Micro-invasive DCIS that is her2+++
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Heartdesireslife,
If you will not receive systemic therapy, what kind of screening will you have on a go-forward basis? Are your breasts dense? Mammograms are notoriously poor screening tools for dense breasts. MRIs are more effective.
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I have very dense breasts (well, the remaining breast), but my insurance will not approve MRI. I had a mammogram last May. The results were benign, but I don't feel relieved at all.
I really feel like I should be getting an MRI. I'm not in an income bracket where I could afford to pay for one out of pocket without creating hardship in other areas.
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BCwithBC45 do you mind revealing your insurance carrier? I have had yearly MRIs since 2008 and I'm scared of changing carriers at work since my current carrier has always covered. Perhaps it's because I definitely had an invasive component - although small at 3 mm.
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JoniB,
I sent you a private message.
BB
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Dear Stephincanada,
Going forward nothing other than monthly self palpation check, about 2 weeks following the start of my period and once a year or twice a year physician palpation check of the underarms and chest area. So no mammogram, ultrasound, or MRIs or labwork checking for cancer markers unless new symptoms/changes.
Another writer had written in about seeing their breast surgeon twice a year and seeing their oncologist twice a year, separated by 3 months...so every 3 months there is an exam by breast surgeon or oncologist. That schedule makes sense to me. So I'm going to try that but instead of breast surgeon, my thinking is with an OB/gyn.
BBwithBC45, I would think insurance would approve at least the initial MRI but if even the initial MRI was denied, then a mammo + ultrasound may work for the dense breast for the extra assurance. Ultrasound is much cheaper than MRI with contrast, so I think there will be higher chance of insurance approving it.
Lara0729...getting that 2nd pathology review sounds like the right thing to do and I got 3 different oncology opinions about chemo, so maybe at least a 2nd medical oncology opinion would be good for you despite everything else you need to juggle in your life. Also I learned the hard way, it is profoundly advisable to seek the experts from larger institutions rather than smaller near home facilities despite the convenience. Wishing you the best on this rocky journey!
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Just trying to see how to put in my correct diagnosis without using the preset MyProfile options...
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diagnosed at the age of 46, 7/7/17 left 7.5cm DCIS high grade
8/25/17 bilateral mastectomy with sentinel node biopsy
left 7.1cm DCIS, high grade with 0.7mm microinvasion - hormone receptors negative, HER2+
right 1.4cm DCIS, high grade
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Hi, i know this is an old post but was hoping for a little more info. Diagnosed with dcis grade 3 er+pr-her2 positive .5mm microinvasion. Age 45. Lumpectomy Oncologist is taking to tumor board regarding treatment. Based on what i read here same diagnosis and if i interpret this correctly no treatment?
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Dear Heaterc,
Because you have estrogen positive microinvasion, I wonder if the anti-hormone therapy would be recommended for you. Also for me personally from 3 oncologists - one said yes to chemo/Herceptin and 2 said no. I'm almost one year out post mastectomy and I went with the no treatment advice.
I think it is great that your oncologist is consulting a tumor board. But if possible maybe you can consult a 2nd oncologist from a different cancer facility.
Wishing you great peace!
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just wondering if this discussion is still active
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Hi All, just want to introduce myself and looking to connect with others with DCIS with microinvasion. I had bilateral mastectomy on Dec17 (left breast had extensive DCIS, right breast prophylactic). The surgeon called me last night and said they foind two spots each less than 1mm with invasion which tested ER/PR negative and HER2 positive. I am about to meet with two oncologists but the surgeon told me in her practice she has not seen chemo and herceptin recommended for such small invasion. No lymphatic and no blood vascular invasion, clear margins around the IDC, close to the skin for the DCIS. I am 31 and i am very very worried about the HER2 and the fact they were two spots. Has anyone been given chemo for similar diagnosis? Thanks
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Mine was 3mm, much larger than yours, but my DCIS was 10cm. You can ask about herceptin alone, but it is quite expensive, and your insurance might not approve it.
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Hi MCBaker, i see you did taxol and herceptin. May i ask what was the recommendation based on-the size of the IDC solely or anything else. I read that Herceptin alone ha not been proven to be very beneficial without Chemo. And you are so right about cost of herceptin if its not approved by insurance, its scary
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Based on HER+ status. If it had been hormone positive and HER negative, it would have been pills, Onco said that there is no other choice. Given how nasty HER+ is, a ten percent chance of recurrence is not worth the gamble. It is early, but I wish we would have gotten it earlier, in just DCIS grade three, stage 0. Then just mastectomy would have worked.
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I know this feeling- I felt devastated when i reveived the call that among the DCIS they found 1mm spot of invasion and its HER2+. Did you get second opinion on the chemo recommendation? I am planning to meet with at least two cancer clinics to compare opinions
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I am doctoring with the Mayo organization, so I don't think a second opinion is necessary. They do a lot of teamwork, presenting and discarding and deciding for each individual as an individual.
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Yeah, that makes good sense. I am going to Dana Farber in early January and i know they did a study on early stage her2+ for 12 weeks taxol and herceptin, so i am curious if this will be the recommendation for microinvasion as well. How are you doing with your regime so far? I hope everything is well
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Just begun. Not too much to report yet.
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I just wanted to say i had 4cm of DCIS and 1.5mm of IDC. I was at Beth Israel, but consulted at Dana Farber. It was recommended i do 12 weeks of taxol and a year of herceptin. Her2+ is nothing to mess with IMO. Good luck with your decision making...
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Thanks Tresjoli2, seems like we are homies
) i know her2 is nothing to mess up with but i was so hoping i could avoid chemo! How was taxol for you? Any long term side effects so far0 -
have u done any of taxol? Any Side effects?
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Hi-just wanted to post an update. I was seen at Mass General and Dana Farber this week and both oncologists said they will not treat me with chemo and/or herceptin for such tiny tumor because they believe that the risks outweigh the benefits.
I trust both hodpitals and in my opinion DF is one of the best cancer centers, but I keep reading about others with similar diagnosis who had Taxol and Herceptin and I am freaking out that I am not doing enough. Dana Farber told me my risk of distant reoccurrence is ~1-2% and I should worry to put a seat belt and sunscreen and try to live my best life without letting this tiny HER2 consume me.
I aksed why some patients are given chemo and some not and was told that chemo is person specific and they cannot discuss others treatment but maybe it was people with more focis for example. Needless to say, i am unease because i found numerous women with 1-2focis less than 1mm who had Treatment.
I am considering going for a third opinion. Do you think a smaller local hospital will be more likely to give me at least herceptin? I cant help but worry what if it comes back and i didnt do anything (besides mastectomy). That thought doesnt give me peace...
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Magicunicorn my first cancer diagnosis
was DCIS With 11 microinvasions all small and Her2+ I was also told no chemo. Only tamoxifen I was Er+ 5% and pr- my second breast cancer was they feel a different cancer diagnosed 1 -1/2 years later caught really early Er & pr negative so no treatment at all just dmx. Keep us posted how things go with you
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my tumor was 6 mm invasive and 1,5 cm dcis. Is 6 mm microinvasive ?
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hi
I just done M and my Tumor report show that I m pr-,er- ,her2+. Lymp node clear. CT scan clear.
Oncologist suggest to do chemo TC with herceptin. 4 chemo follow by 15 radiotherapy. The micro invasive area cover to 5cm area. Lump size is less thn 5mm.
I wonder is it the right way to go.. I emaiL other oncologist for second option but still waiting for the reply
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Hi everyone,
I am not sure if I should post on this board but I just been diagnosed 2nd time of DCIS and this time is on the right breast and the biopsy pathology report said "suspicious for lymphovascular invasion".
3 years ago I was on this board overwhelmed by the disgnois of extensive DCIS on my left breast and had a mastectomy followed by 3 years of tamoxifen. At that time I also underwent right side lumpectomy for ADH. I also have LCIS on both my left and right. I wanted to do a BMX but was talked not to by my surgeon. I wish I did…
This time I am scared as the surgeon suspect an invasive cancer somewhere but did not get caught by biospy and I am so scared of this suspicious lymphovascular invasion.
both times my tumor was intermediate grade solid pattern. last time was strong ER and PR. this time ER 60% and PR negative.
Anyone had DCIS and Lymphovascular invasion???? What is your treatment?
I have an appointment with MD Anderson on 10/24
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I was just diagnosed with micro-invasive lobular carcinoma, classic type, intermediate nuclei, identified in 1 core, spanning 0.5 mm in greatest dimension on slide of female mammary gland. No lymphovascuar invasion seen. This is on left breast. I had breast cancer 10 years ago right breast stage 2A. Had lumpectomy and chemo and radiation. Going to surgeon tomorrow. I am freaking out. Any thoughts ladies?
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I am new to this forum and it looks like it has been ten years since anyone has commented or posted. Hopefully someone will see this and respond. I’ve had a recent diagnosis. The initial needle biopsy showed invasive ductile carcinoma her 2 positive +++. After the lumpectomy and my lymph nodes were clear, and the pathology changed my status to “micro invasive.”
they are offering radiation only and it terrifies me, considering the initial biopsy, and the type of cancer I have. I am wondering if anyone here has had a similar experience, and if so, what they did about it? Also curious about reoccurrence rates for anyone that did not receive chemo or herceptin?
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Hi @snacksize, If you go back a page to page 16 there are more recent posts to look at. Since everybody’s situation is unique you may want to get a second opinion from another hospital. Hopefully you will end out having treatment you are confident in. All the best.
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@snacksize hi there, sorry to hear about your case. I was treated with BMX for high grade DCIS with 1.3 mm invasive focus. Her 2+. My MO said I had a very good prognosis, 5% chance of it coming back. I'm 2 years out from surgery. I didn't have any radiation or chemo. So far so good!
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