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  • Nettie1964
    Nettie1964 Posts: 627

    I'm just hanging around!!  Been reading, but for some reason can't quite focus!  Sorry for the bad news Cammi!  Keep us posted!  For some reason, my phone has now decided that I can't see the menu for the BCO website so I can't get into the threads until I'm on a computer!  Weird and aggravating!

    Patiently waiting for April 30th!  Really still want to call and cancel!  BTW, not sure if I mentioned it, but the appt is with an Ortho Doctor!  Decided to make the appt myself!  Hopefully it will just be old age! You know, arthiritis, bursitis and any other itis as long as it's not the big C!  But I'm still really scared!

    Sorry to be so self centered today, probably will be like this until after the appt.

    I also had a mean FIL, but he was only mean when he was drunk!  Everyone in the family was scared of him except me and he knew it and always managed to behave around me or avoid me altogether!  It only took one time of confrontation and he caught me in a mood and that was that, from then on, he never acted out in front of me!  Sad to say, he was killed in an auto accident in 1997, actually it was the week of April 25th so it's close to the anniversary!  When he wasn't drinking he was actually very fun to be around!

    My head is hurting again today....not sure when or how I will have that checked!  It's not like a headache, it's like a pain in my head!  I have had the brain MRI and it was clear!  This was done while still taking chemo, so it's been awhile, may have to schedule another, but even the open air (I'm VERY claustrophic) was scary to me, I almost didn't make it, so I really don't want to do that again!

    Well, I'm rambling, better get back to work!

    Hope you all have a great day!

  • Happy Earth Day to all.

    Doing some puttering around the garden and barnyard just to enjoy the outdoors. Then my Uncle who is a Priest will be stopping by for a visit this afternoon. That will be interesting! When he sees the state of my house which hasn't been cleaned in forever, he'll probably call for an Exorcism! 

    So here's a funny surgery day story.  I got undressed and put my surgical gown on in pre-op.
    Dr. comes in and markers on me and then tells me I can put my underwear
    back on. I didn't think much about it. I get wheeled into the OR and
    the team of nurses and anesthesia, etc. are getting me ready. Some of
    the nurses say, "Oh No, you left your underwear on!" And the other
    nurses say, "She has Dr. S." The room gets a little quiet and I ask,
    "what does that mean?" And one happy nurse explains, "Dr. S. likes to
    sit you up during surgery and tuck your hands into your underwear."
    What?!! Apparently he moves his patients into different positions to
    see how the implant will look with movement and gravity. Which is all
    fine and dandy, but the idea of me sitting up with my hands in my
    underwear while everyone checks out the boobs is a little too much for
    my dignity!

    I jokingly warned the Dr. when he came in I better not come across any Instagram or Facebook pics on the internet.

  • Pawprint
    Pawprint Posts: 354

    Holeinone,

    Thank you for remembering and liking my original name. It really did fit, for many of us. BC changed so many dreams.....hope you're doing well.

  • camillegal
    camillegal Posts: 15,710

    FBB hahaha--Oh that would have been fun to see on FB. hahaha

    OK Chevy U'r posts are getting to organized, what's going on. The Walmart mentality is still the same so that helps but organization, I don't think so.

    OK I talked to the IRS today and I'm getting my papers organized, u know how many accountants are on vacation? All of them. So this will be done by muah--this should prove interesting. Do they let u use computers in jail??? I think so. Nothing much will change then.

    OK nap time again, thinking is very tiring.

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Posts: 10,258

    Cammi!  What IS today?  Do you have to file income taxes?  Is that what you are talking to them about?  Ah man!  Just don't go getting in no  trouble!   You will surely be with Phylli and her ankle monitor!   Just tell those IRS people who they are, and where they can go, and then make a run for it.... You be Clyde, and I'll be Bonnie...  Geez, I HATE running from the Police people!  

    YOU are doing your own accounting?  How could that happen?  I'm coming to take your computer away....   I think those law-men are smarter than we are....  

    Now I will be worrying all the while that  I'm making Chicken & dumplings.... NOT with "THE" chickens.... just left-over Chicken... that we bought.... that doesn't know us....   BUT I DID use one of "their" eggs for the Dumplings....!

  • 2nd_time_around
    2nd_time_around Posts: 14,084

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  • camillegal
    camillegal Posts: 15,710

    2nd--so right ThumbsUp

    Yes Chevy I'm doing 5 yrs worth of taxes, yes I know, but I really thought I was going to die, those damn Drs. have kept me going, I should sue them---I got all mixed up with this death and taxes and stuff. That's why I said---but I have no assets or monies hidden in anything so what I get a month is it. They make it so complicated, but because I lost my home somehow this makes it like I had property that made money for me--I was foreclosed--Oh life it is never without interest $$$$.

  • Smaarty
    Smaarty Posts: 2,615

    Cami &chevy, you guys crack me up.

    So this was the 2nd day of packing for my MIL. Today went well, my daughter came over so she gets along great with her and they got her bedroom organized with what's stay and what's going. Yesterday was fine until we went down to the apartment. Then she gets all mad because she thinks she on the wrong side of the building. She's been saying she wants the street side, not the parking lot side for the past 8 months.  Her short term memory seems to be getting worse every day and she knows it. Keeps wanting to go to the bank but we did it yesterday. She's selling her car to my GS but keeps asking what she'll do with the car. I'm hoping to get it out of there tomorrow without her freaking out too much. We need to find paperwork on the car and mobile home but haven't pushed her to find it. We' ll see how tomorrow goes. It's the kitchen and bathrooms. She has been good about tossing stuff. But she says one day she doesn't want stuff then the next she does. Hoping she forgets about it tomorrow. 

    So some of you have recent anniversaries. Which day do you use?  When dx or last surgery? Or when you get the all clear?  Sorry to those who haven't got there yet, don't want to be insensitive.

  • camillegal
    camillegal Posts: 15,710

    Smarty what u'r doing is so difficult and going thru things that one day arent'e needed and the next day missed and it just seems so not fair, but I think some of us have gone thru this and it sucks. So my feeling go out to u'r family, but I'm glad u'r DD came that makes it a little easier.My dad was blind and this may sound cruel, but when we moved my dad whatever he remembered that he wanted we said OK we've got it and it made it so simple for us. OK my sister and I are cruel.


  • Just wanted to pop in and say hello. Miss ya'll, I haven't been around in a few days. I'm having a hard time, who isn't right? ((hugs))

  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Posts: 8,178

    My FIL had Alzheimer's Parkinson's, and was alcoholic. Had no business driving. His sons hid the car in #3 sons garage. Had to make some wild excuses where the car was, but all concerned was safe with him off the road. MIL never learned to drive. 

  • camillegal
    camillegal Posts: 15,710

    Wow so much trouble with taking cars, their independence, it's not ease--I was so lucky my dad gave me his title signed and the keys and said it's time to stop driving, sell u'r car and take mine--at the time his was just a couple of yrs old with low mileage and that was it. He made it so easy for us, my om never drove, but between my sister and I (and my kids) we got her around fine. And she'd always say when it's convenient for any of us--well we always made sure it was convenient--the only thing I refused to do was take her shopping to any kind of mall or store like that.. she was crazy, but my sister and DD2 loved doing that with her so it worked out fine.

    Oh I'm planning to go out to lunch today with my GFs and my sister and cousin, so I'm looking forward to that.

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Posts: 10,258

    Hey gals! 

    2nd!   I like that cartoon!  image I think I will take that personal...Ha!

    Cammi dear... I THINK you are supposed to talk to those tax people, usually within a year or so, after the time you have refused to acknowledge them!  They are out to get you... AND us...  But you in your circumstances of deciding to stay around awhile, really NEED to know that you are just that!  Still HERE! 

    Never mind what the Doctors say...  We don't have to believe them, or even mind them...  at least in YOUR case.   Don't go kickin' the bucket, without at least warning those IRS people.   And before you do, you have to assure them that they will get every last cent they think you owe them... all $24 dollars!

    Best not to sue those Doctors either...  THEY are maybe worse than the IRS!  I'm with them...  We want you here with us... 'ceptin, it DOES cost money to hang around awhile...  5 years????  Damn girl!  You really know how to piss them off, don't you? 

    Smarty... Oh man, your post brings back so many memories about moving my Grandma...  After her heart-attack, she went directly to an assisted living place!  I thought she would be going back to her little home, soon! 

    I took her dog Patti, to live with us...  And I rented a van, and moved some of her furniture to that room she had...   I got her a phone.... But soon, she would be calling me like 7 times a day.... forgetting she had just called me!  I was only a block away, and I would run over there every day with her dog, to visit, but it was obvious SOMEthing wasn't quite right in her head!  They say a sudden shock, or illness can cause Dementia of some sort...

    She just kept getting more forgetful, and I kept trying to help her, like another Daughter of mine...  She forgot she had a Son and Daughter..

    So I made her an album of lots of old pictures of her family, but she didn't know anybody...  And that was okay...  she had me.... and that was all she remembered... 

    I would go over and give her showers!  And I would tell her I would scrub her with a bristle brush, like she did me and my Brother, and we would both laugh!  And then I would set her down, all bundled up in her robe, and do her hair!  I'd go over later and comb it out for her...

    The staff would tell me that she would forget to walk to the dining-room to eat her meals... and would only stay in her room...  When she DID go down for meals, she would sometimes whack the other people at the table with her cane! 

    So it became rather obvious that I had to make other living arrangements...   She had lost so much memory by this time...  I was the only one she knew...  and I was the only one that cared... 

    I found a nice nursing home for her, with help from the State, and since she didn't have any money left, after this year in the assisted living place, I was made her POA, and since her home was still in her name, we could rent it, for minimal rent... just enough to pay the taxes and insurance....  And the State paid for her care...

    She never WAS mean though... but I know a lot of people can't help how they act...! 

    That last year, was so sad... watching her go down-hill...   But at least I had that special time with her... 

    She had been a cantankerous old soul, all her life!   Hell bent on causing some kind of problems with the family!   But since I was just a kid, who tried to stay away, I didn't have to get caught up in that mess!

    But when all this happened, it was just me...  No-one else was around, and no-one wanted any part of her...   But I learned to love her through all of that...  She had no-one... and she had driven me crazy, trying to figure out WHAT to do... but we got through it... And she meant so much to me! 

    My MIL was a different story... Ungrateful from the beginning... so lots of luck with YOUR MIL...Ha!   Thinking of you...

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Posts: 10,258

    And another thing!  Isn't it funny, that the Daughter's in law are always the ones who take CARE of our Husbands  Mother's?    I mean we moved our MIL at least 4 times that I remember...  I say their SON'S should have to deal with them! 

    My SIL and I did everything we could to fix up her chosen places, but never did we get a thank-you, or so much as a nice word... just complaints all the time...  And even when we brought her food!  We would hear her telling a neighbor, how "lousy" our cooking was!   

    But we carried on!   We could just never make this woman happy...  nor could anyone, or anything else...    I think that's the reason the "ole man" drank.

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Posts: 10,258

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  • Nettie1964
    Nettie1964 Posts: 627

    Morning ladies!  Not having such a great start!  Hurting pretty good this morning, hopefully it will work it's way out soon!  Got to get up from this desk and move around, that always seems to help!

    I have MIL stories that could take days to write about, so I won't bore you, but I'll just say that my MIL is only 69 but she has caused some issues!  Maybe one day I'll write about, who knows, maybe even later today!

    Wishing you all a good day!

    Haven't chickened out of the appt yet, but getting close, especially considering how I feel today, it can't be good news!

  • Nettie1964
    Nettie1964 Posts: 627

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    Nettie1964 Posts: 627

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    Just trying to find some laughter for today!  Trying to lighten the mood!

  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Posts: 8,178

    Nettie!! Those are so funny! Please put them on Tekas Warm and Fuzzy thread!

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Posts: 15,889

    HELLO OWLETTES-----Yes glowing. Probably imprinting ---leaving a trail of radioactive stuff everywhere now, but somewhere about 5:30 am today just decided not to care. Actually, am being careful, but not as OCD. Using baggy over phone. Doing other stuff too. 

    OF COURSE, found omissions in all the national guidelines, once I had to work under the problem of the treatment and the application of the guideline. Will decide where I want to post them for anyone elses use and let you know as an FYI thingy. 

    Feeling majorly, better today YAY. May tolerate a couple more days without getting back on thyroid med. That would allow me to glow for longer which would be good. RO said Thursday to restart med. Endocrin said seven. Since the cancer was spread throughout the thyroid in a very odd random pattern that the RO said was unusual. Methinks, if I can just go a few more days I'd be better off. i.e. getting maximum amount of drug exposure. The Thyroglobulin test showed there is a wee bit of thyroid tissue or mets  SOME WHERE. So, again it's encouragement to keep glowing.

    CAMI< this sucks....keeps us up on it.

    Mostly Mom  WHAT A GREAT anniversary for DD YAY

    FFBLUEBIRD---I've worked in surgery----Those nurses may groan b/c it's serious work--lifting, supporting, etc and multiple people have to come help to move a patient under anesthesia---Ain't easy babe, BUT he's looking to prevent all the problems that Vinnie's complaining about -----YAY for you and KUDOS to your doc. This tells me he's a perfectionist for results. Wish my doc had been that way :) Mine aren't that bad as some I've seen, but my cleavage kind of goes off in the wrong direction, and I have a shelf b/c he added too much fluid. Had he sat me up, he would have seen both immediately. Plus, I needed a nip and tuck on one side that any semstress would be aghast at leaving.

    I got a seriously stern chastisement from DS , for taking phone off the hook yesterday. He actually came here to the thread to find out if there was a clue as to what I was up too, he was so worried. Saw my post from Monday about not posting.

    Pawprint, but your old name , frankly, was a serious downer. It's like my old maiden name initials were SAD, my married name initials are SAS.  While I love the Family name, SAD always made me just that sad because it wasn't me. SAS fit so much better, and I felt like it carried a message too LOL. You love your dog, it makes me think of love when I see Pawprint. Fairly sure that's what I remember what you said about your dog when you changed your screen name?

    Chevy life is much better with your teasing --never stop HUGS

    Golfgorl, thanks, it felt like you got a few good golf swings in that pocket over last two days LOL

    Jwoohoooo are you an artist? Your avatars are always so artsy and it's you. They remind me of Andy Warhols (sic?). I like them allott. Always study them when you change it.

    Maddy going to try and C&P your pic that you posted for me and see if I can't make it my avatar. Wanted to change to a glowing radioactive, but they told me I had about a 1/2 hour before the whole body would be glowing, so, wanted to be off keyboard. 

    Heard from phillyonherway home ---she was in Kansas last night. Had been at Mammouth cave yesterday. She'll be back in nebraska tonight.

    Blondie YAY red devil over, hope you feel better girl, you need a break from awful.

    Nettie---please, don't cancel, better to know and deal with it, than put off and have things be worse honest :) Like this thyroid cancer thingy, doc screwed up and missed it in the bx last July. Now, I have to deal with a cancer that is 9 months older than it was. Chit, changes everything. If it gets bad and does mets. I will always wonder if it'd been handled better what the outcome would have been. The type of cancer it is, is highly treatable with great outcomes-----but his f**ck up changed the whole story. 

    bbl phone call from old friend

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Posts: 10,258

    Okay, so Sassy, post a picture of him, so we will know when we SEE some strange man showing up on here... Kay?  Now you REALLY have to behave!   We could make up funny things about you, and he would beLIEVE them!   Ha, ha! 

    So no side-effects?  Other than everything you touch goes up in flames?  Or is a neon-shade of green? 

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Posts: 1,418

    Sas, my father wanted to make my middle name Olivia, so I would be SOB.....mom of course said no, middle name is Ann, so it was SAB...

    Phyliltravelor, what a cool adventure you have been on, please share the highlights.

    Cami, enjoy your lunch out, martini lunch?  the IRS can just leave you alone, holy smokes, why don't they go after some of those huge oil Co. That pay no taxes...

    Speaking of martini, I love a lemon drop martini, have not had one in, well pre bc, so 10 months. It is on my must do in the next girls night out. Local restaurant makes really good ones. 

    Chevy, your grandma was so lucky to have you. I helped take care of FIL, who out of my 4 parents, was the one that was so special. My dad & MIL died suddenly, no warning. 

    Nettie, getter done. I am practical, had a US 3 weeks ago, almost cancelled because I finally accepted that the node in ? Was ok, chemo & radiation did its job. But if I had not already paid the $6,000 out of pocket, I would of been crazy with spending more $. 

    How do most people afford this stinkin disease ? I hate that my travel savings has been spent on cancer. I know I should not complain, but it surprises me that more people don't whine about the cost on these threads.

    Hope all has a productive day, I got so much done yesterday....it was a miracle...

  • 2nd_time_around
    2nd_time_around Posts: 14,084

    Nettie, thanks for the laughs! Had to share the Elmo one on my FB. Sometimes just looking for funnies and posting them makes me change my mood to happy. Like Hi1 said, just do it. The stress it's putting on you must be horrible. 

    Smaarty, reading what you wrote about the downsizing brought back memories of last year. Mom put up such a stink if she knew I was discarding even one thing (even if it had huge tears in it). Would play the game that when she went to the bathroom (which she did frequently and for long periods of time), I'd grab clothes from her closet by the arm-ful and stash in the guest room where she seldom went. Then, when she busy watching tv or napping, I'd go thru the items - trash, give-away or keep. My mom literally had hundreds of tops she collected for the past 20 years (and gotten from friends and family as well as Dad and I taking her shopping). I could hold tops up to me and "measure" to determine quickly if they may fit. Now, she's about a 12/14 but had clothes up to 5X (she was never that big). When she couldn't see me, I'd put the large bags of clothes in Dad's car's trunk or back seat and the next day we would deposit to charity. Also wouldn't let her see me put the really ratty stuff in the trash. She's at the point now where she wants to save old used kleenex, like that's going to happen!

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  • Nettie1964
    Nettie1964 Posts: 627

    Dang I am a whiny one today!!  Can't seem to get past the hump!!  And it is hump day!  And I do have massage therapy later today...Hoping it doesn't hurt to bad, but usually that is not the case! 

    On a happy note, I am having dinner with a cousin who is in from Colorado, she's military and will be leaving in September to be stationed in Hawaii (poor girl)!  But we don't get to visit often, so this is a treasured time!!

  • 2nd_time_around
    2nd_time_around Posts: 14,084

    Hi1, SAB is better than SOB!

    Nettie, let's hope the massage HELPS instead of HURTS. Try to relax (I know, easier said than done at times). Enjoy your dinner out

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  • 2nd_time_around
    2nd_time_around Posts: 14,084

    Some say this works: 

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    I'm a bit skeptical - this probably comes from someone who hasn't had cancer!

  • ziggypop
    ziggypop Posts: 276

    Hello Owlettes! Hi sassypants my sweet little radioactive friend! I have been missing all of you and since they let chevy and me out of the doghouse, I've been really LONELY. I was getting used to having the chevster as a roomie, even though she did break my finger flying around on that pole of hers. I did finally break down and go to the er - they know me by name now, they all just look at me and roll their eyes. 

    I can't catch up here with everything sounds like many are having probs with husbands who don't know how to behave properly and family with dementia. Oh lord can I relate to the second as I live with my mom who has what is luckily mostly a happy dementia. Nobody should ever feel bad about how they have to go about getting rid of stuff - if you can find a way to do it that they are not getting sad or upset, that's great. My mother fills bottle and jars (anything with a lid) with water "in case the electricity goes out." There were about 60 gallon jugs all around the house when I moved back here. Now I generally empty about 10 to 15 per week. Sometimes she forgets to fill them and I get a break, but it's always something. If the catfood gets wet, she'll try to dry it in the microwave & burn it & then dump it back in with the other cat food & then the kitty won't eat any of it. For awhile she saved lint from the dryer because she heard that "people can make paper from it." But she's mostly happy and I figure that's really all that matters - I took care of my great aunt for a couple years and she had really bad spells when she thought we were stealing her dishtowels (which she snuck upstairs and put in her dresser drawers every night). Part of life I guess, but the people I have taken care of have all been people who I love dearly - can't imagine doing it for someone I never liked particularly in the first place. Those of you who do that or have done deserve sainthood.. really. 

    Nettie, make sure to keep that appointment.. it's always better to know what it is, and no point to be in pain everyday when there is possibly a solution for it. 

    Luvmygoats.. you asked me awhile ago about seeds. If they are wildflower seeds, you are supposed to clear a bed for them, but seeds are inexpensive and since you don't like to dig up the weeds and grass and all, which can be a real pain, maybe just mow or weed whack (or don't even do that), toss them out there & water the area every day for a week at least. You'll probably get somethings up. At the end of the season. you could consider mowing everything back, pouring boiling H2O over the area and covering it with plastic for the winter - that should give you a pretty clear area for next spring.

    FBB - I was thinking just the other day that you would think they'd do reconstruction on gurneys that can be raised up so that they can see what's what. I don't get though why it helps to have your hands in your underpants. But, I am happy to here that you're out doing things because you need to be in shape for our ledge dancing escapade. 

    I don't know about posting pictures that say "Happy hump day" - chevy will take it the wrong way for sure and I hear Vinnie's busy right now (actually I think that chevy just tuckered him out entirely). That poor ol' biddybat will be all frustrated and just not know what to do. And then she'll start telling cami some story cami won't understand 'cause it doesn't make any sense and cami just had tests and such so we need to be nice to her for awhile. 

    All of you who are feeling bad or have chit going on, I hope it's better soon, try to treat yourself to something specially nice, even if it's just a little something. 

    Okay. time to go empty water bottles or something.. 

    Happy day! 

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Posts: 10,258

    Lilshit!  YOU are a Saint!  Honest.....  I remember my Grandma was so upset onetime, because she told me "all those women" at the assisted living were stealing her lip-sticks! "  I looked all over for them, but no lipsticks...  So I brought her a bunch more of mine....  

    Finally, when I had to take her little red velvet Christmas tree back home, I found all her little lipsticks, stuck in between the red ruffles.... hiding them from "those women."  I didn't say a word about them...  I didn't want her to think she had forgotten.   I would have done ANYthing for her.... at that time...  just breaks your heart.... I used to cry all the way to work, when I would leave her....   She just didn't know anything.... and was afraid of everything.  I'm glad you have your Mom Ziggy....  You are a sweetheart!

    YOU went to emergency?  Why?  Did your finger fall off somewhere?  And you picked it up in a dust-pan, and took it with you?    No wonder they shook their collective little heads!  So NOW take a picture! 

    Yes... Vinnie called, and said he was just too tired  to carry on with this old little biddy-bat!  Ha, ha!    I KNOW he'll be back though...  Man I was WORRIED when he went sailin' head first out of that hay-loft!    He'll  never be the same...  He's probably still recovering somewhere....  and that CAMMI said she was ALWAYS available!  That brat!  Men are soooooooo easy! 

    I KNOW what "hump-day" is....  little tartlet!    Yes, every Wednesday....  that's as good a day as any to......  oh wait....  never mind.

  • so happy to see sas is back and ziggy and Chevy are up to their old tricks again. Not "tricks" - shenanigans.

    Holeinone, we haven't gone anywhere other than doctor visits, emergency rooms and hospitals for so long I forget what it's like to relax. Just saw my hospital bill for 3 days in a shared room, $97,000. That's just the hospital portion, not surgery. Medical costs are depressing and scary. 

    I'm kind of in a bad place mentally waiting for more tests on Friday and a treatment plan. Wish this dang pneumonia would clear up. It's hard to be positive when you don't feel well.