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  • 3monstmama
    3monstmama Member Posts: 123
    edited February 2011

    My brain doesn't hurt----I'm just trying to figure out how I can endear myself to the new lords and masters of the universe. . . . .hmmmm time for a refresher on all that sci fi reading from my youth!

  • molly52
    molly52 Member Posts: 142
    edited February 2011

    Anybody read Issac Isamov's (sp) "I Robot"?

  • chumfry
    chumfry Member Posts: 169
    edited February 2011

    "I, for one, welcome our new robotic overlords!" <hee-hee>

    Hubby and I have been watching Battlestar Galactica on Netflix and I'm fascinated by the Cylons and what it means to be "human."

    (Don't anyone tell me the ending because we're only on Season 2.5.) :D

    I don't know if this is too simplistic for a "meaning of life," but I feel comforted by trying to help as many people as I can, while hurting as few people (including myself) as possible.

    I've noticed that some of my religious friends bring up the "meaning of life" when I tell them I'm an atheist. They say: "Well, if there's no god and no judgment, then what's the point?" My answer usually is something like: "Why does there have to be a point?" To me, that mindset seems more about humans trying to make themselves feel more important than they really are.

    --CindyMN

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 842
    edited February 2011

    Hi Chumfry ... my question is .. why does it even have to be about judgment?  What's that got to do with anything. 

    Bren

  • river_rat
    river_rat Member Posts: 317
    edited February 2011

    Bren, I agree.  I don't need the threat of judgment to do as I perceive right.  As for my purpose, I just try to learn from others and teach and help others as I can, and give and receive love.

  • socallisa
    socallisa Member Posts: 10,184
    edited February 2011

    I find that most people think in terms of beginnings and endings, but really, maybe the universe, changing all the time, has been here forever and will continue to be here forever. Of course, some

    entities come and go but the changing whole will be here or there forever.

  • molly52
    molly52 Member Posts: 142
    edited February 2011

    Agreed.  Free will.  Amazing concept, we can be as nice as we want to for no reason at all.

    However, have heard of a few studies that found people to be happier / live longer/better when they do charitable acts. 

  • flannelette
    flannelette Member Posts: 398
    edited February 2011

    I have thought of this, too. Perhaps the universe has been here forever - it is a concept we really cannot understand with our rational minds, because everything in it comes and goes. One Hindu  notion is that of the god Shiva dancing it into creation, then dancing it down, endlessly. and you have to wonder about the Big bang theory - yes, the universe is expanding, but I don't know if the jury's still out on whether it will at some point begin to contract again - then what? nothingness and then another Big Bang? Certain religious leaders quite like the Big bang theory as it allows for a mover - a creator - behind the Big Bang. Not up on current scientific theories - this I gleaned from my studies 10 years ago so no doubt out of date. so wish I had dial-up!

    About our purpose here - nothing wrong IMHO with love, love, love. Perhaps it - compassion, empathy, kindness -creativity? are currently the ultimate in the being human dept. oh-perhaps add enlightenment, for some. Once, when asked the purpose of life, the Dalai Lama thought, then said "to be happy and to make others happy". so simple sounding. But much deeper than how it appears on the surface.  Much of what the Dalai lama says seems simple - but he is a great scholar and a very, very happy person - and I do believe he knows what he is talking about.

    Another thought - perhaps we are all moving in our evolution, towards enlightenment - which, as far as I can see, is seeing reality as it really is. which is not from our conceptual mind. (Been reading Eckhart Tolle). going with the flow.....

  • socallisa
    socallisa Member Posts: 10,184
    edited February 2011

    Actually almost all last week's Time magazine focused on Singularity..

    My father was a genius and I often wished there were some way his

    brain contents could be saved..however, it is his reasoning ability  too..

    lots to mull over

  • molly52
    molly52 Member Posts: 142
    edited February 2011

    Are we really "here" or are we figments of a collective imagination?

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 612
    edited February 2011

    I try NOT to think about reincarnation, as I step on too many spiders.

    I can come up with nothing more profound than that at this ungodly hour to be awake...

  • socallisa
    socallisa Member Posts: 10,184
    edited February 2011

    according to the advanced technology of singularity, you will live forever

  • flannelette
    flannelette Member Posts: 398
    edited February 2011

    This w/end I'm going to my sis' where they actually have high-speed and I'm either going to read up on singularity or buy a Time magazine. I see in my last post I said I wish I was on dial-up - sheesh - wish I were on high-speed! Nothing works here! I'm in a sort of granite signal-blocking black hole...

  • Maya2
    Maya2 Member Posts: 244
    edited February 2011

    I remember dial-up, and it's not loving thoughts.

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 842
    edited February 2011

    OMGosh .. I hated dial up.  I had to switch to high speed because of my business and couldn't believe the difference!

    It was a gorgeous day today.  I even have a window open!  Yay, it feels like springtime.  I know it won't last, but it's been nice being outside and taking the dogs for a walk this past few days.  I even started cleaning out some of my flower beds!

    Bren 

  • socallisa
    socallisa Member Posts: 10,184
    edited February 2011

    I did hit the beach today...

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 612
    edited February 2011

    How odd, I come on here and my avatar is missing...Maybe I should have changed it to the looney toons, too, while I was at it?

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 1,017
    edited August 2012

    SOCalLisa

    that is SO, SO, SO beautiful - did you really take that picture today?  We are celebrating the temperature going above 40 - and maybe it will help melt the 7 foot snow drifts!!!

  • socallisa
    socallisa Member Posts: 10,184
    edited February 2011

    C. Yes I took that picture yesterday in La Jolla..my 91 year old  mother is visiting from Florida

    and we were showing her the sights around here

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 612
    edited February 2011

    Oh, I sure miss the California coast!! Beautiful shot, Lisa!

  • Maya2
    Maya2 Member Posts: 244
    edited February 2011

    Lisa, is that ice plant growing in the foreground of your beach shot? It's goregous!

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 842
    edited February 2011

    Lisa .. love the photo of La Jolla.  Looks like it was a gorgeous day in San Diego.  Hope to be there the end of April visiting the grands!

    Bren

  • socallisa
    socallisa Member Posts: 10,184
    edited February 2011

    maya, yes that is ice plant..lots of that around here, so many varities

    Bren..hope you have some time when you visit to get together

  • socallisa
    socallisa Member Posts: 10,184
    edited February 2011

    This is a view looking north from La Jolla from Mt. Soledad

  • river_rat
    river_rat Member Posts: 317
    edited February 2011

    Oh my!  (sigh)  Beautiful!

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 1,418
    edited February 2011

    For those interested in the possibility of living forever, here is a link to "Nova Science Now"

    http://video.pbs.org/video/1754457671

  • raeinnz
    raeinnz Member Posts: 553
    edited February 2011

    My committed Christian, supremely intelligent best friend is convinced she is going to live forever in Heaven in a renewed body after she dies.  I wish I could believe her and join her... it sounds so appealing. 

  • river_rat
    river_rat Member Posts: 317
    edited February 2011

    Raeinnz, my heart goes out to the people of New Zealand.  Stay safe.

    I understand what you were saying above.  An elderly friend of mine recently lost a daughter to cancer and she was telling me how she missed her daughter but that she had total faith that her daughter is in Heaven and that she will be with her again there.  I'm glad that she has that faith as I don't know how she would have made it through all she has without it.  But it's not part of my belief system.

    I have found it comforting just to think that my energy and matter will continue in the universe after I'm gone, even though I don't have a belief that I will be conscious of that. 

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 842
    edited February 2011

    River Rat ... I was thinking about this last night.  I guess it is comforting for most to think they will be with their loved ones when they die.  It just doesn't work for me ... more along the lines of dust to dust and ashes to ashes for me.  I do think my 'matter' will be changed and maybe be good food for all my flowers.

    Death to me seems like a very long nap.

    Bren

  • river_rat
    river_rat Member Posts: 317
    edited February 2011
    Bren, I agree.
     
    "Death to me seems like a very long nap."