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  • m0mmyof3
    m0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,758

    A bit slow on getting going. The thunderstorms woke Jackson last night twice. So naturally Mommy got woke up.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Morning, I have an ear worm today, such fun, it's a ringing phone. I didn't catch on till the second time I got up. Third time I didn't answer it. Now it seems to be quiet. Hope this doesn't get to be a routine.

    Today is going to be historic. DJT will announce whether we stay in or leave the Climate Change group. The naysayers against leaving say it will be catastrophic for the US to leave. I support leaving because 1. Climate change is a theory. Theories need to be proved. They're has been suppression of researchers and studies countering the theory. Conversely, theories that have supported it are touted as true. 2. The governments and UN that are so apoplectic about us leaving are really upset b/c they won't have our money. Which per usual, we had a preponderance of the burden of money to support the accords. That money would then be redistributed through out the world. Socialism at the highest level. Socialism always fails in the end. 3. We wouldn't have been in this quandary if Obama hadn't usurped the process of government in signing treaties.

    If he withdraws, the left will become unglued. They will riot more. They will threaten more. The MSM will beat it to death without ever looking at the facts or reporting the facts. The negativism will skyrocket. This is not going to be an easy time.

    Whatever DJT does, it will be debated forever. He will however do what he has analyzed to be in the best of the economic growth of the country. Covfefe

    3pm today in the Rose Garden.

  • m0mmyof3
    m0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,758

    I am in total agreement with you on this Sas!!!!! The Climate Change alarmists refuse to see that there were periods in history where we have gone through this before as I discovered last year while doing research while analyzing a political cartoon aimed at pushing climate change down our collective throats for a class.

  • wren44
    wren44 Member Posts: 7,932

    When the last tree is cut, the last fish is caught, and the last river is polluted; when to breathe the air is sickening, you will realize, too late, that wealth is not in bank accounts and that you can't eat money.

    Unknown Native American

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Hi Mommy, The climate change agenda follows closely with the globalist agenda of dividing the world in to "Unions". While discussion of it's actual beginning for breaking the world up into the 10 unions is unknown, it's commonly reported as occurring after WW2.

    The European Union exists. It was one union of 10 planned.

    The North American Union was planned to include all of Central America, Mexico, Cuba, USA, Canada.

    A characteristic of the planned unions is open borders, and open economic borders. This occurred with the European Union until the Lisbon treaty......more later


  • m0mmyof3
    m0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,758

    Sas, sounds like a New World Order. Orwell warned us about this in his book "1984"

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    I don't oppose reasonable EPA or environmental controls, but when a farmers furrow with water in it is claimed to be under control of the EPA Clean Water regulations. That's gone to far.

    The globalist have directed this since the late 40's, progressively using climate as a tool to gain further control of countries. Scientist that disagree by there research with climate warming are discredited and unfunded to bring them into alignment with "the consensus". Attempts have been made to criminalize disagreement.

    This quote is self explaining" The A.G.s may be acting on behest of the Obama Administration and liberal Democrats in the Senate. U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch testified to Congress that, in response to requests by Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI), the Obama administration's Justice Department has asked the Federal Bureau of Investigation to investigate whether there is sufficient evidence to prosecute Exxon and other companies, researchers, and think tanks for exercising their First Amendment rights in promoting climate skepticism. A group of nine Democratic Senators have repeatedly threatened conservative groups that question the Obama Administration's alarmist dogma on the climate change issue."(bolding emphasis mine)

    https://www.heartland.org/topics/climate-change/state-attorneys-general-launch-legal-attack-climate-realists/index.html

    This is serious folks when the Government threatens folks b/c they don't believe in the government dogma and the science isn't irrefutable/

    The next link is to an abstract of a study related to the compilation of aricles & studies of skeptics . I have included the entire abstract to encourage discussion through ease of access of statements made in the conclusion of the study.

    Text-mining the signals of climate change doubt

    • a Department of Political Science, Trinity College Dublin, 3 College Green, Dublin 2, Ireland
    • b Department of Politics and Exeter Q-Step Centre, University of Exeter, Amory Building, Rennes Drive, Exeter, Devon EX4 4RJ, United Kingdom
    Received 27 September 2015, Revised 22 November 2015, Accepted 10 December 2015, Available online 30 December 2015

    Highlight

    Think-tank contrarian information has increased exponentially over 1998–2013

    Sceptical themes are diverse and range from scientific integrity to policy.

    Science-related discourse has grown relative to policy in key sceptic organizations.

    Think-tank discourse is highly influenced by external factors.

    We generate longitudinal data on think-tank contrarian themes over a 16 year period.

    Abstract

    Climate scientists overwhelmingly agree that the Earth is getting warmer and that the rise in average global temperature is predominantly due to human activity. Yet a significant proportion of the American public, as well as a considerable number of legislators in the U.S. Congress, continue to reject the "consensus view." While the source of the disagreement is varied, one prominent explanation centres on the activities of a coordinated and well-funded countermovement of climate sceptics. This study contributes to the literature on organized climate scepticism by providing the first systematic overview of conservative think tank sceptical discourse in nearly 15 years. Specifically, we (1) compile the largest corpus of contrarian literature to date, collecting over 16,000 documents from 19 organizations over the period 1998–2013; (2) introduce a methodology to measure key themes in the corpus which scales to the substantial increase in content generated by conservative think tanks over the past decade; and (3) leverage this new methodology to shed light on the relative prevalence of science- and policy-related discussion among conservative think tanks. We find little support for the claim that "the era of science denial is over"—instead, discussion of climate science has generally increased over the sample period.(bolding emphasis mine)

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0959378015300728

    The following link is to wiki of " List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming

    There are 73 authors represented in the above list. How many others were prevented either due to funding or threats by the Obama Whitehouse is unknown. But the fact that the research shows a compilation of 16,000 articles from 19 organizations over 16 years where the conclusion of the study on "Text-mining"is that "consenus" on climate change is not present.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    2:56 pm Press is talking withdrawal. We will know in a few minutes.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Yoohoooo.. we are out.

  • m0mmyof3
    m0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,758

    Not surprised one bit.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Stock market high. Yay. Same as the day he was elected. The pick pockets that were on the receiving end of the money that would be taken from your pocket, are decrying his move. Wellllll, they will be crying the sky is falling forever. They are off the dole too.

    If you want a real discussion go to Fox News. Any another mainstream will convince you that the world has collapsed. Laughing about the words from Merkel and Macron. Two big members of NATO. Germany isn't paying their committed amount. Germany isn't pulling it's way in NATO. Why expect they will pull their way in the Paris Accord. The loudest voice out of the EU is Merkel. Macron is following Merkel , not b/c he has an interest in France. They both are committed to the NWO. Globalism.

    How many reading this ever heard of Globalism, New World Order, !0 world divided Unions, European Union, North American Union? I heard a speech around 1992. it was the elder Bush talking about a New World Order and Globalism. I remember it well. Not the date. It was 1990. A cousin shared a link today. I'll link it if I can. But never thought of it again till I heard the same language out of Bill Clinton in a speech. May have been with Nafta. I thought odd, Bill Clinton used the same words that Bush senior used. Noted and moved on with life.

    Seems trivial, but I wondered at the buddi-budiness of Senior Bush and Bill Clinton post presidencies. Put in the perspective that they are both Globalists....makes sense. They were in on taking us to a different place.

    Fast forward, DJT announces. I'm into the Trump pocket right away. He's made and lost money. He's a businessman. The USA is broke. Why broke. Debt. I don't believe in debt that can be avoided. Income can't exceed outgo, particularly, if the holder of the debt can call the note on debt due any time.

    Trump was a wildcard that changed the Globalist march towards the New World Order. Am I parroting someone no. No one in MSM has made that connection in those words. He has upset the coffee table. Had he not entered the race and become president, how the next president would have accepted or driven us into the NWO is unknown and can't be surmised. But the last four president's have driven us in that direction. No clue if Reagan or any president preceding him knew back to the post WW2 regarding the NWO were involved. But denial that the NWO was the plan when it is documented in history would be counterintuitive.

    But we know now, if we are drawn into the NWO, it isn't b/c we didn't know. Prior to DJT, we were going there without knowing.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Yes, the tenor of my discourse has changed. IS that allowed by the parameters of the thread. Yes. " Discussion will flow where it will as all threads do". I have acquiesced to the group in previous times. Then the group changed. Recently, a member was attempted to be silenced by one word. I chewed on that one word for quite some time. Then I thought, how my speech had been limited because someone coming here wanted to change it.

    I have decided that others coming here trying to define the space, have not done well. We were reduced to being a weather report. So, post with all that you want to talk about, abbreviated explectives are okay, no denigration of any, and we will get along. Not happy with that? Pass on by..................

  • m0mmyof3
    m0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,758

    I agree. I don't think Regan knew about the New World Order. And another thing that I was discussing with other people I know is that if JFK were alive today, he probably would have been thought of as not a Democrat. So glad that the status quo has been shaken up. I do believe that those in business who have gone broke or nearly broke learn from it.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Hellooooooo.. MammaRay, Oh bless you. We often think of you. The brain thingy, sucks...damnable.............You have our prayers

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Mommy, JFK.................

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 4,243

    MammaRay, what a pleasant surprise to see your pos Hug

  • shepkitty
    shepkitty Member Posts: 878

    MammaRay ! 😃 💜

  • m0mmyof3
    m0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,758

    Nice to see you MammaRay.

    Sas, even though I was not alive when JFK was president, I admire JFK for the stance he took concerning our country. I also admire FDR for his time as president and the challenges he had both with his own health and dealing with our country fighting a war on two fronts.

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,027

    Wren, I agree with you 110%!

    Let me start by saying I'm an Independent. I refuse to let any "group" tell me what to think, believe in and especially what to do. Period.

    Nostardamus predicted Hitler and WWII and he also predicted the "man with a Trumpet" including the failure of Trumpet's presidency and WWIII. Every time I think of Trumpet I think of Nixion. I'm PRAYING I'm WRONG!

    I know, Nostradamus had predictions that didn't happen. I'm PRAYING this is one of them and Trumpet knows what he's doing, Trumpet may only have a third grade vocabulary and I'm wishing that was the only fault he has but he has no morals and that's a biggie. I'm a wait and see kinda gal myself. Typed with a <WEG> aka <Wicked Evil Grin>

    I love everyone here and we all have a right to believe what we chose to believe 😍🤗

    Sincerely,

    First Lady Lori of thePirate Nation LOL



  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,027

    Mama raccoon scratching at door for her marshmallows. She's got a bellyful of babies 👏

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  • feelingfeline
    feelingfeline Member Posts: 5,145

    Love the <WEG> Oh where oh where is the emoti for that one Wenchie?


    MammaRay - lovely to hear from you.

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,027

    Lover, I can't find the emoji either! They must create one ASAP!

    MammaRay, it's great to see you here! Praying for nothing but the best for you always!

    Teka, mama likes to hold my hand with her paws as she takes her time eating her marshmallows. I think she'd come in the house if I let her but she's still a wild animal, friendly but still wild.


  • shepkitty
    shepkitty Member Posts: 878

    How timely is this? check out the video my raccie loving friend sent me this morning.... It's about a Raccoon Cafe!

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    Click here: VIDEO LINK


    Edited to fix link

  • m0mmyof3
    m0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,758

    Can't believe in ten days is my 13th wedding anniversary. I am so blessed to have a wonderful hubby.


  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,027

    M0mmy, what a wonderful time to celebrate with the man of your dreams!

    ShepK, I couldn't get the video to work but I'll keep tryin lol

    My hubby just tried to give mama raccoon a marshmallow but she wasn't having it!


  • shepkitty
    shepkitty Member Posts: 878

    Yay Mommy!

    Try the link now Wenchie........Hee-hee, Mama knows YOU are The Marshmallow Lady!

  • m0mmyof3
    m0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,758

    Thanks girls. It just seems like we got married yesterday.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Mommy, I'm not surprised that we are out either. But the final call on it had to be formally announced. The sky will not fall per some. It was the typical money grab from the US. The US will not abandon the environment.

    Your quote " I do believe that those in business who have gone broke or nearly broke learn from it." I believe that too, if they are paying attention to not repeating the same mistakes.

    Loved listening to Wilbur Ross, Secretary of Commerce. post withdrawal about Elon Musk quitting the Economic Council if DJT withdrew. When he was asked how much concern he had if he pulled out? "None, there are many that would be happy to serve" Hahaha

    Your class last year, did you study about the intended breakup of the world into the "Unions"?

    Wenchie, Hahahaha tell me what you really think of DJT? Kidding you said it loud and clear. Generally, I have been registered as an Independent. As a young one, I voted primarily Democrat. But the older I get, I'm firmly aligned with conservative principles. I am also a nationalist versus a globalist. I was disappointed the Geert of Denmark and LePen of France lost there elections. Very proud of the V4--Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, and Slovakia. Their leadership is inspiring.

    I have grave concern that when things continue to deteriorate in the EU that we will be dragged into conflict b/c of our NATO alliance, when that conflict is self inflicted. Then add to that the countries screaming the hardest against DJT and the USA are the worst offenders for paying their fair share

    This link is good regarding who's paying what for NATO.

    http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/08/news/nato-summit-spending-countries/index.html

    Love the Mama raccoon. What do you feed them? Marshmallows? How did you figure out they like Marshmallows? Mamma raccoon prefers you to dear hubby?

    "First Lady Lori of thePirate Nation LOL". Hahahaha

    Shep, the video link wouldn't load?

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 4,243

    Lori, it was Feline who made the comment about the emoji. I know she is lovely as me and it's easy to mistaken us....should I stop now before my head gets bigger?

    I think I found the WEG emoji for you gals:

    image

    I love it when we can respectfully agree to disagree. It brings joy to my heart when I see my friends don't take disagreements personally. Politics and religion can divide and destroy friendships. I had seen it here and it saddens me. Honestly, I was nervous and uneasy the last two days. Was wondering why stomach was not behaving. Anyway, I love the quote Ms. Wren shared. So true. Money is nothing if there are no resources to keep us alive. It would be foolish of our leaders if they don't care about our environment.

    Shepk, I heard about the Racoon coffee shop yesterday in the news and thought I should look for the video and post it here after I saw Lori's post. You beat me to it. Hah!

    Mommy, wishing you many more years with DH. May you grow old together.

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,027

    Feline, I apologize for mixing you and Lover up. As Lover said, you are both very lovely!

    Lover, thank you for finding our emoji! I'll have to start using it ASAP