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  • MsBliss
    MsBliss Member Posts: 62
    edited August 2011

    But, if you raise your body temp on a 24 hr a day basis, what will that do to the sleep cycle? Good, deep sleep involves a lower body temp. Even though I am triple neg, my integrative doctor recommended the therapeutic dose of 20 mg of melatonin per night because it is a natural aromatase inhibitor and I am using bhrt. Plus, good sleep is anti carcinogenic isn't it?

  • impositive
    impositive Member Posts: 102
    edited August 2011

    Vivre, I totally agree.  All of my adult life I had used commercial lotions on my skin daily and of course my daily deoderant.  At the age of 26, I had my first basil cell cancer spot. The only advice my derm gave me was always use sunscreen and avoid sun exposure.  I did and ended up with a vit D level of 14 and even though I followed Dr's orders, I ended up with approx 35-40 basil cells and 2 melanomas over the course of the next 20 yrs.  I now KNOW I was poisoning my skin and therefore my body by using these products for so long.  Why dont our doctors know the things they recommend are detrimental to us??? Ugghhh.....It makes me angry that I never knew these things and had to find out on my own.  I recently read a study that commercial lotions were applied to the skin of UV radiated mice and they deleloped tumors.  It said:

    "The results indicate that several commercially available moisturizing creams increase the rate of formation and number of tumors when applied topically to UVB-pretreated high-risk mice. Further studies are needed to determine the effects of topical applications of moisturizing creams ... in humans."

  • impositive
    impositive Member Posts: 102
    edited August 2011

    Here is a link to the study I mentioned above if anyone wants to read it.  The results are pretty astonishing.  I think it will definitely make you think twice about using these moisturizers.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2630214/?tool=pubmed

  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 881
    edited July 2012

    Impositive-thanks for that link. You know, I cannot believe how much better my skin is since I stopped using all that stuff. I was just looking at how smooth my elbows are. They use to be so dry and wrinkly. I believe that a lot of the reason is antioxidants and omega fish oil that I take. The only thing I use topically on my skin is coconut oil and Usana's Sense skin creme, although I do not even need these much because I am boosting my skin's health from the inside out. Do you think all those skin topicals led to your bc too?

  • impositive
    impositive Member Posts: 102
    edited August 2011

    Vivre, I certainly think they contributed to it.  Dousing my skin with lotion everyday after showering as I did for many years most likely wreaked havoc on my hormones and also overloaded my body with additional toxins to have to clean up thus weakening my immunity.  My skin was so toxic, when I started to use coconut oil (or any other oil such as olive) I would have a herxheimer type reaction.  My skin would break out in an ugly rash.  I detoxed with water, diet and infrared sauna and now I can use those natural products.  Coconut oil is the only thing I put on my skin now as far as moisturizer.  I haven't gone au natural completely...I do still use make-up on my face but I'm trying to find the better ones and have found some very good suggestions on this thread.  Thanks ladies!

  • MariannaLaFrance
    MariannaLaFrance Member Posts: 166
    edited August 2011

    I had the same results with coconut oil (no adverse reactions, though).  I have found that since my diet has changed and that I am not applying toxic hormone disrupting lotions to my skin that my skin actually looks and feels better.  The coconut oil is an absolute gift, because I get comments about my "glow" all the time now!! Tongue out Love that stuff!! 

    Vivre, good information from Dr. Epstein. I got rid of all my products containing pthalates and parabens awhile back, but the sunscreen connection is not to be dismissed.  Used Zinc on our vacation last week for the whole family (Jason's Baby Minerals Sunblock). Sure, it's hard to smear on, and we have a ghostly sheen to our skin while wearing it, but it's so worth it!!

    Retinyl Palmitate is bad stuff!!! 

    Thanks for the post and information, Vivre and impositive.

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 2,701
    edited August 2011

    Although I never use it in the microwave, I had no idea plastic wrap was toxic if not heated!

    http://www.icontact-archive.com/Jbq_Te5C5t3_2ZOcACWuzkxfAxWr9YjC?w=2'' 

  • kira1234
    kira1234 Member Posts: 754
    edited August 2011

    dlb823, I had no idea the plastic wrap was bad. It now has me wondering about the plastic lunch bags I put my sandwiches in for work.

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 2,701
    edited August 2011

    I know!  Think about the gazillion of kids' lunches packed in those bags each day!   And how many foods are sold in plastic wrap!   

  • Unknown
    edited August 2011

    I am finding the coconut oil discussion really interesting.  I can recall when I was younger, in my 20's, smearing commercial "moisturizing" lotions all over my body in the winter becuase I had such horrible dry skin!   My skin would feel like it was on fire and it was dry and flaky.  When I would apply them to my face, it hurt like the dickens!  I was prone to break outs also. 

    Now I only use raw, organic coconut oil - much cheaper (thank you Vitacost! :D and I have no dry skin at all.  I don't even need to use it most days!  When winter chapping gets real bad, I break open a wheat germ capsule and use that (Standard Process guarantees the purity of theirs) and that creates a barrier for being out in the wind and such.  

    I agree - you can do it from the inside out too - .  Getting rid of shampoo and soap is another thing that has really helped my skin. I  only use Dr Woods Castile liquid soap - they have peppermint, almond; all different kinds and it's all natural and eco-friendly.  It works just as well as any deodorant or other  bar soaps from the store.  It makes for a good shampoo too; and again, from online places like Vitacost or Iherb, it is very very reasonable if you can get a free shipping offer!  

    I have stopped using all commercial laundry soaps and that has helped all of our skin incredibly.  My kids used to get those awful dry itchy rashes and they no longer do.  I make my own powdered detergent using only Ivory soap, washing soda and borax - economical, easy and it works extremely well! 

    I will say that I miss perfume.  That was something I really used to enjoy.  But it's not worth the endocrine disruption to me.  Big changes can be hard to make, but little changes, one at a time, make it a lot easier!

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 4,503
    edited August 2011

    calamtykel can you share your recipe for the homemade laudry detergent?  I would be interested in it.

  • Adey
    Adey Member Posts: 2,413
    edited August 2011

    Me too!

  • Fighter_34
    Fighter_34 Member Posts: 496
    edited August 2011

    I have pretty much deceased the comestic products that I buy. I still can't give up MAC (lawd help me here).

    But what is one to do when they want to smell GOOD. I now spray perfume on my clothes after I am dressed. Any nature fragances out there????

  • Fighter_34
    Fighter_34 Member Posts: 496
    edited August 2011
  • painterly
    painterly Member Posts: 266
    edited August 2011

    I read that Whole Foods has adopted animal welfare standards for meat in Canada. I expect you U.S. gals have already noticed this in your WF stores.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/supermarket-adopts-animal-welfare-standards-for-meat-in-canada/article2122278/

  • moderators
    moderators Posts: 8,618
    edited August 2011

    Thought you ladies might be interested in this post by Dr. Weiss from her Think Pink, Live Green blog called The Possible Price of Beauty.

    Hope you find this interesting!

    --The Mods

  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 506
    edited August 2011

    Hi ladies, 

    Say, there's a GREAT special going on right now through end of august for thyroid tests at directlabs.com.  There's a $99 combo that measures TSH, free T3, free T4, and two different antibodies.  I've had bloodwork on my wish list for a long time.  This might be the catalyst that bubbles it up to the top of my to do's.  

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 4,503
    edited August 2011

    I have a question.  My gyno checked my hormone levels and my testosterone came back really low .02 my estrodial was good at 380 so I am no where near menopause.  She wants me to see an endocrinologist and possible get on bio identical hormones with the testosterone not estrogen. Anybody know anything about this kind of stuff.  After I read up on low testosterone it makes so much since that I have lost alot of body hair over the last couple of years.  Started having hot flashes a year before bc.  My biggest concern is that low testosterone has a high rate of causing osteoporosis, but my MO already put me on Fosomax so I am ahead of the game on that.  You just don't hear much about low testosterone so anything anyone knows would be helpful

  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 506
    edited August 2011

    Hi sherryc, I've had hormone testing on my wish list for a long time.  I've found someone who does phone consults to help with hormone balancing.  Thing is though, there's a looooong list of labs to be done first and it priced out at about $900.  Ouch.  I've decided not to wait for all or nothing.  I'm going to get at least some things tested through directlabs.  Looking through what I spend on supplements, the labs dont' look so expensive anymore.  lol  If you have good insurance or money in the bank, you would have better access to a bunch of labs. 

    A long while back I was contemplating a visit to an endocrinologist, but here at the end of the earth, I reckoned I'd fare better with trying this that and the other thing with supplements.  It's been a long road, but at least I'm feeling better steadily.  Now I need to get some labs to pinpoint where I might have imbalances or deficiencies.  Feeling good isn't enough anymore.  I want to feel fantastic.  I hope you can find a good endo that will suit your needs. 

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 4,503
    edited August 2011

    Althea I do have great cover on labs.  My insurance covers it 100% so I have decide to find and endo in San Antonio that specializes in hormones if I can.  I have a list and I am just going to call around.  I feel like they will do more lab testing than other docs and then I can see if my adrenals are mal functioning as well.  I agree with you I want to feel fantastic.  My MO said he was ok with me using hormones for the testoterone but not ER and PR.  I keep you posted on what I found out about an endo in San Antonio

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 2,701
    edited August 2011

    Sherry & Althea... The naturopathic doc I'm seeing sent both my 24-hr. urine test (for hormones) and also an antibody test (for gluten intolerance) to Genova Diagnostics.  I haven't seen her for the results yet, but she mentioned choosing that lab because they will bill insurance.  Both had pretty hefty co-pays ($179 & $149), but worth it if they provide answers and peace of mind re. estrogen levels and other important things.     Deanna

    PS ~ I just looked at their website, and they have all sorts of tests for all sorts of concerns.  And you can search by disease or condition to find the pertinent ones.  PPS ~ Oh-oh... I see some complaints about this lab, especially their billing practices!  Hopefully, I won't have that problem, but just a heads up to do your own homework before possibly using them, and I'll keep you posted!

  • samsue
    samsue Member Posts: 599
    edited August 2011

    dlb, I used the Genova labs and didn't have any problems with the insurance covering. I did have to cover the co-pay and it was 149. It was worth knowing the results rather than using a local lab that doesn't use the saliva test.

  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 506
    edited September 2011

    Hey ladies, I have some exciting news!  I'm going to New York City!  My school is having a conference in New York City this month.  Among the many notable speakers, Deepak Chopra will present the keynote address.  As soon as it was announced, I wanted to go, but it seemed out of reach.  Around the same time, my I get news from my brother who works in nyc parttime has leased an apt there.  Bascially, I have a zero budget for this trip, but the conference is free to the students.  I have a place to stay.  As of last night, I now have a plane ticket too. 

    I hate to impose so heavily on family, but I decided to bag that sentiment and just ask for what I want on this one.  Now I'm going to NYC!  yee haw!  Not only am I looking forward to Deepak Chopra and some time with family, but more than anything I'm going to be in a stadium full of fellow students and graduates, people just like me.  I love my coursework, and the distance learning experience has been great, but I'm the only student in my city going there.  I am so looking forward to making a bunch of new friends! 

  • vivre
    vivre Member Posts: 881
    edited July 2012

    Way to go Althea! I am so happy you are going to be able to go. Maybe you will get  to meet up with Designer Mom and check out that organic rooftop hydroponic garden restuarant she mentioned. And of course you can visit ground zero. That will certainly be emotional. I know how you feel about being surrounded by people with a passion for health. I just got back from the Usana convention and I met so many amazing people-happy and healthy. So many people around here are just in a sad frame of mind right now, with the jobless numbers. I heard some fantastic doctors and athletes speak about Usana, convincing me even more about why Usana is a company that I trust. I got to hear Dr. Northrup speak (she is hilarious) and I got to room with one of her team members. I even caught a tennis ball autographed by Billie Jean King, one of the women I most admire for her courage and conviction to fight for rights for women in athletics.

    I know it has been quiet around here lately, I have been so busy working on my Think Beyond the Pink weekend. Hope to see some of you there!

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 4,503
    edited September 2011

    Althea that is great news about your trip and wonderful that it is working out for you to go. Is your mom going to go or will she be ok by herself at home?  I know how excited you have been about this class and it will be great to meet up with fellow students.  How exciting for you.

  • MariannaLaFrance
    MariannaLaFrance Member Posts: 166
    edited September 2011

    Althea,

    That is amazing! You will enjoy that conference, and even more so since you are getting a significant discount by staying with relatives.  Just have a great time in NYC, and learn all you can from the conference. I am certain you will get a lot out of this trip!!

  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 506
    edited September 2011

    vivre, your conference sounds great.  I loved Billie Jean King when she played tennis, esp the battle of the sexes against what's his face.  ...  what was that guy's name? 

    sherry, good heavens, there's no way mom could make this trip.  I have kitty and mom covered by two friends and neighbors.  I'm bribing them with food.  I'll be loading up my mom's fridge with food and someone each day will assemble the meal and eat with my mom.  I'll rearrange her appointments so she doesn't have to go anywhere.  Beyond that, she just needs minor things around the house -- watering the grass, feeding the turtles,  checking the mail, etc.  I'm just crossing my fingers that she'll pull through her colonoscopy tomorrow without any complications or anything of concern.  

    marianna, thanks for the moral support.  ...that's pretty much how all this started.  My ex sister in law and I still keep in contact, and she's the one who first said "you should GO!"  And here I am, ticket in hand, and zero budget, but I'll rummage that up somehow too.  

    Designermom has pm'd me several times already and is my personal nyc travel mentor.  Thanks DM!  

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 4,503
    edited September 2011

    Althea I was wondering cause I did not think her mom could make it.  glad you got it worked out with friends.  It is amazing what food bribery can do. haha  I hope everything goes well tomoroow with the colonoscopy.  You are going to have an amazing time.

  • Kaara
    Kaara Member Posts: 2,101
    edited September 2011

    Sherry:  Last year I went to a private doctor that specializes in bioidentical hormones.  He ran blood and saliva tests and I ended up low in Vitamin D-3, progestrone, and DHEA.  He put me on a high dose of Vitamin D (5,000 mg), and low levels of the rest.  He also gave me an additional pill to take to stimulate my thyroid which was not functioning properly on just the Synthroid.  I can honestly say that six months later I feel better and have more energy than I've had in a long, long time!  Did I mention that I'm 71 years young?  I had been asking my PCP for years about my thyroid and why I was tired and losing my hair and they just said "you're getting old...live with it".  Not acceptable.

    Now, unfortunately, I'm facing a possible BC diagnosis, and hope that I won't have to give all this up to get better.  I do not want to do chemo as I've seen what it's done to my friends, and they are not alive today.  I might do radiation, but definitely not chemo. 

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 4,503
    edited September 2011

    Kaara so sorry you are facing a possible diag. I'll pray that everything comes out B9.  I did make an appt with an endocronogist and will see what they do as far as testing.  I really want my adrenal glands checked as that can cause low testosterone.  Otherwise I will head to the Dr for the bioidentical hormones and see what she has to say.