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  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Member Posts: 8,213
    edited January 2010

    Fortunate, you are the most upbeat person I've ever known, and I feel like I've gotten to know you.  To describe a day like you had yesterday and not be in tears, that takes a strong character.  I'm glad your onc is looking after your health and all fingers and toes are crossed that nothing is wrong.  You'll feel so good getting a clean bill of health.

    Shoshi, you sound better.  Hope you soon start feeling good.

    Ann, how are you today?

    Mantra, I'm glad you dropped in and shared with us.  Best of luck with your upcoming surgery.  You seem to be well-informed and in control.  Let us know how everything turns out.

    NewBride, you should be appreciative of your PS's honesty.  My PS didn't tell me that this one-step was really "one step at a time," and I'm sure he knew that in advance from his experience with other patients.  You, too, sound very ready to have your surgery.  I didn't know nearly as much as you when my dh drove me to the surgery facility on BMX day. 

    About the compression band, which has been mentioned quite a few times.  My PS never mentioned a compression band, and it seems as though I might have benefitted from using one to encourage the higher right implant to settle lower. 

    About wearing a bra after surgery.   I woke up in the recovery room wearing a stretchy cotton bra.  My instructions were to wear this bra 24 hrs a day for 6 wks.  I was given permission to wear a cotton sports bra with front closure during the times the other bra was being laundered.  I was NOT to wear any other bra and especially not a bra that would lift the breasts.  For several weeks I labored under the mistaken conviction that the stretchy bra and the cotton sports bra were much too tight.  Finally I realized neither bra was tight.  My pecs were stretched tight.  They're still somewhat tight at 5 mos, but not uncomfortably so.

    This PS says this.  That PS says that.  There is such variation in protocol.

    Yesterday was a really nice day.  I took a 30-min. golf lesson, then hit balls on the driving range with dh.  We played nine holes and walked.  It was sunny and cool, in the low 50's.  Quite comfortable and enjoyable.  Today I participated in a ladies golf event followed by a luncheon.  The food was too enticing.  WW wouldn't have approved of my plate.  Yikes, I even had dessert.  Back on the wagon tomorrow.

    Bought some plump lamb shanks at Fresh Market.  Dh's assignment is to cook braised lamb shanks tomorrow.  His kind of one-pot meal.  We are not crockpot cookers.  We prefer to simmer concoctions on the stove or use the oven.  Maybe if I had a better crockpot, I would become fond of it.  Mine is one of the multi-cooking kettles that serves as a crockpot with a crockery liner.  It can be used without the liner for frying or faster braising. 

    Dh cooked stuffed Portobello mushrooms last night, using a stuffing with ricotta cheese, spinach, artichoke hearts, garlic and other seasonings.  It was quite good.  The night before he cooked a Caesar shrimp dish that was also tasty. 

    I've branched out with my breadmaking (electric breadmaker) and am using a variety of recipes, one with whole-grain cereal, another with cracked wheat, another with oatmeal and walnuts.  I use some stone-ground wheat flour but you have to use some lighter flours, too, or the loaves turn out 4 in long!

    Hope everyone has a relaxed evening.

  • AnnL
    AnnL Member Posts: 22
    edited January 2010

    NewBride, you do seem well prepared.  Now I bet you just want to get it over with!  Before my surgery, I got myself some new Ariat fatbaby boots, with pink on the tops, and I made myself not wear them until after the surgery.  I love them, and I loved pulling them on the day after surgery to go home in.  I also got myself a very snuggy electric throw, which I forbade myself to use until after the surgery.  Did you get any little rewards for yourself?  By the way, I ride hunter/jumper not dressage.  The avatar picture is from an under saddle class.  I am not as brave as you to do cross country though.

    I am doing great.  I drove and did errands yesterday, and today, I got all dressed up to go to a funeral.  I hid my one remaining drain under my dress and jacket.  I am wearing a fairly tight close front sports bra some of the time, braless some of the time, and a compression band some of the time.  I see my PS tomorrow, and will get my other drain removed.  It was only 22 cc the last 24 hour period.  I am on no medication at all now.  No need, the muscle over the implant is tight but I would call the feeling "strange" rather than painful.  I feel like I just need to get used to my new little breast.  It is taking a pretty good shape, other than being flat on top.  I don't care -- once I have a bra on, everything looks fine.  I will have questions for the PS about what to do and not do.  I will report tomorrow after I go. 

    How did you guys post the surgery type in your signature?  I looked all over the profile pages and did not see a way to do that.

  • NewBride
    NewBride Member Posts: 126
    edited January 2010

    AnnL,  Funny you should mention rewards.  When I moved from AZ to CA five years ago I had to leave my last horse behind.  She was 22 and had lived her whole life with me in the desert.  I live in the mountains now and it is a much different environment.  I wasn't sure about shipping her that far or how well she would adjust so now she is a companion horse for a nice lady in AZ.  Anyway, after this is all over, I think I may start looking for another horse.

    Carole, Yes, I am grateful that my PS is honest with me about revisions.  Thanks to the posts from you and the other ladies here it doesn't come as a shock to me.  And I think that I actually agree with him.  It just would have been nice to get it all over and done with if I could.

    Shoshi,  I think I will also use a lanyard for my drain.  I certainly have enough of them.  Did you get yours from your DH? And is Valium actually helping to relax your tight pec muscles?
    Diagnosis: 10/27/2009, DCIS, Grade 3, ER+/PR-

  • ally1423
    ally1423 Member Posts: 183
    edited January 2010

    fortunate1....what a day!....just curious....did you have any biopsies on your good side?...hopefully your onc. is being ultra cautious.....the radiologist who read your mamo in november didn't mention anything to you. we'll be thinking of you tomorrow, and let's hope the ultrasound is ok....no biopsies is a good sign already. AnnL...glad you're feeling so well. meg..how is your shoulder?  Carole...dinner at your house sounds delicious.  i've been very dilligent with massaging 2x daily.....it really helps. okie are you still experiencing the pins and needles pain?....i'm happy your garden survived. someone on this site pm'd me that my ps was just on ch.2 news/newyork explaining the one step alloderm procedure. i viewed the tape online, and sure enough there he was with an animated tape explaining the procedure along with a patient that had the procedure done....

  • upcreek
    upcreek Member Posts: 157
    edited January 2010

    Good Morning Ladies!  Thanks to Okiegal, Meg9 and NewBride for all the prayers and will keep you posted.

    Fortunate1:  I think we all feel for you.  Visions of anxiety are going through my head.  Please let us know and we will say a prayer for you too. 

    Physio today and I hope to graduate from it by the end of next week. 

  • okiegal
    okiegal Member Posts: 333
    edited January 2010

    Fortunate1, what a day! I'll be thinking of you and looking forward to a report. I join you and everyone in hoping that it is nothing. A little hug for you!

    Umm, Carole are we invited over for dinner? If not, I'll head over to Meg9's house!

    AnnL, what a wonderful idea to buy yourself treats for after surgery...something to look forward to and a guarantee that an extra person will be nice to you. I bought myself some cute flipflops before surgery so that I wouldn't have to struggle with shoes and I was generally nice to myself before surgery, especially the day before. Lot's of encouraging "self talk" and comforting words. I made myself take deep breaths and counted my blessings. And I have to say it again, you are such an inspiration!

    NewBride, you might try to whine or pressure your PS or BS about the muscle relaxers a little more. I'm sure Valium will have some affect, but a muscle relaxer would be more effective, have fewer emotional side effects and I'm guessing, be less addictive? Could you tell them that you are afraid of or don't like taking Valium? My PS was really good about prescribing pain meds and everything else. He doesn't like to get lots of upsetting phone calls. Some docs are afraid to overdo it for a variety of reasons, plus eventhough they do reconstruction work (with expanders), most of their breast patients are probably in for augmentation or reduction. I agree that this might be giving them an unrealistic idea of what you might experience.

    I called my BS for a pain referral in Dec. and finally received a call from them yesterday with an appointment if for March 1. It's a good thing my pins and needles are bearable! They are better, but I still have them. I want my strange pain sensations and the phantom itching to go away completely. I've been doing massage every day again and they seem to have faded, but it may be a coincidence.

    Shoshi and everyone else, hope you are all doing better, well and have a nice day.

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Member Posts: 8,213
    edited January 2010

    I was nice to myself at the jewelry store in Dec.  Smile

    No sunshine so far today, but milder temp. this morning.  High in 60's today.  Tomorrow I'm bypassing my golf game to sub in a league tennis match.  Team made up of old tennis buddies.  Should be interesting.  Haven't picked up a tennis racket in over a year.  Actually since the last time I subbed.  Hope I don't injure myself. 

    Off to the town of Ponchatoula today to take my mom to her hair apptment and grocery shopping.  She's handicapped but can walk a short distance with a walker.  In the supermarket she used a motorized scooter.  Watch out for those obstructions in the aisles!  She never drove a car and doesn't quite get the brake concept!

    Wishing everyone good news today, especially Fortunate.

  • Meg9
    Meg9 Member Posts: 306
    edited January 2010

    Ally, after reading your post, I viewed the news clip on the one stepon-line also. I'm surprised the one step is still considered a new procedure. Also, I was surprised that 70% of women who have mx choose not to have reconstruction.  I found the animated clip of the procedure clear to understanding what happens. I wish my PS showed me that clip before bmx!

    The ex-rays of my shoulder and chest came back OK. Tomorrow morning I have an appointment with my girlfriend who is a chiropractor.  She uses a non force technique - Applied Kineslology.  She helped me with pain issues before and I think she will help with this shoulder/back pain. I still have a problem with my left arm. I think it is nerve damage from mx. If I lift a 3lb weight to do a bicep exercise...as my hand moves down, my arm trembles.  The first time I experienced this was over the summer when I carried a beach chair from the car to the beach. When I put the chair down, my arm started to twitch. It was not just a feeling...the twitching was visible.  Now, I feel the tremble, but it's not as visible. When I told this to my PS months ago, she explained that a nerve to the arm is cut during mx and takes time to heal.  Also, the muscle over my left breast to my shoulder is tight. I'm not sure what to do to loosen it up. I'm thinking this may have something to do with the pain in my back. Hopefully, I will get some answers tomorrow.

    Fortunate1, Thinking of you today and sending (((hugs))).

    Carole, Yum, Yum....Lucky girlfriend!  Send your DH to my house! Have fun playing tennis..the unstoppable Carole!

    I didn't buy myself treats before surgery...just necessary purchases (soft button down shirts, loose, elastic waist pants, sports bras, pillows, etc)  to make myself comfortable while recuperating. The day I came home from the hospital my DH gave me a beautiful multi-gem necklace that matches a bracelet I wear most of the time. My sister had a gift basket made for me...Victoria Secret bra size B, matching undies in pink, pink summer robe, lotions and a pink rose. It was on my bed.   My PS and her staff sent me a house plant (dish with 5 plants) with a pink rose and bow in it!

    The sun is shinning and the temperature will finally go above freezing...39! A heat wave! We still have snow on the ground!

  • I_am_OK
    I_am_OK Member Posts: 55
    edited January 2010

    Hello ladies! 

    Fortunate1, I'll be thinking of you today, best of luck!

    Carole, you are right, every PS has his/her own instructions. I was told to wear surgical bra 24 hrs a day for 3 weeks, after that she said I can wear any comfortable bra or be braless. About shower, I was told not to take while my drain was in. Compression band, PS gave it to me at week 10, I used it for about two weeks and was wery pleased with results.

    I had BS appt yesterday (3 months after surgery). She said I am healing very nicely, she checked my good breast and lymph nodes. I complained I feel some discomfort in upper pec muscle area after exercising, especially after weight lifting (only 5 lbs). She said it is normal for now. I'll see her in 6 months after  my mammo for good side.

    Have a great day everyone!

  • fortunate1
    fortunate1 Member Posts: 467
    edited January 2010

    Hello everyone. The ultrasound is done and I am fine. They did not find anything that they could biopsy. Since they work from the ultrasound image, if they can't see it they can't biopsy it. That sounds great! But, I don't know what the Onc's reaction will be, since he will still be able to feel whatever it is. The only suggestion that the breast center doc had was that perhaps there could be a biopsy done by a surgeon who could locate it by feel and then biopsy it. I'll call the Onc and find out if we're OK or if he still wants more.

    So, I don't know if I've had the best of luck or am still in for more questions. I can't tell you how dear you all are to be thinking of me.

    I am all for the treats. Mine before surgery was a new bathrobe, dark red and very warm. I have since resolved to do more nice things for myself. Life can be short, why should I dither over buying a pair of shoes or whatever? My biggest treat was the people who came to see me after surgery, showing me that I was valued more than I could ever have known. I was stunned. The house was like a florist's shop.

    Mantra, how are you? Anyone hear from Tracy? Or Wendy? 

    Meg, where did you find the animation? I poked around on the internet and found... us! Gave me the creeps, but you all are worth it.

  • AnnL
    AnnL Member Posts: 22
    edited January 2010

    fortunate1, that sounds good to me!  I heard an expression the other day, that "tests beget more tests" and I think that is true! 

    NewBride, you get that horse!  Then we can talk horse on the Chronicle forum!

    I am lucky lucky lucky.  Saw my PS today (9 days post surgery), and he said everything looks great.  He said "see how it is dropping and softening?" so he seems happy.  He took the other drain out, which was no big deal.  He told me to keep wearing the compression band 8 hours a day under my arms to push down on the implant.  As far as activity, he basically said if it hurts, don't do it, but I know I will be conservative because I sure don't want to mess things up now.  He said the alloderm stitches are dissolving and take 5 - 6 weeks to dissolve.  The breast stitches take about 10 days.  He peeled some of the glue or whatever it is off the mastectomy incision, and some of it off the good breast incisions.  They seem to be healing fine, and he said to put (uh oh, I forgot...coconut butter?) on them twice a day.  Any recommendations there?

    I thougth of something else that might have helped me have such an easy time.  I drink lots of water, well actually, organic fruit juice or those V-fusion drinks diluted with water about 1 juice to 3 water.  I think that is important to overall health, and before and after surgery I made sure I did not get dehydrated.

    In the horse world, we give each other and our horses "jingles" when we or they are sick.... so here's "jingles" for us all!

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Member Posts: 8,213
    edited January 2010

    Wonderful report on your ultrasound, Fortunate.  Good news from you, too, I Am Ok.  You and Ann are our poster girls for quick recovery. 

    Ann and NewBride, feel free to talk to us about horses.  We're interested in the "well" side of life as well as dealing with bc.  After some urging, Fortunate has posted some pics of her beautiful pottery.  Okiegal has shared some good recipes.  Meg described her lovely old church.  Etc.  So what are jingles?

    Meg, what a sweet Dh you have to greet you with such a beautiful and thoughtful gift on your arrival home from the hospital. 

    If you don't hear from me in a while, you'll know I injured both hands and possibly other body parts playing tennis tomorrow! 

    Hope everyone has a good evening. 

  • ally1423
    ally1423 Member Posts: 183
    edited January 2010

    good news so far fortunate1.....i guess we'll see what the onc. says. meg....i think all your symptoms are related to b/l mx, if you didn't have those problems before. happy the xrays are ok and you have your chiropractor friend to help you. okie ..pins and needles.. would be unbearable for me too....keep massaging...see what happens...can't hurt.....i've exercised with 5lb weights regularly for several years, and i don't see myself doing that for a very long time.i lifted a big pot of spagetti the other night and i had pain the next day.....as much as i'd like to do all the things i used to do.....that won't be happening for awhile....grateful that i can do most everything except lifting....and i hate that seatbelt.....meg i wish my ps showed me that animated clip too. i'm going to mention it to him next week at my visit....it was simple, but explained the procedure, at least  regarding the reconstruction....i-am-ok glad you are feeling well and had a good check up. you too AnnL...it sounds like you are doing great.....upcreek.....let's hope your friend gets through everything and does well,

  • Meg9
    Meg9 Member Posts: 306
    edited January 2010

    Fortunate1, How long before you can see the oc and but this behind you!   It's good your getting this thoroughly checked out...peace of mind.

    I am OK, Is it 3 months already! Glad to hear you had a good appointment.  Has anyone heard of someone who had the one step and is ok lifting weights using their pec muscles?  I'm beginning to think this is an ongoing problem.

    Ann, Great that you are doing so well! It was at 6 weeks when my PS finally said no more bra and ok to massage. Now that I know how long it takes for the interior stitches to dissolve, I'm glad I waited! Thanks for the info...we are still learning!

    Carole, I'm sure you'll comes back in one piece!

    I hope everyone else is doing well.

  • Bigapple09
    Bigapple09 Member Posts: 247
    edited January 2010

    Hi Fortunate,and everyone:

    I'm here, busy week with work. I think everyone's New year resolution was to call their lawyer and find out if they need to do anything new with the shift in the estate tax/ capital gain tax laws.

    What a scary thing to hear from your doctor and to not have a clear direction, I always think we should each get a cancer concierge to get everything sorted out for us. I am glad the US was clear, any word on when the doctor will have an answer as to what should be done on the biopsy?

     I have all my stitches out, there is still a spot that is open on the  incision from where they removed the implant.I am hoping that it heals soon. I have my follow up for 2/3/10 hopefully we can schedule the surgery to put me back together. I don't know if the incision still being open will be a problem or not since they think they will take some skin from the bottom of my stomach since the rads skin is so tight and thin.

    On the upside of things i am down 10 pounds from a month ago, so hopefully I'll drop at least another 5 and be back to my fighting weight.

    I have this fear that if I am not in good shape when they do the surgery and they take fat from my stomach to supplement the rads boobie and then I lose weight I'll wind up lopsided.

    I had my ovarian screening yesterday and everything still looks good. I will be consulting with a surgeon on whether they can remove my ovaries at the same time as the reconstruction. My Dr. likes to remind me that I am (at 44) the oldest BRCA I carrier he has who still has their ovaries, so I think its probably time, besides.So its a big crazy week.

  • fortunate1
    fortunate1 Member Posts: 467
    edited January 2010

    Hi everyone, I got a call from my onc himself yesterday evening, so nice. I told him the details and he said we'll just keep an eye on it, no more pushing for a biopsy. Good news. It will take a while before I have that lovely sense of safety again, but that's just an illusion anyway. Is it the same with you all? I suppose cancer can always threaten us now. Next onc visit in three months.

    Wendy, what a lovely photo, you're dazzling. It sounds like your docs are considering your situation carefully, not just charging ahead. I think that if they take skin and fat from your abdomen they take it from both sides to keep you symmetrical and then just use what they need. That would be quite a surgery. Are you on Tamoxifen or an AI?

    My weight is back down to my 9# loss and I hope to ever so slowly creep down farther. Since my reconstruction is small, maybe I can shrink the rest of me to match. It's not much, but I feel so sleek.

    I'm off to take a walk. I am completely missing the "sports gene". I simply must get in the habit of walking daily. If I don't want to have my bones crumble I have to change. I told myself this morning that I should give myself the treat of checking in with all of you AFTER a walk, but here I am.

  • Meg9
    Meg9 Member Posts: 306
    edited January 2010

    Fortunate, great news! Good to know your oc is on top of things. What a relief!

    Wendy, I agree with fortunate1 you are so pretty and young. My heart goes out to you. You have been through so much and have such a great attitude. I found that when we are in these situations there is not much we can do but get through it the best we can. You are very well informed and I wish you the best. All finger and toes are crossed and prayers too. One day this will all be behind you.

    I had my visit with my friend/chiropractor this morning. She said I had two vertebrae touching. It is not uncommon that this happens with all the manipulation our bodies go throw while they position us during surgery. She really expected my ribs to be out of whack, but they were ok. She tested the strength in my left arm...the one that trembles when I hold any weight.   My arms and pec muscles are very weak. After she adjusted me, she tested again and there was an improvement.  Too soon after an adjustment to try lifting weights, but the pain in my shoulder is feeling better then it was. These two vertebrae were also causing the muscle above my breast to my shoulder to be tight. I could see it actually pulling. What ever she did....the muscle is definitely not as tight. I hope it lasts. I didn't make another appointment...she said to wait and see how I feel.

    The sun is shining and it is finally warmer today..in the 40's. It feels like spring!

    Stay well everybody and have a good weekend!

  • Tinkerbell99
    Tinkerbell99 Member Posts: 193
    edited January 2010

    Hi Laies, the lanyard that i wear 24/7 fot my stuip drains my DH had. it"s a string w/ a hook on the bottom that you would hook ur keys too.   I am extremley klutsy normally buy my whole balance is so off.  The PS took out 1 drain & did i scream like Hell.  Any suggestions for the next 3? As much as i feel better thhen i did when i woke up from surgery. I canreach for things in short distances.  My oec muscles huert as well as where  the drans are. it is very painful.  The valium helps.  My Dr feels thst is relaces ur muscles as well as ur body.  I still havent figured this out. lol   i am having a lot  of pain on the rioght side of my lower part of my back. The area i think it may b is kidney area but i am no dr.  When i said something in the hospital they said its b/c of how i a, sleeping in a recliner. my ps said a lot of ppl have pain in their back b/c of muscles they r using.  Neither of the answers satify me...next week i go to BS & if i still have this i will demand something done.  my rt breat hurts a hell of a lot more then my left but my left side w/ both drains in hurt like hell,

    so sorry for all myy complaing: NEW BRIDE & anyone else getting ready for surgery, have shampoo that has a pump b/c it wiill be hsrd to lift & squeeze. Also  a shower bench so u cna sit, makessss lig=fe easeir.

    hope u all have  agreAT WEEKEND & Ann i am very jealous of u.  :-)

  • okiegal
    okiegal Member Posts: 333
    edited January 2010

    Hi all,

    Shoshi, it's good to hear from you! I am so sorry that you are in so much pain. Most of us don't have to deal with that much. Your post reminded me that after my surgery it was easier to take a shower with one of those removeable spay nozzles....a tip for anyone that may need it. Is there a master list of these tips on BCO? A presurgery knowledge base?

    Wendy, good for you. Sounds like everything is moving along and, of course, it's always delightful to be closing in on one's "fighting weight". Yours is a valid concern. I've read that DIEP reconstructions swell and shrink with weight gain and loss, so why not other areas that are operated on? However, I'm sure if there is anything uneven about your finished results, a PS would be happy to fix it....for a fee...and with another procedure. You look very warm in your pink picture!

    Meg9, glad to hear you are getting some relief. I hope your friends' work does the trick.

    Fortunate1, great news! I kept reminding myself, before my first biopsy that the statistics were factually in my favor, not the other way around. Of course, I turned out to be one of the few...but it sure helped put my head in the right place. I'm sure you will get there too.

    I too have begun exercising, lifting weights and doing sit ups again. I even added some push ups today. Surprisingly, my tingles seem to have abated over the last 5 days or so. Was I "scared straight" by the looming March 1 appointment with the pain management doctor? Or is it the B-complex I began taking a few weeks ago? Perhaps it's the massage or the Neurontin? Who knows, but I'm happy to be feeling more normal and I am hoping I have passed some sort of invisiable milestone and will not return to the land of tingles!

    Plenty of rest and healing wishes to those who are recovering. Hope everyone has a good weekend. 

  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Member Posts: 8,213
    edited January 2010

    Wendy, I must add my compliments.  You look young and fresh and pretty in your photo.  Congrats on the weight loss.  I'm envious.  I ate a big juicy hamburger with sweet potato fries for lunch with the other tennis ladies.  If that wasn't bad enough, I stopped on the way home and bought a king cake, traditional type of coffee cake shaped in a ring that is available at every supermarket and bakery throughout the Mardi Gras season.  The cakes are decorated with purple, green, and gold sprinkled sugar and can either be plain with cinnamon or filled with various gooey delicious fillings.  This one is filled with cream cheese.  There's always a little plastic baby hidden in the cake.  Whoever gets the baby in their slice is supposed to buy the next king cake! 

    Shoshi, you are having a painful recovery.  I'm so sorry.  As time goes on, things will get better.  Eventually the discomfort will all be a distant memory.  Never apologize for complaining.

    Fortunate, have you been able to get back to making your pottery?  I assume you have a stomach incision where the dr. extracted fat tissue for filler.

    Meg, I used to go to a chiropractor quite a few years back when I was hard at work being a writer.  The long days at the computer gave me a lot of tension in my shoulders and neck.  The hot sand bags helped.  I think chiropractors have gained some respectability in the medical world. 

    I enjoyed my tennis today and didn't  pull any muscles or suffer injury.  It was especially nice to visit with long-time friends who have stuck with tennis instead of switching to golf, as I did.  I didn't experience any pain or discomfort from using the pec muscles.  I did get nervous a couple of times when an opponent sent a hard shot straight at me when I was at the net.  It occurred to me that being hit in the chest might not be good!

    Okiegal, what are you up to these days?  Is the redecorating done? 

    Hi to everyone else not mentioned by name.  Hope you enjoyed your day.

  • upcreek
    upcreek Member Posts: 157
    edited January 2010

    Great news Fortunate 1.  Shoshi, it will get better.  I'm six weeks post-op now and the tightness has relaxed greatly and am walking and doing weights up to 5 lbs.  Ann, you are amazing, Carole, I want a piece of cake, Okiegal, I hope the pain is behind you. BigApple, your picture is great. Meg9, I hope your muscles stay relaxed.  Hi to everyone else and have a great weekend.

  • upcreek
    upcreek Member Posts: 157
    edited January 2010

    I forgot one thing:  Does anyone know if push-ups are allowed with implants?  I have heard different opinions. Tx

  • fortunate1
    fortunate1 Member Posts: 467
    edited January 2010

    I can see that you all will be a big inspiration for me to get more exercise. Okiegal, I'm so glad to hear than the pins and needles have abated. That is such great news. Shoshi, my PS took out a smaller easier drain first. The other larger one was a big shock, but so fast that I didn't have time to react before it was all over. I guess you'll just have to concentrate on how good it will be to not drag drains and tubes around any more. It will get better before you know it. Complain away, lots of understanding here.

    Carole, I want to scoot up, put my feet under your table, have shrimp for dinner and then king cake.  Some day I will visit your part of the country, it sounds wonderful. I haven't done much in the studio. Soon. The incisions in my tummy are little puncture wounds, healing well and itchy. No muscle problems, just laziness. 

  • ally1423
    ally1423 Member Posts: 183
    edited January 2010

    hello ladies....wendy...glad you are infection free, on the mend, and looking forward to reconstruction.....shoshi...great to hear from you.....we've been thinking about you. from one low tolerance for pain sister to another...all i can say is that it really does get better each day, and then before you know it you feel like yourself again....fortunate1 ....good news all around for you. okie....so glad what ever you are doing is working really well for you.....even exercising.....i look forward to that....upcreek 5lb wts...that's amazing....i couldn't possibly do that now.....carole, thanks for the inspiration.....playing tennis....i look forward to that too. meg...it looks like your chiropractor friend fixed you up pretty good. as for me.....not exercising yet. incredibly busy at work....exhausted when i get home and massaging 2x daily has become my new medicine. i can't complain...i feel pretty good....and i think i like my new foobs now.....getting used to them, and i wore a bra for 2hrs today. i thought i'd break in slowly....it's just so comfortable without one, but it limits what shirts i can wear.....3 day weekend coming up....i just plan to take it easy, not over do it, and enjoy feeling good.

  • Bigapple09
    Bigapple09 Member Posts: 247
    edited January 2010

    carolehalston

    Thank you, I'm jealous that you got to publish, my only published writings are legal, and I don't get paid for that: (. One of my LA friends sends out King Cakes every year, but the ones he sends don't sound half as yummy as the one you bought.

    okiegal

    Thank you, I so hope that this will be the last surgery, I feel like I get a little dumber each time I go under, at least for a few weeks after. Are you coming to the NY dinner? If I asked before I apologize, my ST memory is still a little weird following the last surgery. On the upside, it makes me easy to entertain.

    Shoshi

    I took a pain pill before the drains were taken out when I had the BMX in march, the first drain did hurt, but when they took out the last drain, it really was no big deal, I think it was because everything was less sore. When I had the drain out in December, it did not hurt at all. I really hated my drains, the right one was miserable and caused me so much pain. The pain could be a UTI or a kidney infection, they place a catheter during the surgery and sometimes you can get a UTI following a catheter placement. Ask the Dr. to run a urinalysis. YOU ARE ALLOWED TO COMPLAIN, it is your right, you have just been through a big deal and your body hurts so go a head a kvetch, and don't feel bad.

    Meg9 Thank you so much, young at almost 45, I'll take it!!!! After what you wrote, I am thinking, once they put my stuffing back in, I might visit a chiro, My shoulder on the SNB side has had some issues since the surgery, it clicks and pops, I feel like it was stretched out of line for too long.

    fortunate1 Thank you so much. I took Tam from 2003 through the summer of 2008, and six months later I had the wonky MRI that set off this whole other journey.  I think they will have to take the fat from both sides to get enough. Back when this leg of the journey started my docs had said there was not enough there for two, maybe for one, I'm not sure if it will be enough on its own or if an implant will still be needed to make it match the left side. Its funny I hated those 410(s) so much, but now that the right one is out I don't hate the left one, its not as soft as I would like, but it is not nearly as tight or hard as it was when the right one was in. I am so glad that your Onc has gotten you back to a good place. I got on the scale this morning and I lost more, so I am starting to get very excited, I am going back to spin class on Sunday, so hopefully I can keep this up. The lance Armstrong Foundation has a cool part of the web site called the daily plate. You can track your food, your exercise, and your weight. It has a huge data base of food and you can enter stuff they don't have. And there is an iPhone App, so I can keep track out of the house also.

    upcreek Thank you so much for the compliment.

    I think I got everyone, if I missed someone I am sorry.

  • I_am_OK
    I_am_OK Member Posts: 55
    edited January 2010

    Hello ladies! 

    fortunate1, Meg, okiegal,  I am glad you all have such good news.

    Wendy, you look great, and you are really young, only 44. I hope you and your doctor will be able to find right decision for you, good luck!

    Shoshi, as everyone told you, each day you will feel better.

    AnnL, I think you PS meant  cocoa butter or cocoa butter cream. I used cocoa butter cream first, then I bought MEDERMA, special gel for scars, kind of expensive, but it works great.

    upcreek, sounds you are recovering very well. I have not heard anything wrong about push-ups, if you can find wireless push-up, why not .

    Ally, keep trying you bra, you'll feel better in some time. I've bought two new GILLY HICKS wireless bras online, they are very comfortable and look more sexy than comfortable WARNER'S I had, so happy.

    Everyone have a good long weekend!

  • upcreek
    upcreek Member Posts: 157
    edited January 2010

    So sorry--I meant "push-ups" as in exercise.  Are they allowed?

  • Bigapple09
    Bigapple09 Member Posts: 247
    edited January 2010

    UpCreek:

    I was told not to do anything that put more than 5lb of stress on the chest muscles. Both the PT and the PS said that developing the chest muscle could displace the implant. So the push ups were a no no. Your Dr may have a different thought on it.

  • okiegal
    okiegal Member Posts: 333
    edited January 2010

    Uh, oh. I did some push ups yesterday. I didn't recieve any precautions about exercise except within the first several weeks. I don't remember if I asked about anything specifically. I was doing some research online about muscle strength and implants and found a website by a female body builder. Apparently a lot of them get implants (cetainly not as big as ours), but she was talking about lifting quite a bit of weight and working out the pec area. She had returned to her normal lifting, if I remember correctly. While we may not want to become body builders, I don't understand the precaution to "not build up the pec muscles". Does anybody understand this better? I want to be as strong as before and in even better shape.

    Wendy, I haven't been invited to the NY dinner (sniff, sniff)....I'm in Oklahoma. Did you mean to ask Ally1423? Where are you going to be eating? I'm already jealous...the restuarants here are pretty awful overall. Carole, King cakes are so much fun! I'm doing about as well with my weight loss attempts as you. I must work harder at this. It isn't going to happen otherwise!

  • upcreek
    upcreek Member Posts: 157
    edited January 2010

    Thanks BigApple.  Okiegal--maybe we should all go to NYC when it's warmer!