So...whats for dinner?

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  • chisandy
    chisandy Posts: 11,646

    Despite having lived on Chicago’s North Side for 38 yrs., I am attuned to my Brooklyn roots and vastly prefer NY-style Neapolitan thin crust to either S.Side Chicago pub-style party-cut thin-crust or N. Side deep-dish. (The pizzas I liked best in Italy were those that came closest to NY-style). On occasion, I also like NYC Sicilian style semi-thick crust. I like to know approximately what and how much I’m eating, and that’s impossible with those little party-cut semi-squares of pub-style thin crust (less a pizza than a beer-accompaniment device). Calorie and carb counters (WW included) give values for a wedge-shaped slice of a given-size pie, and these guides are based on NY-style because that’s where they tend to have been published.

  • minustwo
    minustwo Posts: 13,798

    OK you guys - I WILL NOT go find some pizza, sigh. But I expect I will not be able to stop the pizza itch for very many days. Today I will eat my leftover steak & mushrooms in brandy cream sauce.

  • bedo
    bedo Posts: 1,431

    Minus I'm sure there are a lot of yummy pizza delivery places near you do you like mushrooms? Meat lovers? It could be there in 20 minutes It would taste so good.


    I made 10 breakfast burritos with scrambled eggs feta cheese cherry tomatoes and spinach and froze them and then I was going to make tuna with walnuts red grapes Greek yogurt and celery but I don't have a can opener so I guess tomorrow I'll have fish sticks peas and baked potato for lunch at work I listened to my Willie Nelson CD while I made it. I haven't listened to that in about 3 years " the last thing I needed the first thing this morning was to have you walk out on me" ha

  • Lacey12
    Lacey12 Posts: 2,895

    I'm lovin all the pizza talk!

    So for a change of pace, we picked up some nice flounder pieces from the fish vendor at the Farmer's Market this afternoon...also got some wonderful tender salad bowl lettuce. I had yet gotten around to making gazpacho in the last week, so committed to doing that today. So much chopping, then dicing in the food processor! But in the end it was tasty....will be even better tomorrow night. For our main course, I baked the flounder pieces with a "stuffing" of sautéed kale/onion/mushroom/garlic, served over a sauté of tomato/garlic/onion/basil. I made a salad with the new lettuce, adding only a few raisins and walnuts and my fave horseradish vinaigrette. Tomorrow we will finish the fish, have a nice big bowl of the gazpacho, and more salad. I have my "human trafficking prevention" meeting at 7PM so I wanted leftovers so I don't have to cook a real meal after stretching class. As it is, I'll be skipping zumba class after stretching....and really need it! :(

    April, my DH would love to stalk YOUR kitchen! Tho I think we may never have eaten any kind of fried chicken! I bet it is good after all that buttermilk soaking!


  • minustwo
    minustwo Posts: 13,798

    Lacey - I vote we go to April's for dinner.

    I've never cooked fried chicken, nor did my Mother. She just didn't fry things (except eggs) and I pretty much cook the same way - saute, broil, grill, bake, stir fry, roast, poach, etc. - I'm a fish out of water in the South where everything is still fried. In Texas it's almost a sin not to have this skill.

    Bedo - I love breakfast burritos. As for pizza - there are plenty of places that would deliver but I wouldn't say they are much better than frozen pizza from the grocery store. And you can't get just 2 slices. So I'll save up my calories.

  • Lacey12
    Lacey12 Posts: 2,895

    Minus, shall we wait for an invitation....or just crash??!! LOL

    We never had anything fried growing up either...so I also cook all the ways you described. Not sure what I would do in the South...I am guessing that many restaurants feature fried food...tho maybe not now that the American culinary style has changed to offer healthier choices.

  • Well, I want that fried chicken and don't even really eat that...haha.....and, as a rep from the DEEP south,...we really for the most part do NOT fry...except for the once or twice a summer zuchinni/eggplant...and, yes...if you prep the eggplant and slice the zuchinni very thinly...it is just the most delicious treat EV.ER.....not kidding. Oh...and every OTHER year...I do fry okra....can't tell y'all about it because I know you won't believe that okra can BE that good....trust me.  AND, hey...come to Rock Hill, South Carolina...and, I can PROVE it...haha.

  • chisandy
    chisandy Posts: 11,646

    Baked a couple of mini cauliflower-crust pizzas in the toaster oven. Meh. Tasted okay, and didn’t stick to the pan (used baking spray on foil this time), but that cauliflower crust never, ever sets up or gets crisp. Really mushy beneath the cheese.

    Friend’s birthday party lunch had crudites, DIY Italian beef sandwiches and baked ziti casserole, plus birthday cake. I had the crudites (no dip) and the Italian beef & peppers, but no roll. However, I did have birthday cake, plus some of the champagne I brought. I tried to drive there, but couldn’t park, so I drove home and called an Uber. And I caught a lift home with friends.

  • minustwo
    minustwo Posts: 13,798

    Happy - yes I do like fried zucchini appetizers & fried onion rings. And although I like fried shrimp, I usually try to order it some other way since there's a lot of breading in most places. But trust me - all my friends who grew up in Texas fry everything. I only eat fried foods when I'm out. No doubt SC has more traditional roots.

    I'd love to have CAROLE check into this discussion and comment about Louisiana. We miss you Carole.

  • eric95us
    eric95us Posts: 3,345

    One of these days, when I get a moment, I would like to try making a sourdough crust pizza. DD works at a pizza place, so I don't know if she'd be interested in eating pizza, so it might need to be a personal pan pizza.


  • april485
    april485 Posts: 1,983

    My Mom got the recipe for this chicken from her best friend who was from AL. She made it all the time (she was our next door neighbor until I was 12) and I would eat it without giving it a second thought as a child.

    The fried chicken was so good. Perhaps it was because I never eat deep fried food anymore that it tasted like heaven. I even bake all French fries in this house. Frying things in fat make them taste so good but it is so darn bad for you. I kept singing to myself as I was eating that lovely chicken "If loving you is wrong, then I don't want to be right" LOL!

    Just that little sting of cayenne in the dredge and a bit of siracha in the buttermilk made it have just the right amount of spice. It was really a treat. Brownies have been boxed up and my co-workers have finished them off (except for the three I left home for DH) and the left over chicken will be his dinner tonight along with the potatoes. I am having a big salad with some grilled chicken that I made over the weekend. The guilt of yesterday will be but a memory soon (and a good one at that!)

  • specialk
    specialk Posts: 9,299

    lacey - how do you make the horseradish vinaigrette? I have a creamy horseradish dressing but I'm curious about a vinaigrette style.

    I have not been cooking other than prepping some Hawaiian meatballs, chicken and a pot of chili for DH/DD. I am in California helping my friend (the same one I did the garage/house cleanup and organization with last year) because she is having a liver biopsy right now as I'm typing this. She has had long term elevated values but no discernible disease based on imaging and other labs. She is single and does not have family nearby. She has taken the week off so once she is recovered, probably by Wed a.m. we will go see a movie, shop, lunch, etc. I am here until next Mon.

    On the pizza front - we did have a brick oven one with prosciutto, red pears, fresh mozzarella, topped with arugula. It was good, with thin crispy bottom but with chewy edge. My fave is still the one with potatoes at Hot Italian - not sure if we will get over there. Last time the potatoes were diced instead of thinly sliced and it wasn't as good

  • SpecialK. you are an amazing friend. I hope that your friend recovers quickly, but I can't imagine a liver biopsy. I would think that food would take a backseat to liver biopsies.

    Our dinner was pretty good. Mr. 02143 bought a rack of lamb at Costco today. I had a short time to dry brine. Sadly, this is the first gamey rack we have bought from costco. It was just okay. The farmer's market potatoes on the other hand were amazing. I simmer them until al dente, and then sautéed them with some market onions. I made a ton of salad. For him I sliced some carrots on the mandolin, and for me, a cucumber salad. We will have the leftovers mid-morning, and then we are headed to the Cape for a short R&R. Much needed, I think.

    *susan*

  • minustwo
    minustwo Posts: 13,798

    Susan - hooray for your R&R. You'll have to send details when you return.

  • Baked some chicken thighs and breast tonight with a mustard based BBQ sauce, lovely garden veggie salad and baked potato fries...some home made blue cheese dressing...it was SO good!  Often, the simplest suppers are the best!

  • minustwo
    minustwo Posts: 13,798

    I guess dinner is a non-starter since it's 9:30pm. I ran 6 errands this morning and went to the gym to walk on the tread mill for 45 minutes, so lunch didn't happen until 4pm. Too hungry to think about cooking by then so I picked up an Orange Mandarin Chicken Bowl w/ Fried Rice from Panda Express on the way home. That is a LOT of food. I ate about 1/4 so will have significant leftovers.

    Special - somehow I'm remembering your friend is in Sacramento? Or Stockton? Anyway, northern CA? You are a super friend to go take care of her. Hope everything goes well and you can have some fun time too.

  • chisandy
    chisandy Posts: 11,646

    NPO after midnight tonight, so I had five Buffalo wings with celery & dressing, some gelato (a sm. scoop each of macchiato, dbl. dark chocolate, and salted caramel), 3 oz. of Mumm Santana Brut (drown my sorrows after yet another Bears loss), and some WF house-made taco chips (they are like crack). Gotta be up at 4 am, out by 5:15 and at the ambulatory surgery clinic at Highland Park Hosp. (30+ mi. n.) by 6 for my 7:30 trigger thumb surgery. Dunno how well I will be typing w/o using my R thumb for a couple of days, so this may herald a mini-hiatus here for me.

  • specialk
    specialk Posts: 9,299

    susan - surprisingly a liver biopsy is pretty easy - very similar to a breast biopsy. Hollow core gun, the only difference was some conscious sedation. Very short procedure - about 15 mins. We walked in at 9, out at 11.

    minus - I'm in Sacramento - good memory!

    chisandy - good luck tomorrow! Let us know how you are doing when you can

  • minustwo
    minustwo Posts: 13,798

    Sandy - hope all goes well. I will look forward to details down the road since I'm still putting off my trigger thumb surgery.

  • Lacey12
    Lacey12 Posts: 2,895

    Sandy, sending positive vibes to you for good outcome....and expecting that your hiatus will be short-lived given the way you hopped back here post cataract surgery!

    Soecial....ditto about what a great and caring friend you are! I am barely thinking at this late hour so will share my made up horseradish dressing recipe next time I pist. It really is light, zippy and delish

  • Lacey12
    Lacey12 Posts: 2,895

    We just returned from a talk given by several docs at the Spine Center of our local hospital (connected to MGH). First of all, I was stunned to see the setting in which this place was located. An off the beaten path office park that reminded me of a perfect Hollywood set! Hospitals' services are mushrooming everywhere! The talks were useful, and DH, of course posed the question of how integrated their services were....they're working on it!

    So afterwards we were hungry.....and few places were open in this sleepy burg, so we ended up getting take out from Hearth Pizza (DH a veggie calzone, and me an interesting multi ingredient salad with beef tips over top) It was all fine, if not special.

    And Special, this is what I do to make a horseradish dressing....pardon my lack of measurements (why I am a cook and not a baker!). I blend olive oil, pinot grigio ( or a light balsamic) vinegar with a minced clove of garlic, a bit of dijon mustard, a generous teaspoon of horse radish, s and p, and a teaspoon or so of honey. It Is delightfully light with a bit sweetness and a bite. I think I mentioned that I had a similar dressing at a wedding I attended in May, and loved it. I still do!


  • chisandy
    chisandy Posts: 11,646

    I didn't go through with the surgery after all.

    The whole time from arising to arrival and admission, my gut was telling me "don't do this, don't do this..." Every time someone came in to see me (take vitals, sign consents, pre-anesthesia talk, etc.) it seemed I was in the bathroom. My thumb had stopped painfully triggering (except on arising) and pretty much stopped triggering at all two weeks ago; and something inside me said to leave well-enough alone--especially the ordeal of starting an I.V. and the ever-present worry of my stage 0 lymphedema raising the risks of cellulitis from the anesthesia shots and the surgical wounds & sutures (not an LE attack, since there's no tourniquet). If I was still hurting, that'd be one thing. The anesthesiologist and scrub nurse said not to do anything till I spoke to the surgeon, something I never got to do since scheduling the surgery--all my communications were phone and patient-portal messaging back-and-forth with his NP. Neither he nor she had seen my now-well-behaved thumb.

    He came in (1/2 hr. late) and finally examined me, holding the base of the thumb while I flexed it. He said he didn't feel the nodule and said that either the cortisone had finally been absorbed & processed or that the triggering was self-limiting & may never come back. But he said he had no idea how long till the cortisone wears off. I asked him what happens, in his experience, in situations like this. He left the decision up to me, saying "It's a 'lifestyle' surgery, not just elective like your cataract surgery. I have patients I have to practically drag into the O.R. for a crucial operation, and you're not one of them." He said that any stiffness I'm feeling when not triggering is the mild-to-moderate arthritis he saw on the first X-ray, which this surgery wouldn't help; if it comes back to the extent I can no longer tolerate it, I could always reschedule or try another shot first and cut later. And he said I could refuse sedation, pop a Xanax first (if I wasn't driving) and just have a regional & local--the only downside, he said, was that I'd be awake for the 10 minutes the surgery took and would remember it (just like I remember the L thumb surgery 7 yrs. later). I apologized to him (and especially to my housekeeper--whom I'd paid a bonus for this) and he said no problem, he had a full schedule of patients who would be glad to have their surgeries start on time after all. He also said, "Now you can go have breakfast at Walker Bros. Pancake House down the road." Which is exactly what we did--sharing the giant baked cinnamon-apple pancake and bringing half of it home for Gordy.

    Got home about 9:30. I told my housekeeper to take the rest of the day off and headed upstairs for a nap (having forgotten to take the rest of my morning meds). Woke up 3 hrs. later and...ouch--triggering, sore enough to feel in my palm! But by the time I'd gotten to the bathroom to put in my second eye drop, it was gone. Celebrex is keeping it at bay. Think I will ride this out and maybe revisit it when I get back from Iowa, after my second cataract surgery Nov. 2.

    Late lunch was an insalata caprese using a little home-grown heirloom “tiger" tomato, basil and fresh mozzarella. Dinner was low-carb eggplant parmigiana. Sliced some eggplant, salted and drained between paper towels, then sprinkled with olive oil & a mixture of grated Parm-Reg and pecorino Romano. Browned in a nonstick skillet till translucent & the cheese golden. Layered in a foil-line toaster-oven pan with marinara sauce, basil, more grated cheese and fresh mozz. Baked at 350F till the mozz. melted and began to bubble & brown. Had to fight off the cats to be able to finish it. No dessert tonight--that apple pancake this morning front-loaded it! (So big that we each had only 1/4 of it).

  • minustwo
    minustwo Posts: 13,798

    Sandy - hooray. I think that's a good decision.

    I had 5 steroids shots for my left trigger thumb approximately 4 months apart over a 2 year period. Then didn't need one for 11 months. Then didn't need one for 8 more months. So only one in 2015 & one in 2016. Both the doc & I have agreed that this is working fine and no need to proceed with surgery. Unfortunately the right thumb started doing the same thing just one year ago. He's perfectly happy to give me the steroid shots for awhile spaced over 3-4 month periods to see if this one will also resolve or "heal itself".

    Lacey - thanks for posting the dressing. I'm going to try it too.

  • chisandy
    chisandy Posts: 11,646

    Minus, how long did it take for each shot to kick in?

  • minustwo
    minustwo Posts: 13,798

    Sandy - I usually have some relief in 24 hours, but the right seems to be more stubborn than the left was. It might take as long as 3 days for complete relief. And yes, I still have some arthritis but I'm discounting that.

  • chisandy
    chisandy Posts: 11,646

    Wow. My left ones took effect in a day or two (back in 2006 & 2009) but the right one took 8 weeks.

  • minustwo
    minustwo Posts: 13,798

    Sandy - I've been re-thinking my answer, and I do remember that I had decided one of the shots in my right thumb hadn't worked at all. It must have been more than a week of frustration before I stopped thinking about it & so eventually realized it had in fact worked. But 8 weeks is an eternity. I wonder if we're getting the same compound? I can email and find out the drug I'm getting if you want.

    BTW - I also have truncal & breast LE. I don't allow cuffs or sticks in either arm except these shots. Even flu shots I find somewhere & pay to have them in my hip or butt. When I have surgery - even to remove my port in July - I only let them have access in my foot & they run the anesthesia from there. It's been a nightmare trying to find someone who will do the blood draws in my foot. Never a dull moment!!

  • chisandy
    chisandy Posts: 11,646

    I’m lucky enough to have LE only on the R, and stage 0 at that. If the pharmacy won’t give me my flu shot in the L arm, I'll have my primary do it in my hip (and I'll eat the extra cost). The combo of drugs in my steroid shot this time was the same as 10 yrs ago: triamcinolone + lidocaine.

  • minustwo
    minustwo Posts: 13,798
    Sandy: Just heard back from

    my doc & this is was he uses for my shots.

    Depo-Medrol 20mg/Xylocaine.

  • chisandy
    chisandy Posts: 11,646

    I messaged my current surgeon’s office, and found that he used the same formulation as yours--but my surgeon from 10 yrs ago used triamcinilone/lidocaine.