MIDDLE-AGED WOMEN 40-60ish
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Barbe, To clarify, yes, I was asking if your doc found the CTCs from doing a blood draw. When you replied that it was found via tissue samples, I was saying that I think (in U.S.) it is usually just seen on the reports as vascular invasion (or lymphovascular invasion.) Probably the same thing you are talking about, just using a different terminology.
Yes, I do know there are blood tests that look for CTCs (and I mentioned my doctor did not seem receptive to doing one on me.) I know they monitor a certain ratio of CTCs per certain amt. of blood. I do not know if the CTCs contribute to any of the tumor marker antigens currently followed by MOs.
And Barbe, I have heard the same as you have, that "everyone" has some CTCs. Without you ever having had the blood test, and with knowing that our bodies do try to eradicate these CTCs from the blood, it is possible that your CTCs are in ratio considered to be normal at this point (this far out from your Dx.) If you ever do get a CTC blood test, I'd be interested to hear about it.
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e, I agree about ratios and that's another reason I don't get strung out on the fact. But remember, CTCs aren't the same as the fact that we ALL have rogue cells that can turn against us at any point. CTCs are active cells, not sleepers. I'm sure a high ratio of us have them, whether we have cancer or not, though. That's another reason they don't do the blood work on them. For all we know, "tumour markers" and CTCs are the same thing!! I don't know what the blood test required to test for them is known as.
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Nope, TMs and CTCs are not the same.
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momine, i keep meaning to ask you, but in your avatar, do you know who the painter was? cause really small like that, it kinda looks like, er, um, tits on a platter...
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Kathec, it IS tits on a platter
It is painting by one of my "boy friends" - Zurbaran - whose paintings were love at first sight for me.The painting depicts Saint Agatha, who had her boobs cut off as a form of torture.
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How great is that! im gonna go look at the link now! was aware of saint agatha, but have never seen a painting. they do look rather bloodless and perky though.. at least in less than one square inch. Thanks.
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I'm having a lovely day prepping for a follow-up colonoscopy. It is just as fun as I remember it being. I'm hungry too. The only good thing about today is that my husband was making some soup stock for another meal, so I got to drink homemade clear broth. The really bad thing is that this is a two part prep,with part two taking place at 2 a.m. Who devises this torture?
Don't need anyone along tomorrow. I don't expect there to be one speck of CRC in there, and it's one long, boring morning. Of course, if you do stow away in a pocket, you might witness my alien abduction (whereas I will be having my propofol nap until they return me.) The request I have is...when I get back (noonish) I hope to see a lot of food delicacies on this thread. I'm planning to pop a probiotic when I wake up and then eat a light and nutritious meal at home to be kind to my empty tummy. (How I have matured from the days when I would just get a take out burrito on the way home!) But I can have ALL KINDS of virtual food. Just remember, it's all about the presentation.
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Eli, we are on it
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kathe, good call on the tits on a plate!!!! I've always admired the painting in Momine's avatar, but never noticed the plate...
e, I always go for a cheeseburger after a scope like that. Don't know why I do as I never eat them otherwise! Not sure what kind of healthy food you're looking for so I'll see what the others post for you. (Don't know if you're kidding or not...)
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I am picture challenged these days. I cannot resize or make them side-by-side. Even with that I think this is a good representation of yummies. Sweet things and fruit if your feeling saintly Eli. Wishing you only pleasant sleep during the colo. and excellent negativo results. Let us know soonest. In your pocket.
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Though Barbe I must admit that even at 9:40 in the morning a gooey cheeseburger sounds excellent.
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how about:
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or: homemade chicken/kale/carrot/celery/leek soup?
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A little baklava:
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Frito Misto:
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We need a salad:
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A little pasta:
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Hi, guys! Oh! Look at my smorgasboard of delights!!! If only the cyber-fairy could make them all real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reality was not nearly as good. I did have apple juice and a couple crackers at the place when I woke up but, Kathec, you are on my wavelength because I had a banana (for potassium) when I got home. Then, a short nap.
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told you about the horrid "prep part. 2" already, the prep you do at 2
a.m. Found out why now...They have discovered that if you complete your
prep the night before, that you will still get a lot of "sticky bile"
up in the ascending colon and that makes it harder to visualize that
segment. So, part 2 clears that out closer to procedure time. All with
upcoming c-scope procedures will no doubt enjoy this new way of doing
things as much as I did (because it kept me awake from 2 a.m. to 5 a.m.)The whole rest of the deal was same ol', same ol' (same aliens, everything) and
NOT A SPECK of CRC to be seen. While that is fabulous news, in the
case of my CRC and treatment, local recurrence is not as much a worry as
a distant recurrence is. Now must face a CT sometime in the next few
mos. to see if my liver has welcomed any visitors or not. I have a
pretty cool liver, so I think it will be fine.Now, lets get back
to yummifying. I love kale in soup. I'd eat that in a heartbeat. (I
did actually have some homemade cream of tomato soup for lunch.) I wish
I had a nice fruitbowl to snack on all afternoon, luv. I can't wait for summer fruit season because I don't buy too much out of season (no offense my Chilean sistahs.) Momine,
you have set out a feast! That is pretty highbrow, pasta with caviar.
Have not tried that. I don't even know what Frito Misto is, but I see
octopus and squid in it so give it a squeeze of lemon and send it my
way. I am torn between one of luv's parfaits and the baklava for
dessert, which makes the virtual dining so great because I can have both.Thanks for all the delicious dishes. I feel so much better now.
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And there's still room for a serving of Cheetos from the Cheetos cheese wheel...
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p.s. Forgot to mention that my surgeon's first comment to my husband (while I was still out of it) was that the bowel segment he connected together looked good. Always tooting their own horns, aren't they?
p.p.s. I love my doc. He saved my life.
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Eli, I am so glad it was all clear in there
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Eli - Doc sounds like a keeper. My unsophisticated tastes did not even recognize caviar. I knew the Frito Misto had seafood in it but only with your guidance did I see the octopi. One big WHOOPIE for no CRC and tell your liver to behave darn it. I had 2nd prep in the am for my colo but did not have a really early am appt - DH wanted to wait for traffic to clear.
Well, after almost 2 months of nothing breaking around here (my car worked on in Sept and Dec) 7 mo old water heater starter dribbling out the overflow this am into backyard. After arranging to get new pressure valve/labor from manu. the plumber they sent tells me my metering pressure regulator has failed. So he's coming back in am to replace it and meter cutoff. The absolute joys of home ownership.
So far my PCP's Rx for tiredness is just making me tired. Exercise. Hauling boxes out of closet with w. heater, raking hay, forking hay out into the netherlands. All lab work he ordered TSH, T4, lipid panel came out OK. Sleep, blessed sleep. At least DH is off tomorrow to squire plumber around. I may go hide somewhere, city library?
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Luv, Maybe next time I will try a late morning apt. That way I could just get up at 5-6 a.m. and do Part 2 then, especially if it is just the bile cleanse. More sleep but longer without food. I think I could do that.
I hear ya about troubles with your home (read: money pit.) For me, it is appliances. I was steaming yesterday when my 14 mo. old microwave conked out. One year warranty, of course. I am going for a record with my refrigerator tho', 24 years and counting. Anyone have one more elderly that? My competitive streak wants to know.
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Eli..a lite dish but yummy......
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Loral - Just send any leftovers Eli leaves right over here. Looks yummy. I actually had some baby carrots a bit ago - not my usual snack.
Who knew you could have too much water pressure? We're on co-op water and complain of too little pressure. Who know what showers will be like?
Refrigerators - no not that old but I did have a harvest gold one for years. Can't remember what sent it to appliance graveyard. Last one about 5 years ago began leaking. That was timed with one of those energy efficient applicance rebates - fortunate timing. What color is your 24 year old refrigerator? It may be too young to be harvest gold. That one would have been about 37 now.
Yes Eli I would recommend a later appt. I actually slept pretty good. The serious BR trips stopped around 11 p.
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i do have to say you guys do find some tempting luscious photos of the goods. mine were actually in my kitchen, and just a quick picture, not plated or anything. i dont know why i take pictures of food. or anything, really, except it catches my eye. i declined ass pictures last week. just not ready for that, yet. think ive pissed off my docs there too much, and they might look forward to implanting a gremlin there.
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...and momine, i will be right there, so don't eat it all up without me.
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E - thanks for the details of the "procedure" and prep. Have my 1st procedure next week (have to admit I've put it off for a while as I have a phobia of IV's). Now feeling a bit guilty and scared. Go tomorrow for pre-procedure appointment. Glad you made it sound a little less threatening.
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2TA, I've done 4 preps (total) so far. They are nasty but if you have a choice in the matter, the best tasting one is the Gatorade/Miralax prep. You can pick your favorite flavor of Gatorade (so long as it is not red or purple in color) and if you don't have to do it in the wee hours of the morning, it is actually easier doing it in two parts rather than a long gruelling one. You can ask to be awake (lighter sedation) and they might let you do that.
If you don't want TMI about the c-scope, don't read here...
Also, the aliens that do the actual procedure are really skilled experts. They have abilities that we don't have. For instance, I went in to the procedure with a butt that was still a little sore from all the wiping during the prep. When I came out, not only did I NOT even feel like I had been probed, but my rear had been soothed by extra-terrestrial healing powers. Incredible, yet true.
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Luv - I had an avocado green fridge for years. But the longest was a round top Admiral maybe 5 ft tall that belonged to my Grandmother - vintage 1950s. It had the plastic drop down "door" for the ice compartment - all inside the big door. When she died in the 70's my folks shipped it to me and I used it until 2000. Granted I'd moved it to the garage to hold drinks, but if I could have found a gasket for the door I would be using it still.
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