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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 323
    edited June 2011

    Hi, has the subject of heavy metal toxicity and its inherent DNA damage as being the cause of BC ever been discussed.  If so, could someone point me in the right direction ?  Many thanks Smile

    "Heavy metal toxicity and breast cancer

    A recent study showed a direct correlation between heavy metal toxicity (cadmium,

    lead and mercury) and breast cancer. This study was undertaken at the Institute of

    Pathophysiology and Oncology at Charles University, Prague, in the Czech Republic.

    In the USA the statistics with regard to breast cancer are as follows:

    • By the age 25 years, I in every 19,608 women will develop breast cancer
    • By the age of 50 years this number changes to a shocking 1 in every

    50 women

    • By the age of 75 years there are even more dismal statistics which show

    1 in every 10 women will develop breast cancer"

    CONCLUSIONS: The data suggest that pathological accumulation of transition metals in breast tissue may be closely related to the malignant growth process.

    http://node.nel.edu/?node_id=2589

  • MsBliss
    MsBliss Member Posts: 62
    edited June 2011

    Oh gosh, I love this thread, but I wish it was broken into separate subjects....love you ladies.

  • MsBliss
    MsBliss Member Posts: 62
    edited June 2011

    High cholesterol is a result of inflammation and inflammatory processes.  Cholesterol sticks to the sides of the arteries and blood vessels to sooth inflammation in the vessel wall.  Probably excess sugar is more detrimental than excess fats as sugar feeds inflammatory pathways.  Cholesterol got the blame because that is what was found on the clogged arteries, but it was there by default, not as the primary instigator.  The truth is, you need cholesterol for healthy metabolism and brain health.

    Edited to correct some grammar.....

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 3,671
    edited June 2011

    Deana & Luan:  Thank you so much for the recent links--so informative!  I was tested for heavy metals and this wasn't a problem for me though I have to watch my mercury levels due to my eating lots of fish.

    MsBliss:  That's an important reminder--good cholesterol is necessary!

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 323
    edited June 2011

    MBJ, I promise u, if i find a copy of the book...couac, u get one for your bathroom LoL

  • Luna5
    Luna5 Member Posts: 532
    edited June 2011

    Yes, I take 25 mg Melatonin because it is an Aromatase Inhibitor...but you can tell how little my body makes on its own if I can take that much.  I don't know if I can sleep without it or not.  Mentally, I probably "think" I need it.  I also supplement with aspirin and the weirdest thing is if I get in bed and can't fall immediately asleep...then get up and take my aspirin...then I go right to sleep...placebo effect ???  I'm not even sure if I should take the aspirin at bedtime ... just seems like I would like for my blood to be nice and thinned if early morning is a scary time for blood pressure related incidents.

    MBJ  Why sublingual ONLY ???  I have been mixing them...taking 10 to 20 mg before 9 pm and then 5 mg sublingual either then or at bedtime.  What is 5HTP ? 

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 3,671
    edited June 2011
    Luna5:  From what I recall, sublingual you use what is readily available immediately, regular pills process through your liver and you get very little of it and need more and still don't get enough.  So imagine, if you take 5 mg of sublingual you really get that amount, but if you take 30 mg of a reg pill you still may not get even 5 mg or enough to get you to sleep.  Here is the link for 5HTP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-Hydroxytryptophanhttp
  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 2,701
    edited June 2011

    Hmmm... two headlines within 2 days about the dangers of environmental chemicals.  Could the tide possibly be turning?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/11/health/11cancer.html?_r=1&hp

  • Luna5
    Luna5 Member Posts: 532
    edited June 2011

    Let's hope so, Deanna.

    Thank you MBJ!

  • Luna5
    Luna5 Member Posts: 532
    edited June 2011

    Melatonin is also an antioxidant.

  • corian68
    corian68 Member Posts: 86
    edited June 2011

    I am so grateful for all the great advice & info here! Especially Fairy49 for the Bio knowledge!!!

    Thank you ladies;)

  • corian68
    corian68 Member Posts: 86
    edited June 2011

    MJB



    The sublingual Melatonin makes perfect sense, thanks!

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 323
    edited June 2011

    Corian, in your research on P53, did u come across the E-cadherin factor?

  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 506
    edited June 2011

    Hi ladies, I'm catching up after not reading here for a few days.  Sheila, I'm an ILC gal too, and thanks to the bozo I went to, my tumor got an extra 9 months to grow.  He told me I had 'aging breast tissue' to describe the hardening, thickening quadrant of my breast -- a term I've never heard anywhere else.  By the time I was dx'd and did just 5 minutes of reading about ILC, my jaw was on the floor in anger and disbelief that dr bozo clearly was unaware that ILC exists. 

    vivre, hope your speech went great today.  You're quite the mover and shaker these days!  

    I was movin and groovin at the beach this week with another in-person meeting with a bco sister.   I don't visit the stage iv section much these days, but I like to keep up with konakat who is one of my favorite people on the planet.  She's been mia for days going on weeks now.  I'm very concerned about her and another post caught my eye.  Turns out a bco sister lives an hour away in a small town and was dx'd shortly after moving to said podunk town.  She and I and her  2 young kids all went to the beach for a picnic and had a blast.  Might have to change my moniker to miss social butterfly.  lol  

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 4,503
    edited June 2011

    Althea I was just thinking about you and was going to PM you to see if you ever got together with our other BCO sister.  I am going to the PS in San Antonio on tuesday for my first consult and I am going to meet up with another BCO sister who is using the same PS group.  Anywy glad you got to get together with the other sister and her kids.  Hope you did not cry too much. I am sure it was great for her.

  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 506
    edited June 2011

    Hey everyone, have you heard about the new documentary about Dr Byrzynski?  He's one of the doctors interviewed by Suzanne Somers for her book Knockout.  There's free viewing of the film from now til June 13 at this link

  • corian68
    corian68 Member Posts: 86
    edited June 2011

    Luan

    I do remember reading about the E cadherin gene. I think I read a study about Melanoma and they mentioned it was mutated in most cases, I think? You have me curious again....have to go check ;)

    Althea, I think doctor Burzynski is amazing!!! If I ever have a recurrence, I will sell everything I own just to go see him. Also Dr. James Forsythe in NV. These doctors are pioneers in treating cancer!!

    Thanks for the documentary info.

    Corian

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 323
    edited June 2011

    Corian thanks very much. i,m on the e-cadherin thread and can,t figure out if my being positive means loss of e-cadh. read that the latter and p 53 work hand in hand ? We need a doctor in the house !

  • Merilee
    Merilee Member Posts: 734
    edited June 2011

    Just got the latest edition of the American Cancer societies Complete Guide to Nutrition fro Cancer Survivors. I will share as I go if I find anything that is new news.

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 323
    edited June 2011
    That's great Merilee, thanks in advance ! Smile
  • Luna5
    Luna5 Member Posts: 532
    edited June 2011

    Thank you Merilee!

  • corian68
    corian68 Member Posts: 86
    edited June 2011

    Luan~

     In my opinion these mutated tumor suppressor genes are more  likely the reason we get cancer. They are mutated by toxins & environmental exposure to pesticides & such. BRCA's are not the only genes that could indicate an increased cancer risk. Our bodies were designed to fight disease but they were not designed to ingest all the pollutants. Irreversible damage  damage is inevitable if we do not have tools to fight back. We need to protect our suppressor genes! I just wish I knew about them along time ago!! :( oh well.

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 7,080
    edited June 2011

    Remember when we were taught our dna cannot be changed and that the nucleus of the atom was the smallest particle?  

  • macygrace
    macygrace Member Posts: 5
    edited June 2011

    I haven't had a chance to read all this but I will try to read as much as I can.

    For now, I drink tons of green tea and a tea called Rooibos. I also chop up cloves of fresh garlic and let them sit for 15 minutes and swallow them with water all day long. I definately changed my diet by adding more vegetables and fruits.

  • Luna5
    Luna5 Member Posts: 532
    edited June 2011

    Thank you, Althea.  I watched the whole 1:47.00..... Excellent!  Shocking!

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 323
    edited June 2011

    Everybody, gotta watch the movie! Link pretty busy, u can access through the Mercola,s site.



    Corian, Pip, watched very good doc on environmental toxins last night. In just 20 years, male sperm has decreased by more than 50% in fertility. They found male frogs which had been exposed to the herbacide atrazine to have developed testes with eggs instead of spermatozoides :((((

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 7,080
    edited June 2011

    Yikes. So what is it doing to us?

    I don't think I can download the movie.  My dh relies on the internet for work and it would just take too long.  I have to say that I am not a Suzanne Somers fan but would be interested in what this doctor has to say. 

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 323
    edited June 2011

    Pip, u could just access his site and read at your leisure, i think there was a pretty good written summary of the contents of the documentary. Am not familiar with s. summers, should i be ?

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 7,080
    edited June 2011

    S Somers wrote about him in her book.  She is the actress from Three's Company.  I don't take her seriously for several reasons, but I would not discount this doctor because of that.  I want to hear what he has to say and judge it for myself.  What is his site?  Is it the same one that links to the movie?  If so, I have been having trouble getting on there.

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 323
    edited June 2011

    Pip, that,s probably because the link takes u directly to the movie. try typing his name, i did it earlier today and it worked. good luck :) but if u did have a chance to see the movie, it,s extremely compelling, touching and...upsetting

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