Unilateral or Bilateral Mastectomy - Pros & Cons for ILC
Hi, I learned on April 12th that both biopsies taken from my left breast on March 26th have ILC. The MRI showed at least three more (Stage 1a). They are all very small, but given there are now at least five, the surgeon's recommendation is unilateral mastectomy. I am about 95% certain I'd like to just go for the bilateral, as the stress of the call backs and biopsies in the future is not worth it in my mind, but I'm curious as to what others might say about that. Especially with the ILC diagnosis which doesn't show up on mammograms so well, any tech I get will be concerned so I'm likely to get extra call backs as a result. And though I know it's a "personal" decision, hearing from others about how they made the choice would be helpful to me at this time.
Also, I'm meeting with the plastic surgeon next week to find out if I am a candidate to have reconstruction (not implants). I'm entertaining this because it can now be done all at once, but I'm concerned about a few things and would love to hear of anyone's experience with reconstruction with your own flesh (good or bad), or going flat (good or bad).
I'm trying to not yet worry about what treatment might look like post-op. Just one step at a time, and the decision about which surgery route to take is now the only one I need to make to get to my 'surgery date'. A 1-2hr surgery vs. a 10-12hr surgery feels like a big enough decision for now. When I have that I think it will help with the anxiety due to the inability to plan my life as I have always done. Thanks in advance for taking my poll:
Unilateral or Bilateral
Reconstruction (with flesh) or Flat
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Hi @karstock, and welcome!
Honestly, we think this is one of those decisions where everyone’s “right answer” can look completely different. 💗 There are just so many personal factors wrapped up in it: ILC, peace of mind, recovery, body image, future screening anxiety, lifestyle, age, support at home, and simply what feels emotionally manageable to you.We’ve seen women choose bilateral because they knew the constant scans, callbacks, and biopsies would take too much of a toll emotionally, especially with ILC being so sneaky on imaging sometimes. And we’ve also seen others choose unilateral because they wanted the least extensive surgery possible and felt very at peace with that choice too.
Same with reconstruction versus going flat. Some women feel incredibly grateful they did DIEP/flap reconstruction and love their results. Others feel equally grateful they stayed flat and avoided the very long surgery and recovery. Neither path is “better”, just different.
And honestly, a 1–2 hour surgery versus a 10–12 hour surgery is a huge thing to process. It makes so much sense that you’re trying to take this one step at a time instead of thinking ten decisions ahead right now.
We really believe whatever choice helps you feel the most peace in your own body and your own life is the right one for you. Sending you lots of love as you sort through all of this. 💕 Hoping others chime in!
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Hi @karstock
I'malso going through ILC. Stage 2, 4cm on the left side, mass that extends pretty far. Longest chain close to 6cm. I'm trying hormone therapy in the hope I can have BCS. Then I have radiation. What was your decision? I'm very overwhelmed with the whole reconstruction process. I know i want it, just not sure which one. Love to hear how you're doing.
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Hi Karstock,
Have you made a decision or had your surgery yet? I was diagnosed in April as well, after receiving an ominous mammogram report on April 1st.
To your point about the difficulty of identifying ILC, my initial 3-D mammogram found only a single "irregularity" and some shadowing. It turned out I actually had four tumors.
All of my tumors were in my right breast. Each was less than 2 cm, but they were located in two different quadrants, making my disease multicentric. They were Grade 2, Stage IA, ER/PR-positive, and HER2-negative. I have no known genetic risk factors, but I do have dense breast tissue, and I started my period at age 10 and still have a monthly cycle at 55.
None of my medical team recommended a double mastectomy, although they agreed it was a reasonable option. Ultimately, when my oncologist explained that he wanted to monitor me with Signatera blood testing every six months, it eased a lot of my concern about missing a recurrence in my left breast or elsewhere. I'd be happy to share more about that test if you're interested.
My surgery was June 5th. My breast surgeon performed a skin-sparing, nipple-sparing mastectomy with clean margins and was able to preserve three sensory nerves. My plastic surgeon then performed three nerve neurotizations to reconnect those nerves, giving both my skin and nipple a good chance of regaining sensation. He also performed immediate implant reconstruction (an implant was the only option available to me at that time so that was a decision I just had to accept), so I was able to avoid a tissue expander.
The surgery lasted about six hours, and I'm still fairly limited in my physical activity and right arm movement because of the nerve reconstruction. In addition to the twice-yearly Signatera testing, I'm working with my oncologist to determine the best surveillance plan for my left breast. I also recently started Tamoxifen.
For me, focusing treatment on my affected breast was the right decision. While removing the cancer was always the priority, I also wanted to preserve my sense of self as much as possible. Concentrating all of the surgery, recovery, and healing on one side gave me the best opportunity for the outcome I hoped for. It also made recovery much more manageable, since I still had one arm with full function and could maintain a greater degree of independence while healing. I don't think there is ever a right or wrong answer through much of this process—only decisions we make peace with so we can move forward with as much hope and confidence as possible.
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Hello @tacocat and @kayakcamping,
I honestly didn't think anyone was going to see my post let alone reply to it, so thank you to you both, and yes, I did make my decision and had surgery on June 24th.
I surprised myself a bit, and opted to just focus treatment on the affected breast. In the end I opted for the unilateral skin-sparing mastectomy w/ sentinal lymph node biopsy (surgical oncologist) and immediate diep-flap reconstruction (plastic surgeon). I thought when I wrote my original post I'd just be happy to go flat and opt for bilateral, and "wash my hands of it". But I guess the time and the consults changed that. Also the confirmation that I'm not genetically predisposed helped inform my decision. To me, it was amazing to think that I could still have a breast of my own flesh that would grow old with me. And even though my daughter is 15 she still snuggles in when we're watching a movie, so that was another reason. I also thought that among all the things that would be different, one bit of stability I could provide was that I would still fit in my clothes and even though I would have a lot of stitches, none of that would be visible once I dressed each day.
My surgery also lasted about 6hrs, I was in hospital for 4 days and the first 24 hours required hourly checks to ensure the blood vessels were connecting well. I have my first follow up with the plastic surgeon in 2 days time. I think I am healing well, but am still early in the recovery stage, and trying to be patient with the pain and swelling.
I won't be meeting with the oncologist until July 23rd, so I'm trying not to worry about the pathology results until we have them in hand. To that end though I am curious about the Signatera, so thank you for more information on that when you are able.
And @tacocat I'm not familiar with the acronym BCS… I hope the hormone therapy proves successful for you though.
And @kayakcamping agreed, I'm grateful, that I decided to focus on the affected breast, and have the one hand/arm fully functional. It is helping with the recovery state-of-mind.
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@karstock We are on a very similar timeline. I just had my first follow-up with oncology last week. My Oncotype DX recurrence score came back as a 15, so I will be moving forward without chemotherapy or radiation, which I am incredibly grateful for. I just started Tamoxifen, so I know I may have to work through some side effects as my body adjusts to that treatment, but I am hopeful that I will tolerate the medicine well enough.
We all heal differently, and you certainly have more to recover from with the DIEP procedure, but I found that week four was a significant improvement over the first three weeks. I'm sleeping through the night again—still in a recliner, because I notice more swelling if I sleep in my bed—but I have much more energy now, and the pain has largely been replaced by discomfort.
My surgical drains were responsible for most of my pain and discomfort, so having them removed during week three felt like a major milestone. I also found that the trauma from lymph node removal improved substantially between weeks 3 and 4. I hope your pain and swelling start to improve quickly over the next week. And I also hope your daughter is managing all of this as well as possible. I know it has been hard on my girls and they are 21 and 23.
Here are the details on Signatera that I put together for my family. I also have a PDF that explains it well, but I'm not sure if there's a good way to share documents here.
My first blood draw was this week, so I'm still learning about the process myself, but I'm excited about what appears to be a very non-invasive way to monitor for recurrence.
Signatera is a highly personalized blood test that looks for circulating tumor DNA (ctDNA) in your bloodstream. Rather than looking for cancer cells themselves, it searches for tiny fragments of DNA released by cancer cells.
Its goal is to detect molecular residual disease (MRD)—microscopic amounts of cancer that may remain after surgery but are far too small to be detected by CT scans, MRIs, mammograms, or PET scans.
The test is custom-built specifically for each individual. The laboratory sequences DNA from your removed tumor and compares it with your normal DNA. They identify the mutations unique to your cancer and then create a personalized blood test that looks only for those mutations in future blood samples.
I think of it as creating a fingerprint of my cancer and then checking my blood every six months to see if that fingerprint ever reappears.
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@tacocat I think BCS stands for breast-conserving surgery.
That wasn't an option for me because my tumors were multicentric, so I had to make peace with a mastectomy right from the beginning.
I won't lie—even with the skin- and nipple-sparing aspects of my surgery, I still struggle emotionally some days. I'm slowly processing everything and finding acceptance, but it definitely hasn't happened overnight.
If it would be helpful, I'm happy to share more about my personal experience. Having one natural breast and one reconstructed breast with an implant is something I never imagined I would have to navigate, and it's been an adjustment in ways I didn't fully anticipate.
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Yes, BCS is breast conserving surgery.
I am struggling with whether to continue treatment or just go to surgery. My scan was not great yesterday and I see my med onc Friday. I am also trying to wrap my head around having 1 natural breast and 1 reconstructed. It's really helpful to hear from both of you and your experiences.
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Hi @tacocat
I absolutely understand your position, and in hindsight, I'm actually grateful that I didn't have a choice. Decision fatigue is very real with all of this.Here's what I can tell you about myself and my outcome four weeks after surgery. I know we all have different priorities, constraints, and perspectives, and ultimately each of us has our own unique experience. Still, if sharing my experience helps in any way, I'm happy to do so. And if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
I'm 55 and very active. I hike, kayak, camp, backpack, and rock climb. For about eight months of the year, I do most of those activities in a tank top or sports bra and quick-dry shorts. My breasts had aged better than most other parts of my body, and I've always been appreciative of that! I've been divorced since 2010 but have been in a solid long-distance relationship since before COVID. Physical intimacy is an important part of that relationship when we're together.
When I was told a mastectomy was my only option, I was devastated. I couldn't imagine what that was going to look like or how I was going to feel about losing something that had always been part of my identity. Would my clothes still fit? Would I have to change the way I dressed—moving from lightweight, unstructured bras to padded bras that hid the changes, or from V-necks to higher necklines? How was I going to redefine the way I saw myself? What was my boyfriend going to think? Would it change our intimacy? Would it affect his attraction to me? Would it ultimately affect our relationship? And how was I going to get through multiple surgeries and long recovery periods when so many of my normal coping mechanisms—being outdoors and staying active—would be off limits for weeks or months at a time?There were so many questions. So many worries. Those concerns never completely went away, but it didn't take long for me to decide that I needed to decide what my best possible outcome would look like and then determine what might be achievable. I literally made myself a "best-case scenario" list and started working with my medical team to see how much of it might be possible. At the very top of my list was removing the cancer from my body before it had a chance to spread. My mammogram with contrast and ultrasound both suggested my lymph nodes were clear, so I was hopeful we had caught it in time. Second was preserving my skin and nipple if it was medically safe to do so. Both of those turned out to be game-time decisions, and I wouldn't know the outcome until I woke up from surgery. Third was pursuing DIEP flap reconstruction for a long list of reasons. Fourth was accomplishing everything in a single surgery if possible, so I would only have one major recovery period instead of several. On my "wish list," I also included nerve neurotization. I'd read that it was becoming more common, and the possibility of regaining some sensation in my breast and nipple felt almost too good to hope for.
As things turned out, I found a plastic surgeon with extensive experience performing neurotization, which felt like an unexpected win right from the beginning. Unfortunately, during my initial consultation he explained that I wasn't a candidate for DIEP because I simply didn't have enough abdominal tissue to create a matching B cup. I was crushed. I actually sat in his office crying while he gently explained that I was an excellent candidate for immediate implant reconstruction and that he genuinely believed I would be very happy with the results. He also made sure I understood that insurance would cover any medically necessary revision surgery and even procedures on my left breast, if needed, to achieve better symmetry. He explained that if I later decided I wanted DIEP, I could gain weight first, or if I was happy with the implant overall but wanted to improve the contour, he could use fat grafting to soften and round out the upper portion of the reconstructed breast. I was still heartbroken, but once again the decision had essentially been made for me. There wasn't much left to do except accept it and move forward.
Now, four weeks later, I can honestly say my implant looks much better than I expected. Standing or sitting, the difference between my breasts is surprisingly subtle. With a bra on, it's even less noticeable. Lying flat on my back is where the differences are most obvious because the implant doesn't behave like natural breast tissue and I don't yet have the soft tissue around it that I once did. The implant is visibly more prominent when I'm lying flat on my back, and I honestly don't like the appearance at all. For now, though, I'm reminding myself that I'm only four weeks into recovery, and I'm giving everything time to settle before deciding whether it bothers me long term. As for how it feels...right now it honestly feels like I have a very tightly filled water balloon in my chest. My skin is still somewhat numb, which is a strange sensation in itself. My surgeon has reassured me that both the implant and the surrounding tissues will soften over time and continue to settle into a more natural look and feel. I am also expected to regain more sensation over time but nerves grow very slowly so that final outcome will take some time to achieve. At my three-week follow-up, my plastic surgeon showed me new photos alongside my preoperative pictures. Honestly, I thought my reconstructed breast looked great. He also pointed out something I had just started noticing myself: a slight lack of fullness along the upper part of the reconstructed breast compared to my natural side. He explained that if it continued to bother me after I was fully healed, it could be corrected fairly easily with a small amount of fat grafting. Perhaps the biggest surprise of all has been my boyfriend (mostly because I had been judging my new body so harshly and I guess I expected the same from him). He has been wonderful through this entire process. He was genuinely surprised by how similar my breasts look and wasn't bothered in the slightest by the differences he could see. And there was zero hesitation towards intimacy once I was feeling up to it.
Some days, I still struggle with how my reconstructed breast feels. The numb skin and the "water balloon" sensation are constant reminders that everything is still new. But emotionally, I'm in a much better place than I was before surgery. Every week, things look a little more natural, feel a little more normal, and become a little easier to accept. Looking back, I've realized I spent too much time worrying about the unknown. That doesn't mean the emotional adjustment isn't real—it absolutely is—but for me, the reality has been much kinder than my imagination came up with. One thing this experience has reinforced is that grief isn't a straight line. The stages of grief don't happen in order, and they don't happen just once. Lately, I do spend much of my time in acceptance, but I'm still regularly caught off guard by moments of shock, anger, and anxiety. Sometimes it's something as simple as pulling on a dress I haven't worn since before surgery or seeing a friend who knows what I've been through but hasn't seen me since the procedure. Those moments can unexpectedly remind me that my life has changed. Overall, though, I feel good about where I am. I'm only three months past my diagnosis and one month past surgery. I'm currently cancer-free, which is an incredible gift. At the same time, I'm still emotionally vulnerable and working hard to regain a sense of normalcy in my life. I don't expect that to happen overnight but I'm grateful that, with each passing week, life feels a little easier than it did the week before.
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I'm sorry that you didn't have a great scan yesterday @tacocat but hopefully you get some good direction from your oncologist in a few days.
I'm still in the early days of living with one natural and one reconstructed breast. It's a little weird, not going to lie. The reconstructed one is bigger and hopefully just with the swelling including additional swelling from the sentinel lymph node biopsy and the healing of the small wound left by the drain incision; all of which makes it feel a bit like my breast is in my armpit. It is hot, and heavy… literally because of the healing and the size. I'm only 2wks post-op, so I'm sure it will lessen on both counts, hopefully sooner rather than later but I realize that belly flesh and breast flesh are not the same, so I am expecting some differences for sure, it just might be a little to early for me to say.
All that aside, I'm amazed by the diep-flap procedure, and the science behind it was part of why I wanted to do it, and the other reasons previously mentioned. The fact that microscopically my surgeon could attach blood vessels from one part of my body to another is incredibly amazing. And I felt I was in the best possible hands considering how many of these surgeries are performed each year by him and the team.
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@kayakcamping Thank you for sharing more information about the Signatera process, that sounds fascinating, and I'll definitely ask my oncologist about it at my follow up. Thanks also for sharing your whole decision making process. Not only are our timelines so similar, our goals at the outset were very similar. And as information became available, and consults happened, some of the options had to move into the background, until ultimately a choice was made. I hope that I feel as good as you sound now in a couple of weeks, but more than that, I hope your new breast continues to feel more and more like you. And even if not, there is comfort in knowing you have a seemingly wonderful surgeon who is willing and able to help you get there.
@tacocat One other thing that was super helpful when I was having such a hard time weighing pros and cons, and sleepless nights feeling guilty about taking extra time to come to a decision when the main goal was always to just get the cancer out ASAP came from a friend who said she found this little switch in the word order helpful for her — " don't worry about what is the "right" decision, simply focus on making your decision "right"."
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