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  • specialk
    specialk Member Posts: 9,261
    edited April 2016

    Stacey - lol! Glad it is nothing more serious, and I'm with you on the glasses. I have them stashed all over the house, in the car - everywhere. I have also found using the cell phone camera and enlarging the picture to be helpful, as well as using a handheld magnifying mirror. I had a spitting stitch on the underside (IMF) incision and the little mirror was good for keeping an eye on it. It is interesting that referred feelings occur in weird places - I have had stitches removed from an incision on the front of the breast at the nippleand felt it right above the sternum - very odd sensation.

  • Scottiemom11
    Scottiemom11 Member Posts: 1,072
    edited April 2016

    Best wishes to you SpecialK. My surgeries were hard enough so I can't even imagine. I'm no expert, but my PS specifically told us that she did not cut my pects. She lifted them up off the chest wall and put the TES under them. I had a great deal of pain during expansion from my tight pects so I stopped at 250cc. For exchange PS managed to squeeze 300cc high profile mentors under my pects, again with no cutting. I did have some lipo on the sides and cut nerves everywhere which still act up. PS's all have different methods for these surgeries. I will eventually visit Vinnie for 3d tattoos.

    Scottie

  • robinblessed54
    robinblessed54 Member Posts: 485
    edited April 2016

    Hey I noticed they moved the Back to top button away from remove email notifications!!

    Nice going and than you!!

    Robin

  • mvspaulding
    mvspaulding Member Posts: 166
    edited April 2016

    Had my exchange surgery Thursday. I felt great the first night but not so great the past two days. I think my main problem is not being able to sleep well. I'm anxious to see what they look like but they told me to keep everything wrapped up until Monday when I go back to Dr.

  • Fluffygerbillips
    Fluffygerbillips Member Posts: 20
    edited April 2016

    imagemvspaulding - I had my exchange done 4 months ago and I was soooo anxious to see them but honestly, they have changed so much! That first peek was a completely fictional representation (thank god!!). I've gone from hysterics about the size, location & shape of them to wishing I could walk around topless 24/7 so I can show them off. Be patient & be prepared that they may not be beautiful... YET.

    Also, one thing that really changed my view of them was seeing them with nipples... Check out nippletattoos.com. It's the site of a tattoo artist (she's a previvor)that specializes in 3D nipple tattoos but she also sells incredible TEMPORARY nipple tattoos. I could NOT believe the difference. My foobs went from lumps to actual breasts with the addition of a kiddy lick-n-stick tattoo LOL.

  • Suzanne50
    Suzanne50 Member Posts: 221
    edited April 2016

    I am 4 weeks post surgery and just went back to PS to remove a stitch that never dissolved. So good to get that taken out as it was kind of painful. I had a single mastectomy so the one side has a silicone implant and the other side he gave a lift and saline implant. As of right now, there really are not a match. He says I have to wait 4 months for things to settle. My mastectomy side sits higher than the other side. He said I had a lot of scar tissue from radiation. I am a bit disappointed as I don't think I can really wear a t-shirt at this point since they just don't look even.

    I am hoping that, with time, it will drop a bit and I will look more balanced. Anyone else have this problem? PS says they are same size. He says we may have to go back in 4 months and "tweek". Not really what I was hoping for.

  • mvspaulding
    mvspaulding Member Posts: 166
    edited April 2016

    thanks Fluffy, she did warn me that they wouldn't look so good right away but I would need to give it some time. I'm so glad to be rid of the expanders I just am anxious to get all of this behind me now.

  • proctor1725
    proctor1725 Member Posts: 10
    edited April 2016

    Glad you are doing well. Sucks about the sleep. After my DM, I slept in a recliner for a few weeks (until all of the drains were out). That was the only place I was comfortable. Now that my husband is gone, my daughter wants to sleep with me all the time so should be interesting since she was scared of my drains. Keep us posted. 2.5 weeks for me.

  • robinblessed54
    robinblessed54 Member Posts: 485
    edited April 2016

    Okay ladies, I am reaching out to all of you for some help for one of my cancer support group ladies. She had bmx, te's and saline implants. She isn't too far out but complaining of a flap of skin near one side at armpit. I haven't seen it yet but sounds like dog ears. But also a lot of pain too. I don't know anything about saline implants. I also don't know if she had pocket work done or not. They are not even. They told her to masssge them after the fact but didn't show her how. She can't sleep on that side for pain. But I didn't sleep on my side for months! Any suggestions?

    Thanks


  • Fluffygerbillips
    Fluffygerbillips Member Posts: 20
    edited April 2016

    Suzanne50, 4 weeks out is just the beginning! Read my post above yours. 4 months out I can finally say that I love my foobs but before that they were too high, lopsided, hard, shaped weird.... It will definitely "drop & fluff", don't you worry!

  • Fluffygerbillips
    Fluffygerbillips Member Posts: 20
    edited April 2016

    mvspaulding, I hear ya! I lived with those aweful expanders for 16 months. 1100cc of concrete.... I didn't sleep much, I'll tell ya

  • Fluffygerbillips
    Fluffygerbillips Member Posts: 20
    edited April 2016

    robinblessed54, my dog ears went away once my implants dropped. I was pretty unhappy with them before that but now one side is completely gone & the other side is minimal. I think both issues really depend on how far out she is. I couldn't sleep on my side for the first couple months either but I'm at 4 months now, they've softened, all pain is gone I can sleep on my side again.

  • Scottiemom11
    Scottiemom11 Member Posts: 1,072
    edited April 2016

    robin, I had some extra skin on either side of TEs. PS gave me the option of bilateral lipo or removing the skin. I did not want additional scars so chose lipo. Very painful but it did the trick.

    I still can't sleep on either side. Not sure why but it's nerve related. I sleep with a total body pillow that allows me to curl up some what. I even travel with it. It gets some weird looks. Lol

    Scottie

  • Suzanne50
    Suzanne50 Member Posts: 221
    edited April 2016

    Fluffygerbils...I am so happy to hear that there are good things to come since at this moment in time, I am not happy. And I have to say I am not even that picky. I don't care about size - I just want same size! But you have given me hope. So I will hang in there and be patient. This is why I love this site - there is always someone a few steps ahead of you with hope for those a few steps behind.

  • bikefam
    bikefam Member Posts: 98
    edited April 2016

    Fluffy (and others): My foob is also very much higher than my natural breast. Have been waiting patiently for the "Drop and Fluff". It's been 4 months. I saw the PS this week and he didn't think it was going to drop, as my skin is so tight. I'm still hoping, as I look pretty uneven on tigher shirts. Has anyone taken maybe much longer than 4-6 months to drop or am I the odd duck. I posted some pictures on the picture forum.

  • Scottiemom11
    Scottiemom11 Member Posts: 1,072
    edited April 2016

    bikefam. . .I think drop and fluff varies. My PS actually laughed when I asked her if that would happen and she was right with regard to me. I'm more than 8 months out and mine haven't budged because my pects are so tight. PS promised me sisters, not twins and mine are fairly close. Still consider a second opinion.

    Scottie

  • kingster
    kingster Member Posts: 289
    edited April 2016

    Bikefam, i had bilateral recon, but my left was lower about half inch. I'm one year out now, and I think they seem to look better to me with time. I did massage the higher one down. I also adjusted the genie bra so the band was above the implant on the higher side. I also tried an ace wrap, under the lower one and above on the higher one to help it come down. I saw that on a u tube video on how to deal with asymmetry after an augmentation. The left is still a little lower, but not noticeable in a bra and clothes. A second opinion ps told me that he thought they were both sitting too low. Not worth it to me to consider a revision. Maybe if they get real bad, or actually need replaced, then I'll consider. My natural breasts were asymmetrical too. Also, a natural breast has more droop than any implant could I think.

  • kingster
    kingster Member Posts: 289
    edited April 2016

    I just wanted to add that my ps never suggested the things that I tried to make my right implant lower. I just wanted them to look as even as possible. I think it did help some. Time probably helped the most. I don't think a reconstructed breast will have the droop of a natural breast.

  • Fluffygerbillips
    Fluffygerbillips Member Posts: 20
    edited April 2016

    My right foob was higher too. It dropped on its own substantially but was still a bit higher so my PS gave me some "pocket displacement" stretches to do (basically just pushing it to where I want it). They are working for sure. I can barely notice a difference anymore.

    Everyone is different but do be patient, it takes months before you should think to worry about the final outcome & even then, there's some easy fixes to get further improvement

    Kingster, i don't have a genie bra but I think I'll give your ace wrap idea a try! Genius. Maybe I'll be able to get my right side down that last 1/4 inch!

  • SissiAngel
    SissiAngel Member Posts: 13
    edited April 2016

    Dear ladies,

    I am writing to report my experience on the exchange surgery that took place on March 24th.

    A short summary of my story: Due to the mastectomy I had of my left breast more than 3 years ago, on November 2015 I had a surgery to place the TE Mentor CPX, medium height, 650cc. In 3 months, the TE was overfilled to 680cc. One month after that last fill, on March 2016, I had a surgery that included an exchange of the TE for an anatomic implant on my left breast and a prophylactic nipple sparing mastectomy on my right breast with direct to implant reconstruction.

    On my left breast the PS replaced the TE with a Mentor anatomical implant, tall height, high profile, 610cc. That was the easy part of the surgery. On my right breast, he performed a nipple sparing mastectomy and placed a Mentor anatomical implant, tall height, high profile, 485cc. There was a need for a smaller implant on the right due to the skin that was spared. He also placed the nipple higher performing a mastopexy because my right breast was ptotic. Finally, because my right breast areola was rather big, he cut a piece and used it as a transplant on my left breast.

    Today, almost three weeks post surgery, everything is healing well. The transplant of the areola on the left breast was successful. The left breast is healing quicker than the right breast because the muscle and tissues had already been healing since the previous placement of the TE. On the right breast there was more pain which the first four days prevented me from being able to lie down and get up from bed on my own. Also, the right breast is still swollen and even though the implant is smaller on the right, the breast looks bigger. It is not very obvious in clothes, only without clothes.

    The PS told me that the swelling on the right breast could take up to six months to subside. Is there someone who could confirm that? I am wearing a sports bra with buttons in the front 24/7. I am really looking forward for everything to heal completely and for the swelling on the right to subside so I can see what my new foobs really look like! So far, I am pleased with the result and I really like the shape that the anatomical implants give to my foobs. I like better the size of my swollen right breast but I will have to settle for the size of my smaller left breast which is a not very full C cup. On the bright side, I will have the C cup I wanted the least (but prefered a D cup), plus breasts that are firm and no longer ptotic! I don't think I will be doing anything to reconstruct the nipple on the left breast, the transplanted areola is enough for me, at least for the time being.

    Thank you for taking the time to read this. Any thoughts are appreciated.

  • bikefam
    bikefam Member Posts: 98
    edited April 2016

    Scottie, Kingster, Fluffy: Thanks for the comments. I'll check out U-Tube and maybe try the ace bandage thing. Or maybe get a genie bra. Everyone seems to love them. My PS said I could try massaging it, but didn't tell me how. Pocket displacement stretches-sounds like a funny term, but it it's just pushing things around, I've been doing my own version of massage like that but maybe I'll get more aggressive. When I massage it too much, my incision gets sore-does anyone else have that 4 months out?

    So yes, I'm going to ask him again about a lift and how symmetric he can make me. Then maybe be a second opinion. I really am trying to be patient. And I appreciate talking with you ladies about it, as my DH and close friend here are probably getting tired of hearing about it

    Happy

  • specialk
    specialk Member Posts: 9,261
    edited April 2016

    The post exchange massage I was instructed to do (bi-lat, I did not have symmetry issues, but I feel like this technique might work if that was the intended use) was to push the implant in the directions of the clock hands noon, 3, 6 and 9 - by pushing up, down or to the side, pretty firmly and holding for 20 seconds. So at the noon position (top) push down and hold, at the 3 and 9 positions push to the opposite side, and at the 6 position push up. I was advised to do this several times a day, basically as often as I thought about it. This can help prevent capsular contracture and assist with softening so the implants move down into place and fall forward a bit (the fluff and drop you all hear about). Not all PS advise massage so this is something you should discuss with yours. If you have had allograft material placed at the time of exchange most PS will not have you massage as you may disturb the graft and it won't adhere correctly.

  • Fluffygerbillips
    Fluffygerbillips Member Posts: 20
    edited April 2016

    Hi Bikefam, Your individual procedure & implants etc dictate whether it's appropriate to massage... Our situations are probably all a bit different.

    I was told NOT to massage my implants for the first few months. It wasn't until 3 months that I was instructed to do the stretches to help lower one implant. I'm pretty sure she called them pocket displacement stretches but I might be wrong about that. Basically I just put my palms at the top of the implant near my armpit & push my implant down & towards center (because that's where my implant should be). She said to do it firmly but gently, just so I feel it stretching at the bottom where we need it to stretch. I do that for 5-10 minutes a day & it is helping a lot.

    I'm just 4 months out but I do not have any pain at all. Honestly I've had almost zero pain from my exchange. But then I lived with my expanders for 16 months so I was good & stretched!

    Definitely do not do any stretches or massaging without your PS's ok first though!

  • bikefam
    bikefam Member Posts: 98
    edited April 2016

    Fluffy: Everyone is so different. My PS prescribed physical therapy for me 5 weeks post exchange. My implant seemed to move around as I was stretching. He also okayed me to go back to swimming at that time-said maybe the exercise would make it drop. He mentioned massage to help as well, but didn't say how and I didn't ask. The thing that surprised him was that my non-mx side, with an augmentation, dropped right away (within 3 days). That's a big reason why I look so uneven. Both sides were originally the same height.


  • Anniekay80
    Anniekay80 Member Posts: 92
    edited April 2016

    Been gone from these boards for a while so trying to play catch up. Only 15 more sleeps until my exchange and I get to join the squishy club. I seriously can hardly wait. My final fill was 3 weeks ago and they have done their job of stretching the muscle because now they move back and forth and up and down, sliding across my ribs. It is the strangest sensation. While sleeping on my side, I wake up in pain and have to switch sides. So, a lot of interrupted sleep and the fatigue from my BMX has never really gone away. But, I lead a sedentary lifestyle before BC and now with the fatigue and continued muscle spasms I'm leading whatever is lower than sedentary......slug? LOL

    But this slug had to get moving for better or for worst. My DH who in July 2015 had heart attack/CABG x4/stroke/1 month hospitalization/3 months outpatient therapy and had a miraculous recovery, recently started having cardiac issues again. At only 9 months after his surgery, we just found out 3 out of his 4 bypasses are clogged. He is scheduled for an ICD placement 6 days before my exchange. He can't drive until he has his followup at the 1 week mark which is the day after my exchange surgery. So for 2 days neither one of us can drive AND my hospital/surgeon is an hour away. We are lucky our oldest daughter can get time off work to drive us to my surgery, and then our younger daughter is taking my DH to his followup appt the following day. In between all this he has other appts and I have to go with him to interpret the medical lingo etc. So, busy busy busy...

    So the good news is I'm keeping my mind off BC, but it's not exactly for a good reason. I keep praying that things will start getting better and maybe even easier....... But I know we are lucky cause I take care of him and he takes care of me; we're a team! At least it is starting to feel like Spring here in Michigan. Its supposed to be 70 degrees and sunny this weekend....yeah!!!! Gotta look forward and try to find positivity wherever I can these days. Sunshine and warm weather......hopefully Spring is finally here to stay.......that's miracle enough for me.

    Cyber hugs to all....

  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,008
    edited April 2016

    I saw my PS today. The plan, as long as BS agrees, will be to schedule the prophy umx on my remaining breast and TE placement. Do about 6 weeks of fills and do the exchange on both sides at the same time. Yes! He said my TE looks great despite radiation!

  • moonflwr912
    moonflwr912 Member Posts: 5,938
    edited April 2016

    Huello everyone. I wanted to a dress Staceysue. Did you consider the fact you can delay the exchange for a while? Once everything is healed you could wait fir the exchange until you have been ack to work fir awhile. I know it's not ideal but it is a while option. I had one expander in for almost 2 years due to problems with my other ide. My PS aid some had been n for ore than 3 years. Your PS could also withdraw a bit of your fill to make them more comfortable for you. Something to discuss with your PS but perhaps a way for you to handle that?

  • kingster
    kingster Member Posts: 289
    edited April 2016

    I was just diagnosed with elevated "prolactin" level. It's causing problems with my periods and other things like pelvic pressure. I read that chest wall irritation could be a cause. Has anyone had this diagnosis after implants placed? I am to see an endocrinologist now. Another doctor added to the mix:/

  • StaceySue2U
    StaceySue2U Member Posts: 83
    edited April 2016

    Thanks, Moonflower, that is what I've decided to do. I applied for a job last week and they called and did a phone interview and I should hear from them Monday. I was honest with them about the fact that I'm going to have to be on light duty another three weeks and then have an exchange surgery maybe this fall. I assured them I'm not sick, I won't be calling in all the time, I'm not dying, I don't need chemo. It is so frustrating how long all this has been taking and the toll it's taking on my career. I told my new PS I thought I was big enough and I just want to get the implants and be done with it and go back to work but he said I'm rushing things and we need to just slow down and make sure I get the results I want. He doesn't think I'm big enough, thinks we need to slow down. GRRRRRRRRR

  • kingster
    kingster Member Posts: 289
    edited April 2016

    Staceysue, how much fill do u have now? I know that frustration. I am also a nurse with long hours on my feet, very physical and mental too. I took 2 weeks off after exchange with no "pocket work" or drains. I was off 13 weeks between all 4 surgeries total. It takes a big toll on finances and just everything. I had my tissue expanders in for 8 months total. I had to have the left TE replaced 6 weeks postop...so that put me behind. This process is rough to say the least...but life must go on. I had 700 ml total, and I'm a C cup now. (I wear a size 14/16). If you go too small, you might look like a flat hamburger bun...don't want that. I worked with my TE's in. I couldn't sleep and it wasn't fun...but I made it through.