MIDDLE-AGED WOMEN 40-60ish
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Welcome to the new ladies, glad you found your way here! Your attitudes rock and that will help you so much!
I loved that movie "Harvey". In fact, I loved everything Jimmy Stewart was ever in - you never got the feeling he was acting. Not sure many of them can quite pull that off these days.
My favorite Easter treat - which I don't think I've had since I was a kid - although I took a nip or two from my son's:
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heartandsoul...can you see my pictures? I can't see them?
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Lovewins - don't know about HNS but I can't see them. Nor Loral's either. Can see HNS's bunnies missing parts of their anatomies. This seems to be a recent problem. I get a funny box on Loral's but on your's Lovewins I get just the Elwood P Dowd in blue. I've noticed the box happening more and more and others seem to see the pic.
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Hmmmm I can see Lorals but I can't see mine but when I try to edit I see them. Weird. Oh well...upward and onward!
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what a way to fake us out. I can see my pics sometimes and no one else can. I cannot just copy and paste, have to go thru the process of uploading from my file.
So you know how I am on a strict diet, guess what I won at a raffle on saturday? A big old easter basket filled with candy and other treats. lol
I had to give it away.
so virtual treats it is.
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All that candy! Bring it on, would rather enjoy viewing than eating. No, not true exactly, but so many less calories that way.
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Think of jelly beans as coagulated sugar and it takes a bit of the glamour out...
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Barbe,why? lol Actually I'm not a candy lover...I'm a bread girl. I'll combine the tastes for my pineapple stuffing on Sunday. It's one of my very favorite things. I've modified the original recipe over the years to use less sugar and Smart Balance instead of butter and it still makes me drool just thinking about it! I'll only eat ham if I have that as a side
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pineapple stuffing? Have never heard of it before, but it sounds really yummy! Easy to make?
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Never heard of pineapple stuffing either - may have to look into that. Sounds delish
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You stuff a HAM???
My comment was to try to help ladies NOT want to eat jelly beans. They're really just little balls of sugar...
Did y'all know that the artificial flavour of caramel comes from the anal glands of a beaver? Like, who and HOW did someone figure THAT out???????
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The anal glands of a beaver?? Really?? I am going to have to shove that thought out of my head - I love caramel.
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Yuck! I have always been leery of honey because it is bee spit and yogurt because it is live bacteria....and mushrooms because they are fungus!
How did you find that out Barbe...guess I will have to stick to the real stuff.
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Honey and yogurt and mushrooms are all good for you too! I care not if their roots are a bit unsavory sounding
Pineapple stuffing - It's just a side dish, not actually stuffed anywhere. Just cubed bread, crushed pineapple, sugar, butter, eggs. Anyone who wants recipe, Send me a PM and I'll gladly share recipe.
Barbe, I knew that was your intent...my "Why?" was my attempt at humor
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Beaver anal gland secretions in caramel? Yuck! And all this time I thought it was sugar and cream! Or is it sugar and butter?
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I'd take the spit out of the mouth of a bee rather than the caramel out of a beavers ass!!!
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Barbe...LOL.
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I watched a 60 Minutes segment on "flavorings" about a year ago, I think. It was truly amazing from where some flavorings originate! I don't recall the caramel-beaver connection, or any of the other odd and disgusting ones, but many were discussed in the segment. Yeah, makes you really want to read labels, although I don't think you'll find a beaver's anal gland reference on the ingredients list on that pack of caramels...probably just "natural flavorings." What could be more natural than a beaver's ass?!
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From Snopes:
Another reason we may want to forgo artificial 'foods' ... Have you ever wondered where artificial raspberry, vanilla or strawberry flavor comes from? These are the dried perineal glands of the beaver. They contain castoreum — a food additive usually listed as 'natural flavoring' in the ingredient list. Castoreum is the exudate from the castor sacs of the mature North American Beaver, it is a yellowish secretion in combination with the beaver's urine, used during scent marking of territory. In the USA, castoreum as a food additive is considered by the FDA to be generally recognized as safe, often referenced simply as a "natural flavoring" in products' lists of ingredients.Come on page 1000!
Origins: Castoreum (or castor, not to be confused with the oil of a castor bean) is a yellowish-brown, unctuous substance with a strong, penetrating odor which beavers secrete from castor sacs located in skin cavities between the pelvis and the base of the tail and spray when scent-marking their territory. (The location of the beaver's castor sacs means that castoreum also often includes a mixture of anal gland secretions and urine as well.) Due to the
beaver's typical diet of leaves and bark, castoreum doesn't "stink" as other similar animal secretions do, but rather has a musky, vanilla scent described at the perfume site Fragrantica as a "sharp spreading tar-like note that reminds one of the odor of birch tar or Russian leather" that when diluted in alcohol picks up "more pleasant, musky and fruity nuances."
Because of its scent properties castoreum has long been employed in the perfume-making industry, and processed forms of castoreum have also been used as food additives, in the latter case primarily as enhancers of strawberry and raspberry flavorings found in products such as iced tea, ice cream, gelatin, candy, fruit-flavored drinks, and yogurt.
The average consumer likely isn't encountering much (if any) castoreum in common food products these days, however, in large part because collecting the substance is difficult:Getting a beaver to produce castoreum for purposes of food processing is tough. Foodies bent on acquiring some of the sticky stuff have to anesthetize the animal and then "milk" its nether regions.
According to Fernelli's Handbook of Flavor Ingredients, total annual consumption of castoreum, castoreum extract, and castoreum liquid combined is only about 292 pounds (132 kilograms), or about .000129 mg/kg/day per consumer.
"You can milk the anal glands so you can extract the fluid," [Joanne] Crawford [a wildlife ecologist at Southern Illinois University] said. "You can squirt [castoreum] out. It's pretty gross."
Due to such unpleasantness for both parties, castoreum consumption is rather small.
In 2011, the Vegetarian Resource Group (VRG) queried five companies that produce vanilla flavorings about whether they used any castoreum in their products, and all five replied that they did not:All five unanimously stated that castoreum is not used today in any form of vanilla sold for human food use.
Castoreum as a food additive is classified by the Food and Drug Administration as "generally recognized as safe" (GRAS), and therefore food manufacturers don't always have to include castoreum in their ingredients lists and may instead refer to it as "natural flavoring." However yucky that may seem, according to a 2007 safety assessment published the International Journal of Toxicology, consumption of castoreum poses no health risk to humans:
One company, in business for ninety years, informed The VRG that they have never used castoreum in their products. "At one time," we were told by a senior level employee at this company, "to the best of my knowledge, it was used to make fragrance and still may be."
A major ingredients supplier told us this about some of their vanilla flavorings: "[Castoreum] is not a common raw material that is used and we don't use it, so I can safely say that our natural vanilla flavors do not contain any animal juices. All vanilla extracts are free of it, too, wherever you go."Acute toxicity studies in animals indicate that castoreum extract is nontoxic by both oral and dermal routes of administration and is not irritating or phototoxic to skin. Skin sensitization has not been observed in human subject tests. A long historical use of castoreum extract as a flavoring and fragrance ingredient has resulted in no reports of human adverse reactions. On the basis of this information, low-level, long-term exposure to castoreum extract does not pose a health risk. The objective of this review is to evaluate the safety-in-use of castoreum extract as a food ingredient.
Last updated: 14 January 2014
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/food/ingredient/castoreum.asp#KEXReU2ocFoZB4jI.99
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Hear Ye, Hear Ye: Henceforth, the women on this thread will be known for speaking of beavers' anal secretions as easily as they speak of breast cancer.
Thread founder, elimar, quipped, "The thread has now truly entered into its Renaissance." She added, "Let me just shove aside my vast collection of dubious honors to make room for this new one."
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truly amazing! and extremely entertaining!
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DumdadaDum!!!!!! You forgot that prior to the "Hear Ye's"
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oh man, you should see what we're saying on another thread about constipation. We'll just talk about anything!
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Strawberry, raspberry...you'll notice they don't mention caramel use!!! So here's for all you "natural" and "organic" gals!!!!
By Dr. Mercola
You probably know you’re better off avoiding artificial flavorings in your foods. But what about natural flavors? Aren’t they… natural?
Not necessarily. Both artificial and natural flavors can be made in laboratories, and natural flavors are not necessarily healthier than artificial ones. They may also be far from what you expect…
Now please understand this is not some type of massive food scandal. The use of this product is relatively uncommon but I thought it would serve as a good example of the many ingredients you have no idea are being used in your food. This is yet another example of how your food is perverted and manipulated -- especially when the word “natural” is used.
Vanilla-Flavored Processed Foods May Contain Anal Secretions from Beaver Butts…
Anal secretions from beavers, which beavers use to mark their territory, smell, ironically, like vanilla. These secretions, called castoreum, may be used as vanilla flavoring in baked goods, pudding, chewing gum and more.1
Here’s the rub … you certainly won’t see ‘beaver anal secretions’ on your food labels, and you probably won’t see ‘castoreum’ either. All that has to be listed is vanilla natural flavor, because, after all, beaver anal secretions are natural.
It’s clearly absurd that food manufacturers can describe secretions from beaver anal glands as natural vanilla flavor. This isn’t a huge health issue, especially because beavers are not a bred animal, and the total consumption of castoreum is thought to be around just 250 pounds a year.2
Still, there’s no denying it’s deceptive, as most people would not knowingly buy such a product, especially when vanilla flavor can be extracted from other sources, like coniferous trees and vanilla beans (imagine that!). In case you were wondering, there are actually quite a few foods that could, theoretically, contain castoreum, including:
Alcoholic beverages Baked goods Chewing gum Frozen dairy Puddings and gelatin Gravies Hard candy and soft candy Meat products Non-alcoholic beverages 0 -
Who knew that beavers were such multi purpose animals?
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I eat way more bread products than I should, but happy to say that we eat very little processed food at all in this house. Reading the last few pages ... I've never been happier about that fact! I get no credit for that - hub's Mom didn't believe in them so he grew up without them and I had no choice. 80 to 90% of the time we eat good food, we just eat too much of it!
Went with my cousin to a church service tonight. An annual thing for the two of us. We meet up with other family members there, cousins, 2nd cousins, one of my brothers...and it's such a wonderful service. One of those things where every single person in church is there because they want to be...not because they have to be. The singing is moving, the ceremonial parts are comforting and familiar, and I just feel good afterward. I truly look forward to this one service all year long. It never disappoints. Worth travelling away from my own church for this one once a year.
My very best wishes to you all for a Happy Easter, however you may celebrate. To our Jewish friends, I hope you had a Good Pesach.
Oh...let me put a couple pics in here to build our page count since I'm on the "regular" computer!!!
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Since we've been on the topic of beavers:
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Do you think that the beavers' anal secretions might help with my hair growth? You ladies are a crack up. I am 48 years old, 5 weeks post chemo, waiting for my hair to grow in, and going through rads.
Kim
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Kim-your avatar name has "fro" in it...is that your wish? I know, I know, you are KJ from CA but the 1st thing I saw was the fro word & based on your post.....well. I think that beaver anal secretions would certainly grow something, not sure about hair!!!!
Marlegal, so is that an annual Maundy Thursday service you attend? Thanks for the Easter wishes. Same to you!
I have the next 3 days off. 1st thing I'm doing is sleeping in (provided the animals allow it, which they probably won't BUT I'm not getting up at no sticking 5:30!!!!! Yippee!
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make that "stinking"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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