Is anyone else an atheist with BC besides me?
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Betrayal, so true. Here in Houston we’ve got the Olsteens, ugh that Joel is one creepy dude.
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I agree with you about Joel Olsteen. He's always made my skin crawl. How do these charlatans sucker in these people???
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Pingpong, one way is by using “gods will” as a means of dismissing personal responsibility. Some people are content to wait for things to happen and praying for it is much easier that putting in the physical effort.
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And Olsteen's wife is just as creepy. You should see their mansion. It's a great paying job. Anybody remember Jim & Tammy Faye Baker?
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Robert P. Jones in his book White too long, writes: The more racist attitudes a person holds, the more likely he or she is to identify as a white Christian." The results hold true for regular and infrequent churchgoers, across geographical regions and for white evangelicals, mainline Protestants and Roman Catholics. It's hard to argue with his conclusion that white supremacy is somehow genetically encoded into white Christianity in the United States. Sadly, white Christians are about 30 percentage points more likely to say monuments to Confederate soldiers are symbols of Southern pride rather than symbols of racism.
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Joel Olsteen reminds me of Howdy Dowdy except he's not funny, just pathetic.
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It's not surprising that white Christians have a large component of racism, although the Abrahamic religions all have a large component. Their religion emphasizes purity, mental purity and physical purity. Evangelicals and Catholics especially emphasize purity telling young girls that if they have sex they will be like used chewing gum or stained. This is how the custom of fathers giving daughters purity rings comes about. It is but a step to take this purity fixation and adapt it to race, nationality or politics.
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ananda,I had not thought about the purity ring thing. Wilkerson in her book Caste, writes that 'purity' is one of the pillars of caste. Thus, the need for segregation in order to prevent the black caste (know in India as untouchables) from polluting the white caste.
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Buddhists, Jains, and Sikhs of India don't recognize caste but they are in the minority of India. The untouchables may be of darker skin color but they are still Indian.
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Cissie Graham Lynch, the granddaughter of late evangelical pastor Billy Graham referred to transgender girls as boys. The Human Rights Campaign, the country's largest LGBTQ rights group, called Lynch's remarks "dehumanizing and demeaning". Why do christians like Cissie and her followers have such disregard and distain for some human beings who come under their notion 'god's children'?
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oh but trans stuff is messy outside of religion too. There are plenty of atheist or secular left wing people, including LGBQ who have issues with trans dogma & think the T doesn't go under their umbrella.
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I have a hard time understanding why anyone has issues with groups of people unlike themselves, except for those who hurt children or animals, I can’t think of any redeeming qualities there. Don’t get me wrong, I dislike plenty of people but it’s personal, lol
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I agree with disliking people hurting animals and children & add people who hurt women.
ultimately for me, religion or no religion, humans are complicated
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Trump administration says Catholic church is entitled to fire gay teachers because it is allowed "to employ in key roles ONLY persons whose beliefs and CONDUCT are consistent" with its "religious precepts. HMMM! Surprising, the Catholic church did not fire all the sexual predator priests. So, the man who was legally married gets fired, but if the men i.e. priests, have sex with children they can stay in their parishes or get moved to other parishes. The hypocrisy of Catholics is mind bending. Another reason, among countless others I am on this site.
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You and me both, magiclight. You and me both. The hypocrisy of most religions has always angered me. How dare they presume to tell me how to live my life when they live theirs in such a sanctimonious and destructive way? If they keep their religion out of our government, then I'm okay with keeping our government out of their religion. Otherwise they need to pay taxes just like any other entity.
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I have to post the image separately because the "new and improved" site makes me switch to plain text or it jerks me off the page after one letter. So for the meme image, besides "racists", add misogynists, homophobes, transphobics, and many other hate groups.
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Amy Coney Barrett, is a possible supreme court nominee without ANY experience as a judge who "comments she had made at Notre Dame years before about being a "different kind of lawyer." She said we should always remember that a "legal career is but a means to an end … and that end is building the Kingdom of God.'
Now that is really really scary. I don't care if that Kingdom is a christian, muslim, mormon, or jewish one, that is not the purpose of the judiciary.
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I’ve read that if the prez manages to ram through a Court pick, it’s the end of legal abortion. Too many conservative judges.
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Agree. Yet I am sure that people with financial means i.e. legislators, judges, etc. will be able to travel to places where they are still available for their own daughters, wives, mistresses.
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OMG - "the end is the kingdom of God"... Like nothing else matters.
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Spookiesmom, it will not only be the end of a woman's right to choose, I suspect that all the rights we have over our bodies will be eroded. Along with trying to make religion paramount. This scares me. You believe what you want and I'll believe what I want but don't tell me I have to live your beliefs.
Are you doing well? I haven't seen posts from you in some time. Sending you loads of love!
HUGS!
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I agree. I don't think the religion of some people should dictate what other people are allowed to do. We were founded to be a secular country by people who were well aware of the dangers of allowing religion to take over.
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Hi Peg! I hang on the Ibrance threads, and stage 4 mostly. Here and the liberal thread. Doing pretty well. How about you? Smoke has been bad in your area?
Yes, those good church people don’t want you to have choice, but won’t help you raise the child. My way or the high way can shove it.
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As far as a woman's right to choose. If the SC is overwhelmingly conservative can a Dem Congress with a Dem WH do anything? If the SC doesoverturn Roe v Wade?
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dogmom... not sure about what congress or president can do but a few states will still allow abortion. Some states have abortion rights in their constitution. Obviously, women with money will be able to travel to those states, so those women can be pro-life until they need one.
https://www.guttmacher.org/state-policy/explore/abortion-policy-absence-roe
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A Democratic majority can expand the Supreme Court and also the Federal Courts to better reflect the will of the majority of the American voters. This would be especially appropriate if they fill RBG's seat during an election and it turns out to be a big win for Democrats.
Most people appreciate fairness and hate hypocrisy, especially in public servants.
I think this move will cost the Republicans votes, mainly in Blue Collar women. They are, by and large, pro choice. Plus, they are the ones bearing the brunt of the ongoing pandemic. Essential workers or low paid factory workers who have to deal with remote schooling their kids, worrying about their parents' risk and their family's finances. I think women are tired of the constant chaos. At least that's what I'm hearing from my cousins who are normally Republican voters.
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Well said Trish
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Grr, I'm so mad right now. I'm in a FB group for kidney cancer, and they seem to all be getting super religious lately. What the heck is "Giving my cancer up to God?" I thought the pathologist got mine after I was through with it! I already had to quit one group because it was all Jeeebus and Gawwwd in every post. I'd really hate to lose this one. I'm in another non-FB forum but it's not very active except for lots of posts about "cancerversary" and scans, before and after. We're the last group it's acceptable to marginalize. But what's really sad it that the FB group is international and has a lot names that I would think are not Christian. Christians are so damn self-centered!
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