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Topic: Near Infrared Saunas: A Discussion

Forum: Complementary and Holistic Medicine and Treatment — Complementary medicine refers to treatments that are used WITH standard treatment. Holistic medicine is a term used to describe therapies that attempt to treat the patient as a whole person.

Posted on: Mar 5, 2011 10:52AM - edited Mar 5, 2011 10:56AM by DivineMrsM

DivineMrsM wrote:

I searched to see if there was a topic specifically devoted to this subject ~near infrared saunas~ but didn't see one, so I decided to start one.  There also seems to be a slight debate if this type is better for cancer than a far infrared sauna.

You can see what I've gone thru lately by reading my Dx in the signature line.  In dealing with BC, I'm searching ways to compliment the medical treatement I'm receiving.  One thing that has started to pop up in my research is the use of near infrared saunas to help the healing process.  I would even consider purchasing one if I believe they are effective.

So I'm asking those of you on the forum if you've tried this treatment, and/or purchased a sauna for your home use, what your opinion is about it.

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Mar 6, 2011 06:34PM impositive wrote:

I have a far infrared sauna.  I don't know about the differences in near or far but I've owned it for nearly a month now and I try to use it everyday. I love it.  I went through a sort of detox, my skin broke out in an ugly, itchy rash.  I hope the detox is a sign of healing.  I am just now getting over it and my skin tone is starting to look better.  I am most always cold so I am hoping this helps to increase my core body temperature, as well.  It was a little costly but I would definitely recommend it.

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Mar 7, 2011 07:57PM SaunaLover wrote:

Dr. Larry Wilson and a well know cancer nutrition expert named Pamela McDougal both recommend near infrared as more effective for cancer. They have experience and have seen good results. Near infrared is relatively inexpensive and very easy to use and maintain. There is no reason not to add it to your healing program. Also, near infrared has positive cellular effects that far infrared does not. So I think it has more to offer. You can read about it on Dr. Wilson's site, and see some good saunas at http:/ 

And, yes, I have a near infrared sauna and I use it 5x a week. Be prepared for detox and healing reactions when you use it and start slow. Best wishes! 

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Mar 8, 2011 07:21AM leggo wrote:

I love my infrared sauna; I doubt, though, that it does anything to "heal" cancer and it's symptoms.

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Mar 8, 2011 04:59PM impositive wrote:

I wish I had known about the differences between 'near' and 'far'.  SaunaLover is right.  I've used it everyday and I it took about 3 weeks to get past the herxheimer reaction I had.

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Jul 5, 2012 11:23PM lmgr wrote:

We have a sauna that has near, mid and far infrared settings. We are blessed because we have a spa/movement therapy center and when I was first diagnosed with b/c my husband and I decided to invest in this multiple device. We had a far infrared sauna already, but I can say that that I did notice a difference using the near.

I used it in-between 4 lumpectomies and now, 3 1/2 weeks post op mastectomy, just started using it.

 I have an expander implant. The company could not tell me anything about the expander handling heat. So I am keeping it low and short to start since the port is metal. So far I am fine and felt amazing after my first start at Gyrotonic therapeutic exercises followed by near infrared! I surprised myself.

 My hope is to heal and educate at the same time. -With light and grace. lm 

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Nov 4, 2013 08:09AM Lmimp64 wrote:


I am reading contradictions on the Internet regarding the safety of infrared saunas and silicone implants. The implant manufacturer said they have no studies and to ask for studies from the sauna manufacturers. The manufacturers say that metal and plastic reflect infrared but had no studies to send me. My doctor does not know. Before I make a substantial financial commitment, I would love more data. I'm looking at a full spectrum to get the far for detox and the near for cells. Does anyone have any data or advice they have found?

Dx 11/1/2012, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIA, Grade 1, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Chemotherapy 2/12/2013 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) Hormonal Therapy 6/3/2013
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Jan 21, 2017 02:36PM Djordan_123 wrote:


I was just wondering after a mastectomy about using the far or one of the in fared saunas.

My oncologist wants to know how hot it gets? Since the skin is so thin over the implant I need

to know if it could actually burn the skin. anyone know?

Diana Jordan
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Jan 21, 2017 02:38PM Djordan_123 wrote:

Yes, and is it safe with silicone?

Diana Jordan
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Jan 21, 2017 05:11PM - edited Jan 21, 2017 05:11PM by Katjadvm

Hello. I have a near infrared sauna that I purchased a few months ago. Used it after chemo and after my bilateral mastectomy. I did not have expanders. I have enjoyed it tremendously because it is very relaxing and it has lessened any joint discomfort I have. I was using it three times weekly for 40 minutes (had previously built up to the time at a sauna at my gym). I am at the tail end of radiation and stopped during rads, but I dearly miss it. I did not purchase an expensive one. I got one that folds up for storage that I sit in. Love, love, love it. Makes me feel a little spoiled. I have never heard of avoiding sauna just because you have silicone implants.

Dx 3/17/2016, IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IIB, Grade 3, ER+/PR-, HER2- Chemotherapy 4/8/2016 AC + T (Taxol) Surgery 9/30/2016 Mastectomy: Left, Right
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Jan 21, 2017 06:50PM Djordan_123 wrote:

yes, that's the kind i want to buy- looks like pop corn (jiffy)

but you started slow and it does not heat up the skin. have you felt your breastss temperature while in there

Diana Jordan
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Jan 29, 2017 07:22PM - edited Jan 29, 2017 07:23PM by Katjadvm

I don't have breasts anymore, just skin. I also misspoke in my earlier post. It is a far infrared sauna. It does not feel hot to me, just like a deep warmth. I live in Maine and definitely appreciate warmth this time of year. I also work up a great sweat, so feel like I am detoxing some of the toxins in my treatments. Definitely relaxing and worth the money.

Dx 3/17/2016, IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IIB, Grade 3, ER+/PR-, HER2- Chemotherapy 4/8/2016 AC + T (Taxol) Surgery 9/30/2016 Mastectomy: Left, Right
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Oct 2, 2017 12:15PM LTberry wrote:

Hi Katjadvm,

I just started radiation and am considering using a far infared sauna during. Why did you stop during RADS?

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May 18, 2018 04:35AM jayysonn wrote:

For cancer specifically, infrared sauna treatments are exceptionally promising because of the selective toxicity they have on cells. In a nutshell, the hyperthermic effects of infrared radiation are only harmful to malignant cells, as was explained to me by Dr. Irvin Sahni in a Truth About Cancer docu-series interview. Dr. Sahni told me that normal healthy cells are essentially immune to infrared radiation, while cancer cells are hyper-thermically challenged:

"…by exposing your body to that heat, you're selectively killing or eradicating those less viable cells, those cancer cells, without hurting your normal cells. And so a far infrared sauna is useful because it can help you sweat, excrete toxins, and in theory eliminate cancer cells which can't survive the heat as well as the normal cells."

Another study published in the Journal of Cancer Science and Therapy found that after just 30 days of infrared treatment, tumor-infected mice saw reductions in their cancerous masses of up to 86% − even with low-temperature infrared exposures of as little as 77 degrees Fahrenheit (25 Celcius).

And if that isn't enough, another study out of Japan found that infrared-induced, whole-body hyperthermia helped strongly inhibit the growth and spread of breast cancer cells in mice, without causing any harmful side effects.

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Jan 20, 2021 01:05PM sunbum25 wrote:

I have been wanting to buy a sauna but have silicone implants and am worried it will damage the implant over time. Has anyone found any real information that says those with implants should avoid saunas? My doctor said she has not seen any studies saying one way or the other so I should avoid it if I can just to be safe. I hoping to eventually find a study saying it’s ok. Anyone get different advice from their doctor regarding either traditional saunas or infrared saunas

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Jan 20, 2021 08:57PM MinusTwo wrote:

sunburn - this thread has not been active since 2018 so you may not get much of a response. I do know Devine is still posting.

Just reading through this, I find it interesting that I was specifically told to stay away from saunas & hot tubs as heat would trigger or aggravate lymphadema. Hmmmm....

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