTHER appointment, for that Specialist.... and then "Good Luck trying to get any insurance on this planet to cover all this BS we put you through".....
You know what I would tell your Mother? Oh, never mind... And your Brother too? She does not run your life..... She maybe did once, but she is not being very nice. And she took you WITH her? Now that's just plain mean!
I would not let your Brother live with you under any circumstances, and you can tell them I said so.... I will be your adversary... I wouldn't even let your MOM live with you.... Of all the nerve!
And I would have a good sit-down with your Mom, and tell her what you think. Tell her you don't CARE that she has dis-inherited you, but that if she thinks she is going to tell YOU who lives with you, she is furking goofy! She can't do that.... How old IS this Brother???? Seven?
Tell her he can live all by himself, when she kicks the bucket, in HER house, that she so miserably left to HIM! Okay... that makes me mad...
What a bunch of losers....! I would call the authorities and report them just on general principles...... At the very least, I would tell her she is blowing smoke, and she is just plain nuts to think she can tell you how you are going to live, and with WHOM!
Jazzy.... I always watch Judge Judy! She NAILS those people, doesn't she?
How did I get so far behind? I mean to answer all you guys, but I spent too much time ranting about Susan's family, Ha!
Also.... I would maybe talk to YOUR attorney Susan, or someone at "free legal aid" and explain what your Mom thinks she can control.... I don't think I would have any more contact with her.... see if she likes THAT !
I don't care WHAT she puts in her will....or how much money she has..... she cannot make you raise your Brother.... And tell her that!
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Rose, it's all about having diabetes. I've been on bp medsfor 30 years, for other cardiac issues. Bp has always been excellent. Then there was a fresh out of med school primary who decided I needed an ACE, because I have D. Never even looked at my meds, like a dummy, I took it. She damn near killed me.
So the current PCP wanted me to take it. I said I was already on 2 bp meds. He says it's different, works on the pressure in your kidneys. D can mess with your kidneys big time. Been there, done that, not taking that chit again.
As for your DD and the met, I was rx'd that when first dx. I couldn't tolerate it, hard to find a bathroom while driving a school bus!! But it's a good drug, and they are finding more uses for it, if you can tolerate it. An x SIL lost about 50# on it.
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Judge Judy had a woman, her husband and a girlfriend type on yesterday. What I saw as the conclusion was outstanding. The story was the wife assaulted a girlfriend (who did not know the guy was married) and the woman was looking for reimbursement for medical bills (I personally would have had the woman arrested). This dude told the girlfriend that he was being stalked by this woman (actually his wife), and then told the wife the same thing (the girlfriend was a stalker).
The wife was going on and on about the girl deserving tp be assaulted, and JJ nailed her and said "this woman is not your problem, your husband is a piece of trash and created this whole mess. You are not directed the anger to the right person, is should be going at your husband, not this woman!" Guy sat there smug. The young woman was very clear about how both the women had been played as fools, just wanted the money back for the trip to where ever she got care. The wife went on and on and would not shut up. Well, JJ gave the young woman the $5K she was asking for. JJ nailed it! The husband and wife team are quite the crazy duo......
I am not someone who likes drama, I avoid it like the plague. When I see stuff like that, I think what sad lives some people have that they have to create that kind of pain for everyone. Life is hard enough without all that. But like I said, you come away feeling fab after watching that show!
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thought for the day-can you relate?
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Love the crazee daily path Jazzy. I spun wheels yesterday waiting for the horrible storms to come which came about 3 am with just heavy rain here which we still need. Must get bum outta this chair and do some things today.
Susan - rose colored glasses are great but I think your mom is just fooling herself. Your brother live with YOU? Heck no sista. Obviously from the way you speak of him he navigates his personal life as he wants and does fine with what he wants/chooses to do. What makes your mother think he would even want to live with you and your DH?
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Jazzy...........She should have just shot her husband..... and blamed it on the girlfriend.... Those two deserve each other!
OR.... Susan's Brother should meet that wife person, and get married.... and THEN Susan's Mother could leave that house to her Son and his wife... cause no matter WHAT, that wife will hold onto that man.... no matter WHAT he does, and Susan would have them all out of her hair.
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Spookie- oh I didn't realize you were already on BP med..geez. I am glad you stood your ground. Diabetes is a most miserable disease so many complications brought about by it. I have known many wonderful people who go through so much to control their disease. My DD has gained about 15 pounds so putting the skids on further gain would be good. She is very self conscious about weight, like all middle school girls. Plus these mood stabilizing drugs can cause a large increase in lipid panels and the resulting damage over the yeas. I think it's basically a good idea to intervene, Ijust think the amount of Metformin should be lower and spread out. Like 250, 3 times a day or twice a day. Then we will get the effect of weight stablization, lower hunger and lower lipid panels - better compliance on the mood drugs- win win. This kid is tiny 4 foot 11.
Jazzy- the judge nailed it, dysfunction totally. Momof2- glad you got some sleep and feel better!
My DH moved a small bird feeder in front of our bedroom window. The chickadees had found it and are swooping down to eat breakfast. Our huge Siamese cat Emmy is beside herself... stiff, stalking the pillows on the bed, cramming her neck and chittering and twitching. Quite a production... good gives her something to do. Highly amusing! What happened to our warm spring weather.. it's cold and cloudy!
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Rosie --Dovey My take on sorry. This is not written to irritate you. I use sorry when I transgress. Used it allot by forced inducement with the nuns growing up. It was an empty phrase then. Used to keep me from being thrown out of school.
I use it now when I perceive someone hurting from any source physical or emotional. My meaning and thought when I use it, is that I am hugging that person and sometimes whispering an ' I love you'.
Sorry(hugging and whispering)
Littlegoats, so nice to see you back. Here's hoping the spot isn't trouble. How's the goats?
Susan, Sorry that it was such a crappy day yesterday. Yes, they're doc specialists for each body system and subspecialties for conditions. Those docs have certified staff for other disciplines. Now wonder when we find someone that can work a problem without sending us on to someone else we hold onto them. With the new insurance, check and see if they have nurse case managers. They know the ropes and can make things easier. I used them for both Greg and I. Took allot of frustration of my shoulders
Spookie, is your post saying you are willing to work on your list? Your BP isn't normal. Normal would imply that you don't have hypertension. Your BP is in normal range. Sometimes the drugs all interacting push you to low. You are taking several meds that control lot's of body mechanisms to keep it low. But I said I would shush. It's hard too shush. Very hard when there are so many drug interactions. 3 of 7 for sure and 4 more potential. Sorry, I slipped and didn't shush.
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good morning all.
Chevy and luvmygoats , when my cancer recurred I made a decision never to disagree or fight with my mom or brother. They both can turn you off like water. During my first cancer experience my mom didn't talk to me for 2 years, she thought I was week the way I handled things. My brother didn't talk to me for over a year once cause I told him he should move out of moms house and get his own life started. I literally call and fight my way back into a relationship with them. And yes in have been to counseling . Lol...I figured i cant live with no contact, so now. I just listen to what they say, nod my head, and swear I was adopted .lol
No rose colored glasses, just a peaceful place I came to.
Yes, very mean to make me aware of her plans...had to vent that. They aren't well in the head, have never come up with a diagnosis, on my own, I think there are to many out there to pick from. Lol
My daughter never calls her and my mom never calls my daughter. Her only grandchild. When she walked away from us during the cancer, claire was in 5th grade, we saw soooooo much of my mom when claire was born and included her in all trips and overnights here and all of life, even though she was mean then too, but my dad had died the year before claire was born. So we took mom under our wing the best we could with the new grandchild. They became pretty tight. My mom and I didnt, she played so many manipulative games trying to get claire of like her more than me....really sick in the head. But my daughter is one smart cookie. Never even came close to working. Really pissed my mom off. Claire was not under her control liked i had been . I think the cancer gave her a good reason to walk away. That is what she does when She can't get her way . Can you imagine a grandmother walking away from a ten year old. It took me many years to get Claire to forgive her in her heart. Told her She never has to reconcile , never has to talk to her again if She doesnt want , but you have to find forgiveness in your heart to move pass the anger. That's healthy for you.
Ok..enough about dysfunctional families..such a downer
We have sun today and no snow...yeahhhhhhhh. I think it ooks warmer out then it is, but I will take that.
The place where we are getting our bathroom cabinet from called again yesterday, it's on a truck somewhere, they aren't sure, can't say when it will be delivered. Suppose to be on the 14th, then this Friday now who knows. We bought it from lowes on line. Is their factory in another country !!!!!!! Lol
Big big big party in the bedroom and master bath when this finally gets done. And no chevy, no poles were installed

Have a good day everyone
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Littlegoats ARB angiotense II and renin blocker. Just guessing that UACR indicates kidney damage. Both(albumin and creatinine) can independently, would seem that a ratio between the two could have an association.
Mommy, hope today is a good day. Do they feel different? My TE felt like it cut into my left shoulder/axilla area. Very nice when it was removed.
Blondie, brownies and milk---went searching for chocolate. Found some in the baking container. Chocolate chips Hmmmmmm.
Susan, Chevy nailed it re: the mother --brother scenario. Not nice.
Off to Gyn appt.
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Its only sore across the incision area but its much better than the BMX or the TE surgery. Taking tylenol for it. Also have a sore throat from the breathing tube but that is minor
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Apologies Susan. Rose colored glasses remark applied to your mom (well maybe not considering your desc. above). I have much the same. Have not talked to my mother's only sibling since my mom passed away 12 years ago and don't ever intend to. She is exactly the manipulative person your mom is and oddly enough has a son who is exactly like your brother. They could be twins - loner, happy in mom's home, college educated. No clue what will happen to him when she passes.
And you are right. You can't change them. I know most everyone on here knows the old adage psychiatric or psychological origin. You cannot change anyone else's behavior. You can only change the way you respond to it. Big hugs.
Sorry about Lowe's and your cabinet. I've really had good luck with them in the past. Prayers that your cabinet arrives soonest.
Sassy - I always have chocolate hidden somewhere. It's like a place of safety.
Off to program my new weather radio.
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Sas, read that again. My bp is fine. Shush
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for you chocolate lovers..have you ever done cookie in a mug...Google it. Chocolate chip cookie in a mug. You microwave it. Done in two minutes. I add way more chocolate chips and make it real gooey.
Luvmygoats....ohhhhhh my gosh, no apologies. Ever needed. Didn't take that in any bad way. Just as you said, we all know the scenarios, we can't change it, no glasses needed, unless there is alcohol in them
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Teka!!!!!! Little honey.... pay no attention to anyone who becomes offended by the word "sorry"..... That word means a lot to me.... And it lets the person you are talking to, know you empathize with him/her, that you care, and that you are WITH them in your feelings.... So it is a "good" word....
So I'm sorry you are sorry...... about something.....whatEVER! Hah!
Also.... Susan, and Littlegoats...... just don't worry about anything your Mother does or says.... she isn't worth the time.... You knew what she was like with YOUR Daughter..... and she is the same way with you.... manipulative....
Some women are just made out of pretzels, and cracketrs, and weeds..... Other women who are caring, and supportive are made out of chocolate covered raisins, and peanut-butter & jelly, and love everyone.... You can trust them....
We don't need toxic people in our lives, even if they ARE "family".... Sometimes family can make you feel little, and guilty, and not worth a tinkers-darn... But as adults we can choose who to spend our time with, and who to call or talk to..... And unless they want to change their ways, you don't have to feel guilty about not wanting anything to do with them. We don't OWE them anything.....
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Or coffee Susan lol. Or hot chocolate or chai tea. I amassed the best collection of hot chocolate winter b4 last. Just now getting thru the remainders of it.
Speaking of alcohol - I found the cutest silicone owl ice cube molds at one of those super gigantic liquor stores. DH thinks I'm crazy.

New weather radio is programmed. I may need to change my undies if an alert goes off. Not sure if I get a pleasant voice (what I programmed for) or a very ugly tone (the test tone). It's right here beside me so hopefully I will get one during daylight hours. My very ancient one has just about quit receiving and doesn't have anything fancy. Turn it on and listen. This one is programmable for the counties around me.
I have a question???? Anyone on here believe in using local honey for allergies? I hope it works but even if it doesn't this is the yummiest stuff ever I found and I'm not a lover of honey usually. Being southern I like sorghum syrup and this stuff tastes close to that, at least on biscuits.
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pretzels, crackers and weeds....never heard that...did you make that up? Is that a chevism? Lo
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