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Paget's Disease of the Breast

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  • Pirina
    Pirina Member Posts: 18
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    Stasiam, that's sort of what is happening to me. Tired more than usual. And I haven't had a cold or flu in years and had both this year. I guess stress brings the immune system down. I work way to much and have a bunch of kids and grandkids to keep me busy. my youngest child just turned 2. He's a handful. LOL.

  • CassDugan
    CassDugan Member Posts: 24
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    I am pretty sure my BC is back. I have all the same Pagetoid signs and symptoms as at first. Feeling hopeless. Using finals as an excuse to keep my head firmly in denial.

  • lou23
    lou23 Member Posts: 149
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    Sorry to hear that Case, let's hope it's not. Fingers crossed for you. I have another op tomorrow, they are hoping for a clear margin this time, my surgeon is saying I may need no more treatment if all goes well, I'm a bit confused as every thing I have read says usually you need radiotherapy.

  • Momnorth104
    Momnorth104 Member Posts: 3
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    Thank you for your note. I am even more confused and concerned than before. So my unltrasound and mammo came back clear. Over the weekend though the nipple became worse with a blister and discharge. It still itches and the breast is still shrinking. The doctor did give me a referral to breast specialist but says theres nothing to worry about. How can that BE!!??

  • lou23
    lou23 Member Posts: 149
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    Lets hope your referral is quick, a biopsy will put your mind at rest.

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,831
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    Cass: fingers crossed for you.  Hoping it is not a repeat.

    Lou: I am confused too. With lumpectomy, it seems like they always do rads.  You don't know what else could be lurking in your breast,, because most cases of Paget's have something underlying in there. Like I had DCIS. Perhaps you should print off a few articles and take them along to your appt?  In the bag for your op tomorrow.

    Momnorth:  glad you are seeing a breast specialist. Why can't they analyze your breast discharge? That makes no sense.  My BS tried to squeeze out discharge on me, (no luck) but it would have been looked at if he could have. Hopefully your specialist will order a biopsy.  And there are a lot of doctors who want to calm the patient by saying "oh it looks like nothing. Nothing to worry about".  Well, I'd rather have the truth than platitudes.  Two doctors told me "oh i'm sure it's not Paget's"  and it was. Dang it,, you can't tell by looking at it. My mammo and ultrasound and MRI were all clear too.   Hope you get your appt quickly. Keep us posted.

  • lou23
    lou23 Member Posts: 149
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    well I did as you advised Glennie and they have changed my op to a masectomy, I am having it next thursday, and I feel a lot happier.

  • KarenZ0305
    KarenZ0305 Member Posts: 345
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    Hi ladies. I've been experiencing itching on my left nipple for a couple of months know to the point where I've scratched myself raw. Creams don't help. However I don't have any leaking or blisters. My question is do you have to have other symptoms besides the itching for it to be pagets?

  • lou23
    lou23 Member Posts: 149
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    Hi mine started with itching but I think that occurs with other skin problems also. The best way to find out is a biopsy if you are worried, mammograms and Ultra sound dosent seem to diagnose pagets. I hope all goes well for you.

  • tabi9
    tabi9 Member Posts: 1
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    Hello,

    My right nipple has very itchy patches on the edges of the areola which can get very red, weepy and raw. I can't wear a bra without nipple covers due to the weeping & sensitivity in that area and it's been getting very uncomfortable to sleep on my right side. This has been going on for about 4-5 years or so from what I can remember - I'm only 19 years old! I've been prescribed steroid creams and antifungal creams through the years to try and clear up the patches, due to already having eczema issues. I even moisturise 1-2 times a day with the right kinds of moisturisers to not make the 'eczema' flair up. The patches seem to improve, though not really in line with when I've been using the creams, but always reappear and yet only really on that side and in a similar place.

    Reading up on Paget's disease, I know it's super unlikely for my age, while at the same time it'd explain my issues and why they have persisted. It's a scary thing to think about and my anxiety levels have shot through the roof, though reading other people's stories have provided some comfort. Following shooting pains in my right breast and other twinges, as well as this flaring up again, I've made an appointment with my GP. Hopefully I can explain the situation and try and push for further checks, specifically a biopsy to put my mind at rest.

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,831
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    In the bag for you, Lou,  glad you are feeling better about the operation.

    Tabi:  yowza! Nineteen. I do think it is unlikely for your age also, but perhaps having a biopsy could give you a definite diagnosis. Not necessarily Paget's,, but psoriasis?? Or some other type of skin issue? It is strange that it is always in the same place.  Wishing you all the best. Keep us posted.

    KarenZ:  I had other symptoms, but if you are concerned, I say get it checked out.

  • Pirina
    Pirina Member Posts: 18
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    Hello everybody, I went for my mammo and ultrasound today. They couldn't do the mri because my doctor wrote the referral wrong. The rad tech could feel the lumps but they wouldn't come up on the mammo or the ultrasound. Weird. The implants were in the way. So the rad doc came in and tried. He was so funny. He told me that it's time to get the implants out so that I can start feeling better. Then he says, you've had your fun with them, it's time they go. So anyway I need the mri. But my insurance won't cover it. Oh well. They are going to charge me less than half for paying cash. So all of this anxiety and waiting for nothing so far. It was a great feeling though tactically have a doctor believe that the implants are causing the fibromyalgia like symptoms. Most will never acknowledge that bit of truth. Neither of the two docs I've seen seem a bit worried about me having pagets though. This seems to be the case from what I've read from everybody else.

  • glennie19
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    Boooo on the insurance company not paying for the MRI.  Are you planning to get the implants removed?

  • HoneyBeeM
    HoneyBeeM Member Posts: 1
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    Hi Everyone,

    I've been reading through this board, and am hoping someone might recognize some of the symptoms I've been experiencing. I'm 28 and have had an issue with an itchy right nipple for about three months now. Some days it is itchier than others, but the nipple itself is always super sensitive to the touch (sorry for the super-detailed descriptions here!). This nipple has always had a crack in the center and a small piece of skin sticking out of it. I feel like that is now the source of the itching, but am totally guessing. I've also had an achy feeling in the side of the right breast and in my armpit that comes and goes. The ache almost seems hormonal to me - flaring up right before my periods and then calming down again.

    I visited my gyno in March about the nipple itch and she sent me for a mamma/ultrasound. She said that it didn't look like Paget's or IBC because the breast/nipple were totally similar to my left side. No lumps either. It's still that way…no noticeable changes. The radiology place only did an ultrasound and found nothing suspicious. They focused the little ultrasound tool on the nipple for a while and still didn't see anything.

    Anyway, I told my gyno that it's continued to itch for another month, and she wants to see me again. I've been putting hydrocortisone on it, but it doesn't seem to do anything.

    Just wondering if my symptoms flip a light bulb switch for someone. Anyone experience something similar? My Mom swears she had an itchy nipple when she was younger, but said it eventually went away. No history of BC in my family.

  • lou23
    lou23 Member Posts: 149
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    Hi I have Pagets and it never showed up on mamagram or ultra sound, I had no lunp, my nipple was not cracked it was red and shinney and very itchy.I was diagnosed after having a punch biopsy, If your worried I would ask your gyno to take a biopsy, Pagets is a rare bc so try not to worry, hope all goes well.

  • lou23
    lou23 Member Posts: 149
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    My pre op today and been told I have to go to the nuclear medical centre for a nuclear injection. Now that's something new to me, feeling a bit apprehensive. Think it's used to trace to my lymph nodes during operation. Has any one else had this?

  • Pirina
    Pirina Member Posts: 18
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    Yes I'm getting the implants removed as soon as possible. The problem is finding a doctor who knows how to remove them properly and take everything out as in total capsulectomy. The closest one I can find is 8 hours away and I'll have to stay down there for 12 days. Yikes. My doc got the report back from the rad doc and it basically said that I have dense breast tissue, the 2 lumps he felt manually were due to the implants and to follow up with another mammo in a year. He didn't even address the lump that he couldn't feel or see due to the implants. I was shocked. So my regular doc ordered the mri. The 3rd lump isn't near my areola like the other two. It's near my chest wall. I can feel it when the implant is out of the way. In turns out that my insurance would most likely pay for the mri if he had written a proper report. That there was a lump that couldn't be seen other than with an mri. Is it normal for rad docs to be so nonchalant about this type of stuff or am I overreacting? With dense breast tissue and a lump that the rad doc couldn't get a look at I'd think he'd be a little more concerned. Pagets doesn't even seem to be a concern to anybody but me either. I'm feeling medically neglected. Just for the record I'm no sort of hypochondriac. In fact I recently received a letter from my insurance company telling me that it had been 3 years sinse I saw a doctor and to stay healthy they were requesting that I see my doctor. So I'm not the type to run off to the doctor for every little thing. I'm feeling very discouraged about this whole situation. Could somebody please tell me if what the rad doc is recommending is correct or if I'm overreacting?

  • Pirina
    Pirina Member Posts: 18
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    I also want to say that it seems that if there's no family history of BC then they seem to treat everything differently. Having family history can make the difference in whether insurance will pay for certain procedures or not. Lack of family history seems to make the docs not take symptoms very seriously. Never mind the fact that 80% of women with breast cancer have no family history. It almost makes me wish I'd have lied on my questionnaire and told them that everybody in my family hashad it so they'd take me serious.

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,831
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    lou, yes, they use a radioactive tracer dye to look for the sentinel node. Standard procedure.  Wishing you all the best!!

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,831
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    Pirina:  i would get the MRI !! Get the doctor to write a proper report.

  • ComeLordJesus
    ComeLordJesus Member Posts: 2
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    Hi All! I am really scared! I was diagnosed with Pagets today of my right nipple. It was discovered through a punch biopsy.There was no other "visible signs" of breast cancer that came up in the mri etc.. My mother, sister and grandmother all had breast cancer. My surgeon is recommending a macectomy! She thinks I should have a double! She said if it were her she would given my family history. I do not know if I should opt to go that or get the nipple removed w. radiation? What about the other breast though? She suggested I can get a second opinion which I think is smart. She also recommended genetic counceling which I am doing. This is such a huge decision and I would appreciate any input. Thanks and God Bless you all! xox

  • moderators
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    ComeLordJesus, We are all here for you. It sounds like you have a good plan with genetic testing and a second opinion. Please keep us all posted.


  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,831
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    I think getting the genetic testing is an excellent idea. Do you know what types of BC your family members had? It's a good idea to get a 2nd opinion too. You want to know what all of your options are before you make a decision. Generally with Paget's, it is either lumpectomy w/rads or mastectomy. Paget's is not usually the "only" type found in your breast. There is often another type at the same type. For me, it was DCIS. I would suggest that you read the articles on this site about Paget's so you will know more about it and about your options before you see your 2nd opinion doctor. Best of luck to you.

  • ComeLordJesus
    ComeLordJesus Member Posts: 2
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    Thank you Moderators and Glennie19. I am happy that I am posting on here. I am going to inquire about the kinds of BC my family members had, that is a very good point glennie! I appreciate the encouragement and kind words. I have my second opinion appointment tomorrow and I will keep you posted. Praying for all of you xo

  • KarenZ0305
    KarenZ0305 Member Posts: 345
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    Hi. I'm hoping someone can answer this question. I know that pagets is really only confirmed by a biopsy but I'm wondering if anybody had your bloodwork come back abnormal before having the biopsy done. I'm not due for my next appointment until the end of June and it's just racking my brains I've convinced myself that I have this and I'm just trying to keep good thoughts. My BW has been fine since treatment. So if that's not a factor in DX I'd like to know.


    Thanks

    Karen

  • lou23
    lou23 Member Posts: 149
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    Hi Karen, mine never showed up in blood tests. It never showed up on mammograms nor ultra sound nor MRI scan. Can you not bring your appointment forward? You really need a biopsy to put your mind at rest.

    Good luck Lou.

  • KarenZ0305
    KarenZ0305 Member Posts: 345
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    thanks Lou. I'm sure I'm overreacting but I will try and move it up.

  • CCSS89
    CCSS89 Member Posts: 3
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    Just wanted to thank you all for your posts. There's so little information on Paget's online so it's been comforting to read about your experiences. I had a punch biopsy done last week after a diagnostic mammogram the week before. Mammogram showed thickened skin on areola only. Waiting for the results. I'm in my mid 20s and my mom died of bc in her mid 30s. If nothing else, this experience is forcing me to take my risk level more seriously. Prayers to you all

  • moderators
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    And thanks for sharing your experience as well CCSS89. Please do keep us posted on the results.


  • KarenZ0305
    KarenZ0305 Member Posts: 345
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    CCSS89 - I will keep good thoughts for you as well. I've had the itchy nipple problem for a few months and am moving my MO appt up a few weeks. I am insisting on the biopsy. I learned with my DX that no gut feeling should be ignored. I hope yours turns out to be nothing.

    Karen