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Yes, came home from the Wedding awhile ago... I knew what Trifle was, but I thought you meant trifling aound! So you mean you smoked asparagus? Is that what you are talking about?
The girls are coming over for spaghetti tonight.... and I made a quiche out of 8 of those eggs, and Ricotta cheese and veggies in a deep-dish refrigerated pie-crust.... along with salad....
I am just so worn-out for some reason! I'm drinking a chocolate coke, in that GLASS Sass... So now I will feel better!
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Blondie, Happy Thoughts. Our new greeting-hugs. Another day in Paradise? What you been doing? Sunburn? George? Andrew? Dee? Food finds? Still wish I had some of those Kitsches(?). Love dough with stuff inside. Nothing like that around here. Oddly, I don't like calazones. With me, it's always about food finds when traveling. If " Yay wish times could have been different " is in reference to us --no, except for outside temp.
Jazzy, Blondie showed us the scarf ---pretty. The hummingbird pic. I googled "free images hummingbirds" It came up in the mix
Loverly, so romantic about the way Brandon proposed. What a beautiful couple. Interesting about the way the bridesmaids will be dressing. Question-did they check out Disney as a venue for the wedding? In Florida the young dating men always include in the gals 'bio' that they were a Disney Princess. I always thought it was so cute. Told me the fellas liked faiytales too:) In Detroit in the 70's, the 'bio' was Playboy Bunnie. Nice change of value......ROTFLOL, pic of Nepal family. Here we have to have a minivan at least. Here those parents would be charged with child endangerment. 7 on a bike
LOL I ask if they checked it out as a venue. Here the young ones don't think anything of doing weddings at a distance. It's gotten crazy. Plus, the destination bachelor and bachelorette weekend thing is usually Las Vegas or a cruise.
Rosie, hope the day is good
Hope the family has a fun day at the fair 
Missed lot's WAVING..............
Making for the first time crock pot chicken and dumplings. The smells are divine. The taste of the broth is divine. Hoping for a good outcome of the dumplings. I watched my Mom do it so many times. Not sure why I never thought to try it. On a search for instructions.
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Sassy- glad you got to see the scarf. I knew she needed it for her trip!
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Thanks all for the encouragement! It's tough to not have a pity party when we're probably getting one our best weeks of summer weather this week (and no cocktails for my party, either!). But as you said, it's only temporary and my dx could be much worse. I'm shooting for Tuesday as a day that I will at least drag myself out with a sand chair and sit on the beach, even if I only make it 10 feet from the parking lot.
Chevy--I checked your link and it said Ventura had a "limited" supply which is where I looked but Oxnard has it which is on my way to and from work so it'll be easy to pop in and pick some up. Quiche sounds good, too bad I can't get the dogs to "lay" anything useful.
And those goats on your mountain obviously didn't read your tag line because they're either leading or following you. Maybe for them you need add a caveat "if you don't want to stand beside me then get the f¥€% out the road!"
Loverly--love the dog photo! I get woken up like that occasionally but they always move before I can snap a pic!
Sas--I take most of the same supplements that you listed or I did BBC (before BC) but I was advised to stop during chemo. I also take gingko biloba, l-tyrosine and co q-10.
The trips can add up and I should probably replace my carpet before I take another one but I'm planning on using my Aflac cancer $ for another, probably just the east coast in October if I'm up to it. But the good thing about a career with almost unlimited overtime is that I can work a little more to pay for a trip (or carpet!).
Spookie--the little goat was hysterical! My mom started as a psych tech at Camarillo State and got her RN while working there. The state hospital closed in 1997 but became the site of a state university in 2002. My mom laughs and says that there's not much difference between a psych patient and a college kid except maybe the locks on the doors
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Sas. - thanks for the thyroid info. Ibwill def have to go back and read it 3 or 4 more times. To take notes and ask questions.
Wanted to say last week they took lab for thyroid because I wss already in and getting lab for Xgeva shot. It hadn't been 8 weeks since last increase. He said we will recheck after ,8 weeks. I have been totally amazed at how terrible that lil ole thyroid can make me feel.
I did want to say that the pain med does NOT make me feel goofy. At least not any more goofy then normal. I was taking a stronger dose which put me right to sleep. Much better now
Hugs to all
Hootie hoo
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Marlanab: sand chairs all around then? It counts as long as we make it onto the sand, right? (I've been dragging myself out onto my front porch to draggle amid all the flowers I set up before I was diagnosed, trying not to feel too sorry for myself. I mean, my chances of being arrested for committing GBH on one of the local oncology/hospital staff is higher than my 10-year likely survival percentage with appropriate treatment. I'm a bad patient.)
And I'd say the carpet will still be there when you get back from your trip. Post pictures.
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Marlanab- if you feel better this week, sitting outside for a bit might help you. Little sunshine and fresh air is good for the soul.
I can tell you are already making "the list" as I call it of things you will do when you get better; taking a trip where you want to go, doing some things around the house. I have noticed so many of the women here do the same thing, I did too. Even my friend who just completed cancer treatment has been focusing on getting things done at her house and is taking a trip to see her son in August. I took a good trip along with my sister to Hawaii about six months after I finished treatment, and then got into my house stuff the following year. It is really important to have something to look forward to on the other side of this crap.
Another t-storm has rolled in for the evening. I am getting ready to watch the next episode of Season 2 of True Detective. Anyone a fan of the series?
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I've noticed that on some other threads too. It does help to plan for something nice after tx is done. Some plan trips, cruises, home improvements. None of that was in my budget, but the American Maltese Assoc. was having their national Show in Orlando a few months after I finished. I went. Got to meet some online friends in person, see some drop dead gorgeous Maltese. That wouldn't be everybody's idea of fun, for doggy me, it worked.
Plan away!!!!!
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marla. - I agree with Jazzy. Getting some sun and fresh air does wonderful things for our bodies, mind and soul. I also understand sometimes getting outside and back in is a major task. Small steps. Little at a time. No need to exhaust yourself.
Hootie hoo
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yooohooo queencat---okay yay you posted three times? welcome ...keep postin
bbl or in morning........................
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Thanks SAS I somehow missed queencat. Sorry queencat. Welcome. Feel free to posy often. Always someone on here who gets it
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(waves hello officially to sas-schatzi and pattypeppermint and everybody on this board) Genuinely grateful for having found this board and all the others here. Unspoken fears are the worst and I'm glad to have found a place where i can ask all the 'silly' questions, express all the 'negligible' worries that occur to me after hours or which my (generally male) oncologists haven't the time for.
I've already had one nightmare incorporating a few general anxiety tropes (checking into a hotel which should be familair to me), body image, discussing treatment of my lady parts with my beloved daddy (77 years old) who is himself undergoing cancer treatment more advanced than mine and some general tropes. Why can't my subconscious discuss matters with me when i'm awake?
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Sas will answer but tomorrow other thsn everything n rve3body is finevn 3xcited, they r going to ft myers beach tomorrow to fish. Been to wwmart ublix, dq, get gas.
Hi everbody (WAVING TO EVERYONE)
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Hi Blondie!!! Aren't the sunsets in Florida gorgeous! So many colors and clouds, just lovely. I hope you are resting and enjoying yourself. Try Publix' foccia (pizza thingy) they make this one with tomatoe and cheese and slivers of onion and garlic that is just delicious and only 5$. Makes a great meal with iced coffee. They are really tasty.
Hugs to ya'll. Welcome newbies!
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Hey rosie, sorry to swy hav3n4 seen any, lol
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Blondie- you haven't seen the sunsets or the fancy foccia bread/pizza thing at Publix? You must see/try both!
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Imagine you are walking toward the ocean.... walking through a beautiful, tropical forest....
You can hear the waves up ahead.... you can smell the ocean spray.... the air is moist and warm.... feel a pleasant, cool breeze blowing through the trees....
You walk along a path....coming closer to the sea....as you come to the edge of the trees, you see the brilliant aqua color of the ocean ahead....
You walk out of the forest and onto a long stretch of white sand.... the sand is very soft powder.... imagine taking off your shoes, and walking through the hot, white sand toward the water....
The beach is wide and long....
Hear the waves crashing to the shore....
Smell the clean salt water and beach....
You gaze again toward the water.... it is a bright blue-green....
See the waves washing up onto the sand..... and receding back toward the ocean.... washing up.... and flowing back down..... enjoy the ever-repeating rhythm of the waves...
Imagine yourself walking toward the water.... over the fine, hot sand.... you are feeling very hot....
As you approach the water, you can feel the mist from the ocean on your skin. You walk closer to the waves, and feel the sand becoming wet and firm....
A wave washes over the sand toward you.... and touches your toes before receding...
As you step forward, more waves wash over your feet... feel the cool water provide relief from the heat....
Walk further into the clear, clean water.... you can see the white sand under the water.... the water is a pleasant, relaxing temperature.... providing relief from the hot sun... cool but not cold....
You walk further into the water if you wish.... swim if you want to.... enjoy the ocean for a few minutes..... allow the visualization relaxation to deepen.... more and more relaxed... enjoy the ocean....
(Taken from Inner Health Studio)
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ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz...............
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Oh for DOGS sakes Loverly! I had my own vision going there, reading what you said, and I got to the part where you said take off your clothes, and 3 hot looking studly men will come carry you the rest of the way into the cool, water, above their heads, with the salt smell, and then when deep enough, throw your ragged butt into the deep.
I was sooooo ready for a romantic get-a-way!
Did you see THAT Queensomething? You will SURELY think we are all DAFF!
And Sass fell off her chair and went to sleep! Haaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!
Marla, yes! Aloe Vera will fix you right up!
Those 2 girls came over last night! Man, they would drive me crazy if they were here together all the time! Have to sit in their same SPOT at the table.... One can't scrape the fork on their teeth, or smack their lips, and the other "swishes" their fork on their plate, playing with their food! And they feel the NEED to TELL each other their faults with their table manners! I just sit there LOOKING at them!
I couldn't get them out of the house FAST enough! They would sap all my energy... Their Dad just looks at them in dis-belief.... probably thinking WHERE did I go wrong????
But they are sooooooo fun! Hard to keep up with them... Man, I slept ALL night! But I need the rest... The big one is coming over this morning... probably to see what she can talk us into!...
Then tomorrow the younger one is off, and we are going up to Echo Lake...
Spookie! She rented a new Chevy Cruz! Hah! Like Mother like Daughter.
Sass you were talking about all this stuff about venues, and whatever! Sheri showed us pictures of the gorgeous wedding and reception and dinner and views, and it MUST have cost a BUNDLE!
We never even KNEW about "bachelor" stuff... or honey-moons away from our house! We had to wait for him to get his Driver's license back, so we could drive up to the mountains, and stay in this little cabin!
No beaches, or trips or cruises for US guys... In fact we stopped and bought stuff to make corned-beef and cabbage for dinner that night! And we walked in and I accidentally broke the handle off the refrigerator door! Sat right there in my hand!
But that didn't slow US down none! We had a blast! 2 20 year olds, up in those hidden mountains, all alone, and happy as 2 Raccoons finding a water bowl!
And what's this about someone said I should say "If you can't be my friend, get the #$@k off the road? HaaaaaaaaaH! The goats! The goats were in my way! Or get out of my way? WhatEVER.... it was funny!
Loverly, under the bed? Haaaaaaaaaah! It was Billy Bodandistal, and Jackie Skeen... my Brother's 2 friends...We must have been like 12 or something...
Ah geez... Sass regressing and talking about making out, or up, or whatever....
So did I tell you about this BOY? We must have been maybe 15... just in High School... I was such a Dud... Well my Brother's "handsome" friend asked me to go out to get a coke... in his CAR!!! He must have been 16... so he was much "older"...
So we were parked, which probably was the INITIAL plan anyway... And it was dark, and he put his bony little arm around me, and said lay your head back, and he whispered.... "close your eyes"..... and then "count to 10"... Well he kissed me at some point... ON MY MOUTH! And stars fell and the earth shook violently, and when I recovered, I was still ALIVE! Only my heart fell out of my body!!!
That's all I remember of that night! And I was surely in LOVE!!!! Until my Brother told me the next night, that "HE went back to his girl-friend"... Well my world ended. I walked up to my girl-friends house, crying all the way! My life was surely over... at that point.
Okay, now spin ahead about 50 years... On class-mates.com I see this "note" from HIM... that he left about 2 years ago... "Do you remember... count to 10"..... That's IT? That little B-tard! Of COURSE I remembered! So I looked at him on FB... NOT the same.... Hah! Of all the NERVE! He thinks he can go willy-nilly through life, and kiss stupid little girls, and then pop-up like some knight in shining armor? He should take a look at himself FIRST! HAH! So then he asked to be my "friend"... And I did, and I am.... But I'm a tad smarter than I was at 15!
And I thank GOD that I am with the one I was meant to be with.
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Good morning friends- wishing everybody a good start to the week.
Blondie- sounds like you are getting out to do a few things! I know your love going to Walmart! I hope everyone there is taking good care of you. I can tell you are happy to be in Florida! Keep it going girlfriend!
Queen- everything is so confusing and frightening when you get diagnosed and are in the beginning of treatment. There is so much we don't understand or know, yet we have people around us who need to understand what is happening,and thus, are filled with questions and their own fears. Talking to an elderly parent about this would be especially hard, but if he is going through any kind of cancer treatment, he can probably understand the process better than most others. But I am sure he is scared too, for you and perhaps himself too.
And when we feel overwhelmed with everything during the day, our subconscious has to do the work at night to help us otherwise. So you are not alone in this experience. Just try to keep things simple and talk to the folks you need to with simple responses.
I hope you are healing well from your recent surgery so you can be ready for radiation treatment next.
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Chevyboy: yes, but it's MY kind of crazy! (now imagining the totally hot guys carrying me out into the surf. Helps that I'm in the middle of editing a decidedly racy (but HEA) romance for a repeat client)
Jazzy: I'm sure he's scared for himself (stage iv melanoma, on immunotherapy) as well as for me. I'm sure I'll be able to discuss both his cancer and mine with Dad in a way that's reassuring to both of us. Just as long as I don't have to do it in a dripping-wet bathing suit, like I did in the dream--I'd been discussing body image problems with my stepmother that day. (My second lumpectomy wasn't nearly as appearance-sparing as the first: there's a visible difference in outline when not wearing a bra.)
Overwhelming? Isn't it just, now? Does the overwhelmingness vary by diagnosis? I imagine it does--glad I have a husband and insurance coverage.
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Puppies and beaches. Two of the best things ever. My hands are still itchy and a bit swollen but I "think" they are getting better. Was very tired this weekend so could not have done much with my hands anyway.
Hubby took me to lunch and in all honesty I would have just rathered went to sleep but it made him feel good . Actually, it was probably a good thing I went out of the house because I do not want to be a lay-a-bout. Yesterday was my worst day for this round and hopefully today starts my upswing in energy and a downswing in itchy.
I hope all you ladies had a great weekend.
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Queen- I am sorry to hear about your dad's dx. Your family has much to deal with right now. Seems to be the case so often when we get diagnosed. My sister was diagnosed with bc two months before me, and just a few months after our mother passed; 2012 was the for sure year from hell for us.
I was overwhelmed in the beginning, and then I got on board with the whole process, I was better. I am a person that needs to know what happens next, a planner by nature. So once I got through the dx, got the plan, I had something to focus on/get on board with, I was a bit better. I also had some other much bigger surgery the month before my lumpectomy too, a whole convoluted story for another time. And I understand body image too. After November of 2012, I had five incisions on my body between the two surgeries. Our body image takes a big hit with this stuff.
And just to clarify, I felt overwhelmed during dx and through most of the treatment, but told myself that was okay too. Each step of treatment was a hurdle to get through physically and emotionally. Can I do this? And yes, I could and did do it, and so can you. Know what you need to do, park everything else that you can for later. Good to be grateful for a good spouse and insurance too!
My reference to the longer term is what those of us who are a few or many years out know, and that you don't have to worry about. The conversations you have with people for the longer term after treatment and as you go through recovery and follow ups. We can share more of that when the time comes, but right now, you need to focus on your next step in the treatment process. Being present with this stuff is the way to get through it.
Let us know how else we can help? I share based on my own experience, other ladies here may have some other insights to share. We all have our own unique experience with this.
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Qeenie..... Just don't worry about "nothin".... But if you DO, write down those thoughts, in a note-book, or those yellow things, and take that with you to the team of Doc's.... If you go with your Dad also, write down HIS questions, and what he is worried about...... Then write down all the answers.... ! It will help with future reference, because your mind will draw blanks during a lot of this.........
When my Husband went with me, I tried to sound up-beat, because when I would look at him, I could see panic on his face.... So I would just take it all lightly, and say "Okay, what's next?" Then when we went for radiation, we would go upstairs in the hospital after, and have breakfast or lunch, or go shopping.... anything fun!
Okay, now what is HEA??? Are you a writer? Like as in 50 Shades? No, don't edit anything.... just let the thoughts flow, like I usually do.... Make something out of a "thought" or a "dream".... like I do..... Doesn't have to be true, just has to sound fun. Except SOMEtimes the "real" thing is better than any made up stuff....
But you have to always keep your own "secrets".... something to smile about ...... Not that I know what that is............0 -
Well, my trip to the BS got postponed from later today until next week as she has an emergency, but that is okay too. I have to go to a memorial service this afternoon for a friend's daughter who passed quite unexpectedly. I think that will be more than enough hard for the afternoon, right? Now I can go to the gathering after if they have one.
Now on a much cuter note, on the morning show today, this baby gets to see her parents for the first time so clearly with a new pair of glasses. I just love the look of joy on her face.
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Afternoon Owlies

Queen-- Jazzy and Chevy covered it from one end of the spectrum to the other. Seredipity that I found this link from one of Chevy's link. Find the Rain(JOY).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCRqNsRflHM
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Jazzygirl: too bad your appointment got postponed, but I guess feel glad you're not the emergency? The memorial services is quite enough!
Chevy: HEA=happily ever after. And yes, the books are similar to Fifty Shades of Grey except a) science fiction and b) with considerably more supportive relations. But in regards cancer care, t3aking note of not only my questions but my father's as well is a good idea! He's in Seattle, I'm in Michigan, or I'd just bring him with me, to demystify what I'm going through.
But thank you both (and everyone else on the boards, even the ones who aren't answering my questions directly) for the support--you're right that a lot of my stress is coming from "What happens next? How will I feel (physically) after surgery, radiation, tamoxifen?" At this point, I'm not even sure what does come next! It depends on whether my surgeon got clean margins on the second surgery: yes--radiation, no--mastectomy. Visit upcoming this afternoon with the psychologist associated with the local cancer center; hopefully she'll be able to help deal with the stress-related issues, like appetite loss, wrecked sleep and "gerbils on the brain".
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