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  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Posts: 8,178

    Uh Sas, you been hitting that bong a little much? Wanna check your avatar siggy? Unless you moved, where do you live

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Posts: 15,889

    OOPs

  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Posts: 8,178

    ROFLMAO

  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Posts: 8,178

    That's better!!!! Wouldn't want to corn fuze a tourist!!!!!

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Posts: 4,243

    I was wondering the same thing. Glad you said it.

    My handyman wears white socks with flip flops. Who in the world wears socks with flip flops. At one time, he had a BRIGHT orange ones. The girls and I are so glad those orange flip flops are gone.

    Hey Queenie, itchy staples? All kiddings aside, just curious...have you been eating seafoods or beef?? Hoping for clear margins this time.

    Hi Rose. Have been thinking about you.

    Thinking about you too, Ms. Blondie. Hope you are well rested and enjoying your time with family

  • jazzygirl
    jazzygirl Posts: 12,047

    Queenie- yes, please let us know what you find out at the doctors office and praying for clear margins!

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Posts: 4,243

    oh my goodness!! You live there now Ms Sas? Does it look like this?

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  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Posts: 2,020

    Jazzy/Lover: you think YOU'RE praying for clear margins? Now thinking back to what I've eaten since surgery #2: beef, yes. But no seafood since surgery (husband confirms this) Is there something I should know?

    Medical backstory: I do have a mild allergy to jewelry-grade alloys, but have had surgical-grade metal in my jaw (four years) and back (10 months) with no reaction. Hoping it's just recovery from surgery! But definitely something else to ask the surgeon today.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Posts: 15,889

    Purfectttt

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Posts: 15,889

    Queenie, tissue response to being injured creates a cascade of responses. Not any particular order. Inflamation, white blood cells are released into the wound to eat up invaders. Histamine is released from mast cells---direct cause for the itch. Which is why Benadryl-diphenhydramine works so well. Incicions are injuries. Nicely cut, but still a break in our first line of defense -the skin.

    YAY, vet called. Tumor benign, but unexcised could have changed to cancer.

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Posts: 2,020

    Sas: that's my guess too, in re. the itching. Allergy to the metal in the staples possible though remote....but my body's saying "You did WHAT! You did it AGAIN? Stop that, and stop that NOW."

  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Posts: 8,950

    good morning all

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Posts: 10,258

    I picked up my oldest Daughter and her friend, to bring them back to my house, and when they got in the car, I sad rather loudly..... WHAT SMELLS LIKE CATNIP IN HERE???? I was rather perplexed! They just sat in the back seat trying not to giggle... ... I was very observant.... not that it did any good. And then when she was in college up in Greeley, one time that SMELL just reaked all over the whole apartment area....

    WHY didn't I ever TRY it? It sounds like soo much fun! I know my Brother did.... but I never even saw anybody doing it! I mean I thought if anyone saw me even just SMOKING I would get a bad reputation !

    Thank Dog I am this crazy NOW, and not THEN! I was just too afraid of my folks.... but my little girlfriends were the same as me! And Anna had boobs even in grade-school! I was sooooooo jealous.... I had ONE boob for the longest time.... and finally around junior high, sprouted another one.... and Anna just went on like no big deal! I had to put kleenex in my little bra! And when we went swimming in the school pool, and then took a shower, I stood with my back to everyone, and a towel in FRONT! WTH?

    Growing up was so HARD!

    And so JAZZY has the nerve to post those.........those hot looking GUYS with their CHESTS AND COWBOY HATS! DAMN girls! Is there ever a time when I will not think that is HOT? Hope not anyway...........

    At least WE are going to the movies.... and it ain't the Minions!

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Posts: 15,889

    Queenie Actually, the staples are a high grade stainless. They aren't tissue reactive. It's the skin disruption and the mast cell release of histamine. I know other metals can cause a reaction i.e. nickel, but the metals used inside the body have to be non-reactive.

    Memory. I was in the Operating Room 1975(might have been 1976). Skin staplers and GI staplers were being introduced. I was asked to be the scrub, the first time they were used. Me and the Chief of Surgery. First big change in sutures in a century. It was a big deal. Believe it or not, it was considered a big honor to be asked to scrub or circle when this type of change occurred. The Chief of Surgery was always the surgeon that introduced the big changes. Same thing happened with the switch from cloth drapes to paper. Always regretted not buying stock in 3M.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Posts: 15,889

    One of the surgeons didn't like paper drapes. He'd always throw the hemostats back trying to make a hole in the drapes to PROVE they were unreliable. He hit my hand with one. You should have seen his eyes when I said "If you throw one more instrument, I will throw they all back at you". He stopped. OR nurses had a reputation of being known as "OR Bitches". We worked hard at living up to the name. Had to keep those surgeons in line.

  • Rosevalley
    Rosevalley Posts: 1,664

    Ha ha.... I remember telling a short coat resident that if he threw bloody soaked drssings on the bed and flipped them around contaminating everything bedding and all, that I would report him to the supervisors- nursing and medical. (The patient had AIDS and the dressings were soaked). He cleaned up and never copped an attitude again. Stupid and there were 4 other patients in the room! Sometimes you have to stand up and speak up. Good for you Sassy.

  • jazzygirl
    jazzygirl Posts: 12,047

    Queen- not sure what food has to do with clear margins?

  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Posts: 8,950

    wow I innocently just said I this morning before reading all your posts. You ladies have been busy. Is it hot in here or is it just me.

    SAS - totally agree " better then buns " that little curve right above their pants. Oh my. Oh my yeah tell me about your cross country ski tpe water exercise

    Jazz - sorry they gave you umm...err.. How did you say it , oh yeah " strange dreams ".

    Queen - talking something bout being in bed and electronic devises ??? Electronic um battery operated might be s better description.

    Chevy - i think you def are the one who got these ladies started. enjoy magic mike. Maybe yo should take a lot of $ bills just in case there is s hot looking guy there you might choose to embarrass him.

    Blondie - seriously where are you ? Pop in and say hi when you can

    Hootie hoo

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Posts: 2,020

    CLEAN MARGINS! No further surgery needed to excise cancer. Now to move on to radiation, tamoxifen and arranging for plastic surgery to normalize the results of the second lumpectomy. And get the bleep staples out. And calm the frantic gerbils in my head down.

    Appointment with the medical oncologist tomorrow. Appointment with plastic surgeon TBD, though the actual correction would not take place until after I recover from radiation, which would not take place until after we return from trip to visit family. (call it not before late August)

    Now to figure out the clean clinical way of explaining "Looking normal in a bra is not enough. I want to look normal out of a bra, not with one breast and one victim of a shark attack." Thankfully, I had about two breasts worth of breast in each breast...so I stand a pretty good chance of coming out with something more than an A cup on both sides without worrying about trying to put something into my left breast post-radiation. I understand that's the problematic part.

    Sas: I did kind of figure that I'm not reacting to the metal in the staples but to the staples themselves, and to the surgery. Again. In the same spot. Before I've healed from the first.

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Posts: 2,020

    Jazz: I'm not entirely sure either; I may have conflated questions and answered something what wasn't being asked of me. Not that that's ever happened on the list or anything.

    Patty: battery-operated, to be sure, but now I'm pondering electronic personal-care devices....

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Posts: 15,889

    Patty, (giggling), no one else noticed the two curves. I like that curve. It doesn't even have a name. Never heard women talk about it. I think an analogy could be made how guys react to cleavage. On to exersize, Krips I'm going to have to get in water to do it. Was a natural movement before. Now I've probably got it all screwed up.

    YAY Queenie. Does that mean you will be leaving us? I think you are just enough off to fit in quite well.

    Jazzy, Yay on more contracts$$$$$$$$$$$$always nice to have $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Have fun at music thingy.

    Rosie, short coat residents-----A medical student? Worst. We used to love hazing new residents every July. We'd haze them then run back to the lounge and fall on the couches laughing. Do you think anyone ever warned them that the nurses were out to get them?

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Posts: 2,020

    Sweet deity, no! I'm not going anywhere, not in the short term or in the foreseeable future. For starters, I've only jumped through the first hoop of my treatment sequence (my heart goes out to the people with cancer who must start with chemo), and I still have radiation, tamoxifen and cosmetic correction left to go. I'd also like to do what I can to support all the women coming after me on the boards, as you've done for me.

    And it's fun. (drooling over the handymen) I noticed the curve too! But then I've edited some steamy books--that double curve is one of the common tropes.

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Posts: 4,243

    image

    Happy dance for clear margins.

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Posts: 2,020

    Calvin and Hobbes happy dance yet! Yes, that's exactly what husband and I are doing now.

  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Posts: 8,950

    queen - glad to here you are sticking around even after tx to help others. Very sweet. Several people on this thread are not currently taking tx. It is fun. The more you hang out with us the more you seem like family. And we simply can't have family running off

    SAS \ queen. - I like the curve / clevage analogy. The curve is a great place for the palm of my hand. Almost like a steering wheel. Sweet spot indeed. Dh is extremely ticklish there.

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Posts: 2,020

    Patty; that familyness, and my realization only a month after my own diagnosis just how upset I was. All the information to process!

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Posts: 4,243

    Queenie, protein is supposed to help with wound healing I was told. Mom and others in her generation told me to avoid seafoods (especially shellfish), glutinous rice, certain fish, and beef after surgery until wound completely healed. I don't scar very well and have several keloids from previous surgeries so I thought I should try to be careful with my diet this time. I love seafoods and couldn't resist resist them one day. Oh boy, paid for it that night. Another time, I just had several sips of the broth with shrimp paste in it, same thing...itching along MX and drain scars. Don't think it's a placebo effect. Same thing with beef ( which I seldom eat). Have heard that beef can triggerinflammatory response (can't find any scientific study, but then science doesn't have all answers) . Food for thought

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Posts: 15,889

    Loverly, you are so right my friend, mankind survived throughout the millennia by being observant.

  • jazzygirl
    jazzygirl Posts: 12,047

    Queen- clear margins, whoot whoot. That is good news and hoping you can move on to what you need to do next.

    Maybe you need to talk to your BS about a plastics consult? I have a chunk out of one boob and it has a dent in it. Nothing I cannot live with, but there may be something they can do for you to help? Worth talking with a PS at some point, even if not right away. I know women who have gone back later for such things, or after recon that has not looked right.


  • Freygea
    Freygea Posts: 217

    So happy to see Clear Margins Queenie!


    Cheering the fact the biopsy came back benign Sas.