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  • MarlanaB
    MarlanaB Posts: 193

    hi, debiann. I'm 5 days in from my first chemo. Slept most of the day away but still having trouble keeping my eyes open like loveroflife. I'm in California but my dad is from outside of York.

  • debiann
    debiann Posts: 447

    Hi Marlanab, I hope chemo isn't treating you too bad. Day 5 is when I'd start to go downhill and I'd feel better by day 10. If you feel too bad, ask to go back in for IV fluids. Took me 3 rounds and a trip to the er  to learn that even though I was drinking a lot, it was passing right through me and flushing out my sodium while not getting properly absorbed by my cells. IV fluids brought me back to life. What kind of Furbabies do you have?

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Posts: 10,258

    Morning gals........ Hi Debiann! Glad you found us.... These gals are awake all night, but I'm here to hold the fort down all day...Ha!

    You have gone through a LOT! A lot more than most of us, but we'll help you get over the bumps...

    You look beautiful, if that is you in your avatar... otherwise who-ever it is looks good also...image

    And most everybody here has either kids or dogs... mostly dogs... We had "Lacee".... She is in my Avatar... most beautiful little dog in the world... We lost her due to kidney disease... etc.... so we really don't want another one just yet... maybe someone will fall into our lives, but not right now.... What pets do YOU have?

    Loverly, what's wrong? I see you almost said something, but then didn't.

    Somethings wrong, I can tell.... you want to talk about it yet? xoxo

    Yes Marla, some parts are getting way too much rain, and flooding, and poor California is having one of the worst times ever!

    I put down a bunch of pavers, and they worked out well... Just make sure the ground is level... You mean like the brick square ones? I know a gal who used old bricks... Now THAT would take patience....

    We did our whole back patio area years ago with left-over flag-stone, and then "black-top" in between.... We bought the black-top at Home Depot... And they lay it in between when it is hot out!

    And anything will settle, or rise... especially if you have HOT, and then freezing weather...

    Okay, what ELSE do I know nothing about? All those meds... I know that no matter what you take, you just can't take it on an on-going basis...

    Except maybe stuff for diabetes, etc.

    And yes, we all DO think that if we buy it over the counter, it is "safe".... But they all say don't take every darn minute for the rest of your life...

    We just gotta figure that out...

    Everything you take has an effect on something else going on in your body.

    So Hi Mel, Jazzy and Rosie... Now WHAT did they do to you Rosie? I'll act like I know, but really I don't...

    But sounds like one thing led to another, and then you went straight down-hill!

    I'm surprised you can put two words together, after all that you have gone through....

    Okay... just stop everything, and get back to me... Drink lots of water, get lots of sleep, and only eat milk-toast and soft stuff... like scrambled eggs.... and mashed potatoes.... And yes Yogurt.

    I WOULD PUT YOU ON ALOE VERA.... 1/4th CUP 4 TIMES A DAY MIXED WITH ANY JUICE, OR TEA! You can get this stuff at Walmart! A little over $7 for a gallon! Honest, this will help you more than all the other stuff.

    Spookie! That's funny.... Eyeore won't fly! Hah! Now ain't THAT the truth? And even when they do, they like to let everyone else know how miserable they are..... And what WE think is fun.... is NOT fun to them sometimes. .....

    See gals, when men get older, they just go off on their own little mind-altering mood swings.... And they like for us to buy into it... but if we have 1/2 a brain, we know better than that....

    So you just listen, and then try not to laugh when they are expounding on how the whole world is going to pieces... And "What's there to be happy about?" .... And you just look at them and think WHERE DID THIS ALL GO BAD?

    But then you just humor them, and stay happy yourself, and go do your own thing.

    And you are thinking I will love this crabby old man until the day I day, and even if he IS 1/2 off his rocker sometimes, he is still mine, so I must NOT get too mad, or I would hit him over the head with a cast-iron skillet.

    THAT'S what they are good for! Those skillets are too heavy to cook with, so God made them for stand-by mood alterers....

    Okay, now what else can I help you with?

    And MORNING Jazzy...Are you behaving?

    And OH! Littlepaws is here! Give Annie Mae a hug from us...

    And Pepperming~! Go boogie girl! I'm with you.....!

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Posts: 10,258

    Tangled - Frying Pan by Disgrace-Angel369

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Posts: 10,258

    Dinner for Rosie!

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  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Posts: 8,178

    Eyeore tried to kill my iron skillet by putting it in the dishwasher. I damn near killed HIM!! Good thing I checked before starting it.

  • jazzygirl
    jazzygirl Posts: 12,047

    Good morning friends!

    I had a good day doing music and visiting with my friend (coming through chemo) yesterday. We went to this place for brunch after grocery shopping that she loves. I had these eggs benedict, but instead of hollandaise sauce, they use yummy cheese queso sauce. Oh my! The ham on it was not like the thin sliced sandwich stuff you get in a deli, but like a ham steak kind. Dang that was good. My friend treated me too, which she did NOT have to do, but apparently wanted to with the help I have been giving her since her dx. Well, heck, that is what friends are for, right? We help one another, no questions asked. It was sweet of her to buy me breakfast tho......

    Weather is beautiful here. Full moon rising last night was outstanding. Tomorrow night, I am going to "outdoor full moon yoga". I bet you are wondering what the heck that is? A nice evening of yoga in the sunset hours in the great out of doors while the full moon rises up. One of my favorite things to do in the summer months. Jazzy loves her outdoor yoga!

    Got a trip to the gym to get to and then an 8:30 a.m. apt. May you all have a good day!

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Posts: 10,258

    Well, you almost COULD have! And everyone would have understood his demise! NO-one messes with our iron-skillets!

    I'll have to try that Jazzy! Sounds good!

  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Posts: 8,950

    Marla - glad you are starting to feel more normal on day 5. Hoping today us even better

    Blondie - hope u finally slept. Don't worry all moms are embarrassing to their children at their age , right ? Man I sure was. Didn't want her even speaking to my friends. Really for no reason because my mom really was awesome. Are you doing a countdown to Florida on your fridge ?

    Debian - welcome

    Loveroflife - everything ok ????

    Jazzy - what a sweet day with your friend. Outdoor full moon yoga sounds interesting. What the night temp there ? Always look forward to your posts to see what new interesting thing you are up to.

    Chevy - moody men needing a mood alterer, lol. You are so funny. I have been thinking about how to slip a Valium in my dhs daily food but no luck yet. Maybe the iron skillet would be quicker and more fulfilling. I think you should leave the outdoor full moon yoga alone Chevy. We don't want you Mia for hip surgery again. I missed ya.

    SAS - howdy.

    So ds1 went to work with dh today to earn some extra money. It's just me and ds2 (10) today. Wish he would hurry up and wakeup. I've already been to town got lab and back already. Hoping to get some quality 1 on 1 time with him today. I've felt so miserable we really haven't spent much time together other than watching tv or eating. Today I hope to play some board and/or card games with him , cook spaghetti dinner and peach dump cobbler ( he loves to cook ) , go thru snd pick out some photos to print for scrapbook ( I am terrible about only having my pics on my phone or computer ) watch him swim in the pool ( way to cold for me still brr ) , and whatever else we might get into. Oh yeah snd a nap for me somewhere in there ( I was up again most of the night - still got my days and night mixed up)

    Hugs all around

    Hootie hoo

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Posts: 4,243

    Good morning lovely Ladies!

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  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Posts: 1,418

    Patty, YEEHA, love to hear the joy in your words. Spending simple time with our kids is the best.

    Chevy, sounds like you know my DH personally. He is fixed on, how the economy is going to crash, with a side of death. Arrrgggggg....

    Ok, time for my rant/drama......turned 60 yesterday, no biggie.....woke up with some bumps on my belly, probably bug bites. I got a call from the skin Dr. The biopsy on arm is skin cancer, but the biopsy on the boob is benign. Funny, I do not have Cancer on the cancer boob. I get the keys at 12:00 to the new house. The movers come tomorrow to move all the furniture. Busy......busy.....

    Hello to all, welcome newbies....

    Spook, I have wanted to ask you for a long time, how did your DH get the nickname, Eyeore?

  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Posts: 8,950

    hi1 - happy belated birthday ! So what's the plan for the skin cancer ? Glad the other is benign. Are you moving far or just across town ? Ugh I can't imagine going thru all my accumulated stuff to move. What did you do for your bday yesterday ?

  • Smaarty
    Smaarty Posts: 2,615

    happy birthday Hin1, do you like chocolate

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    Coconut ?

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    Be sure to celebrate on the ship

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Posts: 1,418

    Patty, we are just moving across town. Basically downsizing. Also, since the economy is going to crash, and the next Great Depression is just around the corner, ( lol ) we are renting. Cash is king....I have heard that one too many times....

    My good friend came to town on Sat. A local friend had a BBQ for me Sat. Afternoon. Good wine, great food, fire pit. Very relaxing, and a chance to visit with long time friends. Then Sun. Morning we went to brunch, sat outside, with a view of the canyon.

    I go in on Thursday, the dermatologists will remove more tissue & explain it all. I knew it was coming, I have spent so much time outside. I am obsessed with being outside, working on the yard, flowers, or recreating.

    Have a fun day with ds2...

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Posts: 1,418

    thanks Smaarty. I will eat both cakes !

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Posts: 4,243

    Marlana, I remember you mentionedthat you are keeping yourself hydrated balancing in electrolytes, but sometimes it might not be enough lytes. Debiann is right about IV fluid and sodium being flushed out. Make sure they monitor your electrolytes. You get all kinds of stuff spilling out of the cells when they are killed by chemo, thus your lytes might be off. Get plenty of rest if you can so your body can recover. Work can wait. Hugs

  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Posts: 8,178

    Happy birthday to uuuuuuuu!

    You know about Eyore in Winnie the Pooh? Clinically depressed donkey? That's DH.

    I had basal cell on my face, squamous cut out of my arm, clean margin. Neither was a real big deal.

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Posts: 4,243

    Hi1

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    HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY!!!

  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Posts: 8,950

    spookie - eyore - too very funny

    Hi1 - sounds like you had a great bday. Hope thur goes smoothly for ya

  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Posts: 8,178

    if a person is depressed, there is help available. He won't get it. And he likes to play marter I refuse to let him drag ME down. So Eyeore it is.

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Posts: 4,243

    Ms. Spookie, hope your Eeyore finds his sunshine. Poor Eeyore. Mom is the same way. It is hard seeing her that way. The glass is always half empty for her SIGH. Good thing my dad is like Tigger, but I am starting to see that he has become more forgetful the last two years another SIGH. NOW, I am starting to sound like Eeyore myself.

  • jazzygirl
    jazzygirl Posts: 12,047

    Hol- I hope you have a good birthday.

    I heard there will be another economic correction in 2015. They come every 7 years these days, just like the "7 year itch). 2001, 2008, and this year would be the next in the cycle. I rented for years and think renting has so many advantages (including more FREE TIME). I love my home, but still.......

    Patty- it is going up to the 90s this week! That is typical for here in June, it has been very cool through May and felt more like Feb-March with all the rain and cooler temps. It went back up to the 80s last week, and now heads into the 90s. Usually the month of June is our warmest here (90s into the 100s), but then it cools with the monsoonal rains that usually start in July. Between El Ninjo and that, I expect the rains to return again soon. It will likely be somewhere in the low 80s tomorrow night for yoga. The person's yard we are going to for outdoor yoga is beautifully shaded down in the valley. Can't wait!

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Posts: 15,889

    MYRA--hello, you popped in a while back then were gone again. From the first time you were posting here you were in early treatment----how did it go? Come more often :)

    Paws things sound like they are improving. great :) I do zeroscaping--not xeriscaping--zero as in nada. The ground cover is all weeds. But they are nice weeds. They're green when it rains. They die when it's dry and it comes back green with the slightest rain or consistent dew. I do have slug-a -bug now --they fertilize my weeds and try to kill what they don't like. I must talk to them about that. In Florida the most common ground covers are Augustine--very lush, but water hungry. Bahia is very hardy, less water hungry, drought resistant. But's it's not lush like Augustine. I really have S-A-B b/c of pest control, the fertilizing is in the package.

    Google University of Florida and grass. They develop all kinds of things. Particular interest of recent times is hardy grass. I haven't looked in afew years to see what they've done.

    What I like about my weeds is they are very healthy & GREEN without supllemental water, ergo,

  • wren44
    wren44 Posts: 8,074

    Yoga at moonrise sounds wonderful. Yoga at sunrise was a little early for me.

    Belated happy birthday! Sounds like you had a nice weekend.

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Posts: 4,243

    Ms. Chevy and Patty, I am ok. No physical or emotional crisis. Just get frustrated when the neurons in my brain don't communicate with each other so I can communicate coherently. It happens every so often. By the way, I am not under the influence. Don't like to take anything unless I have to. I like to take care of ailments the old fashion way too Ms. Chevy and I am a licensed drug dealer to answer your question Rose. I have been working part-time since DD was 2 so I can be more involved with raising my kids. My pension is sad looking, but it's ok. I often tease my girls that they better take care of me when I am not able to take care of myself for the sacrifice I made haha. It's hard being a working mom and can't imagine being a single mom U4. Hugs to you if you are lurking.

    Rose, I hope you are doing better today. You know what is interesting- eating pomegranate along with the seeds helps me with diarrhea. Not sure how it will work with redundant colon though. You should not try it if you have diverticulosis. When you are constipated you eat the flesh of the pomegranate without the seeds and that will take care of the problem. Amazing fruit. Ms. Chevy promotes Aloe Vera and I am promoting pomegranate for digestive health. Together, we will fix all your digestive problems.

    Ms. Chevy, I saw a nice looking iron skillet at Home Goods a few months ago and was contemplating getting it ,but changed my mind because I was not sure if I could take care of it. I threw away all my Teflon pots and pans a few weeks after dx. Stainless steel pan doesn't work as well for frying. Now that I learn you can use it on DH when he is moody I regret not getting it!! Oh wait...hmmmm... he can use it on me too when I am moody! Never mind.

    Patty, so happy to hear you have more energy today. Spoil that baby of yours with love.

    Jazzy, I miss Yoga and Pilate. Had a six pack (well almost) when I did Pilate and kick boxing. That was 15 years ago. I should find time to go back to Yoga or Pilate when I get clearance from surgeon. Bless your heart for having a servant's heart. Your friend is lucky to have you. It is rewarding to give.

  • jazzygirl
    jazzygirl Posts: 12,047

    Loveroflife- I had open abdominal surgery 6 weeks before my BC surgery and my "core" was forever changed. A lot of personal training since last year and I am finally able to do more poses. I do a bit of yoga on my patio every day in the summer months. I hope you can get back to the yoga when you are more recovered. I had to ease into it after the surgeries (at least six months), and a good teacher will help you with that. Lots of easy poses to do that won't be has hard on the pec area and other things that have received some trauma. It is a slow process out of this crap.

    And wow, that you had almost six pack abs, even at my fittest, I have never had a flat stomach.

  • MarlanaB
    MarlanaB Posts: 193

    Chevy--my gran always made cornbread in her skillet. But she also packed up her 8 kids and moved them from Arkansas to California in late 1943 to work as a welder at Douglas Aircraft, leaving my drunken grandfather behind. She was widowed in 1957 but never lived with him again and she made it to 102 so maybe she forgot what the skillet was for?

    Hin1--happy birthday!

    Jazzygirl--got a laugh out of "full moon yoga"! Don't get me wrong; yoga keeps me sane sometimes... "full moon" bwahaha. I keep picturing nude yoga and someone doing a downward dog right in front of me. If that's the case, may the "moon" in front of you belong to a handsome, well shaped fella.

    I bought a house in 2001 and I've been there since. I was lucky and got in before the huge rise and fall. And I'm fortunate that I work in a field that is perpetually understaffed so there's always overtime. It's easier for me to work 3 hours of ot to pay for a maid to come in and do the heavy cleaning than it is to spend 8 hours cleaning toilets and the rest. And I like gardening so I have a gardener tomow my lawn but do most everything else myself.

    I'm ok for electrolytes. Just got back from MO's and had some blood work done to check. Yesterday was probably just my day to hit the wall after chemo. The way my bones felt, it was more like the wall hit me!

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Posts: 15,889

    Marly, how'd the visit go? Did you go for a check at the CC?

    Loverly, I left out a piece of info on the colon problem that makes the whole scenario really suck. Each ologist was told My two goals were to see if they're was any treatable medical condition AND if Celebrex was a good drug for me b/c of the life long muscle /bone / joint pain. It wasn't an afterthought or lightly considered. It was a specific goal stated up front. Not overlooked. Celebrex was very new at the time. Considered a breakthrough. Plus they're was research to support it being used as a chemo-preventative for 5 different cancers. Hence my interest. Family hx including most of those cancers and M/B/J pain. I was seriously pre-suing a two for one treatment.................. FDA has lost it's way. Too much influence by big Pharma. Never thought I'd say it, but multiple times in the last few years in tracking things that are very divergent, I have been dismayed that the FDA didn't follow it's own rules and mission.

    Whew, I thought Chevy would really do something with the vibrating---funny, but could have been more.

    Blondie, thanks, thinking of you too. Hope we can make the visit work at Tampa. Even if it's short :) but Spookie and I will understand if it can't be worked out :)

    Mel--LOVE TED Talks.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Posts: 15,889


    Wren, Tylenol is not a safe drug, nor are the rest of the NSAIDS. All have long term negative cardiovascular effects and Heptorenal  (liver/kidney).

    I was suspicious of Tylenol in 2006. Googled Hypertension and Tylenol. Major study published in Hypertension Journal August 2005. Meta-analysis of the Women's Health Study(Nurse's long term study). Connection between permanent hypertension and use of Tylenol and NSAIDS was made. Many supporting studies since. After the Original study done on women a meta-analysis was conducted on the Farmingham study(men). It was published in the same journal in 2007. The same connection was made in men.

    I went to pull both studies. There are now so many studies, it's terrible that there hasn't been a public health warning.

    Did you save that research I did for you on NSAIDS? I didn't archive it.

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Posts: 4,243

    Got the big picture Ms. Sass. Sad