Iodine, thyroid, and breast cancer??
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And he says make sure you take selenium with it, then there aren't problems, that's right. I read everywhere selenium should be in our diet too.
Mayo Clinic - how much do you suppose they gross on cancer?
Yeah I had the same fear that it would make things worse, so if it makes me feel worse I'll stop. I get enough testing, I'll know in six weeks.
Table salt - by the time you put it on your food it only has 10% of the iodine it started out with..so there goes that argument.
CP try reading the sample on the book above at Amazon. It was enough to make me dish out ten dollars. And read the reviews too.
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I agree cp418. I'm just not willing to take a chance. I'd rather try getting it through eating wild caught fish several times a week and eggs. If you eat eggland best eggs they seem to have a good supply and I adore my soft boiled eggs.
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So I'll come back here after a few weeks and let you know. Thanks for the discussion ladies
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What are the risks?
Tell your doctor about any supplements you're taking, even if they're natural. That way, your doctor can check on any potential side effects or interactions with medications.
Side effects. More than 1,100 micrograms of iodine a day for adults can be dangerous. It could cause thyroid problems and other issues.
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Marijen I'm concerned because I'm on synthroid. I've been on it for 20 years. If you're not on some kind of a thyroid medication you're in a different position.
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Yes that's all in the book and in other articles - if you are on thyroid hormone therapy, the iodine should lessen the amount you need. I'm talking hypo, I know nothing about hyper. I've been on levo about 17 years. I was bad about taking it five years back and boy was I sorry.
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so thanks CP and Kira I did some extra research and iodine not good for someone with autoimmune thyroid (hashimotos). Amazon gave me a credit even though it can't be returned. I didn't know there was more than one type of hypothyroid, now I do. So much for that. I was so hopeful. The book I read did a diservice by not distinguishing between conditions. That's dangerous and should be illegal right
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marijen - we must be very careful what we read and get all the details as some information may NOT apply to our particular situation. Although I have not had my iodine levels tested - I have "acquired hypothyroid" from my radiation treatments. That does not automatically mean I am deficient in iodine. For example, I've learned that eating too much raw Kale as in salads and smoothie drinks will suppress the thyroid as well. I will research and discuss further with my nutritionist and wait to see my future labs report in a few months. For now, I hope my current dose of thyroid medication is working/correct and must accept that I will need medication for the rest of my life. I felt the difference when I decreased my dose - so it confirms that medication is critical and required for certain health issues. No matter that we may want to "fix" ourselves with diet and supplements - sometimes a drug is necessary.
Also - know that all information posted on the internet may not be accurate or true - including books too. LOL - fake news! So research - research - research!!
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Here's some interesting information:
Breast cancer survivors are at increased risk of developing thyroid cancer, especially within five years of their breast cancer diagnosis, according to a new analysis of a large national database. The study results will be presented Thursday at the Endocrine Society's 97th annual meeting in San Diego.
"Recognition of this association between breast and thyroid cancer should prompt vigilant screening for thyroid cancer among breast cancer survivors," said lead investigator Jennifer Hong Kuo, MD, assistant professor of surgery at Columbia University, New York City.
Breast cancer survivors, whose numbers are increasing, should receive counseling regarding their higher-than-average risk of thyroid cancer, Kuo recommended.
Until now, Dr. Kuo said, the relationship between breast and thyroid cancer has been controversial, largely based on single-institution studies that have suggested a possible increase in thyroid cancer incidence after breast cancer.
The researchers used the National Cancer Institute's Surveillance, Epidemiology, and End Results 9, or SEER 9, database to identify the number of individuals with a diagnosis of breast and/or thyroid cancer between 1973 and 2011. They found 704,402 patients with only breast cancer, 49,663 patients with only thyroid cancer and 1,526 patients who developed thyroid cancer after breast cancer.
Compared with patients with breast cancer alone, women who had breast cancer followed by thyroid cancer were younger on average when diagnosed with their breast cancer. They also were more likely to have had invasive ductal carcinoma (the most common type of breast cancer), a smaller focus of cancer, and to have received radiation therapy as part of their breast cancer treatment.
There was no difference in risk based on whether the breast cancer was hormone receptor positive or had spread to lymph nodes, according to the investigators.
Compared with patients who had only thyroid cancer, breast cancer survivors who developed thyroid cancer were more likely to have a more aggressive type of thyroid cancer, but the cancers were smaller in size and fewer patients required additional radioactive iodine treatment. Because thyroid cancer tends to occur at younger ages than breast cancer does, breast cancer survivors who then developed thyroid cancer were older on average than those with only thyroid cancer: 62 versus 45 years, respectively, Dr. Kuo reported.
The study findings showed that breast cancer survivors developed thyroid cancer at a median of five years. Therefore, Dr. Kuo recommended that every year for the first five years after a breast cancer diagnosis, especially survivors who received radiation therapy should undergo a dedicated thyroid exam.
Dr. Kuo said she plans to study whether tamoxifen treatment, typically given for five years after a breast cancer diagnosis, may play a role in increasing the risk of thyroid cancer.
Radiation therapy to the head, neck or chest is a known risk factor for thyroid cancer, according to the Endocrine Society's Hormone Health Network. Female sex raises the risk of both thyroid and breast cancer. The incidence of thyroid cancer is increasing, and Dr. Kuo said researchers must have a better understanding of the etiology for this increase.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/03/150307095938.htm
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I do believe that Thyroid Cancer and Breast Cancer has some sort of relation. The people in the medical community that I have spoken to do not share that belief.
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Firefly, and that is the problem. How can we trust them if they don't keep up. The article above was from Science Daily.
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I agree, thank you for sharing.
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It's so frustrating. Thank you for the article. One question how recently was it written marijen?
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I added the link to the article Kira, I think I found it here somewhere. Here's another topic https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/105/topic...
Metastasis to the thyroid.....
It is frustrating I guess the only thing to do is watch and wait.
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Lol sorry yes you did. In my case I've been on meds for my thyroid for 15 years. I do know my dose was raised after my first cancer diagnosis. So now with my 2nd diagnosis I'll have to really be watching.
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The specialist gave me a long explanation regarding the correlation wasn't really a correlation and now I can't remember what he said - but he did include statistics. I will have to ask him again in January. I just added the link after your request Kira, you were right it wasn't there.
Another link posted earlier - shows how much iodine in food. I am happy to leave it alone and not complicate symptoms. I do get enough in my food.
Here is that link https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Iodine-HealthProfessional/
A lot of information out there regarding thyroid and hypo. Are they in denial or what?
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Hi, I just wanted to chime in about iodine/kelp supplementation. I was taking kelp pills for about 3 months when I started to get pretty bad cramping/pain right below the stomach. I was worried it was an ulcer/gallbladder/something worse so I started to adjust my vitamins. The first one I changed was a "natural magnesium" which is made from sea algae or something like that. It said a lot of good things like having trace minerals and what not. After stopping it I felt slightly better, but the pain still came on suddenly sometimes. So I stopped taking kelp, and the pain subsided slowly, and now a week later, no more cramps! I'm not sure exactly what was causing it, but from now on I'll only be taking iodine or kelp occasionally when I think I didn't get enough from food. I use a dropper now that I picked up at the health food store, that way I can control how much I'm getting.
Supplements are not always good! I'm cutting down on "non-essential" vitamins and taking only what I think is important to me: like calcium/magnesium and vitamin D, along with probiotics.
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THIS is from cancer.net - iodine is needed in the diet for the thyroid. But there is also related information about iodized salt not being effective.
- Radiation exposure.Exposure to moderate levels of radiation to the head and neck may increase the risk of papillary and follicular thyroid cancer. Such sources of exposure include:
- Low-dose to moderate-dose x-ray treatments used before 1950 to treat children with acne, tonsillitis, and other head and neck problems.
- Radiation therapy for Hodgkin lymphoma or other forms of lymphoma in the head and neck.
- Exposure to radioactive iodine, also called I-131 or RAI, especially in childhood.
- Exposure to ionizing radiation, including radioactive fallout from atomic weapons testing during the 1950s and 1960s and nuclear power plant fallout. Examples include the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear power plant accident and the 2011 earthquake that damaged nuclear power plants in Fukushima, Japan. Another source of I-131 is environmental releases from atomic weapon production plants.
- Diet low in iodine. Iodine is needed for normal thyroid function. In the United States, iodine is added to salt to help prevent thyroid problems.
- Race. White people and Asian people are more likely to develop thyroid cancer, but this disease can affect a person of any race or ethnicity.
- Breast cancer. A recent study showed that breast cancer survivors may have a higher risk of thyroid cancer, particularly in the first 5 years after diagnosis and for those diagnosed with breast cancer at a younger age. This finding continues to be examined by researchers.
0 - Radiation exposure.Exposure to moderate levels of radiation to the head and neck may increase the risk of papillary and follicular thyroid cancer. Such sources of exposure include:
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I'm eating fish 3 times a week and usually eat an egg for breakfast daily. I'm guessing that I should be getting enough iodine. I chose not to supplement through pills.
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