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  • moth
    moth Member Posts: 3,293
    edited September 2019

    Hi Lauren, welcome!
    I hope your news on Monday is good. Here for you either way. Heart

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 1,418
    edited September 2019

    LaurenInPHX,

    Welcome aboard. If you want to vent about politics with hardly a mention of religion, there is site that is sort of hidden away that you might enjoy. Here's a link. https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/84/topics...

    We all know what you're going through with waiting for results. I've had two recurrence scares. I think they were harder on me than the first biopsy that gave me my diagnosis. All I can say is when you feel things building, take a deep breath. It helps.

  • laureninphx
    laureninphx Member Posts: 138
    edited September 2019

    Thanks for the welcome Smile

    Ananda, that thread looks like somewhere I belong too. Should be as fun (as that topic can be)

    My biopsy is Wednesday (after a three week wait) results Monday, next step debunking surgery then new meds, likely Ibrance & something else. I’d love to be wrong, but with rising tumor markers and an MRI with “worrisome” neck nodes, I’m not going to get my hopes up. I’d rather be pleasantly surprised than blindsided.

    We shall see.

    Have a great week!

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 1,418
    edited September 2019

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  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 1,418
    edited September 2019

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    You have fortitude, for sure.

  • wren44
    wren44 Member Posts: 7,963
    edited September 2019

    Welcome LaureninPHX. No eye rolling needed here. Very glad you found us. The religious right is very frightening to me as well. No wonder Margaret Atwood's new book is a best seller.

  • everymoment
    everymoment Member Posts: 6,656
    edited September 2019

    I could be on a rant about religion and the rights of LGBTQ in Arizona. Same sex marriage is legal in AZ, however, the AZ supreme court ruled today that businesses do not have to serve same sex couples. Why must people who believe in some sort of god have to insert themselves into the lives of other people. I went to the web site of the company that refused the gay couple service, but did not see any indication on their site that says something like "we refuse to make invitation for same sex couples." Businesses routinely put up signs about no shirt no shoes no service, but I have yet to see any indication that indicate something like "our god says we can't serve gay people." 30% of Americans believe their religious beliefs give them the right to refuse service to LGBTQ people and nearly a quarter of Americans believe they have a right to refuse service to atheists! If you look at the research, it is obvious that their is hardly a segment of marginalized society that religious people do not feel compelled to discriminate against while talking about being 'blessed.'

    https://www.prri.org/research/increasing-support-f...

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 1,418
    edited September 2019

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    Back to the basics. :)


  • wanderweg
    wanderweg Member Posts: 487
    edited September 2019

    ananda - Love that! Especially since I have some very liberal friends who host a regular tac bight!

    Lauren - Welcome! Any news on the recurrence issue? I've got a brain CT Friday to rule out what I hope is just an incidental finding from a bone scan. We never get to just let it go, do we? But I am so with you on being beside myself with our bloody country. What the hell is wrong with us? I just can't believe that in spite of everything, the hard right is holding power.

  • laureninphx
    laureninphx Member Posts: 138
    edited September 2019

    Thanks wanderweg!  Biopsy is tomorrow...finally...after waiting three weeks, then results on Monday. If bad, then neck surgery next to remove nodes and new treatment. If good, I'll be cautiously optimistic about my scans in December, but this 5+week scare has been exhausting. 

    Best of luck with your CT Friday! And no, we really can't let anything go. It's a helluva way to live, but hey, better than the alternative. :)

    I'll be looking forward to your GOOD NEWS results. 

    As for the country, just when you think it can't get worse, now they want to reboot The Princess Bride. That's the true definition of blasphemy. ;)

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 1,418
    edited September 2019

    Not Princess Bride!

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  • alicebastable
    alicebastable Member Posts: 1,962
    edited September 2019

    NOOOOOO!!!! What beanbrain thinks they can improve on perfection?

  • miriandra
    miriandra Member Posts: 2,242
    edited September 2019

    I wish there were Like buttons. So many things needing ThumbsUp!!

    Best of luck, LaurenInPHX and wanderweg. I hope y'all get positive news. )))))good vibes(((((

  • miriandra
    miriandra Member Posts: 2,242
    edited September 2019

    Y'all ready for some good news? My oncotype came back in the 97.8% non-recurrence category. My lymph node was clean, so NO chemo and NO radiation recommended! I've started OT for getting my range of motion back after surgery, but I could be done for a good long while.

    I know others have a harder road to follow, and I wish us all the best of luck and care. But I hope we can celebrate the normal things too. :)

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 1,418
    edited September 2019

    Miriandra,,

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  • wren44
    wren44 Member Posts: 7,963
    edited September 2019

    Wonderful news! Give yourself a treat.

  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Member Posts: 8,178
    edited September 2019

    I can’t put this on Steam Room. All the “good” people wouldn’t understand. I guess it’s a rant.

    DH was raised Catholic. I converted, we both haven’t been in a church in years. Lately 2 of his brothers have found religion. Whatever, they are 1000 miles away. Apparently whatever flavor they’re subscribing to, has rubbed off on DH. That’s all he has on tv in his man cave.

    I can hear it. Clearly. I don’t want to, and don’t know how not to, short of ear plugs.

    Any suggestions?

  • alicebastable
    alicebastable Member Posts: 1,962
    edited September 2019

    Ooh, Spookiesmom, that's a tough one when it creeps into your home. I hope someone has a better idea than mine, which is outblasting his TV with NOVA and Carl Sagan reruns.

  • laureninphx
    laureninphx Member Posts: 138
    edited September 2019

    I second the LIKE button!

    CONGRATS Miriandra! Great news!

    Ugh Spookiesmom - I'd get big ass neon earplugs myself, but I’ve never been married so probably not the best person to advise. I like Alices advice haha. Go Carl!

    My biopsy went well today. I’m a little sore, but not too bad. We'll see how it feels tomorrow. Results Monday. The only thing I know is it wasn’t fluid filled. I’m very prepared for malignancy. NOT prepared for triple negative or otherwise unfavorable news.

    We shall see. (Being an obsessive planner, those words are endlessly annoying to me.)

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 1,418
    edited September 2019

    Lauren,

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  • wanderweg
    wanderweg Member Posts: 487
    edited September 2019

    Lauren, hope the news is better than you fear. Let us know.

  • wanderweg
    wanderweg Member Posts: 487
    edited September 2019

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  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Member Posts: 8,178
    edited September 2019

    👍👍

  • alicebastable
    alicebastable Member Posts: 1,962
    edited September 2019

    Brilliant!

  • laureninphx
    laureninphx Member Posts: 138
    edited September 2019

    Sums it up. I don’t understand how anyone can’t see how ridiculous it really is. <insert obligatory respect comment> To each his own I guess.

  • Yogatyme
    Yogatyme Member Posts: 1,793
    edited September 2019

    I am not a religious person despite being in the pew every Sunday growing up. I'm probably best described as agnostic (my husband says I'm hedging my bet 😂), and when people tell me they are praying for me I always say, “Thank you for your kindness". I live in the Bible Belt, so random people say this frequently and I tell myself they are well meaning and don't take offense. My husband, however, was raised in a Southern Baptist home and is now atheist and has much more anger about it. When someone tells him they are praying for me he is polite but then later says to me, “where was God when that damned cancer got in your breast?". I don't know the answers, just the questions (maybe I should go on Jeopardy 😂). I do feel fortunate that my in-laws have not asked their minister to come pray with me but rather just asked my permission to put me on the prayer list at their church. I know it gives them comfort and a sense of “doing something". Ultimately, it is the kindness that matters to me as long as they don't try to impose their beliefs on me or judge me for my values. Judge not lest ye be judged.....a Christian value too often not adhered to by Christians.

    Addendum: my husband has recently begun responding to “God bless" with “Praise be" from Handmaids Tale. Can't wait to read Margaret Atwood's new book. Heard an interesting interview w her on PBS last Tues on the trip to see MO.

  • Yogatyme
    Yogatyme Member Posts: 1,793
    edited September 2019

    When people ask me how I live without faith, I tell them I have a lot of faith, just not anything religious or supernatural.

  • alicebastable
    alicebastable Member Posts: 1,962
    edited September 2019

    In one of the kidney cancer forums I'm in (that I haven't been kicked out of yet!), one woman was going on and on and on about her religion, and how she insisted that her urologist join her in prayer before the surgery! He acquiesced, unfortunately. I'd have asked her if she demands that her minister perform operations.

    I'm really starting to wonder if there's a correlation between excessive religion and kidney cancer.

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 1,418
    edited September 2019

    If there is a correlation, it is most likely the long, slow progression of kidney disease along with the restrictions required make religious people more religious in their efforts to have control.


  • alicebastable
    alicebastable Member Posts: 1,962
    edited September 2019

    Ah, it must be some sort of physical-spiritual-psychological tightassery Venn diagram.