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Yazmin - is it true that green tea needs lemon to "activate"? I hadn't heard that before. Can you tell me more about this?
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Wow, lots of great info today. Love that smoothie recipe crunchy. As far as the chemo, vs no chemo stats, I know anom had posted some. I will look and see if I have it saved.
Treetoo-interesting that they are doing a study on grape seed. I mixed grape seed oil and coconut oil for my body lotion. It feels great and I am getting my antioxidants directly through the skin, our largest organ.
Have any of you CA girls heard of Dr. Husbands? I think this is a very interesting article and he seems to have a great blog:
http://www.drhusbands.com/blog/other-health-issues/cancer-and-nutrition/
He gives some great tips and cites the research.
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Deni:
Research established that green tea is activated by lemon juice, and turmeric is activated by black pepper.
I have to rumage everywhere to find the relevant articles. I will post just as soon as I find them.
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Thanks Yazmin. I had read about the turmeric and pepper (should also be taken with oil), but not the green tea. If you can find the references, I would love to read them.
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I actually just found this article. I won't add sugar though. I am off of that for good!
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090909151919.htm
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deni: I am looking for an email message I received from one of my work support group members. Will still post when I manage to dig it up. You are very smart to be staying away from sugar (I do, too).
I attended a lecture (at a conference) by Dr. Moshe Frenkel (MD Anderson), that's where I found out about turmeric and black pepper. He is one of the lead MD Anderson researchers on that subject, and he concluded his presentation with this sentence: "Cultivate the land (your body). If you take care of the land, it will thrive." I thought this was a very positive outlook, and I think most reasonable people would agree.....
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Crunchy Poodle - you can also ask for the Oncotype DX test if you are ER positive and have minimal node involvement. It gives you a score that tells how likely you are to benefit from chemo or not. My onc recommended chemo but then they reversed that after I got my Oncotype score.
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Another view point about chemo:
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Rabbit, thank you -- I will definitely ask about the oncotype DX test!
All of you, thank you for all those links... I'm a sponge trying to absorb all this and really appreciate everyone sharing what they're finding!
"Cultivate the land (your body). If you take care of the land, it will thrive."
I love that, Yazmin! I started attempting to garden this summer, definitely organic, and so many parallels struck me between the organic approach to gardening (feed the soil, and it will feed the plants... when plants are fed by the soil, rather than chemicals, they are MUCH better able to fend off pests and disease) and the natural approach to health and healing. That quote pretty much sums it up!
On another note... I just read a few replies to me on another thread that felt like a punch in the stomach. I asked a question in the "Not Diagnosed, but Scared" forum. Several people were super-helpful... a few of them told me to keep a lid on it until I have a diagnosis. Okay, that's fine, but then one woman said, "Julia, you sound like a cancer wannabe. Just sayin' ...."
Is it me, or is THAT a horribly insensitive thing to say... not just to me, but to EVERYONE with cancer who might read that??Anyway, I'm going to give them their wish and stay away. If any of you are on an alternative bc forum where people won't get scolded all the time for asking questions or for choosing a different treatment path, I would love to know about it... I have been doing so well these last few days emotionally, but the last few replies to that thread have me shaking and in tears.
(I don't want to end a post on that note... I have to tell you all here, I adore you all!! THANK YOU for being so helpful and non-judgmental... you are all amazing and I'm so blessed to have "met" you all!!)
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Crunchy Poodle...those goofballs who told you to keep a lid on it until you have a diagnosis are nuts...if more people read this natural girls thread, they might be able to avoid BC in the first place. I wish I had known all this information 30 years ago!!!!! It is very difficult to learn as much as you need to learn as quickly as you need to learn it once you have been diagnosed with SFBC. We end up making life changing decisions following BC diagnosis in less time that we take to pick out a car or buy a house.
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Thanks for the smoothie recipes. Will get on that right away:)
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I had cut out all sugar. But, wanted to ask if organic honey is okay or am I better off staying off all sugar. The reason I ask is I was able to quench my chocolate craving tonight by mixing 2 heaping teaspoons of dark cocoa with almond milk and a little organic honey. If this is a bad idea, I won't do it again. I was just hoping, hoping, hoping you guys would say that it is a GREAT idea. Can't blame a girl for hoping!
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Luna - that sounds YUMMY! Actually honey is a good substitute for sugar because it is low glycymic. My doc told me to use either stevia or honey (raw is best) as a sweetner.
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My vote is for Agave nector for sweetening, I like it better than honey, and I love honey
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Yes, agave is good too!
Here is an interesting article about the resistance in the cancer industry for more personalized treatments:
http://www.cancerdecisions.com/content/view/284/2/lang,english/
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Luna-You are so right that if we had known all this stuff 30 years ago, we would have never gotten cancer. Sadly, I must admit that I probably would not have listened. All my grandmothers lived to a ripe old age. My grandmother is still alive. None of them had cancer, so I thought I was impervious. But I have come to learn the whys for my cancer, and I am committed to spread the word to healthy people so they do not end up here. That is why I am going to do this prevention convention. Now that my students are gone, I am able to work on it. I hope we can have them all over the country and get others to be more proactive in their health.
As for the honey-I think it is just fine in moderation. Honey has antioxidant powers, and that mixture of cocoa powder and rice drink sounds healthy. Cocoa is also antioxidant. I have not been able to give up my choc habit, and I think I am going to try your recipe. My problem with most chocolate is the soy lecitin junk in it. Your recipe may make it so I can feel better about chocolate. Everything in moderation of course.
Deni-I loved that website. I have emailed Dr Moss to see if I can get him to come and speak to us. Keep your fingers crossed. If anyone has other suggestions for speakers, let me know. I want to get my compounding Pharmacist to come, my hormone doc, my thermographer and have yoga classes. If Lisa ever shows up again, maybe she can come and teach us some Zumba. It will be a fun and educational weekend. I also have someone from a culinary school in Chicago who will cook for us! My next goal is to find good hotel rates. I do not want to charge anyone to come and I hope to make it as affordable as possible. I hope you will all come and bring your healthy friends so we can spread the word.
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Good morning ladies
.Vivre, All of this sounds sooo exciting and educational. I cannot wait until everything comes together and attend this wonderful convention
. Thank you so much for doing this. If there is anything that I can do or help with, please PM me and let me know. As far as getting in touch with MD's, speakers on cancer, Natural Doc's, etc. I will speak with my Primary Doc (She is all for supplements, diet prevention, etc) and see if she may be available when all takes place. Thanks again.Jenny.
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I finally had my port taken out this morning. I am PORT FREE!!!!!!! Now I can't touch it and freak out like I used to. I would think "OMG is that a tumor" for just a second. How stupid is that??? My hair is now about 2 inches long. I have come a long way baby!!!!! and I have never felt better!!!
Patty
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Woo Hoo, Patty! Portless is a good thing...
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There aren't many places where people celebrate people they care about being de-ported, but this is certainly one!
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!
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Congrats Patty! That must feel great. One hurdle down, right!!!
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YaYYYY, Patty!!! If I knew how to post a happy dance thingy, I would! Deanna
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PatMom, this is hilarious....... Congratulations, Patty.
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seaotter, congrats on your de-porting! lol, great phraseology patmom.
Luna, have you tried stevia yet? Honey still has a glycemic index, and so does agave nectar, but agave is completely plant based. I believe stevia has no glycemic index or calories, plus it's beneficial for lowering blood pressure. That's what Dr Christine Horner said in her Warrior Goddess book I just read anyway.
Vivre, your prevention convention lineup sounds great!
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Congrats Patty on the de-porting!
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Thank you all!!!!!! My de-porting is hurting a little. I hate taking tylenol or advil. I guess I will just suffer. Suffer is not the right word, hell I have been through a lot worse!!!!!!! This is a drop in the bucket!!!! You girls are the best. I love telling my dh the stories and the funnies on here. I always say "my breast friends said........"
Patty
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http://www.breastcancer.org/tips/new_research/20091009.jsp
Above link is interesting... it is "new research" showing that BC survivors should be concerned about not only recurrence but also their heart health.
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I am with althea on stevia and agave. Actually, my osteopath is not a fan of agave, she feels it is too much like sugar or is not low enough glycemic index. However, when you need sweet, it's a good choice over honey or maple syrup, or regular sugar, I think!
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I skimmed the article you mentioned, mom of boys. I swear my heart starts beating faster just by recalling some of my 'physician encounters of the third kind' while going through chemo and rads. Honestly, I think it's a miracle I survived! And thank goodness I went to new orleans for my surgery, where I found the best surgeons anywhere and more important that I, too, could have a good experience with a physician! But I digress.
One thing I distinctly remember was the moment I read the list of potential radiation side effects that I had to acknowledge, and waive my right to sue if any of them happened. There were several items on the list. The only two I remember are: increased risk of heart attack, and weakened ribs making them more susceptible to breaking, perhaps even by sneezing. I sneeze every day of my life! I think they called it an 'acknowledgement' form.
I was presented this form while I was in the waiting room, donned in the flimsy gown, while the television showed Hurricane Rita gathering force in the gulf and making a beeline for my city. No one sat with me to ask if I had any questions. I was basically expected to sign if I wanted to proceed with treatments. It made me mad to think I had to risk becoming a heart patient to survive cancer.
Every time I see that Leann Womack commercial 'raising awareness' that heart disease kills more women than breast cancer, I wonder how many of those women were bc patients FIRST! I know my heart felt like it had a bag of rocks sitting on it for the first 6 months after rads. My heart health is really the biggest reason I stick with walking most every day. I finished rads 4 years ago this month!
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I can't wait to be 4 years out from Rads! Go Althea!
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