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lovely indeed. Zzzzzzz
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nope, don't like not knowing what's going on. DID want it for swallowing the camera back in April
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Me three!! Good stuff.
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Just think, we are talking about a big time drug like we are discussing coffee cake..............................
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Sas-schatzi: wonderful that you're handing that over to your MO; I'm glad that something potentially helpful to others came out of my worries, my anxieties. Though now I'm wondering if I have the energy for a trip over to UofM! Three hours drive there, three hours drive back, plus whatever time needed for the appointment, and neither of our cars is in particularly good shape. And I'm only recovering from the two lumpectomies! (not that that's anything to sneeze at! but it's not chemo.) Chicago would be more manageable--a comfortable ride on Amtrak, stay over in a hotel before and after--but BCBSM got pissy last year about my crossing state lines to South Bend for my ovarian cancer that wasn't. I have to decide how much I'm willing to pay for peace of mind.
Smaarty: who knows what freaks the individuals out? The first BC lumpectomy, I was cool with. Not happy, but not freaked out. (My husband informs me that I was given Versed before all four surgeries. I don't remember a thing.) Don't even wanna know about the swallowing the camera thing, (sticks fingers in ears) lalalala I can't hear you!
Loveroflife: I'd kinda figured some of that out. But that's why I'm so glad I found the forum!
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Queenie, let me get one link
http://www.nccn.org/patients/guidelines/cancers.aspx#breast
Queenie, wander on the NCCN site. If you do a 2nd opinion. I'd suggest the Illinois one in Chicago. Reason: you may want a consultation in the future. A shorter trip overall makes a difference. I'm doing it now. Plus, if it's convenient by train, takes off the pressure of road travel and inclement weather. There are lot's of positives about going to the closer facility.
You can start treatment and fit the 2nd opinion in between activities. Again another plus being closer.
If you decide to NOT do a 2nd opinion, the stuff from the NCCN will help you understand your care. The link up above says that very thing.
Plus, here on BCO, check the main board for info related to getting a BCO navigator. I haven't paid attention. It's on the main page as an ad type thing.
Off to swim------------
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Queenie
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Loverly, newbies thinking I'm the sex expert. Cool. I got to make up some credentials so I sound official
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Just letting everyone know I was just kidding SAS about the chatty patty thing. Sorry if it offended you SAS. I kinda like that name.
I love ya SAS. Don't be angry or hurt because of my lame attempt to be. funny.
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removable fake nips
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they look more life like on but I am not that transparent. Lol.
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Nice Fipples Patty.
Just stopping in to say hi tpo all of you lovely ladies.
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Haha just curious, when do people use these? The bra will cover them any way. Unless....hmm. Ok, never mind.
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wear them with a firm fitted tshirt. No bra needed
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What the heck??!....then you have full blown headlights, Patty!!
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PattyPeppermint/LoverofLife: I'd probably end up using them as replacement suction cups in the sort of dart set my sister's kids would use. Only I'd have trouble explaining why I was giggling uncontrollably.
Sas-schatzi: I know you're right about where to go for a proper second opinion--my PCP did also mention that we'd be better off going to a teaching hospital or research center, as they're the ones who specialize in specializing in cancer treatment, as opposed to being out in the field.
Emotionally and physically the facility in Chicago is the obvious choice...but... Cost is an issue for us--I'm effectively unemployed, as I've been trying to switch careers (librarian to editor) only these bleep medical problems keep getting in the way, and my husband's cobbling together two part time jobs that don't add up to full time. It does come down to "How much am I willing to pay for my own peace of mind?" I don't know how much of a difference being at the extreme early end of the spectrum makes in terms of appropriate treatment.
Sigh. Must put off further worries until after the appointment with the surgeon tomorrow. (I know, I know...)
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Queenie Well, that put's a different color on the horse. Stage 1 grade 1 Er+ PR+. That algorithm has to be on the site. Plus, you mention an ovarian thing? Cancer. Were you tested for BRCA? your Mom had Ovarian didn't she? Her BRCA status? Your BRCA status? HMMM. How'd you find this buggar? Other family history?
If I didn't have great insurance wouldn't have done half of what I've done.(whatever--who knows). But I understand money. My parents lost everything when the three of us had polio in 1952. Figuring how to get all the answers you want without breaking the bank is important.
There's a thread on BCO re:Color Genomics. Genetic testing for BRCA's and about a dozen other genetic breast issue combo problems. 249$ whole shootin match. But the wait time on return is about 12 weeks now. Getting longer b/c they are so cheap. FarmerLucy is the lead on that..
In the calls to kalamazoo today. Breast surgeon @Bronson is Nancy Kalinowski and Daniel Barnes @ Borgess. Which ones yours. OOPS , you didn't have sx there. What town are you in. I figure you are in the deep southwest corner of Michigan? Coldwater is that way? Niles?
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Patty, I'm not angry. What happened is I think my post was only partially read. Takes it from funny to not funny. I like funny. Chattypatty
BTW have you noticed the girls getting perkier? The backstroke is my go to swim stroke b/c of bum neck. I guess all that windmill motion really works the pecs. Girls are sitting nice. I should be doing some weights---2 1/2 lbs for upper arm. Mistakenly gave them all away. Now I need them.
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Patty- thanks for sharing the info about the fake nips. My sister had a mastectomy and never got a nipple done, but has been thinking about doing a tatoo or other things. I will tell her about these because she might be interested. She is a swimmer so having one on with her bathing suit might really help her.
I got my crown done, and it was quick and painless. Just have to take it easy with the whole food thing for 24 hours.
I am going to see Steely Dan and Elvis Costello in concert tomorrow night. It probably going to rain, but I don't care! I have loved Steely Dan forever. Like Elvis a lot too. SD was here last summer at one of the casinos, but I was out of town so I missed it. I have missed them every time they have come here through the years. This concert will be awesome with two headliners!
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Sas-shatzi: PM message sent so I don't completely hijack the thread.
Jazzy: I'm an avid swimmer myself, and looking at least passable in a lap-swimming suit is one of my concerns. My sympathies to your sister?
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jazz. - enjoy the concert. I never wore the nips in the pool but I wore thema n the shower and they stayed on. I don't use them often but love them when I feel like it.
SAS. - thanks for back stroke firm girls suggestion. I had breast reconstruction surgery years ago.They still are firm and upright. No drooping possible . yea.! Now if I can work on this drooping lower belly. Not sure whst caused it : age, lack of exercise lost elasticity ,etc. I am the skinniest ever in my life and I didn't have this bottom roll even at me heaviest. Gotta fix it though. It certainly makes me self-conscious. Hoping swimming laps will help. Any ideas to get it off quick? My back does not allow sit-ups.
Hugs all aound my dear friends
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We had lunch up at the Lodge at Echo Lake! It was VERY good....! Then stopped in Idaho Springs, and walked around into those cute shope.... Had an ice cream cone, and man I am sooooooo tired! Ha!
Tomorrow we are going to a movie.... Magic Mike whatever....! First to lunch, then the movie.... It is a secret.... I'll tell George we saw Minions....
He would be perturbed, and jealous, and probably P.O'd.... EVEN though I am in the company of our 2 grown Daughter's and one of Sheri's friends.... Oh guess what? So we get home, and out in the alley were these gallon glass jars.... You know, with the rubber on the lid, and the wire closures? The girls smelled one, and there had been marajuana in one! Haaaaaaaaaaahah! I smelled it, and put that one back out back. I can wash those huge jars and put something in them for SURE! So then in Idaho Springs, this one shop sold those glass pipes, and "bongs".... cute little decorated blown glass things.... Janie explained what and how a bong is used.... WITH WATER yet! I mean what the HELL? WHAT will they think of next? What does the water do? They didn't SELL weed, but they had the "fixin's"..
Kind of like this....
Okay.... guess that's enough of a lesson for you gals.... Talk to you tomorrow.... xoxoxo
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Patty, oh no, my bellies my nemesis. The only thing I can do for it without making another body part mad is isometric. Started last week doing a cross country ski type movement in the water. so far not to much is screaming. Upped it today. Will see tomorrow. Had to back off laps b/c neck got unhappy.... always something lol.
Pretty Chevy missed you today. lunch hmmmmm, love lunch. In tour pocket?
Okay quennie
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Even though I don't always know what's going on here, I still love you guys!
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Have fun watching the Chippendales, Ms. Chevy. No dancing
You too Jazzy
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Lover- where are you watching those men? Inquiring minds want to know. I might just wanna dance......
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On the whole body image thing; saw this today and thought "right on", 70s child that I am......
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