Iodine, thyroid, and breast cancer??
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MBJ -- Good stuff, very interesting. I used to only take iron once a month arond the time of my period. But I too have read with the use of iodine, you need to supplement with iron more often. Is it ok to take the iron and iodine at the same time or should they be taken apart? Pam
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The thyroid, breasts and ovaries are all related. You mess up one and then another gets messed up. In men, it is the prostate. All require iodine.
Another good website is www.stopythethyroidmaddness.com A lot of good info on here about thyroid and adrenals. Not too much about iodine tough.
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heartnsoul: I finally received a proper diagnosis 5 months prior to finding out about the BC: Adrenal Exhaustion! My dr was getting ready to send me to an endocronologist, but I found a lump and ended up doing chemo & surgery instead. Now I am back to the imbalance I had prior to BC. Going to the dr tomorrow to see results of the tests.
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MBJ - Do you take anything for your adrenals? I was taking a sublingual for a while.... then stopped because of all the surgeries and didn't seem to need it. But lately I've felt as though I need adrenal support again. My natural doctor said to try Health Factors Adrenal Support..... just bought last week. Too early to see a difference. Pam
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Vanderlady: I do take adrenal support--I take something called Drenamin and I also take drops from my dr. My adrenals are always blown out! I got my blood test results today and my Dr said everything looks fine, but my TSH is low -.11. Going to do some research to see what this means.
I have been putting Iodine on my scars, only Lugols 2% and it seems to be flattening out my scars!
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Vanderlady: I forgot to mention, my iron levels were fine but my dr did say to supplement with Vit A more often as this is incredibly good for the immune system and helping everything functions better along with the Iodine, Vit D, selenium and Vit E. My estrogen was non existant so we are starting out on a low dose estrogen (my BC is hormone negative).
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MBJ - Estrogen??? That's scary
As for your TSH, the Iodoral may have an affect on that. Oh, do you take Iodoral or Lugols?
My TSH has been low like that before.... actually, they want it to be that low to suprress Thyroid CA. Unless your reflexes are hyper and your eyes are not bulging out of your head, honestly, I wouldn't worry about it unless you aren't feeling well.
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MBJ- My TSH is 28! Just kept creeping up after I upped my dose of Iodoral to 50mg. I'm hoping that it comes down soon....I'm tired of assuring my Naturopath that it's a temporary thing. My FT3 and FT4 are in the normal range so I'm not worrying just yet.........
Terri
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Vanderlady: Sorry, i should have clarified: I am taking bioidentical estrogen: BiEst. I am triple negative so my BC isn't hormone receptive. I take the Iodoral. I was taking 50 mg and now have cut back a bit. Thank you for the info.
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Terri -- About 2 months after starting taking Iodoral, my TSH was about 50 even though I felt great. It takes a while for things to settle down. Honestly, I "hate" having to get my TSH because the docs don't treat you based on symptoms but yet what the test reads. I've noticed too that if I have just taken my Armour and they draw the blood, the numbers are low. I try now to get the blood drawn about 2-3 hours after taking just one dose. When I do this, the #'s seem to be more in line.
MBJ - Yes, I seem to fluctuate on the amount of Iodoral I take too.
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Vanderlady, Thanks.... I'm dreading having my blood taken again for fear that it hasn't gone down yet and instead has gone up some more. I do feel fine, so I'm going with that. Your story is reassuring that I'm not going this alone!
Terri
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HI Ladies, I would like to ask how many of you are hyperthyroid. I have been hyperthyroid for the past 2 yrs and just now they are doing something about it. I have all the signs and symptoms but the fatigue / chest / leg pain are the worse now. My TSH is now .16 and now they are doing scans. I find that when you have so many mds they are not looking at you as a whole but as a piece of you. Very frustrating at time. Any suggestions would be helpful.
Thanks BJ
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My naturalpath asked me to fast the morning of my thyroid blood test. My primary doctor didn't see the need to fast. I follow the advice of my naturalpathtic doctor. I will be two years since beginning thyroid med's. My tsh was a little too high, but the t3 low...my naturalpath was scratching her head over that one.
Since my thyroid antibodies have been high my naturalpath took me off idoral...interesting the antibiotie count dropped from 1100 to 85 ... not sure why?
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I am just now looking into iodine. I jointed the iodine yahoo group and have looked around there. So much information!
I have been on some sort of hypothyroid medicine for thirty years or more! I have tried a couple of times to get off of it by using natural stuff, but I ended up back on it. Last time my cholesterol went very high. Then, a year or so later, I had a (minor) heart attack. Everyone was surprised because I am not the typical patient and was in good health. I had even been exercising regularly (which is off and on due to our busy life with kids).
It may have been due to the way the artery kind of dipped into the heart at one point, rather than staying on top of the heart. With each beat, the artery was constricted. I know that there are conflicting views about high cholesterol, but it was weird having that heart attack.
Anyway, I have some Iosol and decided to start it again. I will slowly increase the amount. One drop is 1.83 mg. How slowly should I increase it? Add a drop a day? Add a drop every couple of days?
It seems like most use the other two products: iderol (sp?) or Lugols (sp?). I guess that is something to look into so I will know what to order when I run out.
I have been addiing sea salt to my water since I 1) read Dr. B's book about water and 2) read on the T-Tapp boards about how someone was able to get out of bed in the morning after adding salt to her water. I had kind of gotten out of the habit, but I am back to it now. (It is weird because as a heart patient, I am supposed to limit salt.) My salt is Redmonds, so it is one of the good ones.
Any information or comments?
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LeahinTexas: So sorry to hear about your heart attack! I have never heard of the supplement you are taking. Iodoral is a balanced Iodine and Potassium Supplement in pill form which is what I take so that I can easily regulate how much I take. Lugols is the liquid form of Iodine and comes in a 2% and 5% and I only use these topically on my scars. The salt you should be using is the Celtic Sea Salt as it is full of minerals! Best of luck to you.
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Leahin-
I am not familiar with that Iodine supplement. Iodoral is actually the tablet form of Lugol's. They both have iodine and potassium iodide and You need a supplement that has both, so I would do further investigation on your supplement to make sure it includes both the iodine and potassium iodide. Lugol's comes in different % strength - so the amount in each drop would depend on the strength. I believe that information is in the member files at the yahoo Iodine Group. Lugol's can be hard on the stomach, particularly at higher doses, so many people choose Iodoral which does not cause stomach issues, because of the coating on the tablet.
I take 100mg of Iodoral a day and use the Lugol's(with a little coconut oil) to paint my breast.
Redmond sea salt is actually on the accepted list of unrefined sea salts for the protocol. I do use Celtic sea salt, but I know that some use Redmond. I don't know if Redmond has different kinds - so make sure you are using the unrefined sea salt.
Beth
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Beth: Thank you for the clarification! I wasn't familiar with the Redmonds and just prefer the pill form to the Lugols for ingesting!
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barry,
I'm still trying to understand all this. The antibodies mean you had some sort of autoimmune disease? That is why they were high?
Interesting questions. It would be nice to get the thyroid working normally.
Are you taking any iodine? If not, why not?
Leah
P.S. Thanks for asking the original question.
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Beth,
Thank you. I will look into it. I know that Iosol is mentioned in the files or database for the yahoo iodine group, but I do need to check into it further. I certainly noticed that no one seems to use it.
I am thinking of buying the book by Dr. B.
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Question... Has anyone experienced pain in their thyroid after changing their dose of Iodoral? I had increased my modest dose last week, and for the first time added the companion nutrients for detox symptoms. I just did this for about 4 or 5 days, then decided I wanted to go back to my minimal dose. Now, for the past two days, I've been experiencing occasional, distinct, shooting pains in my thyroid, and I'm just wondering if anyone else has had this happen and what it might indicate. Deanna
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Wow, it sounds like maybe it wants iodine? that is interesting. I have not felt exactly that, and I take 50mg and go off for a couple of weeks for each surgery (I go cold turkey on and off).
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Hm, Deanna, I have no idea... I know that when I went up to 50mg/day, I felt weird sensations throughout both breasts. I knew it wasn't "nerve zaps" from surgery because it was throughout both of them, not just the BC one. At the time, I remember thinking it was like they were drinking in the iodine. So maybe it's just what Spring said... your thyroid wants that iodine!
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Deanna, some of the companion nutrients help absorb iodine. Others especially the salt water and Vitamin C help get rid of the toxic bromide that iodine displaces. So when yousay the companion nutrients I don't know which ones you added.
I've seen this reported occasionally on the Yahoo Iodine Group, temporary pains. I think it's the moving around of the bromide. Sometimes bromide gets stuck on the way out if you don't take enough salt water. I think Terri had that?
The selenomethionine type selenium is good too.
Keep us posted and thanks for all you do here
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What Crunchy and Spring said.
It's like parts of your body wake up and smell the coffee. A dermoid cyst I had on my trunk disappeared when I raised the dosage.
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Are there any foods that will naturally provide iodine? I know salt used to have iodine added, but I understand it doesn't provide much now.
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Thanks, all, for the input. One reason I've gone extra slowly with the iodine is that I had thyroid surgery back in 1980 for a benign nodule, so actually have only 2/3rds of my thyroid left. Around that time, both pre- & post-surgery, I was on a pretty high dose of Synthroid, but then when I started using high quality natural supplements around 1982, I started testing too high to need Synthroid, so abandoned it and was rarely tested again until recently, when I'm still testing in the normal range for T3 & T4. Anyway, due to that previous hx, I want to be careful that I don't overdo the Iodoral and possibly even provoke the growth of another nodule.
I decided after reading your comments that I am going to go back to the slightly higher dose, but now I'm also wondering if the B complex co-factors I've been using are somehow super activating the Iodoral. Back in 1982 when I stopped Synthroid, I attributed what was happening to the B-Complex I was taking, and it's interesting to me that B2 & Niacin are 2 of the high dose nutrients I'd been taking for a few days. Coincidentally, I'd also run out of a high dose B supplement (B6, B12 & Folic Acid) I'd been using to modulate homocysteine levels. So I can't help but wonder if what's going on is more complex than my body just wanting more iodine.
Don't you all just wish they could hook us up to a machine that would clearly visualize everything that's happening in our organs and blood and tell us exactly what we need?! It would be so much easier! Deanna
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Kira, most sea foods are rich in iodine... for instance, kelp is a fantastic source, BUT, unfortunately, like fish, many sea vegetables are contaminated with mercury and other heavy metals. I still eat kelp from time to time because I really like it, but iodine is one nutrient I supplement since it's hard to get high enough quantities from non-contaminated foods.
Don't you all just wish they could hook us up to a machine that would clearly visualize everything that's happening in our organs and blood and tell us exactly what we need?! It would be so much easier!
Deanna, no kidding -- that would be amazing! Maybe someday!
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Julia, Thanks for the info I want to try to go more natural with my iodine since I am already on thyroid meds. I will try to add more fish, but can only do so much. I so wish more food had natural iodine in it. I am worried about adding iodione suppliments because of the drugs I use now.
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