Kicking LEs butt!! Exercise & Self Care Log

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  • carol57
    carol57 Member Posts: 1,550
    edited July 2014

    Yeesh, ladies, there are so many obstacles to staying in motion--bum knees, bum feet, bum toes!

    Work kept me pretty immobile yesterday, 'til evening when I decided to attack an area near the house that's become overgrown with wild blackberries.  Sawtooth, prickly monsters!  Our home is fully in the woods and this stuff is in quite a few places, including this one where I'd like to grow some things of my choice, not Mother Nature's choice.  So my exercise yesterday was lots of bending, yanking, hacking.  Dressed in full neck-to-toe anti-bug armor (bug-repellent clothing), and two pairs of garden gloves to protect from the prickly stems.  I must have been a sight, but I wanted to be protected from ticks and mosquitoes as well as from the thorns.  Today I'll go to the gym for a more traditional form of exercise!

    On the oil question, I use avocado oil a lot, and it has a very high smoking point. Also some nut oils, although there can be a pronounced taste, so it has to be in something where a slight nutty taste is good.  I use both of these to make vinaigrette from time to time, in place of olive oil.  We have several places not far from home that let you taste oils and vinegars, and the variety is astonishing.  It's easy to get carried away!

  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 4,671
    edited July 2014

    I am a huge kale fan, eat it a lot as it keeps in the fridge and I use in place of lettuce in sandwiches.  Also love it sautéed with lots of garlic and OO and now recently playing with the coconut oil...fun

  • carol57
    carol57 Member Posts: 1,550
    edited July 2014

    Kale often goes on our pizzas, and we just love it that way!

    I did a challenging strength training workout in the gym today, with some nudging by the trainer.  Tired but happy!

  • hugz4u
    hugz4u Member Posts: 1,818
    edited July 2014

    Half hour walk with doggy in the hot sun. Anyone tried PGX supplements to curb appetite. I have before and it works. Thinking about doing it again. Somethings got to give and I can't keep eating like this!

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,833
    edited August 2014


    haven't heard of PGX supplements.  Are you eating enough protein? I tend to stick to a Paleo/Primal type of diet and cut the sugar and that really helps me a lot.  (except for that damn salt cravings)

  • SailingWind
    SailingWind Member Posts: 59
    edited August 2014

    Help  can't find  bra.looking for 38 DDD soft Cotten bra. All the sports bara seem to be sm med etc..

  • SailingWind
    SailingWind Member Posts: 59
    edited August 2014

    Help  can't find  bra. Looking for 38 DDD soft Cotten bra. All the sports bar seem to be sm med etc..

  • SailingWind
    SailingWind Member Posts: 59
    edited August 2014

    Help  can't find  bra. Looking for 38 DDD soft Cotten bra. All the sports bar seem to be sm med etc..

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 814
    edited August 2014

    Lots of tips on the Kale. Looking forward to seeing how it does. Im also really interested in using the cocnut oil. Im SOOOO disappointed with myself regarding OO. I just don't know why but I'm not fond of the taste. I really want to like it but ummmm Sad. Im hoping it is an "aquired" taste and that I just need to persevere a bit. 

    My word Carol, Sawtooth, prickly monsters! Shocked  gosh that sounds a challenge and a half! You sure are a goer.

  • carol57
    carol57 Member Posts: 1,550
    edited August 2014

    16,700 steps today, all outdoors doing some property maintenance work.  I moved 500 bricks from a pathway into a tidy pile (yes, compression sleeve and gauntlet, plus double garden gloves!). DH is going to relocate the pathway and I volunteered to remove the old one and do the stacking. They were in sand, so not hard to remove, but gee this was repetitive, and I took them only about 20 feet, so it was a lot of short back-and forth, two bricks at a time.  Then I removed about 40 slender dogwoods from a wooded area in our yard that is loaded with native dogwoods that we regrettably ignored for the last few years.  It was overgrown, and the trees leggy, and we needed to thin it out --so that was my afternoon project.  DH did the hauling away of my considerable pile of tree debris.  It was a glorious day, and the temperature was perfect, so I enjoyed the whole process.  Until when I came in to undress and stuff my clothes in the washer and hit the shower--two spiders dropped to the floor with my clothing.  Ick! But no bites that I can tell.  From fear of ticks, I was covered all but my face and clothes were well sprayed with bug repellent and I had sunscreen on my face, so by rights I should not have had any bites!

    I'm pooped, ladies, but happy to have accomplished something and enjoyed doing so outdoors.  And very glad that I've been doing PAL-compliant weight lifting for almost three years, or I would never have dreamed of doing all that repetitive brick-moving.

    That's my LE-kick-butt news of the day!

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,833
    edited August 2014

    wow, Carol, that was a lot of work!   Get some rest tomorrow!  

  • Vikingqueen
    Vikingqueen Member Posts: 6
    edited August 2014


    Cording is poping out  need sugestions . Lots of stinging and tight. Doing yogs stretches and drybrushing what else?? Very distressed this will led to lymphedema .Help

  • ramols
    ramols Member Posts: 310
    edited August 2014

    Hi Vikingqueen - sorry to hear about the cording. I do tend to think cording can be a precursor to LE, but it can certainly also stand alone. I have had it on and off and it is a pain - literally! If you can see a professional (PT/LE) to help you work it out, that's great. But if not - you can massage it gently on your own, trying to break it up bit by bit. But be careful to massage in the right direction - same as your manual lymph drainage exercises. Massaging in the wrong direction might get you into a heap of LE trouble. Doing it in the shower is even better - I think something about the heat and the water helps. And stretches to try to pop them are a good idea too. Stand near a table and place your hand palm down on the table - with your fingers facing you and your palm out away from you (it is kind of awkward) and straighten your arm out to stretch. You can use a doorway too - place your palm on the doorframe (with fingers facing behind you) - and straighten out your arm (so your hand and arm make a 90 degree angle - for both stretches). With both of these - if your cords are big and tight - it'll hurt so take it slow. But it will stretch them out bit by bit. If they get really bad and are limiting your range of motion - go see a professional. Good luck and feel better!

  • hugz4u
    hugz4u Member Posts: 1,818
    edited August 2014

    2 hours of gardening, resting arm now..no more arm stuff today.

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,833
    edited August 2014


    still walking every day.  Just about a mile,,, 20 mins,,,

  • hugz4u
    hugz4u Member Posts: 1,818
    edited August 2014

    Glennie that's wonderful. I am soooooo proud of your achievements.  I have gotten a bit lazy walking due to heat and I need to whip myself.  Here goes. WHIP, WHIP. Ouch ouch!...OK. I will walk.

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 814
    edited August 2014

    Carol how far in your estimate is 16,700 steps?...sounds a loooong way.

    Well I'm on a roll it seems. I broke my record late last week on treddy 3 days in a row. My lowest time was 19mins30secs (Oops, edited to say thats 29 mins.30 secs)  give or take a few. That's 3.3K/2 mile. My arm has been a bit of a pain, aching for no good reason. It's not all the time though.

    glennie, good on you, you're doing well. Every bit helps.

  • carol57
    carol57 Member Posts: 1,550
    edited August 2014

    Musical, my pedometer also measures in miles, based on my stride measurement.  It's certainly not totally accurate, because unless I'm out for a power walk, there's no way that my steps are always the same length as when I took the average a year or so ago.  In any case, supposedly I walked 7.4 miles doing my garden work, or 11.91 km in your neck of the woods.  I think it's somewhat plausible, because I was in constant motion for 11 or so hours, including the back-and-forth brick relocation project.  (Today I have professional work, so no big step count, that's for sure!)

    And you, my friend, are on a tear! Two miles in under twenty minutes is superb! You are sure giving that new treadmill of yours a workout!

  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Member Posts: 814
    edited August 2014

    Oh SORRY!!! that 29 mins. I'll go correct that error. I don't envisage me EVER doing it under 20 mins.  Well you sure are doing well keeping things up for that amount of time. Well done! Yes I was thinking that about the pedometer. They don't measure the length of your steps as such. That can vary with some people greatly.

  • carol57
    carol57 Member Posts: 1,550
    edited August 2014

    OK, but Musical, at 29 minutes I'm still impressed!  That's a very, very good pace!

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,833
    edited August 2014


    Don't whip,, it will hurt your LE!!

    I'm trying to keep going. I'm a little discouraged cuz I have to get hysterectomy Sept 29. So part of me is like;  why keep exercising?  You'll be laid up for a few weeks and have to start over anyway. But then the other part of my brain says;  yes, but if you keep exercising, you won't be as bad off for the restart.  Soooooo, I'm trying to stay motivated,,,,,

  • carol57
    carol57 Member Posts: 1,550
    edited August 2014

    glennie, if you keep exercising, your heart will be stronger for the surgery, and your muscles will go into recovery with a boost of stamina.  Not to mention that exercise is a proven way to lower your stress, so it will help you keep the worries down to a dull roar!  I can sure appreciate the feeling of being resigned to losing your exercise progress, though.  But the exercise habit you're developing  now and reinforcing until your surgery will help you get up and get moving again when you've been cleared to do so.  You'll find it easier to re-start mentally, and as you said, you'll be in better shape to re-start physically.  Two steps forward and one backward is sure better than a full stop, don't you think?  Go for it...you're doing great, so keep up the momentum.  I think you'll be glad that you did.

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,833
    edited August 2014


    thanks for the words of encouragement, Carol!  I really appreciate it.

  • Jeannie57
    Jeannie57 Member Posts: 1,314
    edited August 2014

    I did a water aerobics class today for an hour. My tail bone injury is healing, thank goodness. 

  • Laural
    Laural Member Posts: 212
    edited August 2014

    Back from Bay Cliff Health Camp...8 weeks of intense work with children with disabilities. I managed to use my pump every morning and wore compression sleeve daily and LE stayed manageable in spite of many mosquitoes feasting and black flies. Loved the temps in the 60's all summer and the kids made it all worthwhile. Fighting off a good case of bronchitis now, and enjoying the memories made and lives shared. Glad to see you have all made it through the summer.

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,833
    edited August 2014

    i just want to tell y'all, THANK YOU.  I have learned so much from this forum.  I feel like I'm educating my LE therapists as they have not heard of Lebed, or dry brushing, or StepupSpeakOUT. org    My breast binder that i got from EaB Medical,,,, was like,, wow,, where did you get that???  Lordy,,,,

    I KNOW that i would not be managing my LE so well w/o your support and knowledge.  So thank you very very much. 

  • carol57
    carol57 Member Posts: 1,550
    edited August 2014

    glennie, I came here when I first began wondering about LE symptoms, and what I learned here was the information and support I needed to push back on a reluctant surgeon, get an evaluation, and then to be a critical consumer of LE treatment.  We sure do need each other--LE is in incredibly do-it-yourself medical condition, isn't it?  I'm so glad you're managing your LE and joined our community of patient advocates--because every time someone helps someone else, it's advocacy in the purest sense.

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,833
    edited August 2014


    It really is a do-it-yourself condition. *sigh*

    I want someone to help me find a really good truncal garment,, that does not squash my remaining breast or put too much pressure on my bad opposite shouder.  Is that too much to ask???  Apparently,, since I keep buying and returning stuff I find on the internet.

  • milehighgirl
    milehighgirl Member Posts: 397
    edited August 2014

    Glennie, my PT suggested Spanx.  I haven't tried them because she said while they work well, they're a "B" to get on.  I don't think I couild stand having something on that was that tight.  But worth a look.  Sue

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,833
    edited August 2014


    I tried them,, and I tried Underarmour,,, and I can't get a good fit.  Either too loose so not doing any good,, or too tight and squashing my poor remaining boob!!