Can we have a forum for "older" people with bc?
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Hi Suzanne! Welcome! I know what you mean about going to the Dentist! Man, I don't go anymore unless I have to..... I have an upper plate, and the lower 8 teeth are hanging on for dear life! I had them fixed and some crowned, and so far, I don't have to have lower dentures.
My teeth were always bad, it seems like.... And I only had enough room in my mouth for 12 on the top, and 12 on the lower 1/2. So 24 teeth instead of 36. I never had pretty teeth, until I had the last 8 teeth pulled from the top, and a pretty denture was put in!
A gal I worked with once told me.... "You are such a pretty girl, but your teeth are so ugly"...... So it was right after that, that I decided why hang onto them, and I had the last upper 8 pulled, and a new denture put in right away. This was maybe 1975.... And they are still pretty!
We have a few birds building nests in our Colo. Blue Spruce also! But at least not making anything else a mess.... Ha!
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Here are some Snow Goose photos
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Puff, they are gorgeous birds. I really would have loved to see them -- swoosh in and land -- if swoosh is a word. I might have been thinking about the sound made. Anyway, it must have been a really stimulating time --- to see so many. Listen to them talk to each other --- and I'd be trying to figure out just which one gives the signal for them all to rise up -- fly around and then land again. I mean --- someone is in charge, right !!!
So glad you showed us a picture.
Jackie
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puffin, great photo! Shuf (live, laugh and love)
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Thank you for the welcome Chevyboy! I made it back from the dentist. Most of the time it is not nearly as bad as I am thinking it will be. Today was not that case. First, we weren't even sure if it was an abscessed tooth as when he tapped on them last week (I was in terrible pain) they did not hurt. The pain was more in the roof of my mouth. Weird. But today he drilled and I felt it. He stopped, gave me another shot, drilled I felt it! Said he was going to try something different. I hate it when they say that. He then said tell me as soon as you feel your heart race. WHAT? I didn't feel anything after that pain med whatever it was but I hated that drill and every time he used it I was tense waiting for the drill. I go back in a mouth for the rest of the procedure. CAN"T WAIT!!
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Wow !!! Suzannecarol -- so glad that is over for today. 
Lets see, a green gooseberry would be easier to chomp into though than that dreaded drill I think. Well, as I mentioned.....I have a strong distaste for dental visits. The last teeth I had pulled though --- the dentist asked me if he could put a towel over my eyes -- yeah, ok, whatever, lets just get this horror over with. Amazingly, I was much more calm -- why ???? I have no idea, and while I still didn't like what was going on ( at least no drill sounds ) I could relax sort of in ways that I could not before. I still held on to the chair arms but not quite with all my might. I was anxious, but lost track of time so that it seemed less ENDLESS. A few years later when I again needed an extraction, the Dr. had apparently given up using the towel on people. I actually asked him if he would use for me and he did. I'm not sure if I could do well anymore unless the dentist --- any dentist -- gave me that security blanket towel.
Anyway -- glad you can think about other things for a whole month -- maybe some good ole' cancer stuff, eh !!!! Ok, that was a bad joke. Think about the Spring renewal starting to go on outside. This is I think my favorite season -- when the Earth ( or at least my little part of it ) gets to start out fresh and new all over after the winter rest. It fills me with hope and inspiration -- so I tend to want to open up and start over. I don't make New Yr.'s Resolutions, I make ones for Spring.
That is when I feel new too and energetic and more able and just so ager to make things, anything, better in some way. To make like for me and everyone else just a bit better. Well, that's my story and I'm sticking to it as they say. Happy beginning of Spring, ya 'all.Jackie
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That scene in the picture is awesome, Puffin. Thanks for posting it.
It got up to 80 degrees today and was humid. The sweat was rolling down me as I did housecleaning so I closed the doors and windows and turned on the A/C.
Hi to everyone.
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Morning gals! Suzanne, YAY! You survived, Ha!
That reminds me of our youngest Daughter... She had a tooth coming out in the roof of her mouth! It was "close" to the front, but definately not where it was supposed to be..... at all!
So they had to wait awhile, until it came through a little MORE, and then they could pull it. It was me that had the 2 "tusks" above the rest of my teeth... The Dentist pulled the two in back, put these "bands" on the two "tusks" and they were pulled back in place... When I THINK about it, I must have been a dud.... Hah! The Dentist would always give me a 50 cent piece every time he saw me.... Probably thought, "that poor kid"....
Jackie, I was never afraid of the Dentists I had... mostly because I was always there... Ha! When I had the last 8 upper teeth pulled, I thought he would put his knee in my chest to keep me in the chair while he yanked! I was afraid of that "pressure".... and he packed my gums with antibiotic, so THAT time I didn't get "dry sockets"....
If you've ever had one of THEM, you will always remember THAT pain!
Our older neighbors Theresa and Eddie, STILL went for their annual check-up! He is 93, she is 90... They both have all their teeth. AND she had to have an expensive root-canal on one of her TEETH last year! They were talking about pulling it, and paying for a PERMANENT tooth! An implant!
But I couldn't figure out WHY at THAT age, go through all that pain, not to mention paying for and putting the equivalent of a new house, in your MOUTH!
On of my gal friends, who is even OLDer than I am, is the same way... Her teeth are all hers, but they are dis-colored, and her gums are giving up the ghost, but she will spend THOUSANDS to hang onto those teeth!
I would rather spend my money on another stylish pair of Crocs!
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Nature has given to each conscious being every power she possesses, and one of these abilities is this: just as Nature converts and alters every obstacle and opposition, and fits them into their predestined place, making them a part of herself, so too the rational person is able to finesse every obstacle into an opportunity, and to use it for whatever purpose it may suit. -Marcus Aurelius
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So true Jackie. Want to hear my silver lining about my cancer? Each time I heard someone I knew had cancer I couldn't help but wonder if I would get it someday. Well, I don't have to wonder and worry anymore. It is here and I will deal with it.
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Chevyboy and Jackie, Thanks for your posts! I feel like such a big chicken that it is nice when someone understands and makes me feel like I am not the idiot I felt like.
I have made it through the night without pain so maybe that was the tooth that was causing all the problems. Today is a beautiful, sunny day. I am going to enjoy it!! This cancer has taught me to appreciate each hour that I feel good.0 -
Good for you Suzanne! Some days we WILL have pain.... and some days more than others.... but if we can get up and work through it, it helps. If you can "fix" it like I do, with 2 aleve, and then go on with what you are doing, it helps.
It also gets your mind off of "it." Cancer will take over your mind like a big dark cloud.... the thought of it just hangs over your head....
But pretty soon.... maybe like a year, you will look back and think .... " I DID it!" THAT part is done, now maybe I can get on with my life."
Don't hang around with rigid people.... People that don't know what is going on, but like to think they can "help" you.... Or those with their own opinions as to what you SHOULD be doing... WE will tell you what you should be doing! Hah! Just kidding....
I say go out... go for walks... do something that makes YOU happy.... and drink chocolate cokes. And don't believe everything you hear or read....
Except on here.... WE are the only people you should talk to.....
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Ahhhhh... chocolate cokes. Almost forgot about them! As a child, it was a treat when our parents took us to the soda fountain for a chocolate or cherry coke. Yum.
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Oh Hi Jilly! Sorry, I forgot to welcome you! Yes.... chocolate cokes at all the drive in's...Ha! You can make them yourself!
Welcome to our little corner of the world!
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Chevyboy- Thanks! Just hanging out, reading everyone's posts...kind of like my Reminisce magazine. I used Vick's on my kids with a washcloth. When I mention those things to my grown kids, it's BAD BAD BAD. I always did what my mom did. Not so much that way anymore. Bumper pads BAD. Cereal before age one BAD. Peanut butter, strawberries BAD. To the younger generation (for the most part) everything we did was bad, at least that's the way it seems to me. Sigh.
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jilly59 welcome. Your right what we did in the olden days don't make sense to modern day fixes. My daughter asked me to bring a head of cabbage to her right after she gave birth with the last GD. The cabbage was suppose to be used on her B to dry her milk. I laughed so hard I had an accident.
Shuf (live, laugh and love)
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Who remembers?
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watching the PBS 3 night program on cancer, tonight's is mostly the history of BC treatment. Very interesting!
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Welcome to Suzanne and Jilly. I think you'll like this energetic group!
We are in Prattvillle, Alabama and on our way home. I am quite a mess. It started out with chapped lips from the wind and sun and has turned into a mass of fever blisters/ cold sores around my mouth. I have tried everything, even rubbing cucumbers on them and cold tea bags, as well as a variety of over the counter ointments and cold sore meds. They just keep spreading. Guess I wil give it a few days when I get home and if it's not better, I'll have to get into the doctor and see if she has anything stronger to help me out. I imagine they got chapped initially from riding in the boat on the gulf. I did wear sunscreen lip balm the entire time I was down there but I've also been prone to cold sore throughout the years. It has been many years since I've had any like this. OUCH!
I'd love to have one of those chocolate cokes right now, Chevy! That was always our treat on Saturday night. My parents went into a small town near us to get the groceries for the week and my friends and I walked the sidewalks on Main Street while they were shopping. Then we stopped at a little soda shop for a Chocolate coke.
Well, I need to pack up the computer and get some sleep. I didn't sleep very well last night.
Hope that everyone had a great day!
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bonnets, I watched it also...very good but sad to think of all that have lost their lives.
Shuf (live, laugh and love)
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jilly, You wonder how our kids survived with us doing everything wrong!
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Wren - I have to laugh about how we survived? No bike helmets, riding in the back of trucks, metal roller skates on uneven pavement, eating hot dogs w/red dye #7, and on & on.
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You're so right. I used to ride in the front seat between my parents, sitting on a special cushion. Mom would put her arm out if we stopped suddenly. Once I learned to read, I liked to sit in the back seat and do that. Never made me carsick.
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Hi all,
I have not been around in over a week...just busy at work and then helping DD move out of her home this week end.
She's out, her DH got an apartment, and today they sold their big family home ... then DD closed on her own next home. We self-packed their 10 years of life for 3 days straight with little sleep. I was amazed at what I was able to do....up and down stairs, lifting, pushing forward to get it done. They literally could not have done it alone. They are now unofficially separated...it was a very draining week end but everyone got along, even the in-laws, and the kids held up well.I made a few memories with my granddaughters, as we hiked up the big rock behind their house for the last time. The 7 year old was sad but we had so much fun and laughed so much that we got through. We sat on a bench at the top and watched the sun dropping in the sky; we built a stick teepee; we followed wild animal tracks in the snow, and then we climbed even higher to watch the sun set again. We took a lot of selfies to remember our adventure. They are so precious, and I am glad I could be with them during this time of uncertainty and transition. I know I shared with you exactly a year ago that my DD would be seeking divorce.
We live 5 hours apart, but I will see them all for Easter at my house for a few hours.Welcome to all the new ladies here. It is a good place to share feelings, fears, and concerns, or to just talk about wonderfully normal everyday things. It is true that each of us has a unique treatment and response to treatment. My lumpectomy resulted in an easy recovery, and treatments were not difficult. I worked through it all, but was very tired after. I have taken the A.I. pill for over 3 years now. Life seems normal...and that is good.
I had an onco-type score of 13 and my MO told me it was considered intermediate and that chemo was my decision. It did not sound right to me. I felt that she had the years of medical school and experience, so why was she leaving it up to me? I got 2nd opinions and made a decision to not do chemo.
Di, I hope you are feeling better after your reconstruction procedure. I hope that is the last you have to endure.
Sandra, I hope you have an uneventful wonderful trip to the wedding. That is a great story!
Jackie, thank you for being here each day even when we are quiet.
It's late, and I have to work. It is spring break but I have to go in for other responsibilities besides classes.
Wishing you all a wonderful day/week and holiday for those who celebrate Passover or Easter.
There was the first touch of spring in the air today.0 -
Morning gals!
Okay Rita! I had heard that cold-sores, (fever blisters) are like a virus! And WE were told once that you have to eat a can of black-olives... I mean the WHOLE can!
Didn't work for my Daughter..... either....
! I think they just have to run their course... or can you buy some tube of something at the store to put on there? I think we did that too!Some people get cold sores, and some people don't...Like our other Daughter used to get those "herpe's" spots on her lips...
Okay, never mind... You already tried that store bought stuff... Did you ask Dr. Google? Ha!
That's funny Shuf! I remember trying to dry my milk after my youngest one. And I tied those old long diapers around my chest, for something tight... MAN they hurt! They probably just have a pill now?
Jilly, My Mom, and then I used to get that Reminisce magazine! It was the best! I would use VICKS for everything, just like my Grandma did... I STILL mix it with the generic of Desitin, and Vit. D ointment to make this cream for my chapped hands... also added cortisone ointment. IT WORKS!
Yes, I used Bumper Pads in the little Bassinets... Haaaah! It's a wonder I didn't accidentally kill my kids!
But what's wrong with Peanut butter & STRAWBERRIES?
Shuf! Wait.....! Maybe you were supposed to slice and then cook the cabbage before you brought it? And something IN it would help her problem? Maybe she was supposed to stuff it in her bra! That's IT!
Minus! Yes! That's all so funny, when you think of it now!
Wren, I STILL do that with either my Daughters (who are in their 50's) or my Husband.... Haaaaaaaaah! My right arm just goes out, like one of those train-crossing 2X4's when I have to stop! I should install warning lights on it, maybe?
Welcome "home" Joan! Sounds like you had a lot to do and think about. Isn't it amazing how when you have to do something like that, something inside you just kicks in, and takes over, and you get through it?
So hard on everybody.... I know. Glad you were with them, to help out during that hard time ............. My Brother and I did this... right after Dad passed away.... Had to pack up our folks house..... and all the memories, and .... it was just tough.
Then put their house up for sale, and drive back to the San Francisco airport, leaving with only the memories of our folks. I don't know how we GO through things like that....
Yeah, I know.... a lot of faith, and prayers and leaning on each other.
My onco-type score was 19.... not as low as yours, but I just didn't want to do chemo, at my age... Seems like it was the right choice... also!
This is Wednesday.... April FIRST? We might be getting "fooled" by someone today! Take good care gals.....
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Today marks 20 years we've been without our dad. He's still very much missed. I need to buy a bouquet and take it to my mother today.
Rita, you probably have the same herpes that I have. There is a medication your dr. can prescribe that helps with the fever blisters. You take two pills twice a day for 2 days when the fever blister starts to form. I keep the med on hand. I have trouble with sores between my nose and lips when I have a runny nose from hay fever.
According to the weather man, it's in the 60's this morning, but we ran the a/c last night. We turn the thermostat down to 68.
Joan, that's sad for a family to break up. It happens so much. Sounds like you made the most of things and had some great times with your grandchildren. They're learning to deal with life very young.
Hi to everyone and a special hi to Cammi and Blondie, who haven't checked in lately.
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Joan811- anyone with an Oncotype score of 18 and under is considered low...no chemo for you per guidelines.
Chevyboy, I too had an Oncotype of 19. We are considered low-intermediate. There is an ongoing study for this low-intermediate group to see if chemo would benefit. They told me with a score of 19 chemo would add 3.5% benefit over 10 years (that's assuming you're on hormonal therapy). I said the chemo risk outweighed the 3.5 % benefit and they agreed.
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Good Morning Ladies, I am enjoying this message board so much. I like reading all the things you all are posting. I am waiting for my oncotype test score. My BS said yesterday at my visit that if low no radiation, medium, maybe with estrogen pill, high probably rads with pill. He did not mention chemo. Sort of confusing the way all doctors have different opinions and we depend on them for our lives but I always weigh everything, research as much as I can and then decide. I am not swayed easily. I will say when I am in the doctors office I forget to ask him things. Yesterday he said he found 2 tumors in right breast, both around 0.3 cm. When I had the mammogram she showed me the calcifications and there were more than 2. Of course I did not think to ask him about the others until I got home. I thought of calling his office. I may.
I am going to my senior citizen center today for our art lessons. I love them. I just started going a few months ago and it is a bright spot in the week. I love being around people my age. The first few times some of the conversations I heard were, oh my memory is gone, can't remember how to pronounce words sometimes, I get tired more now, and on and on and I thought oh I am at home!!! LOL
I hope you all find a bright spot in your day today!
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Hi Suzanne! I think they take your age into consideration when determining treatment. If your oncotype is anything but high, I think they assume you will pass away from natural causes first, bc not being one of them.
That's my wish - to pass with something OTHER than breast cancer.
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I know.... me too! Age has a lot to do with it, along with your final path report..... SOMEtimes chemo is the only answer, but you have to weigh all of the probabilities.... I sound like I know what I am talking about.... but I usually don't...
But for ME, I made the right choice.... considering the stage, grade, and my age.... and I'm over 5 years out. I was on Tamoxifen for 1 1/2 years.... THAT is another story, but everyone is different.0
